Current top ten?

[spurraider21]

pretty remarkable that KD shot 56% for the entire playoffs

[spursistan]

pretty remarkable that KD shot 56% for the entire playoffs
He is getting practice shots and open lanes from the unprecedented attention defenses give to Curry :lol..

[spurraider21]

1. LeBron
2. Kawhi
3. Curry
4. Durant
5. Giannis (projection)
6. Davis
7. Harden
8. Paul
9. Embiid (i'm sold)
10. Westbrook
:lol me

[Pelicans78]

:lol me

He's been really good this year. Consistenty very good every night.

[DAF86]

Supposing injuries haven't shit on players:

1-Lebron
2-Curry
3-Durant
4-Kawhi
5-Harden
6-Davis
7-Westbrook
8-Giannis
9-Paul
10-Cousins/Butler

[AlexJones]

Chris Paul is the 2nd best PG in the game

[DAF86]

1-Lebron
2-Curry
3-Durant
4-Kawhi
5-Harden
6-Davis
7-Giannis
8-Embiid
9-Westbrook
10-Lillard/Jokic/Blake

[JakeCuenca]

1-Lebron
2-Curry
3-Durant
4-Kawhi
5-Harden
6-Davis
7-Giannis
8-Embiid
9-Westbrook
10-Lillard/Jokic/Blake

Curry, Durant, Kawhi, Davis are all better than harden now

[JakeCuenca]

Curry, Durant, Kawhi, Davis are all better than harden now

Lebron i meant

[DAF86]

Lebron i meant

Could be. I still need a bigger sample size to definitely declare that. Untill then, Lebron gets the benefit of the doubt from me.

[DAF86]

I was very tempted to put DeRozan at 10 but didn't want to be a homer. He's definitely playing as a top 10 player so far though.

[HarlemHeat37]

1. Davis
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Curry
5. Harden
6. LeBron
7. Giannis
8. Embiid
9. Jokic
10. Westbrook

[JakeCuenca]

1. Davis
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Curry
5. Harden
6. LeBron
7. Giannis
8. Embiid
9. Jokic
10. Westbrook

Love Kawhi, but my god is hard to put him in any list with his uncle making him a total bitch. He's practiclly playing games and the main goal is to not get injured.

[TDfan2007]

1. Davis
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Curry
5. Harden
6. LeBron
7. Giannis
8. Embiid
9. Jokic
10. Westbrook

Solid list. I feel like people just robotically/reflexively call LeBron the best player in the league at this point, but Davis looks like that guy now. The guy is an absolute freak with near-GOAT talent, and he started to realize that last year.

Durant is making a case for being the 3rd-best scorer of all time after Mike and Kareem. As for Kawhi, I can't stand him, but he's balling after clearly holding out on us last year. His playmaking has improved too.

[TD 21]

:lmao At James at 6 because he went to a franchise and situation you despise. Coming off an all-time postseason, until he's no longer capable of ramping it up to that level, he's clearly 1 . . .

Tier 1: James
Tier 2: Curry, Durant, Harden, Davis, Leonard
Tier 3: Jokic, Paul, Antetokounmpo, Westbrook, Embiid

If Paul can't revert to previous form, he finally falls out of the top 10. But as a long time member, he's earned the benefit of the doubt until further notice.

[TDfan2007]

1. Davis
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Curry
5. Harden
6. LeBron
7. Giannis
8. Embiid
9. Jokic
10. Westbrook

Solid list. I feel like people just robotically/reflexively call LeBron the best player in the league at this point, but Davis looks like that guy now. The guy is an absolute freak with near-GOAT talent, and he started to realize that last year.

Durant is making a case for being the 3rd-best scorer of all time after Mike and Kareem. As for Kawhi, I can't stand him, but he's balling after clearly holding out on us last year. His playmaking has improved too.

[lebomb]

1. Lonzo Ball
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2. Lebron
3. Curry

in that order.

[HarlemHeat37]

Solid list. I feel like people just robotically/reflexively call LeBron the best player in the league at this point, but Davis looks like that guy now. The guy is an absolute freak with near-GOAT talent, and he started to realize that last year.

Durant is making a case for being the 3rd-best scorer of all time after Mike and Kareem. As for Kawhi, I can't stand him, but he's balling after clearly holding out on us last year. His playmaking has improved too.

My list was a combination of now + what I expect by the end of the season..Davis has actually been pretty bad lately and I wouldn't be surprised if he wants a trade soon, but I think he has the highest peak of any player in the league right now..

LeBron is just so bad on defense and the overall drop-off has to be imminent with all that mileage and a bad supporting cast..

[TDfan2007]

My list was a combination of now + what I expect by the end of the season..Davis has actually been pretty bad lately and I wouldn't be surprised if he wants a trade soon, but I think he has the highest peak of any player in the league right now..

LeBron is just so bad on defense and the overall drop-off has to be imminent with all that mileage and a bad supporting cast..

That's what I figured when looking at your post, but yeah I can already see some of the drop-off for LeBron. He's not beating guys off the drive nearly as much as he used to and he's not even pretending to try on D anymore. Davis has been meh to start though... didn't see that coming

[Arcadian]

Curry is the most dominant player in the NBA currently. It's his era. He defined the current style of play, and he's the prototypical player for that style.

Kawhi could have been #1, but he bitched out, so that's all over now.

[spursistan]

Update February' 2019..

1- Lebron: Until proven otherwise-- possibly this year's playoffs-- the crown is still his..

2- KD : still think he is tad more important/valuable for playoffs basketball than Steph who gets the edge here over 82-game season.

3- Curry: see above for explanation.

4- Giannis: Still can't shoot. So his "unguardability" still questionable in the playoffs, but he's proving how good and uplifting (to his team) he is with elite coaching..

5- Harden: Meh not falling again for gaudy numbers in the regular season on a D'Antoni-coached team. Still an offensive juggernaut..

6- Kawhi : His drastic defensive slippage is truly worrisome. Health-wise, he is the least reliable superstar in league; yes more fargile than AD (he will likely never play more than 75 games in season ONCE in his career :lol). Combined with his failure to improve his play-making (you could argue it got worse) this slide is warranted. Looking at his paltry advanced stats, current Kawhi is basically a more efficient version of Nuggets Melo.

7- Davis: His inability to win enough basketball games is starting to look awkward..probably the wrong era of basketball for him, but still..

8- Paul George: Biggest leap this season..A more consistent two-way monster that leaves you wonderig what could have been for PG without that gruesome leg injury.

9- Embiid: Best big man in the league

10- Jokic: Only defense or lack there of will limit his ceiling.

[FrostKing]

1. 96 Bulls
2. 86 Celtics
3. discuss

[spursistan]

Update February' 2019..

1- Lebron: Until proven otherwise-- possibly this year's playoffs-- the crown is still his..

2- KD : still think he is tad more important/valuable for playoffs basketball than Steph who gets the edge here over 82-game season.

3- Curry: see above for explanation.

4- Giannis: Still can't shoot. So his "unguardability" still questionable in the playoffs, but he's proving how good and uplifting (to his team) he is with elite coaching..

5- Harden: Meh not falling again for gaudy numbers in the regular season on a D'Antoni-coached team. Still an offensive juggernaut..

6- Kawhi : His drastic defensive slippage is truly worrisome. Health-wise, he is the least reliable superstar in league; yes more fargile than AD (he will likely never play more than 75 games in season ONCE in his career :lol). Combined with his failure to improve his play-making (you could argue it got worse) this slide is warranted. Looking at his paltry advanced stats, current Kawhi is basically a more efficient version of Nuggets Melo.

7- Davis: His inability to win enough basketball games is starting to look awkward..probably the wrong era of basketball for him, but still..

8- Paul George: Biggest leap this season..A more consistent two-way monster that leaves you wonderig what could have been for PG without that gruesome leg injury.

9- Embiid: Best big man in the league

10- Jokic: Only defense or lack there of will limit his ceiling.


Just put up a 47/12/10 triple double and his last 12 games are bonkers. :wow

If not for that pathetic series against Jazz still fresh in memory, I would put him over Kawhi, tbh..He's been a superior two-way player this year, even my some margin considering his load.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzLNhejXgAEwp-8.jpg

[Joseph Kony]

Strictly based on this season so far:

1. Giannis
2. Harden
3. Durant
4. LeBron
5. George
6. Curry
7. Jokic
8. Leonard
9. Davis
10. Embiid



LeBron will likely turn it up in the playoffs so this is just as in the 2019 RS so far. Several players have been notably better than him thus fur imo

[endrity]

Update February' 2019..

1- Lebron: Until proven otherwise-- possibly this year's playoffs-- the crown is still his..

2- KD : still think he is tad more important/valuable for playoffs basketball than Steph who gets the edge here over 82-game season.

3- Curry: see above for explanation.

4- Giannis: Still can't shoot. So his "unguardability" still questionable in the playoffs, but he's proving how good and uplifting (to his team) he is with elite coaching..

5- Harden: Meh not falling again for gaudy numbers in the regular season on a D'Antoni-coached team. Still an offensive juggernaut..

6- Kawhi : His drastic defensive slippage is truly worrisome. Health-wise, he is the least reliable superstar in league; yes more fargile than AD (he will likely never play more than 75 games in season ONCE in his career :lol). Combined with his failure to improve his play-making (you could argue it got worse) this slide is warranted. Looking at his paltry advanced stats, current Kawhi is basically a more efficient version of Nuggets Melo.

7- Davis: His inability to win enough basketball games is starting to look awkward..probably the wrong era of basketball for him, but still..

8- Paul George: Biggest leap this season..A more consistent two-way monster that leaves you wonderig what could have been for PG without that gruesome leg injury.

9- Embiid: Best big man in the league

10- Jokic: Only defense or lack there of will limit his ceiling.

1. LeBron - it's the last year for sure, but until the playoffs come along the crown is still his his.
2a. KD
2b. Steph - I agree with the conclusion regarding these two as well. Curry is what makes the GS team go, but KD still seems to have a more unique talent. I do go back and forth though.
4. Embiid - He, not AD, is the best big man in the league and is about as complete as anyone to have played the role. He needs to carry the Sixers into the finals now, but the talent is all there.
5. Giannis - Unless he can show that this style of bball can win in the playoffs, I am still skeptical. If the keeps dunking on everyone in the playoffs, he might just be number one. I'd still vote him for MVP though.
6. Harden - Sometimes I feel the Rockets are the the ones overusing him, sometimes I feel like he is the problem with dominating the ball so much. He's a monster of a scorer, but he needs to win a big series very soon to validate his career. If he knocks even OKC this year, he'll get major props.
7. Paul George - Incredible year, he's bypassed Kawhi for sure.
8. AD - He's 25 and has won only one playoff series. He's a great talent but he needs to make a great decision in the summer or else that's all people will remember him for.

Kyrie, Westbrook, Kawhi - not sure how to rank them right now, they have had up and down seasons the last couple of years. Bar Westbrook, they have injury concerns as well. They wanted to be the MAN in their teams, now they need to show they deserve that and I am not sure anyone is quite living up to it.

Jokic - I don't know, seems a bit like a product of the system, but we'll see more in the playoffs.

Doncic, KP - they are coming for them all next year.

[DAF86]

Just put up a 47/12/10 triple double and his last 12 games are bonkers. :wow

If not for that pathetic series against Jazz still fresh in memory, I would put him over Kawhi, tbh..He's been a superior two-way player this year, even my some margin considering his load.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzLNhejXgAEwp-8.jpg

Lamers missing out on this guy. :lol

[spurraider21]

giannis is shooting 58% from the filed :lol... i dont want to hear about how his jumpshot is such a massive liability tbh

[Will Hunting]

giannis is shooting 58% from the filed :lol... i dont want to hear about how his jumpshot is such a massive liability tbh
Yeah he simply doesn’t need to take jumpers. When he does it’s actually a pretty smooth looking shot, there’s just no point when his penetration is that hard to defend.

[Laker_1995]

Paul George is on another level. Nigga going crazy

[TD 21]

:lmao How can anyone put anyone above James until he proves he can no longer reach a level in the playoffs that none of these other players have ever proven they can hit? That's far more important than who can consistently play at a high level in the regular season . . .

Tier 1: James.

Tier 2: Curry, Durant, Harden, Antetokounmpo, Davis.

Tier 3: Jokic, George, Embiid, Leonard.

Tier 4: Irving, Griffin, Towns, Lillard, Gobert.

[TD 21]

Gobert, Lillard and Towns are better than Westbrook?

They have been this season and considering Westbrook is now 30, was always highly reliant on freakish athleticism and hasn't looked the same since his 4th knee surgery last off season, there's reason to think it could be permanent.

[HarlemHeat37]

1. Giannis
2. Durant
3. Curry/Harden
5. Davis
6. LeBron(benefit of the doubt)
7. Kawhi(benefit of the doubt)
8. George
9. Embiid
10. Jokic

I don't care about what LeBron has done in the playoffs, he's clearly coasting into retirement now..he can't will teams to win anymore with his scoring, doesn't play defense, etc..

We probably won't even see him perform in the playoffs this year:lol

[spursistan]

1. Giannis
2. Durant
3. Curry/Harden
5. Davis
6. LeBron(benefit of the doubt)
7. Kawhi(benefit of the doubt)
8. George
9. Embiid
10. Jokic

I don't care about what LeBron has done in the playoffs, he's clearly coasting into retirement now..he can't will teams to win anymore with his scoring, doesn't play defense, etc..

We probably won't even see him perform in the playoffs this year:lol

Well....

I know his conditioning/groin is not 100%, but these the last couple of weeks is the first time I saw Lebron try to carry a team on his back and fail spectacularly at it (it is not like he faced the Warriors every night, tbh).

It is legitimate to ask whether Lebron is still the best player in the world, at this point. Definitely, wouldn't be controversial to finally put Durant above him.

[HarlemHeat37]

^^Best in the league?:lmao

He isn't even close anymore..happens to everybody at some point, this is his time..

Giannis is by far the best player in the league, but he doesn't have the playoff resume to crown him yet..I guess it's Durant, but nobody wants to give him credit for anything and rightfully so:lol

[spursistan]

^^Best in the league?:lmao

He isn't even close anymore..happens to everybody at some point, this is his time..

Giannis is by far the best player in the league, but he doesn't have the playoff resume to crown him yet..I guess it's Durant, but nobody wants to give him credit for anything and rightfully so:lol


Pedigree/reputation factors in these type of rankings, tbh.. Sample size is still not big enough, but If Lebron still look like another empty stats guy in the first two months of next season (he's gonna get all the rest he needed), I will be fine with knocking him out of Top 5.

But, yeah it happens to everyone, Duncan lost half step at the end of 2008, but the first big sign of decline happened in 2010-11 at 34-35....

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan aged well after his initial decline because he accepted a complimentary role(only being an offensive focal point in matchup advantages)..one of his biggest strengths as a player was humility and self-awareness..

I can't see LeBron doing that..I don't think he'll be like Kobe embarrassing himself, but I can't picture him not dominating the ball..

[TD 21]

Well....


I know his conditioning/groin is not 100%, but these the last couple of weeks is the first time I saw Lebron try to carry a team on his back and fail spectacularly at it (it is not like he faced the Warriors every night, tbh).

It is legitimate to ask whether Lebron is still the best player in the world, at this point. Definitely, wouldn't be controversial to finally put Durant above him.






Pedigree/reputation factors in these type of rankings, tbh.. Sample size is still not big enough, but If Lebron still look like another empty stats guy in the first two months of next season (he's gonna get all the rest he needed), I will be fine with knocking him out of Top 5.

But, yeah it happens to everyone, Duncan lost half step at the end of 2008, but the first big sign of decline happened in 2010-11 at 34-35....

:tu He's still bitter that he signed with the Lakers, plus being an ageist is part of his shtick.

It's one thing to put Curry, Durant, Harden, Antetokounmpo, Davis in a tier with James, but to put them clearly ahead is prisoner of the moment talk.

This isn't the first time people were questioning him and all he did was end any debate from the '16 Finals through last season. There's never been a player who's maintained elite standing for so long, so if anyone has earned the benefit of the doubt, it's him.

[AlexJones]

Lebron will retire in 3 years

[spursistan]

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Seriously :lol..

At what point this becomes rather awkward,tbh. This dude is proving to be more of an empty stat type with loser mentality than the generational franchise player everyone thought he is.

[DAF86]

1-Curry
2-Durant
3-Kawhi
4-Giannis
5-Harden
6-Lebron
7-Davis
8-Embiid
9-George
10-Jokic

Hard to rank them right now, playoffs will probably clear who deserves to be where.

[R. DeMurre]

1114972640987549696




Vucevic is legit this year.

Check out this article: https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/25/surprisingly-magics-nikola-vucevic-has-owned-joel-embiid-this-season/

[resistanze]

1 - Giannis
2 - Curry
3 - KD
4 - Harden
5 - LeBron
6 - Embiid
7 - George
8 - Kawhi
9 - Lillard
10 - Jokic

[apalisoc_9]

Harden
Giannis
KD
Lebron
Curry
Kawhi

Things can change in the playoffs though.

[lefty]

1 - Giannis
2 - Curry
3 - KD
4 - Harden
5 - LeBron
6 - Embiid
7 - George
8 - Kawhi
9 - Lillard
10 - Jokic

Harden too high, this clown doesn’t play D

[resistanze]

Harden too high, this clown doesn’t play D

His scam so far has been very effective this season. We'll see if it carries over to POs.

[lefty]

His scam so far has been very effective this season. We'll see if it carries over to POs.
Imo he’s not going to get the same calls

Well I hope I’m wrong, especially if it’s again GS lol

[MultiTroll]

Greek Freak
LeBron
Nephew healthy enough to make it thru 35 MPG.
AD
Jokic
Curry (must be hot to save his sieve defense.)
Harden
Embiid
Boban
Mavs Euro rookie
Patty Mills

[Spurtacular]

1. 96 Bulls
2. 86 Celtics
3. discuss

Been discussed a lot on this site. Overwhelming for the C's. They'd win in 5 or 6 IMO.

[djohn2oo8]

His scam so far has been very effective this season. We'll see if it carries over to POs.
And we will see if Kawhi’s scam keeps him in Toronto. :)

[resistanze]

And we will see if Kawhi’s scam keeps him in Toronto. :)

:lol thinking I give a fuck about Kawhi and Raps or it changes what I say about Harden

[HarlemHeat37]

1. Giannis
2. Durant
3. Curry/Harden
5. Davis
6. LeBron(benefit of the doubt)
7. Kawhi(benefit of the doubt)
8. George
9. Embiid
10. Jokic

I don't care about what LeBron has done in the playoffs, he's clearly coasting into retirement now..he can't will teams to win anymore with his scoring, doesn't play defense, etc..

We probably won't even see him perform in the playoffs this year:lol

Now that we've seen some playoffs:

1. Giannis
2. Servant
3. Curry/Harden
5. Kawhi
6. Embiid
7. LeBron
8. Lillard
9. Jokic
10. Davis

[LkrFan]

Hey Russ, are you a top 10 playa from the Himalayas?

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:lol

[Benoit]

The only players that you can win a championship with, in this era, AS THE LEADER & UNDISPUTED NUMBER ONE GUY: Giannis, Lebron, Harden and Steph

Can only win as 1A/1B: KD, Kawhi, Davis, Lillard

Can only win as #2: Jokic, Embiid, George

[Beggar]

Why everyone mentioning Davis? He's already in his prime and we haven't seen absolutely no result. His top accomplishment in 7 years is get to the playoffs twice. Typical millenial with no drive, will or anything else. Loser

[Arcadian]

Why everyone mentioning Davis? He's already in his prime and we haven't seen absolutely no result. His top accomplishment in 7 years is get to the playoffs twice. Typical millenial with no drive, will or anything else. Loser

So you're not a millenial? That includes everyone born since the mid 1980s (up until the more recent Gen Z).

[spurraider21]

So you're not a millenial? That includes everyone born since the mid 1980s (up until the more recent Gen Z).
nah he's definitely a boomer. hence the beggar username.

[Jodelo]

Putting Davis in the top ten :lmao

[resistanze]

1 - Giannis
2 - Curry
3 - Kawhi
4 - KD
5 - LeBron
6 - Lillard
7 - Jokic
8 - Embiid
9 - Harden
10 - George

[DAF86]

1-Curry
2-Durant
3-Kawhi
4-Giannis
5-Harden
6-Lebron
7-Davis
8-Embiid
9-George
10-Jokic

Hard to rank them right now, playoffs will probably clear who deserves to be where.

Now that Lebron has officially declined, Curry is pretty clearly the best player in the World, tbh. I don't care if most of the top 10 guys beat him one on one. In 5 v 5 basketball, he's the most impactful player by far.

[FrostKing]

1. Kawhi
2. Giannis
3. Jovic
4. Durant
5. Lebron
6a. Harden
6b. Curry
8. .....

[Jonnyblue19]

Now that Lebron has officially declined, Curry is pretty clearly the best player in the World, tbh. I don't care if most of the top 10 guys beat him one on one. In 5 v 5 basketball, he's the most impactful player by far.

Durant is more impactful because when he wants he can play defense. He is basically Curry at 7 feet you can't guard him and his help defense is pretty good. You never see teams trying to switch to have Durant guard them like they do Steph.

[Millennial_Messiah]

1. Antetokounmpo
2. Leonard
3. Durant
4. Harden
5. Westbrook
6. James
7. Lillard
8. Embiid
9. Davis
10. Thompson

11. George (?)
12. Jokic
13. Aldridge


Klay Thompson goes several spots ahead of Curry for his defense, tbh. Curry is just a hell of a shooter. He's not the soundest point guard and he's just a gambler on defense. Klay Thompson is Ray Allen on offense and prime Danny Green/Bruce Bowen on defense.

Then you have Iverson-like guys like Kyrie Irving who barely qualify for the top 25 due to their inefficiency. DeRozan isn't top 25 IMO.

Hate Draymond Green if you want but he's definitely top 20, he's the rich-man's Shawn Marion/Dennis Rodman of this generation. He does everything except volume score, and he can score if necessary.

[R. DeMurre]

1. Antetokounmpo
2. Leonard
3. Durant
4. Harden
5. Westbrook
6. James
7. Lillard
8. Embiid
9. Davis
10. Thompson

11. George (?)
12. Jokic
13. Aldridge


Klay Thompson goes several spots ahead of Curry for his defense, tbh. Curry is just a hell of a shooter. He's not the soundest point guard and he's just a gambler on defense. Klay Thompson is Ray Allen on offense and prime Danny Green/Bruce Bowen on defense.

Then you have Iverson-like guys like Kyrie Irving who barely qualify for the top 25 due to their inefficiency. DeRozan isn't top 25 IMO.

Hate Draymond Green if you want but he's definitely top 20, he's the rich-man's Shawn Marion/Dennis Rodman of this generation. He does everything except volume score, and he can score if necessary.

Westbrook ahead of Curry?! Curry not in the top 13? You're a contrarian idiot.

[timvp]

1. Curry
2. Giannis
3. LeBron
4. Kawhi
5. Harden
6. AD
7. Jokic
8. Durant
9. Lillard
10. Towns

[TDfan2007]

1. Curry
2. Giannis
3. LeBron
4. Kawhi
5. Harden
6. AD
7. Jokic
8. Durant
9. Lillard
10. Towns

Towns over Embiid and Paul George? Idk about that...and Durant has surpassed LeBron at this point, imo

[Millennial_Messiah]

Westbrook ahead of Curry?! Curry not in the top 13? You're a contrarian idiot.

Curry has been overrated since day one. Remember Curry had plenty of chances to "carry" the Warriors with the Bogut/David Lee teams. They usually won 30-35 games a season. He's just a great shooter and really nothing else. There's nobody to really compare to him unfortunately, except for maybe Jerry West which sucks because there were no threes in West's time. Curry is a heck of a shooter and a great decoy, but I rank the players in terms of how greatly they help the team win.

The Warriors today would be worse off without Thompson than Curry. Thompson is arguably a better shooter than Curry (at least as good) AND is a top 3 perimeter defender. He would be Kawhi on offense too if he wasn't surrounded by Curry, Green, Durant etc and the triangle-esque pick and roll heavy offense.

[R. DeMurre]

Curry has been overrated since day one. Remember Curry had plenty of chances to "carry" the Warriors with the Bogut/David Lee teams. They usually won 30-35 games a season. He's just a great shooter and really nothing else. There's nobody to really compare to him unfortunately, except for maybe Jerry West which sucks because there were no threes in West's time. Curry is a heck of a shooter and a great decoy, but I rank the players in terms of how greatly they help the team win.

The Warriors today would be worse off without Thompson than Curry. Thompson is arguably a better shooter than Curry (at least as good) AND is a top 3 perimeter defender. He would be Kawhi on offense too if he wasn't surrounded by Curry, Green, Durant etc and the triangle-esque pick and roll heavy offense.

Your backward logic on basketball is only surpassed by your backward logic on race and race mixing.

[BD24]

1. Antetokounmpo
2. Leonard
3. Durant
4. Harden
5. Westbrook
6. James
7. Lillard
8. Embiid
9. Davis
10. Thompson

11. George (?)
12. Jokic
13. Aldridge


Klay Thompson goes several spots ahead of Curry for his defense, tbh. Curry is just a hell of a shooter. He's not the soundest point guard and he's just a gambler on defense. Klay Thompson is Ray Allen on offense and prime Danny Green/Bruce Bowen on defense.

Then you have Iverson-like guys like Kyrie Irving who barely qualify for the top 25 due to their inefficiency. DeRozan isn't top 25 IMO.

Hate Draymond Green if you want but he's definitely top 20, he's the rich-man's Shawn Marion/Dennis Rodman of this generation. He does everything except volume score, and he can score if necessary.
Andy going full retard, not surprising though tbh

[apalisoc_9]

Kawhi
Durant
Curry
Giannis
Harden

Hard to Gauge Lebron since the lakers were abysmal and the FO was a disaaster.

He could still be a top 4 player

[DAF86]

Durant is more impactful because when he wants he can play defense. He is basically Curry at 7 feet you can't guard him and his help defense is pretty good. You never see teams trying to switch to have Durant guard them like they do Steph.

None of that matters when a simple screen for Curry has three opposing players running to him while his teammates can play 4 on 2.

[spurraider21]

None of that matters when a simple screen for Curry has three opposing players running to him while his teammates can play 4 on 2.
unless you're portland and sag off his screens giving him wide open 3's all day :lol

[timvp]

Towns over Embiid and Paul George?
Yeah. When Karl Estrogen-Towns is on his tamoxifen, he's probably the most talented player in the league, tbh.


Idk about that...and Durant has surpassed LeBron at this point, imo

IMO, you put LeBron on the Warriors and they easily go 16-0 in the playoffs.

[FrostKing]

1. Curry
2. Giannis
3. LeBron
4. Kawhi
5. Harden
6. AD
7. Jokic
8. Durant
9. Lillard
10. Towns
Did you ever rank Nash as #1?

Granted the League as declined within that time span but neither play defense atleast Nash was an elite passer

[Rosewood]

1) Giannis
2) Kawhi
3) Durant
4) Lebron
5) Curry
6) Harden
7) Embiid
8) Paul George
9) Jokic
10) Dame

Just imo.

[spurraider21]

Did you ever rank Nash as #1?

Granted the League as declined within that time span but neither play defense atleast Nash was an elite passer
curry is an average to slightly above average defender. nash was like forbes on defense

[FrostKing]

curry is an average to slightly above average defender. nash was like forbes on defense
He's the reach around queen

[spurraider21]

He's the reach around queen
i'm sure you'd know all about reach around queens

[FkLA]

1. Curry
2. Giannis
3. LeBron
4. Kawhi
5. Harden
6. AD
7. Jokic
8. Durant
9. Lillard
10. Towns

:lol Towns

I wouldn't even put him in my Top 20, tbh.

[TD 21]

Tier 1: James, Durant, Antetokounmpo, Curry, Davis, Harden

Tier 2: Scumbag, Embiid, Jokic

Tier 3: George, Towns, Lillard, Irving

[apalisoc_9]

Tier 1: James, Durant, Antetokounmpo, Curry, Davis, Harden

Tier 2: Scumbag, Embiid, Jokic

Tier 3: George, Towns, Lillard, Irving

Stop the salt breh.

This is litterally the year media is finly giving leonard a case for best player in the world. You had him at 3 in his spurs peak too and hes clearly a better peformer now specially in the playoffs

[TD 21]

Stop the salt breh.

This is litterally the year media is finly giving leonard a case for best player in the world. You had him at 3 in his spurs peak too and hes clearly a better peformer now specially in the playoffs

:cry

:lmao The media just loves him because he screwed the Spurs and was traded to their latest darlings, the Raptors. Statistically, it's his 3rd best playoffs and things change. I've got him in the 2nd tier because of the combination of lack of durability, defensive decline and inability to make his teammates better (1B for most important aspect of the sport).

[apalisoc_9]

:cry

:lmao The media just loves him because he screwed the Spurs and was traded to their latest darlings, the Raptors. Statistically, it's his 3rd best playoffs and things change. I've got him in the 2nd tier because of the combination of lack of durability, defensive decline and inability to make his teammates better (1B for most important aspect of the sport).

Defensive decline? Hes coasting in the RS.

He just had the best defensive performance this year in the playoffs against attempafreethrow

[TD 21]

Defensive decline? Hes coasting in the RS.

He just had the best defensive performance this year in the playoffs against attempafreethrow

:lmao Yet the numbers continue to say he's declined.

Sure he did. You just don't like Antetokounmpo because you know he's better. Of course he's going to live at the line. That's what happens when you're physically unstoppable, in an era where they allow virtually no contact on the perimeter. At least he's not some stiff getting away with constant push offs, so that he can shoot uncontested mid rangers.

[ElNono]

1. Curry
2. Giannis
3. Durant
4. Kawhi
5. Harden
6. LeBron
7. Jokic
8. George
9. Westbrook
10. Doncic

Don't know why peeps keep falling for the AD smoke and mirrors, tbh...

[FkLA]

10. Donutcic

:lmao

[FkLA]

1. LeGOAT
2. Durbeta
3. Curry...he had plenty of series pre-KD when he wasn't dominant, I'd like to see him do this against a non-cupcake team before placing him over Durbeta
4. Nephew
5. Giannis
6. Harden
7. Jokic...was wrong about him, he can be a dominant scorer when his team needs it
8. Embiid
9. PG
10. Lillard

[Laker_1995]

Durant like 4-5. Unless he leads NY or Brooklyn to the finals he stays there. Curry is above him. KD just there for rings so he can feel like he actually earned it

[Rummpd]

1) Giannis
2) Kawhi
3) Durant
4) Lebron
5) Curry
6) Harden
7) Embiid
8) Paul George
9) Jokic
10) Dame

Just imo.

Pretty good list one could argue Durant over the Leonard, but that is all.

[timvp]

1. Curry
2. LeBron
3. Giannis
4. Kawhi
5. Harden
6. Jokic
7. AD
8. Green
9. Durant
10. Towns


Tmbh.

[FrostKing]

If Curry is in the Top 3, then NBA is in shambles

[DC23]

1. LBJ
2. Curry
3. KD
4. Leonard
5. AD
6. Harden
7. Giannis
8. Jokic
9. Westbrook
10. Embiid

[Arcadian]

Lebron is not top 5 anymore, tbh

[KimmyGib]

1. LeBron*
2. Durant
3. Curry
4. Giannis
5. Harden
6. Kawhi
7. AD
8. Paul George
9. Jokic
10. Draymond

[Laker_1995]

Niggas really put giannis over Lebron lmao. Lebron a playoff player .

[timvp]

Giannis bout to fall out my top ten, tbh.

[spurraider21]

Niggas really put giannis over Lebron lmao. Lebron a playoff player .
weird thing to say in a season where he missed the playoffs completely :lol

[DAF86]

So it seems like Giannis lack of shooting is indeed a liability when it matters, tbh.

[timvp]

1. Curry
2. Kawhi
3. Leonard
4. Harden
5. Jokic
6. AD
7. Green
8. Durant
9. Towns
10. Lillard

[DAF86]

1. Curry
2. Kawhi
3. Leonard
4. Harden
5. Jokic
6. AD
7. Green
8. Durant
9. Towns
10. Lillard

Meyers Leonard at 3?

[timvp]

Meyers Leonard at 3?

He's that good, tbh.

[RD2191]

Giannis bout to fall out my top ten, tbh.

:lol

[spursistan]

So it seems like Giannis lack of shooting is indeed a liability when it matters, tbh.

My biggest fears confirmed. He is so easy to neutralize in the playoffs when dem fastbreaks screech to a halt..

[HarlemHeat37]

So it seems like Giannis lack of shooting is indeed a liability when it matters, tbh.

Raptors are probably the only team that could do this to him, to be fair..his numbers against Kawhi are on a different level than anybody else that guarded him this year..


1. Curry
2. Kawhi
3. Durant
4. Giannis
5. Harden
6. LeBron
7. Jokic
8. Embiid
9. Draymond
10. George

[DAF86]

1-Curry
2-Durant
3-Kawhi
4-Giannis
5-Harden
6-Lebron
7-Davis
8-Embiid
9-George
10-Jokic

Hard to rank them right now, playoffs will probably clear who deserves to be where.

Update:

1-Curry
2-Durant
3-Kawhi
4-Harden
5-Lebron
6-Davis
7-Giannis
8-Jokic
9-George
10-Lillard

lol at the fucking idiots that have been saying Giannis is better than Kawhi for like 2/3 years now. :lol

[timvp]

Giannis is missing the competitiveness gene, tbh.

[Kawhitstorm]

https://i.imgflip.com/33ibeu.jpg

[Robz4000]

Can't believe how much this list has changed since this time last year (hell, last week even).

Nephew
Antetokounmpo
Curry
Davis
Lebron
Harden
George
Embiid
Lillard
Jokic