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MultiTroll
11-12-2015, 09:33 AM
Huge upsurge in the number of incidents, 4,000 a year and authorities figure far more go unreported.
http://www.cnn.com/videos/crime/2014/06/10/tsr-dnt-marsh-laser-pointer-threat.cnn-ap/video/playlists/lasers-and-planes/

Whether punk ass pranksters or serious criminal types, the result to the airline pilots is the same. Talking about shining laser lights into airline cockpits.

Here is a report from CNN. A bunch more lasers last night in both Dallas and NY/NJ.
Has the potential to make planes crash.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/12/us/pilots-laser-attacks/

CNN.com puts this out in two minute segments. Rene Marsh the host.

Here is one of the punks who lasered, a SpursTalk troll type Trevor Rango:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/trevor-ragno.jpg
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/19-year-old-idiot-trevor-ragno-arrested-for-shining-laser-at-florida-pilots-video/
19 Year-Old Idiot Trevor Ragno Arrested for Shining Laser at Florida Pilots (Video)

MultiTroll
11-12-2015, 09:46 AM
Here is a site that tracks arrests.
LaserPointerSafety.com
http://www.laserpointersafety.com/news/news/aviation-incidents_files/category-arrests.php

This Dallas Morning News article says those who plead guilty tend to get lesser sentences, at least in the Dallas area.
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/files/2015/11/Chapa-240x300.jpg
Orlando Jose Chapa

lefty
11-12-2015, 09:47 AM
Dumbasses :lol

MultiTroll
11-12-2015, 09:50 AM
The FBI is offering
http://cdn2.hellogiggles.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/25/likable-movie-villains-10.jpg?123
10 T-H-O-U-S-A-N-D dollars

To tips leading to the arrest and conviction.
:lol 40 gadzillion a day spent in the Middle East and billions daily blown here, yet the 10K offer.
Oh well it's a start.

MultiTroll
11-12-2015, 09:56 AM
Nice police work on the Phoenix man.
http://meredithaz.images.worldnow.com/images/8220218_G.jpg
Scott Hines 26

Police say they were notified by the airport around 11 p.m. Wednesday that someone was pointing a green laser at aircraft on approach.
Pilots flew a police helicopter to the area and acted as if they were making an airport approach and say the aircraft was immediately hit with the green laser.
The pilots guided patrol officers to an apartment complex where Hines allegedly was spotted with the laser and arrested.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2015, 10:29 AM
It's attempted mass murder or at least hundreds of counts of reckless endangerment. Fuck these losers.

MultiTroll
11-12-2015, 10:33 AM
While some of them, shoot maybe all of them need a hug certainly this guy does*.
This is why the option of counseling.
*Assuming his defense liarwyer is not making it all up.

UPDATED March 17 2015: Balaguer was charged on March 16 2015 in federal court with aiming a laser pointer at an aircraft. This has a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. FAA officials said they had to redirect traffic in and out of LaGuardia on March 9 to avoid going over the Bronx, where Balaguer and Egan lived. Balaguer’s attorney said the suspect “uses methadone every day and takes medication for bipolar disorder”, and that he was “harmless”: “It was stupidity, not venality.” From the Wall Street Journal. (http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2015/03/16/bronx-man-who-confessed-to-laser-pointer-incident-charged-in-federal-court/)
UPDATED May 5 2015: Balauger pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court to aiming a laser pointer at an aircraft. He could face up to five years in prison. The judge said sentencing guidelines call for between 2 and 2 1/2 years. He said sentencing of Balauger would not be routine “Given his psychiatric history, given his apparent lack of any wrongful intent, I can see one set of arguments being made; on the other hand I can see a different set of arguments because of the danger presented,” said the judge. Sentencing was scheduled for September 9 2015. According to the New York Post, Balauger is a disabled ex-heroin dealer who has a history of schizophrenia and left school after ninth grade.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2151484!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/laser17n-3-web.jpg

Elehecer Balaguer

SpursforSix
11-12-2015, 12:42 PM
so are the pilots assumed to be retards? are they like cats that see a little red dot and they forget how to fly the fucking plane?

ChumpDumper
11-12-2015, 12:47 PM
so are the pilots assumed to be retards? are they like cats that see a little red dot and they forget how to fly the fucking plane?Shine a laser directly in your eye and let us know how it goes.

SpursforSix
11-12-2015, 12:52 PM
Shine a laser directly in your eye and let us know how it goes.

I don't see how the person with the laser can get it directly in their eyes if they're on the ground with the laser.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2015, 12:53 PM
I don't see how the person with the laser can get it directly in their eyes if they're on the ground with the laser.I can see how you can't understand that.

SpursforSix
11-12-2015, 12:55 PM
I can see how you can't understand that.

even if the angle was right, it's unlikely that they would be able to aim the laser to get in the pilots eyes for any length of time.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2015, 12:58 PM
even if the angle was right, it's unlikely that they would be able to aim the laser to get in the pilots eyes for any length of time.How long would it take to damage your eye or impair your eyesight?

Shine a laser in your eye and let us know.

SpursforSix
11-12-2015, 01:01 PM
How long would it take to damage your eye or impair your eyesight?

Shine a laser in your eye and let us know.

I don't know how long it would take. I'm not saying it's not criminal.
Just saying that all this talk about bringing a plan down because of a laser.

SpursforSix
11-12-2015, 01:02 PM
maybe they could equip the planes with laser seeking missiles. that'd teach em.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2015, 01:04 PM
I don't know how long it would take. I'm not saying it's not criminal.
Just saying that all this talk about bringing a plan down because of a laser.What about it? It could happen.

SpursforSix
11-12-2015, 01:09 PM
What about it? It could happen.

IDK. unlikely. Even from 20 feet, it would be hard to hand hold a laser dot on a target as small as an eye.
And I'm assuming that the person with the laser can't see what the dot is actually hitting at any given point.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2015, 01:14 PM
IDK. unlikely. Even from 20 feet, it would be hard to hand hold a laser dot on a target as small as an eye.
And I'm assuming that the person with the laser can't see what the dot is actually hitting at any given point.Again, how long to you think it takes to impair vision with a laser?

Just shine one in your eyes for half a second and let us know what happens.

SpursforSix
11-12-2015, 01:23 PM
Again, how long to you think it takes to impair vision with a laser?

Just shine one in your eyes for half a second and let us know what happens.

Done. I almost wrecked. But that was more due to trying to respond to Avante.

Quetzal-X
11-12-2015, 09:12 PM
Real good ass kicking then community service.

CavsSuperFan
11-13-2015, 10:14 AM
These News Ghetto Birds hover over neighborhoods for hours…Often at night while residents are trying to sleep… They interrupt police trying to do their job…It is a real problem in Los Angeles…

Blake
11-13-2015, 10:50 AM
so are the pilots assumed to be retards? are they like cats that see a little red dot and they forget how to fly the fucking plane?

http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/122456080.png

pilot is a retard if this annoys him

SpursforSix
11-13-2015, 01:57 PM
http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/122456080.png

pilot is a retard if this annoys him

:lol that's a giant laser.

apalisoc_9
11-13-2015, 02:20 PM
White people smdh

~O~
11-13-2015, 02:21 PM
I thought these were just small toy lazers. That's some serious shit if those are the type of lazers used. That's wreckless.

Who..the fuck...has the time to do this....and why...THE FUCK?

SpursforSix
11-13-2015, 02:27 PM
I thought these were just small toy lazers. That's some serious shit if those are the type of lazers used. That's wreckless.

Who..the fuck...has the time to do this....and why...THE FUCK?

It's just another case of the media lumping everything together. I think a lot of it is the small toy lasers or laser pointers or cat toys. But these aren't the ones most likely to fuck shit up. It's the industrial green lasers that put out the high diameter areas.

resistanze
11-13-2015, 02:34 PM
It's just another case of the media lumping everything together. I think a lot of it is the small toy lasers or laser pointers or cat toys. But these aren't the ones most likely to fuck shit up. It's the industrial green lasers that put out the high diameter areas.

How about not being a fucking retard and not pointing any types of lasers at aircrafts, just in case?

SpursforSix
11-13-2015, 02:39 PM
How about not being a fucking retard and not pointing any types of lasers at aircrafts, just in case?

I agree with this.

Blake
11-13-2015, 02:42 PM
But these aren't the ones most likely to fuck shit up. It's the industrial green lasers that put out the high diameter areas.

The pic in the op looks pretty green

SpursforSix
11-13-2015, 02:44 PM
The pic in the op looks pretty green

what's your point?

Blake
11-13-2015, 03:58 PM
what's your point?

You called pilots retards that have trouble landing a plane with a green laser light in their face

SpursforSix
11-13-2015, 04:03 PM
You called pilots retards that have trouble landing a plane with a green laser light in their face

I didn't call them retarded. Quite the opposite. My point was they're not retarded and trying to chase a little red dot all around the cabin.

Blake
11-13-2015, 04:20 PM
so are the pilots assumed to be retards? are they like cats that see a little red dot and they forget how to fly the fucking plane?

So we can assume this post is retarded

DMC
11-13-2015, 04:37 PM
While some of them, shoot maybe all of them need a hug certainly this guy does*.
This is why the option of counseling.
*Assuming his defense liarwyer is not making it all up.

UPDATED March 17 2015: Balaguer was charged on March 16 2015 in federal court with aiming a laser pointer at an aircraft. This has a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. FAA officials said they had to redirect traffic in and out of LaGuardia on March 9 to avoid going over the Bronx, where Balaguer and Egan lived. Balaguer’s attorney said the suspect “uses methadone every day and takes medication for bipolar disorder”, and that he was “harmless”: “It was stupidity, not venality.” From the Wall Street Journal. (http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2015/03/16/bronx-man-who-confessed-to-laser-pointer-incident-charged-in-federal-court/)
UPDATED May 5 2015: Balauger pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court to aiming a laser pointer at an aircraft. He could face up to five years in prison. The judge said sentencing guidelines call for between 2 and 2 1/2 years. He said sentencing of Balauger would not be routine “Given his psychiatric history, given his apparent lack of any wrongful intent, I can see one set of arguments being made; on the other hand I can see a different set of arguments because of the danger presented,” said the judge. Sentencing was scheduled for September 9 2015. According to the New York Post, Balauger is a disabled ex-heroin dealer who has a history of schizophrenia and left school after ninth grade.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2151484!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/laser17n-3-web.jpg

Elehecer Balaguer
Yeah, ex heroin dealer with a mental problem tries to take down airliners. Why didn't he arbitrarily try to provide food and shelter to the homeless? No, it's something horrific. Fuck him.

DMC
11-13-2015, 04:39 PM
so are the pilots assumed to be retards? are they like cats that see a little red dot and they forget how to fly the fucking plane?
What cat can fly a plane?

SpursforSix
11-13-2015, 04:45 PM
What cat can fly a plane?

translation...hey...know any cats that could...yep...
tell me about Sleepy John Estes....
how about I just let you...yesssss......

Vwk0kOF0uI4

DMC
11-13-2015, 05:24 PM
Or Tunses

SpursforSix
11-13-2015, 06:09 PM
Or Tunses

when comedy was comedy