Paris attacks

[DarrinS]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/world/europe/multiple-attacks-roil-paris-president-hollande-is-evacuated-from-stadium.html?_r=0

[boutons_deux]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/world/europe/multiple-attacks-roil-paris-president-hollande-is-evacuated-from-stadium.html?_r=0

do you follow the political forum? there's already a thread.

[ElNono]

RIP, tbh

[DarrinS]

do you follow the political forum? there's already a thread.


I didn't see one.

[DarrinS]

France is declaring a state of emergency and closing its borders

http://www.vox.com/world/2015/11/13/9732746/paris-attacks-francois-hollande

[rmt]

France is declaring a state of emergency and closing its borders

http://www.vox.com/world/2015/11/13/9732746/paris-attacks-francois-hollande

Oh, the irony of closing its borders. Maybe other countries will re-consider their open border policy.

[DarrinS]

I guess that hostage situation is ongoing?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I guess that hostage situation is ongoing?

Sounds like it. They are saying up to 8 people are holding 100 people hostage. Instead of being killed 1 by 1 a hundred people can overtake 8 gunmen. Of course some will die in the process but seems better than waiting around to be shot. Anyone arguing against concealed carry at a time like that would be a fool.

[rmt]

Sounds like it. They are saying up to 8 people are holding 100 people hostage. Instead of being killed 1 by 1 a hundred people can overtake 8 gunmen. Of course some will die in the process but seems better than waiting around to be shot. Anyone arguing against concealed carry at a time like that would be a fool.

This sounds like Ben Carson's suggestion. I'd take my chances rushing them than get picked off like a sitting duck.

[ElNono]

Sounds like it. They are saying up to 8 people are holding 100 people hostage. Instead of being killed 1 by 1 a hundred people can overtake 8 gunmen. Of course some will die in the process but seems better than waiting around to be shot. Anyone arguing against concealed carry at a time like that would be a fool.

Or he can get himself and dozens more killed. It's not like these guys are afraid to spray bullets to the crowd or die.

Just give it a rest.

[ElNono]

Police storming the Concert Hall right now...

[ElNono]

Angela Merkel, chancellor of Germany:

"I am deeply shaken by the news and pictures that are reaching us from Paris. My thoughts in these hours are with the victims of what appears to be a terrorist attack, as well as with their relatives and all people in Paris," she said in a statement. "The German government is in contact with the French government and has passed on a message of sympathy and solidarity from the German people," - Reuters

[TheSanityAnnex]

Or he can get himself and dozens more killed. It's not like these guys are afraid to spray bullets to the crowd or die.

Just give it a rest.

They were already killing them what the fuck would there be to lose? You'd just sit in the corner waiting to executed? Sorry but no way I'd go out like that armed or not.

[ElNono]

Live thread on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/live/vwwmdb26t78v

[ElNono]

They were already killing them what the fuck would there be to lose? You'd just sit in the corner waiting to executed? Sorry but no way I'd go out like that armed or not.

No, but that's besides the point. You don't know a thing about the situation in there. Just give it a fucking rest with the gun agenda for minute.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Angela Merkel, chancellor of Germany:

"I am deeply shaken by the news and pictures that are reaching us from Paris. My thoughts in these hours are with the victims of what appears to be a terrorist attack, as well as with their relatives and all people in Paris," she said in a statement. "The German government is in contact with the French government and has passed on a message of sympathy and solidarity from the German people," - Reuters

Germany is fucked and will be next up. Merkel is about to have a lot of blood on her hands. Time to shut the borders and round up and ship out the 1 million "lol refugees" they welcomed in. Europe is fucked, sad times we are about to witness.

[TheSanityAnnex]

No, but that's besides the point. You don't know a thing about the situation in there. Just give it a fucking rest with the gun agenda for minute.

They are shooting people, how is discussing guns besides the point? Like I already said armed or not I'm not going out like that.

[ElNono]

They are shooting people, how is discussing guns besides the point? Like I already said armed or not I'm not going out like that.

smh

[TheSanityAnnex]

smh

shake your head all you want Nono. What do you think every single hostage in there is wishing they had on them?

[ElNono]

shake your head all you want Nono. What do you think every single hostage in there is wishing they had on them?

How do you know they didn't jump em? You don't know shit. Have a little respect, it's all I'm saying.

[FkLA]

NOS: French media report that the raid of Bataclan has ended. Two terrorist are killed, more details not known.

[ElNono]

Reuters reporting raid over, 2 attackers killed, multiple fatalities

[ElNono]

One gunman reportedly had an automatic rifle and the other had explosives.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

Germany is fucked and will be next up. Merkel is about to have a lot of blood on her hands. Time to shut the borders and round up and ship out the 1 million "lol refugees" they welcomed in. Europe is fucked, sad times we are about to witness.

Have you seen this yet?

http://liveleak.com/view?i=cb0_1447249820

Its been banned from YouTube

[Biernutz]

2 terrorist had ak47 shooting concert goers ...they were reloading and killing people...they are both dead now

[TheSanityAnnex]

How do you know they didn't jump em? You don't know shit. Have a little respect, it's all I'm saying.

Have some respect? Not sure where I didn't. If it comes out they jumped them great, but reports I read were they were being executed one by one so doesn't sound like they rushed anyone.

I think we are misunderstanding each other, no reason to argue over hypotheticals. I'm logging off and turning the news off, this shit saddens me and pisses me off to no end. Terrible start to a weekend.

RIP to the victims and fuck all radical Muslims.

[ElNono]

Have some respect? Not sure where I didn't. If it comes out they jumped them great, but reports I read were they were being executed one by one so doesn't sound like they rushed anyone.

I think we are misunderstanding each other, no reason to argue over hypotheticals. I'm logging off and turning the news off, this shit saddens me and pisses me off to no end. Terrible start to a weekend.

RIP to the victims and fuck all radical Muslims.

I think the gun debate can wait till tomorrow... that's all, just my opinion.

[Biernutz]

Just reported.......100 were killed in the concert hall

Terrorist threw explosives at concert goers

over 1000 at the concert..terrorist were on the 2nd floor shooting down 0n the concert goers...

captured terrorist said it was a ISIS operation

[DarrinS]

Just reported.......100 were killed in the concert hall

Terrorist threw explosives at concert goers

over 1000 at the concert..terrorist were on the 2nd floor shooting down 0n the concert goers...


Pure evil

[Biernutz]

France has closed down all borders and declared a state of emergency....

terrorist carried out attacks at a shopping mall and a restaurant. Possible 5 attacks different locations

[RD2191]

100 reported dead inside the Bataclan. I think I'm going to be sick

[Biernutz]

a estmated total killed in terrorist attacks around Paris 140

[Biernutz]

1500 French soldiers are deployed around Pairs...a curfew is declared for Paris for the first
time since 1940

[Bender]

doesn't obongo want to start accepting all the refugees over here?

i'm counting the days tills he's gone

[ElNono]

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[Cry Havoc]

100 reported dead inside the Bataclan. I think I'm going to be sick

I know we talk a lot of shit but damn this is really fucking sad. Can't imagine being in Paris right now.

[ChumpDumper]

Sounds like it. They are saying up to 8 people are holding 100 people hostage. Instead of being killed 1 by 1 a hundred people can overtake 8 gunmen. Of course some will die in the process but seems better than waiting around to be shot. Anyone arguing against concealed carry at a time like that would be a fool.Congratulations on immediately injecting your agenda into this tragedy before any bodies are cold.

[Blizzardwizard]

Sounds like it. They are saying up to 8 people are holding 100 people hostage. Instead of being killed 1 by 1 a hundred people can overtake 8 gunmen. Of course some will die in the process but seems better than waiting around to be shot. Anyone arguing against concealed carry at a time like that would be a fool.

Criticises anti-gun people for promoting agenda immediately after shootings,

Promotes pro gun agenda immediately after shooting.

[Cry Havoc]

The video where you can hear the automatic weapons fire is fucking haunting. Don't think I'll sleep well tonight.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Congratulations on immediately injecting your agenda into this tragedy before any bodies are cold.
Thanks.
What is the one thing you think each person wishes they had while being held hostage?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Criticises anti-gun people for promoting agenda immediately after shootings,

Promotes pro gun agenda immediately after shooting.
What is the one thing you think each person wishes they had while being held hostage?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Hope this does not inspire others to continue across Europe in the next few days.

[ElNono]

France 24 reporter reaction to Newt Gingrich's tweet: "Shame on you". Referring to this tweet:

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[DMX7]

I rather live in a world where we do our best keep automatic weapons out of the hands of lunatics than live in one where I have to carry a gun to the mall, movie theater, school, church, park, etc.

[boutons_deux]

If this is ISIS payback for France attacking ISIS is Syria, Iraq ...

Thanks, Repugs! Fuck you, dubya, cheney, wolfowitz, feith, BigOil, PNAC, neocons.

[DarrinS]

If this is ISIS payback for France attacking ISIS is Syria, Iraq ...

Thanks, Repugs! Fuck you, dubya, cheney, wolfowitz, feith, BigOil, PNAC, neocons.


Dickishness on a Trumpian level

[DarrinS]

So, some of the terrorists still not accounted for?

[DarrinS]

I rather live in a world where we do our best keep automatic weapons out of the hands of lunatics than live in one where I have to carry a gun to the mall, movie theater, school, church, park, etc.

Me too, but good luck with that.

[Spurminator]

This is fucked up.

[TheSanityAnnex]

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http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpszipfmbiw.jpeg

[boutons_deux]

Newt Gingrich
✔@newtgingrich (https://twitter.com/newtgingrich)

Now can we have a serious debate about millions of Syrian refugees and how many terrorists will be in the crowd


Hey, Noot, you nasty motherfucking Muslim hater, why are the so many Syrian, Iraqi, Afghani refugees?

[Aztecfan03]

CBS is only confirming 60 dead right now.

[hater]

So is Assad still Us and NATO priority #1???

Stop supporting terrorist factions NATO, just so you can oust Assad for your empire. Join forces with Russia and take out the terrorists.

This is a big sign terrorists are hurting. They are desperate.

[hitmanyr2k]

France 24 reporter reaction to Newt Gingrich's tweet: "Shame on you". Referring to this tweet:

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Imagine a bunch of dumb yahoos in a theater carrying concealed weapons being confused about seeing a bunch of other dumb yahoos with guns not knowing who the fuck they should shoot. Imagine :lol

[Mal]

Great job France. It could`ve been prevented..

[Splits]

What is the one thing you think each person wishes they had while being held hostage?

I can guarantee you not a single Parisian is thinking this, you sick fuck. There is only one, tiny, demented faction of one political party in the entire Western world that thinks this way.

[hater]

Once again my gut tells me these terrorists are highly trains jackals that came in undercover with the Syrian refugee wave. I hope I'm wrong but its very likely ISIS sent thousands of highly trained jackals already. Europe is fucked

Europe basically has a rope around their neck. Only option is war.

[boutons_deux]

What is the one thing you think each person wishes they had while being held hostage?

TSA shilling for the gun industry.

Do you wish Repugs had not destabilized the Middle East for oil, that France hadn't decided to bomb ISIS?

[Mal]

I hope all those muslims fucktards in whole Europe will get what they truly deserves.

I`ll just wait for all those morons who are "leaders of europe", when they will be denying that Islam have something to do with it. It`will be a good laugh

[DMX7]

USA basically started a religious war in Iraq that's going wide spread. Is there anything we do better?

[Mal]

Once again my gut tells me these terrorists are highly trains jackals that came in undercover with the Syrian refugee wave. I hope I'm wrong but its very likely ISIS sent thousands of highly trained jackals already. Europe is fucked

Europe basically has a rope around their neck. Only option is war.

Yeah, but when countries like Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia said so, they were told to shut up and named untolerant. Guess last laugh is their

[hater]

Typical..worst terror attack in Euro history and dumb shit American fat fucks start a gun control debate :lmao

Fuck this country :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

I can guarantee you not a single Parisian is thinking this, you sick fuck. There is only one, tiny, demented faction of one political party in the entire Western world that thinks this way.

At the time of being held hostage you couldn't be more wrong.

[DarrinS]

I hope all those muslims fucktards in whole Europe will get what they truly deserves.

I`ll just wait for all those morons who are "leaders of europe", when they will be denying that Islam have something to do with it. It`will be a good laugh

Good luck figuring out the good ones from the bad.

[hater]

Gun control debate :lol

Americans are some mongoloid retards :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

TSA shilling for the gun industry.

Do you wish Repugs had not destabilized the Middle East for oil, that France hadn't decided to bomb ISIS?
To answer your questions yes and no.

[Mal]

Good luck figuring out the good ones from the bad.

That`s why we(Europe) shouldnt take anyone. They have no papers, no passports, mostly young males. It was so fucking easy to prevent :lmao

[TheSanityAnnex]

Typical..worst terror attack in Euro history and dumb shit American fat fucks start a gun control debate :lmao

Fuck this country :lol
---Spurstalk
--------Political Forum

[ElNono]

France had it's share of extremist attacks before the latest immigration crisis. Let's see where these guys came from before jumping into conclusions.

[resistanze]

Gun control debate :lol

Americans are some mongoloid retards :lol

:lol there's almost glee from the mongs in this thread over these attacks

[Splits]

At the time of being held hostage you couldn't be more wrong.

Well apparently there were 1500 inside the theater. I look forward to you posting a single article, blog post, video, or any proof in the coming days from a single hostage who claims they wish they were packing heat, you demented fuck.

[DarrinS]

That`s why we(Europe) shouldnt take anyone. They have no papers, no passports, mostly young males. It was so fucking easy to prevent :lmao

They'd rather be seen as compassionate, I suppose. It is troubling that so many were young men.

[DarrinS]

:lol there's almost glee from the mongs in this thread over these attacks

No glee here, I can assure you.

[Splits]

Meanwhile, in America this year...

http://i.imgur.com/mE6UYUx.png

[Mal]

They'd rather be seen as compassionate, I suppose. It is troubling that so many were young men.

But everybody knew that those fucktards weren`t from Syria. They were from all over middle east and northern africa. Only Hungarians, Slovaks and Czechs were doing shit to prevent this. Poland recently changed goverment, so we will join our south neighbours. Rest is still debating what to do :lmao

[hater]

Let me get this straight. The retards are blaming:
- the lack of guns by civilians
- the abundance of refugees

And retards are failing to see the regime change and nation destabilization is what caused this. lybia caused this. Syria caused this. France caused thus. US caused this. Hillary caused this.

[DarrinS]

Let me get this straight. The retards are blaming:
- the lack of guns by civilians
- the abundance of refugees

And retards are failing to see the regime change and nation destabilization is what caused this. lybia caused this. Syria caused this. France caused thus. US caused this. Hillary caused this.


You're a delusional Trump supporter. Why should anyone listen to you?

[DarrinS]

Lol, that hater thinks these attacks are politically motivated.

[hater]

Lol, that hater thinks these attacks are politically motivated.

Only a complete idiot would fail to see these attacks are the results of destabilization in Iraq, Libya and Syria.

Hi idiot

[SnakeBoy]

I rather live in a world where we do our best keep automatic weapons out of the hands of lunatics than live in one where I have to carry a gun to the mall, movie theater, school, church, park, etc.

France doesn't do it's best to keep automatic weapons out of the hands of lunatics?

[hater]

France doesn't do it's best to keep automatic weapons out of the hands of lunatics?

It's fair to say French government, defense and intelligence failed miserably tonight. Heads should roll

[SnakeBoy]

USA basically started a religious war in Iraq that's going wide spread. Is there anything we do better?

You do realize that muslim terrorists were conducting war on the "West" long before the Iraq war.

[hater]

You do realize that muslim terrorists were conducting war on the "West" long before the Iraq war.

You do realize West was conducting intervention in the Middle East long before Muslim terrorists?

[DMX7]

You do realize that muslim terrorists were conducting war on the "West" long before the Iraq war.

You do realize ISIS didn't exist before we invaded Iraq and that we exacerbated the problem.

[boutons_deux]

You do realize that muslim terrorists were conducting war on the "West" long before the Iraq war.


... so the Repug Iraq War for Oil was justified?

Do you realized that OBL hitting WTC was because he hated US militiary boots occupying Saudi Arabia's sacred sands?

[DarrinS]

Lol, at people totally misunderstanding this ideology. Yes, destabilization created ISIS, but ISIS doesn't give a shit about oil, other than its potential to fund killing infidels.

[DMX7]

L ISIS doesn't give a shit about oil, other than its potential to fund killing infidels.

Who said this?

[Biernutz]

Meanwhile, in America this year...

http://i.imgur.com/mE6UYUx.png

where did you get this chart ....link......

[Splits]

where did you get this chart ....link......

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

[Biernutz]

... so the Repug Iraq War for Oil was justified?

Do you realized that OBL hitting WTC was because he hated US militiary boots occupying Saudi Arabia's sacred sands?

Would the twin towers still be standing today if Bill Clinton would have taken OBL out when
he had the chance?

[DarrinS]

Who said this?

I did.

[hater]

Would the twin towers still be standing today if Bill Clinton would have taken OBL out when
he had the chance?

The twin towers would be standing if Charlie Wilson had not armed and funds Alqaeda vs Ussr in Afghanistan

[Spurminator]

The ideology is simply there to convince stupid people to strap bombs to themselves. You'll notice the leaders of these terrorist organizations are never the ones doing the suicide bombings, despite all of its supposed rewards.

[hater]

The ideology is simply there to convince stupid people to strap bombs good to themselves. You'll notice the leaders of these terrorist organizations are never the ones doing the suicide bombings, despite all of its supposed rewards.

Good point. First there is the funding: Saudi, quatar

Then there's the training: Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq

Then there's the arming: US, Israel, Saudi, Quatar

And finally there's the destabilization.: US, France, NATO

All those ingredients created this.

[Biernutz]

The twin towers would be standing if Charlie Wilson had not armed and funds Alqaeda vs Ussr in Afghanistan
USSR was considered the big threat then...who planed the The twin tower ? OBL. it might not have
happen if Bill Clinton takes out OBL when he had the chance...

[Splits]

Would the twin towers still be standing today if Bill Clinton would have taken OBL out when
he had the chance?

"Bin Laden determined to strike in US"

"OK, you covered your ass. Now watch this drive."

[Biernutz]

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

Charts are as good as the data that goes in them and how it's used.
Not everyone thinks the data in your chart is that good....

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/01/foghorn/gun-violence-archive-flawed-start/

[DMX7]

Nice tribute.

www.amazon.com

[T_L_P]

They are shooting people, how is discussing guns besides the point? Like I already said armed or not I'm not going out like that.

Because America is the home of mass shootings (which are terrorist attacks) you numbskull.

Stop acting like because you have guns this doesn't happen. Maybe 1 in every 20 potential mass shooting is stopped by your citizens. The other 19 happen, and they happen in large because the perpetrators have easy access to killing machines.

This isn't a gun issue, at all. It's an immigration issue.

[Mal]

Let me get this straight. The retards are blaming:
- the lack of guns by civilians
- the abundance of refugees

And retards are failing to see the regime change and nation destabilization is what caused this. lybia caused this. Syria caused this. France caused thus. US caused this. Hillary caused this.

You are absolutetly right. When there was regime, who was keeping all those people in desert, close to oil fields everything was ok. Of course there were some killings involved in that process. But then the US, NATO and France decided to "give power to people" and take control of oil fields.

[ChumpDumper]

Thanks.
What is the one thing you think each person wishes they had while being held hostage?What's the only thing you ever post about?

[hater]

Btw to the cowboys in the thread. These guys were higly trained and were strapped with explosives and suicide vests.

You shoot them and they will detonate them all blowing you into a million pieces. This is exactly what happened at the theatre. Police rushed in and they detonated themselves immediately

:lol gun retards

[hater]

Btw Syrian passport found on one of the terrorists uhoh

Europe is fucked

[DarrinS]

Mizzou snowflakes upset that Paris distracted from their "cause"

Smh


http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/13/liberal-activists-upset-paris-terrorist-attacks-are-getting-attention-not-missouri/

[Pelicans78]

Once again my gut tells me these terrorists are highly trains jackals that came in undercover with the Syrian refugee wave. I hope I'm wrong but its very likely ISIS sent thousands of highly trained jackals already. Europe is fucked

Europe basically has a rope around their neck. Only option is war.

This was most likely European guys who went to Syria to train and went back to execute this plan.

[Pelicans78]

... so the Repug Iraq War for Oil was justified?

Do you realized that OBL hitting WTC was because he hated US militiary boots occupying Saudi Arabia's sacred sands?

The Saudis had no choice. If the U.S. didnt intervene, Saddam would have taken them over as well as he did Kuwait. OBL's group wasn't strong enough to prevent it. In fact, every country worldwide were in a coalition with the U.S. during the first Gulf War.

[hater]

This was most likely European guys who went to Syria to train and went back to execute this plan.

Not really. Syrian passports at least 2 of them already. My gut was right again :pctoss

[baseline bum]

Not really. Syrian passports at least 2 of them already. My gut was right again :pctoss

link?

[Pelicans78]

Not really. Syrian passports at least 2 of them already. My gut was right again :pctoss

That's the point. They went to Syria to train and came back to execute the plan.

[hater]

That's the point. They went to Syria to train and came back to execute the plan.

Why would French nationals carry around Syrian passport? Makes no sense.

[hater]

link?

Sorry no link. But saw it on various reliable twitter feeds

[ElNono]

Europe 1 radio says the first attacker is identified as a French national, with ties with the jihad. Apparently, he was on a list of people deemed dangerous, and under heavy surveillance.

He was identified through fingerprints, and lived in Courcouronnes, about 35km south of Paris.

link (spanish): http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1845493-identificaron-al-primer-terrorista-de-los-atentados-de-paris-es-un-kamikaze-frances-con-vinculos-jihadistas

[ElNono]

According to Le Figaro, the 4 Bataclan attackers spoke french, as determined by recordings.

There was also one Syrian passport and one Egyptian passport found near the bodies of the suicide bombers close to the soccer stadium.

[HarlemHeat37]

Can't wait to see the worldwide outrage if it's officially confirmed that a Syrian passport was found, illogical or not, tbh:lol..should be entertaining..

[ElNono]

I guess all this info is fast-moving, they changed that article on the link like 3 times already lol

[Pelicans78]

Why would French nationals carry around Syrian passport? Makes no sense.

They had French, Egyptian, and Syrian passports.

[Pelicans78]

Europe 1 radio says the first attacker is identified as a French national, with ties with the jihad. Apparently, he was on a list of people deemed dangerous, and under heavy surveillance.

He was identified through fingerprints, and lived in Courcouronnes, about 35km south of Paris.

link (spanish): http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1845493-identificaron-al-primer-terrorista-de-los-atentados-de-paris-es-un-kamikaze-frances-con-vinculos-jihadistas

Yup. These guys were French nationals who trained in Syria and went back to execute this.

[Canyonero]

If something was missing, now a train derailed near Strasbourg. Five dead.

[MultiTroll]

Europe 1 radio says the first attacker is identified as a French national, with ties with the jihad. Apparently, he was on a list of people deemed dangerous, and under heavy surveillance.
Highly disturbing.
While not expecting perfection from police, is this another FBI -CIA 9/11 type f up by some in upper management?
Related are Frances CIA hands tied by a bunch of idiot laws protecting would-be terrorists?

[mingus]

Yeah, disturbing that in this age of far reaching surveillance, coordinated attacks like this can still happen. Especially if he had returned from ME as alleged.

I don't doubt that France along with US intel doing everything they can to prevent such catastrophe. But terrorists have and will continue to slip through cracks, like virus if you don't wipe them all out (impossible anyway), they'll learn and evolve to figure out ways to beat you.

[TheSanityAnnex]

What's the only thing you ever post about?
You failed to answer the question.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You shoot them and they will detonate them all blowing you into a million pieces. This is exactly what happened at the theatre. Police rushed in and they detonated themselves immediately

link?

[ChumpDumper]

You failed to answer the question.I don't know. I have never seen an interview with a hostage saying he wished he had bought a gun and taken a chl course and carried it with him everywhere.

Do you have a link saying every hostage wants this?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't know. I have never seen an interview with a hostage saying he wished he had bought a gun and taken a chl course and carried it with him everywhere.

Do you have a link saying every hostage wants this?

Not a typical question asked by an interviewer.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Strange that they did this so soon. You'd think they'd try to avoid the backlash from this and get as many "lol refugees" into Europe as possible. Although maybe this is a different approach. The backlash now from Europeans against even moderate peaceful Muslims may convert even more moderates to join the terrorists.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Mizzou snowflakes upset that Paris distracted from their "cause"

Smh


http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/13/liberal-activists-upset-paris-terrorist-attacks-are-getting-attention-not-missouri/

Lol

[ChumpDumper]

Not a typical question asked by an interviewer.Why wouldn't hostage victims just say it in a statement anywhere?

Do you any evidence of every hostage thinking that at all?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why wouldn't hostage victims just say it in a statement anywhere?

Do you any evidence of every hostage thinking that at all?
Please direct any questions about hostages wishing they were armed to me in a PM. It's quite obvious you'd like to derail this and I won't be a part of it any longer.

[ChumpDumper]

Please direct any questions about hostages wishing they were armed to me in a PM. It's quite obvious you'd like to derail this and I won't be a part of it any longer.Why did you bring it up in the first place, chickenshit?

Leave your knee-jerk agenda pushing out of threads like these and you won't have to put your tail between your legs you are now.

[Splits]

Why wouldn't hostage victims just say it in a statement anywhere?

Do you any evidence of every hostage thinking that at all?

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/armed-vet-destroys-gun-nuts-argument-on-mass-shooters-by-explaining-why-he-didnt-attack-oregon-killer/


A veteran who says he was carrying a concealed weapon on Oregon’s Umpqua Community College campus Thursday when 26-year-old Christopher Harper Mercer went on a murderous rampage, says he didn’t intervene because he knew police SWAT team members wouldn’t know him from the shooter.

In an interview with MSNBC, veteran John Parker said he knows lots of students who conceal carry at the school because, despite a school policy that discourages weapons on campus, Oregon state law does allow it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why did you bring it up in the first place, chickenshit?

Leave your knee-jerk agenda pushing out of threads like these and you won't have to put your tail between your legs you are now.

Had I not brought it up would you even be in this thread? You haven't discussed the OP a single time.

[ChumpDumper]

Had I not brought it up would you even be in this thread?Sure.
You haven't discussed the OP a single time.I wanted to discuss the bullshit agenda you brought up. Once I called you out, all the sudden you put on your forum cop uniform.

Pick a lane, chickenshit.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll be back after lunch to see if you want to play snarky agenda pusher or faux-indignant schoolmarm.

You have some time to rehearse. Use it well.

[tholdren]

Who cares

[TheSanityAnnex]

Sure.I wanted to discuss the bullshit agenda you brought up. Once I called you out, all the sudden you put on your forum cop uniform.

Pick a lane, chickenshit.
And I've given you the option via PM.

Now that we have that cleared up I'm eagerly awaiting your first on topic reply to the OP.

[ElNono]

link?

At the packed Bataclan concert hall in eastern Paris, the attackers opened fire on a crowd waiting to hear American rock band Eagles of Death Metal perform. One witness told France Info radio he heard them yell "Allahu Akbar" — God is great in Arabic — as they started their killing spree and took hostages. The city's police chief, Michel Cadot, said the assailants also wore explosive belts, which they detonated.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/article44624028.html

[Blizzardwizard]

What is the one thing you think each person wishes they had while being held hostage?

Not a gun.

[tlongII]

Not a gun.

That's what I would want.

[boutons_deux]

That's what I would want.

first, scarecrow wants a brain.

[johnsmith]

Typical..worst terror attack in Euro history and dumb shit American fat fucks start a gun control debate :lmao

Fuck this country :lol


I know right? I can't believe people are bringing up political issues in the, errr, political forum on this site!

You're a fucking idiot.

[johnsmith]

The fake outrage has never been as thick as it is right now in this forum. Keep it up you crybaby bitches

[boutons_deux]

for gun fellators, all the world's target

[DarrinS]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/paris-terror-attacks-blowback-or-false-flag-france-declares-a-state-of-emergency/5488973
(excerpt)
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Friday Paris attacks were either blowback for Western wars on Islam or a state-sponsored false flag. Odds strongly favor the latter. Western history of false flags for subsequent planned events suggests it.
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I'm not taking a stand yet but I wouldn't rule out a prior knowledge false flag attack. Let's see what kinds of changes in the law happen because of this in Europe and in the US.


Quit peddling this garbage

[johnsmith]

What?

Boutons, your shit makes no sense. You're dumb

[Avante]

There is no such thing as...radical Islam/Muslims. The ones being violent are doing what they are suppose to be doing, we do have moderate Islam/Muslims. Those smart enought to figure out Mohammad is no longer raiding caravans.

Imagine people anxious to give their life to join the other heros in Paradise. Wow~~~~

[DarrinS]

One of the terrorists registered in Leros island as a refugee last month

https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/armed-vet-destroys-gun-nuts-argument-on-mass-shooters-by-explaining-why-he-didnt-attack-oregon-killer/
How many of those students carrying concealed were killed that day?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Not a gun.

What then?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Chumpdumper back from lunch and ready to discuss the OP I'm sure.

[ChumpDumper]

And I've given you the option via PM. Why do it there? You brought up your agenda here -- why are you running away from it now?


Now that we have that cleared up I'm eagerly awaiting your first on topic reply to the OP.I'm talking about your first reply in this thread. Why is that suddenly off limits?

I eagerly await your not being a total pussy and answering these questions about what you posted in your first reply to this thread. If your reply had nothing to do with the OP, there is no way you can try to forum cop it away now.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'm hoping we put an immediate stop to any and all incoming "lol refugees" from Syria.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why do it there? You brought up your agenda here -- why are you running away from it now?

I'm talking about your first reply in this thread. Why is that suddenly off limits?

I eagerly await your not being a total pussy and answering these questions about what you posted in your first reply to this thread.

I'm not running away from anything. If I was in that situation I sure as fuck would want the means to at least attempt to fight for my life and I assume every single person in there felt the same. Your question has been answered, will you finally discuss the OP?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not running away from anything. If I was in that situation I sure as fuck would want the means to at least attempt to fight for my life and I assume every single person in there felt the same. Your question has been answered, will you finally discuss the OP?Actually my questions have not been answered.

Why did you declare your agenda off limits and play forum cop when I called you out on it?

I asked you for any evidence that every person in the situation you described wished he had a gun. You provided nothing but a pissy attempt to "stick to the OP".

Why don't you want to discuss what you brought up yourself?

[boutons_deux]

I'm hoping we put an immediate stop to any and all incoming "lol refugees" from Syria.

why are there so many refugees from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan?

[DarrinS]

One of the terrorists registered in Leros island as a refugee last month

https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289



Evidently, now two are confirmed refugees

[TheSanityAnnex]

Actually my questions have not been answered.

Why did you declare your agenda off limits and play forum cop when I called you out on it? trying to not let you derail the thread further but that is apparently what you want to do.


I asked you for any evidence that every person in the situation you described wished he had a gun. You provided nothing but a pissy attempt to "stick to the OP".i can also assume they all had footwear on but am going to have a hard time providing evidence for you


Why don't you want to discuss what you brought up yourself?Because my statement doesn't warrant this much discussion. I assume the hostages wished they had the means to try and save their own lives, you don't. I'm ready to move past that and discuss the OP but you'd rather continue sidetracking the conversation.

Questions answered, try discussing the OP for your first time in this thread. How do you think the mass influx of the "lol refugees" is going to play out in Europe? Is it starting to look like a poor decision? How many more terrorists attacks do you expect from the "lol refugees" in Europe? Do you think we should still bring in "lol refugees" from Syria to the United States?

[TheSanityAnnex]

why are there so many refugees from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan?
I didn't support invading Iraq and I don't support bringing any "lol refugees" to the United States. Blaming repugs does nothing to solve the problem.

I'll ask you the same as I asked Chumpdumper because at least you'll answer.

How do you think the mass influx of the "lol refugees" is going to play out in Europe? Is it starting to look like a poor decision? How many more terrorists attacks do you expect from the "lol refugees" in Europe? Do you think we should still bring in "lol refugees" from Syria to the United States?

[ChumpDumper]

trying to not let you derail the thread further but that is apparently what you want to do.So it's OK when you derail it?


i can also assume they all had footwear on but am going to have a hard time providing evidence for youSo you learned a lesson about making stupid claims. /Good.


Because my statement doesn't warrant this much discussion. I assume the hostages wished they had the means to try and save their own lives, you don't. I'm ready to move past that and discuss the OP but you'd rather continue sidetracking the conversation.So you just are uncomfortable having your snarky agenda pushing called out and just want to be able to get away with it. Another lesson for you.


Questions answered, try discussing the OP for your first time in this thread. How do you think the mass influx of the "lol refugees" is going to play out in Europe? Is it starting to look like a poor decision? How many more terrorists attacks do you expect from the "lol refugees" in Europe? Do you think we should still bring in "lol refugees" from Syria to the United States?So you characterize every person who left Syria for Europe as an "lol refugee"?

Explain yourself.

[ElNono]

I know right? I can't believe people are bringing up political issues in the, errr, political forum on this site!

You're a fucking idiot.

I have no problem with discussing the fallout of this now that we know more.

But bringing up the John Wayne/Rambo agenda when hostages are still held and we don't know much of anything of the situation is in poor taste, IMO.

[johnsmith]

I have no problem with discussing the fallout of this now that we know more.

But bringing up the John Wayne/Rambo agenda when hostages are still held and we don't know much of anything of the situation is in poor taste, IMO.

Ok, fair enough, and I apologize the the insult....however, if you're looking for class and respect, log off this dumb fucking forum where guys like boutons and avante run the asylum because you're looking in the wrong place. And frankly, you know that already.

So again, the fake outrage from pretty much everyone on this cesspool of a website seem a little silly.

[boutons_deux]

I didn't support invading Iraq and I don't support bringing any "lol refugees" to the United States. Blaming repugs does nothing to solve the problem.


Like most Christians, the vast majority of M/E refugees are decent people. And like some Christians, some refugees are actually religious, murderous extremists, wanting to payback USA, Euro for fucking up their countries.

Repugs destroying the Middle East then refusing to take in refugees is bullshit. Even Iraqis and Afganis who worked closely with US military as interpreters, etc, saving lives, have been refused or insanely red-taped in asking to immigrate to America.

If Obama proposed $100B (just 1/6 of the MIC ANNUAL IMPERIAL budget) to help Euros care for the Repugs' refugees, the Repugs would of course refuse.

[johnsmith]

There is no such thing as...radical Islam/Muslims. The ones being violent are doing what they are suppose to be doing, we do have moderate Islam/Muslims. Those smart enought to figure out Mohammad is no longer raiding caravans.

Imagine people anxious to give their life to join the other heros in Paradise. Wow~~~~

The fact that you don't think there is such thing as radical Muslims shows just how narrow minded and pea brained you are. Please step away from the keyboard, throw your car keys away and dispose of your cell phone so that you can no longer be included in society and just continue being a drain on social security until you do the world a favor and die.

One less child rapist on the Internet will be a blessing to society.

Also, absolutely do not reply to this post explaining to me that you've read books about Islam and are therefore now an expert you dumb, fat, racist, child molesting fucking clown.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So it's OK when you derail it?

So you learned a lesson about making stupid claims. /Good.

So you just are uncomfortable having your snarky agenda pushing called out and just want to be able to get away with it. Another lesson for you.There is no lesson here, I have no problem sticking with my claim that the hostages wished they had a way to try and save their own lives. Will I be able to provided evidence every single hostage felt that way of course not, but it is an assumption I am comfortable with.




So you characterize every person who left Syria for Europe as an "lol refugee"?

Explain yourself.You failed to answer a single question I asked. Try again.

[boutons_deux]

"Blaming repugs does nothing to solve the problem"

blaming Repugs corrects the ignorant assholes who blames Muslim terrorists exclusively for attacking the West. The Muslim terrorists have been CREATED by the West.

And the West doesn't know what to do when foreigners push back against Western aggression.

I don't see any solution to the Repug-destabilized Middle East. It will fester, or worse, for decades.

Thanks, Repugs and BigOil.

[ChumpDumper]

There is no lesson here, I have no problem sticking with my claim that the hostages wished they had a way to try and save their own lives. Will I be able to provided evidence every single hostage felt that way of course not, but it is an assumption I am comfortable with.So in other words "Please just let me make my snarky agenda push and leave me alone because i can't take anything resembling a challenge to my claims."

Fine. You should be comfortable with being called a pussy then.


You failed to answer a single question I asked. Try again.I need to know why you call them all "lol refugees" first.I don't know why you are calling them that, so i don't have a clear idea what you are saying. Don't be a pussy about this claim too. Explain yourself.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Like most Christians, the vast majority of M/E refugees are decent people. And like some Christians, some refugees are actually religious, murderous extremists, wanting to payback USA, Euro for fucking up their countries. The "lol refugees" that are decent people are not turning in nor speaking out against the extremists, they are a huge part of the problem.


Repugs destroying the Middle East then refusing to take in refugees is bullshit. Even Iraqis and Afganis who worked closely with US military as interpreters, etc, saving lives, have been refused or insanely red-taped in asking to immigrate to America.the Middle East was fucked long before Repugs did anything over there.


If Obama proposed $100B (just 1/6 of the MIC ANNUAL IMPERIAL budget) to help Euros care for the Repugs' refugees, the Repugs would of course refuse.As should every American.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So in other words "Please just let me make my snarky agenda push and leave me alone because i can't take anything resembling a challenge to my claims."

Fine. You should be comfortable with being called a pussy then.It's an impossible claim to verify, does it really bother you than much that I think the hostages would want to defend themselves? Are you claiming they didn't want to defend themselves?




I need to know why you call them all "lol refugees" first.I don't know why you are calling them that, so i don't have a clear idea what you are saying. Don't be a pussy about this claim too. Explain yourself. It's amusing you go around calling people pussies for not responding to your irrelevant questions all the while dodging relevant questions posed to you. I'll remove "lol refugees" so you have a clear idea what I am saying.

How do you think the mass influx of the refugees is going to play out in Europe? Is it starting to look like a poor decision? How many more terrorists attacks do you expect from the refugees in Europe? Do you think we should still bring in refugees from Syria to the United States?

[ChumpDumper]

It's an impossible claim to verify, does it really bother you than much that I think the hostages would want to defend themselves? Are you claiming they didn't want to defend themselves?I just proved that your claim had no basis in fact. Don't get pissy about it.




It's amusing you go around calling people pussies for not responding to your irrelevant questions all the while dodging relevant questions posed to you. I'll remove "lol refugees" so you have a clear idea what I am saying.Why are you caling them all "lol refugees" in the first place? It's a relavant question since you used it every time before being called out on it. This is a pattern with you.


How do you think the mass influx of the refugees is going to play out in Europe?I think reacionaries will be reactionary. the US lost its fucking mind and morals and judgment because of 9/11. I don't expect much different here. fear will rule their lives just like it rules yours.
Is it starting to look like a poor decision?Considering the European nationals who apparently also took part in the attacks, I'm not sure how much difference it makes.
How many more terrorists attacks do you expect from the refugees in Europe?I cannot give a number with any certainty, can you? What is your number prediction?
Do you think we should still bring in refugees from Syria to the United States?Yes.

[spurraider21]

Chump is involved in about 90% of thread derailings but never claims responsibility

[ChumpDumper]

Chump is involved in about 90% of thread derailments but never claims responsibilityI have derailed many threads.

So have you.

Will you admit you do so?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I call them lol refugees because of all of the safe countries they cross once out of war torn Syria.

http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

[hater]

They had French, Egyptian, and Syrian passports.

Two of them are confirms Syrian jihadists that came to Europe via mass immigration. Europe is fuucked

[spurraider21]

I have derailed many threads.

So have you.

Will you admit you do so?
I've probably derailed a few over the last few years. You've probably derailed a few since making that post

[hater]

link?

Every news channel out there

[hater]

I know right? I can't believe people are bringing up political issues in the, errr, political forum on this site!

You're a fucking idiot.


Just shows how stupid Americans are. The gun debate has no place on.the day after the attacks. Moron

[TheSanityAnnex]

I just proved that your claim had no basis in fact. Don't get pissy about it.



Opinions don't work that way. I think the hostages at that very moment wished they had something to fight back with. Do you think the hostages at that very moment did not wish they had something to fight back with?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Just shows how stupid Americans are. The gun debate has no place on.the day after the attacks. Moron

So we can only discuss them getting shot by the terrorists with guns?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Chump is involved in about 90% of thread derailings but never claims responsibility

It's how he responds to topics that fly in the face of what he advocates.

[hater]

Opinions don't work that way. I think the hostages at that very moment wished they had something to fight back with. Do you think the hostages at that very moment did not wish they had something to fight back with?

Disagree. Vs a couple of ak47, suicide belt and grenade toting jihadists, hostages usually piss on their pants. Gun fellating rednecks included

[TheSanityAnnex]

I have derailed many threads.

So have you.

Will you admit you do so?going for the sneaky double derailment

[johnsmith]

Just shows how stupid Americans are. The gun debate has no place on.the day after the attacks. Moron

So a political topic has no place in n the politics forum eh? You're an idiot.

Sounds to me like you should log off here and go post a French flag on Facebook if you're feelers are getting too hurt in here.

For a guy with the name "hater", you're sure a pussy.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Disagree. Vs a couple of ak47, suicide belt and grenade toting jihadists, hostages usually piss on their pants. Gun fellating rednecks included

Fight or flight. Some have it in them some don't.

[ChumpDumper]

I call them lol refugees because of all of the safe countries they cross once out of war torn Syria.

http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.phpSo is being safe the only concern for a long term refugee?

Were you a long term refugee would you be content just to wait in a camp indefinitely if you had the opportunity to do something else?

[johnsmith]

Disagree. Vs a couple of ak47, suicide belt and grenade toting jihadists, hostages usually piss on their pants. Gun fellating rednecks included


you didn't answer his question you gaping vagina.

[ChumpDumper]

I've probably derailed a few over the last few years. You've probably derailed a few since making that postYou're doing it right now, so I'm not sure how you are trying to act superior here.

[hater]

Fight or flight. Some have it in them some don't.

No civilian even gun toting have a fight vs a trained suicidal explosive jihadist. Wake up to reality and stop living in Hollywood

[hater]

you didn't answer his question you gaping vagina.

Lol butthurt

:lol stupid gun fellating rednecks making a French attack a point on the US gun debate :lol dumb shits. Embarrassing their country in front of the world :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Opinions don't work that way. I think the hostages at that very moment wished they had something to fight back with. Do you think the hostages at that very moment did not wish they had something to fight back with?I don't know. It's very simple just to say that.

And of course opinions can be based in fact. Yours just aren't.

[johnsmith]

You're doing it right now, so I'm not sure how you are trying to act superior here.

Because in this instance, he is superior. You've been doing it day in and day out for a decade on this site. Same arguments, same logic, same routine. You're absolutely allowed to say whatever you want, but everyone else is allowed to make sure they remind you of how tired your act is and how pathetic it comes off when it's been done for this long.

[ChumpDumper]

Because in this instance, he is superior. You've been doing it day in and day out for a decade on this site. Same arguments, same logic, same routine. You're absolutely allowed to say whatever you want, but everyone else is allowed to make sure they remind you of how tired your act is and how pathetic it comes off when it's been done for this long.I think you missed a lot of his posting over the past year.

[johnsmith]

Lol butthurt

:lol stupid gun fellating rednecks making a French attack a point on the US gun debate :lol dumb shits. Embarrassing their country in front of the world :lol

I promise I'm not butt hurt that you're so stupid that you don't understand how or why someone would bring up a political topic on the politics forum regardless of timing.

[cd98]

no, moron, the Muslims attack in reprisal for 100Ks, Ms?, of Muslims killed, maimed, their homes and villages destroyed, wedding parties and 1000s dead as collateral damage massacred by American bombs, all tied to America fucking around in Middle East, invading Iraq for oil.

Please stop your stupidity. These terrorists are from Syria. US is not there getting oil. Obama wanted to bomb Syria. He is bombing and sending special units into Syria to kill ISIS.

[TheSanityAnnex]

No civilian even gun toting have a fight vs a trained suicidal explosive jihadist. Wake up to reality and stop living in Hollywood

So you are saying that in that very same scenario you would CHOOSE to not be armed and curl up in a ball waiting to be shot rather than trying to save your own life.

[johnsmith]

Lol butthurt

:lol stupid gun fellating rednecks making a French attack a point on the US gun debate :lol dumb shits. Embarrassing their country in front of the world :lol

Also, where is anyone embarrassing their country? This a subforum on a site dedicated to an NBA team. If you think this is a world stage, then you're far dumber than I had previously thought....which is saying something.

[johnsmith]

So you are saying that in that very same scenario you would CHOOSE to not be armed and curl up in a ball waiting to be shot rather than trying to save your own life.

He's saying that it's insensitive to even have this discussion today. Ya know, because of all the families of the victims that are almost certainly posting here today.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't know. It's very simple just to say that.

And of course opinions can be based in fact. Yours just aren't.

It's pretty safe to assume that someone in a life and death situation would want every advantage they could get in order to try and preserve their life.

[TheSanityAnnex]

He's saying that it's insensitive to even have this discussion today. Ya know, because of all the families of the victims that are almost certainly posting here today.
I thought it was only insensitive to have this discussion yesterday? Or is there a 24 hour window that hasn't passed yet?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Two of them are confirms Syrian jihadists that came to Europe via mass immigration. Europe is fuucked

Although we appear to value our own lives differently we can at least agree on this. Europe is fuucked.

[boutons_deux]

CIA Woolsey on msnbc blaming hero Snowden for Paris. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Please stop your stupidity. These terrorists are from Syria. US is not there getting oil. Obama wanted to bomb Syria. He is bombing and sending special units into Syria to kill ISIS.

US/UK/BigOil invaded Iraq for oil and then to regime change also Syria and Iran, too. ISIS arose DIRECTLY from the Repug-destabilized Middle East.

You motherfuckers are hilariously gullible, stupid, ignorant.

[Blizzardwizard]

So we can only discuss them getting shot by the terrorists with guns?

So if you like debating guns after events why do you always throw out the 'can't even wait until the bodies turn cold' when anyone anti-gun says anything about gun control after shootings? Does it only work one way?

[TheSanityAnnex]

So if you like debating guns after events why do you always throw out the 'can't even wait until the bodies turn cold' when anyone anti-gun says anything about gun control after shootings? Does it only work one way?
I wasn't debating guns I simply stated I bet the hostages wished they had a way to fight back.

[TheSanityAnnex]

CIA Woolsey on msnbc blaming hero Snowden for Paris. :lol

Although I side with what Snowden did, Woolsey has a point. Intelligence gathering on al-queda/isis/etc grinded to a halt once terrorists started using encryption or stopped using electronic communications all together.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Please stop your stupidity. These terrorists are from Syria. US is not there getting oil. Obama wanted to bomb Syria. He is bombing and sending special units into Syria to kill ISIS.
Word. If Obama was smart, he'd ally exclusively with Assad/Putin on Syria and exclusively operate AGAINST ISIS and the FSA/Al Nusra associated terrorist groups that have instigated this multi-year siege against the secular Alawite government. The Alawites have the right to defend themselves and retaliate against insurgency. ISIS needs to be destroyed ASAP, at all costs.

[ChumpDumper]

I wasn't debating guns I simply stated I bet the hostages wished they had a way to fight back.
Sounds like it. They are saying up to 8 people are holding 100 people hostage. Instead of being killed 1 by 1 a hundred people can overtake 8 gunmen. Of course some will die in the process but seems better than waiting around to be shot. Anyone arguing against concealed carry at a time like that would be a fool.That last part is definitely about gun policy.

[boutons_deux]

Although I side with what Snowden did, Woolsey has a point. Intelligence gathering on al-queda/isis/etc grinded to a halt once terrorists started using encryption or stopped using electronic communications all together.

the CIA/NSA hasn't changed on bit because of Snowden.

Strong encryption was available to everybody, including terrorists, before Snowden.

[hater]

So you are saying that in that very same scenario you would CHOOSE to not be armed and curl up in a ball waiting to be shot rather than trying to save your own life.

Vs a couple or armed explosive trained jihadists all civilians would. So would you and also so would the poster John Smith. Yall would shit your pants pik all other civilians.

[TheSanityAnnex]

That last part is definitely about gun policy.

Cool. And I still bet those hostages wished they had a way to fight back.

[ChumpDumper]

Cool. And I still bet those hostages wished they had a way to fight back.So your denial was silly.

[TheSanityAnnex]

the CIA/NSA hasn't changed on bit because of Snowden.

Strong encryption was available to everybody, including terrorists, before Snowden.

Terrorists were not using it then like they are now post Snowden revelations.

[johnsmith]

the CIA/NSA hasn't changed on bit because of Snowden.

Strong encryption was available to everybody, including terrorists, before Snowden.

How do you know that the CIA/NSA hasn't changed? Please explain

[TheSanityAnnex]

So your denial was silly.
Not denying and wasn't debating.

[boutons_deux]

How do you know that the CIA/NSA hasn't changed? Please explain

they're CIA/NSA, they makes their own rules, break everybody elses. There's no Congressional,or any, oversight, and the CIA/NSA know it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

the CIA/NSA hasn't changed on bit because of Snowden.

Strong encryption was available to everybody, including terrorists, before Snowden.

there are plenty of more articles I can link if you'd like

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10795567/Terrorists-given-full-sight-of-spy-methods-by-Snowden-leak-warns-counter-terrorism-official.html

[ChumpDumper]

Not denying and wasn't debating.Of course you just wanted to make your snarky political statement and let it remain unchallenged; you told us.

[johnsmith]

they're CIA/NSA, they makes their own rules, break everybody elses. There's no Congressional,or any, oversight, and the CIA/NSA know it.

So therefore you know they haven't changed anything? Makes sense

[johnsmith]

they're CIA/NSA, they makes their own rules, break everybody elses. There's no Congressional,or any, oversight, and the CIA/NSA know it.

So therefore you know they haven't changed anything? Makes sense

[TheSanityAnnex]

Of course you just wanted to make your snarky political statement and let it remain unchallenged; you told us.
And?

[ChumpDumper]

And?And what? I made a statement.

[TheSanityAnnex]

the CIA/NSA hasn't changed on bit because of Snowden.

Strong encryption was available to everybody, including terrorists, before Snowden.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=tracking+terrorist+after+snowden+lea ks

[TheSanityAnnex]

And what? I made a statement.
That's wonderful dear.

[ChumpDumper]

That's wonderful dear.You always get so pissy when you're called out.

It's adorable.

[johnsmith]

Vs a couple or armed explosive trained jihadists all civilians would. So would you and also so would the poster John Smith. Yall would shit your pants pik all other civilians.

Hey dummy...I haven't said anything about guns or what I would or wouldn't do....the only thing I've done is point out what an idiot you are for having your feelings hurt that someone else wants to discuss a political topic in the politics forum.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you that you wouldn't understand what I've been laughing AT you about though.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You always get so pissy when you're called out.

It's adorable.
Called out lol go put another gold star sticker on your monitor.

[cd98]

US/UK/BigOil invaded Iraq for oil and then to regime change also Syria and Iran, too. ISIS arose DIRECTLY from the Repug-destabilized Middle East.

You motherfuckers are hilariously gullible, stupid, ignorant.

You think the Syrian terrorists are in France b/c of Iraq? That's either moronic or an attempt to spin facts to fit trite and baseless theory. US didn't take any of the Iraqi oil. They gave it to the Iraqi government while it was stable. Once Obama pulled the troops and the government collapsed, it fell to ISIS.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lmao boutons got banned? :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Called out lol go put another gold star sticker on your monitor.Stay salty. Try the forum cop routine again.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Stay salty. Try the forum cop routine again.
Forum cop lol. I simply asked if you'd like to discuss it via PM and you chose not to. It's obvious to anyone here you'd like to discuss anything but the OP. Wear your sympathizer badge with honor, no need to hide it anymore.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You always get so pissy when you're called out.

It's adorable.

I see TSA's still too stupid to apply its own logic to itself. I certainly hope it doesn't think it merits special treatment.

[ChumpDumper]

Forum cop lol. I simply asked if you'd like to discuss it via PM and you chose not to.No, you tried to dictate that it would only be discussed via PM.
It's obvious to anyone here you'd like to discuss anything but the OP. Wear your sympathizer badge with honor, no need to hide it anymore.I answered all your questions regarding the OP, then you immediately stopped discussing the OP and just kept talking about how I don't talk about the OP.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I see TSA's still too stupid to apply its own logic to itself. I certainly hope it doesn't think it merits special treatment.
Why don't you share with the board your #terrorismhasnoreligion tweet

[DarrinS]

:lmao boutons got banned? :lmao

There will be much less traffic in this forum

[TheSanityAnnex]

No, you tried to dictate that it would only be discussed via PM. I answered all your questions regarding the OP, then you immediately stopped discussing the OP and just kept talking about how I don't talk about the OP.

You have literally made ONE post concerning the tragedy that happened yesterday and it was only because you were asked directly by me. Why are you afraid to discuss what happened? Why are you afraid to share your opinion?

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lmao boutons got banned? :lmao
Link to what got him banned?

[ChumpDumper]

You have literally made ONE post concerning the tragedy that happened yesterday and it was only because you were asked directly by me. Why are you afraid to discuss what happened? Why are you afraid to share your opinion?There you go again.

Why are you afraid to discuss it once I answered all your questions? All you've done since is derail the thread with your complaints.

Police yourself.

[TheSanityAnnex]

There you go again.

Why are you afraid to discuss it once I answered all your questions? All you've done since is derail the thread with your complaints.

Police yourself.
Cool then. From here on out we will both discuss only the OP, surely you have formed an opinion on the matter that you are willing to share. Looking forward to your contributions.

[ChumpDumper]

Cool then. From here on out we will both discuss only the OP, surely you have formed an opinion on the matter that you are willing to share. Looking forward to your contributions.I have already asked you direct questions you haven't answered.

[MultiTroll]

Regardless of which side of the gun control issue, Faux News had interview which brought out the relatively little security in concert hall made it much easier for the UnIslamic roaches to infiltrate. Brought out how in U.S. venues there would metal detectors, wayy more security people both armed and unarmed.

[DarrinS]

Regardless of which side of the gun control issue, Faux News had interview which brought out the relatively little security in concert hall made it much easier for the UnIslamic roaches to infiltrate. Brought out how in U.S. venues there would metal detectors, wayy more security people both armed and unarmed.


At that small of a theater?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I have already asked you direct questions you haven't answered.
Relating to the OP?

[ChumpDumper]

Relating to the OP?Yes. There is no need for you to play dumb. Just read the questions and answer them like you said you want to.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Regardless of which side of the gun control issue, Faux News had interview which brought out the relatively little security in concert hall made it much easier for the UnIslamic roaches to infiltrate. Brought out how in U.S. venues there would metal detectors, wayy more security people both armed and unarmed.
I can't believe one of the stupid fuckers thought he'd be able to walk into the soccer stadium undetected with a bomb attached to his body.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Yes.

Good for you making progress. What are your questions?

[ChumpDumper]

Good for you making progress. What are your questions?


Yes. There is no need for you to play dumb. Just read the questions and answer them like you said you want to.

If you are too obstinate to simply go back and read the post you have already alluded to, we can all safely conclude you were not serious about discussing the OP.

[TheSanityAnnex]

If you are too obstinate to simply go back and read the post you have already alluded to, we can all safely conclude you were not serious about discussing the OP.

I'm not going through 13 pages and your attempt to derail the thread again by questioning whether or not I'm taking the OP serious failed. What are your questions?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not going through 13 pages and your attempt to derail the thread again by questioning whether or not I'm taking the OP serious failed. What are your questions?I asked you simple questions about the refugees when you brought up the subject. Go back and find them and we can discuss.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I asked you simple questions about the refugees when you brought up the subject. Go back and find them and we can discuss.
What part of I'm not going back and looking are you having trouble grasping? What are your questions?

[ChumpDumper]

What part of I'm not going back and looking are you having trouble grasping? What are your questions?They're right there. No need to look through all those pages when the search terms have been spoon fed to you.

[MultiTroll]

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[baseline bum]

Link to what got him banned?

He got banned for being himself in the French Spurs Fans thread upstairs.