Democratic debate,,,

[HemisfairArena]

what a joke,,,Killary getting crushed by the questions. She says there are no radical islamists,,,,LMAO. Liberal stupidity at its finest. They don't want to close the borders. They want politics over innocent American lives,,,as long as they win, they don't care about collateral damage,,,

[TheGreatYacht]

Martin O'Malley is easily the best candidate from both parties.... Wouldn't mind either of the Dems or Rubio though

[DMX7]

She said there were "no radical islamist". Is that an actual quote or did you just make it up?

[HemisfairArena]

DMX7,,,actual quote,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

DMX7,,,actual quote,,,,
Link? Nothing I see from the fire-eating sites says that.

[HemisfairArena]

Link? Nothing I see from the fire-eating sites says that.

Watch the debate,,,,straight from the liar's mouth,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

Watch the debate,,,,straight from the liar's mouth,,,,I'm just going to wait for you to prove your claim.

I don't think you can.

[Th'Pusher]

Watch the debate,,,,straight from the liar's mouth,,,,

I'm watching the debate. No one said there are no radical Islamists. You're a liar.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm watching the debate. No one said there are no radical Islamists. You're a liar.He's going to pout all night now.

[Th'Pusher]

He's going to pout all night now.

Considering it's a laughable claim on its face, it was a pretty ridiculous proclamation.

[DarrinS]

Did they schedule it tonight so no one would watch?

[DarrinS]

She basically said the same thing as Rubio, but she attempted to make it sound as if Rubio said we were at war with Islam.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-ztYdtWQMI

[rmt]

LOL at Hillary's response to Wall Street donations - her reference to 9/11 and women donors. She can't defend the millions she gets from big corporations and worse, foreigners. Bernie (even if I think his solutions are crazy) seems to really care about the average American. Hillary is just the same old, same old establishment/big donor - looking out only for herself and those she's beholden to.

These people are crazy - they want to bring in 65000 people from Syria - how in the world are they going to vet them? This open border policy is TERRIBLE. They need to close the borders and assimilate everyone - you don't speak English - you don't get citizenship - become Americans.

[Nbadan]

PPP poll Nov 14 Who Won DEM Debate? Clinton 67%, Sanders 20%, O'M 7%

Nov 14, 2015


A Public Policy Polling survey of Democratic primary voters nationally who watched tonight’s debate finds that it reinforced Hillary Clinton’s front runner status. Viewers overwhelmingly think she won the debate, and particularly trust her over the rest of the Democratic field when it comes to issues of national security.

Key findings from the survey include:

-67% of voters think Clinton won the debate, to 20% for Bernie Sanders and 7% for Martin O’Malley. On a related note 63% of viewers said the debate gave them a more positive opinion of Clinton, compared to 41% who said it gave them a more positive opinion of Sanders, and 37% who said it gave them a more positive opinion of O’Malley.

-Clinton is by a wide margin the candidate debate watchers trust the most on national security issues. 75% say they have the most faith in Clinton on that front, compared to only 17% for Sanders, and 5% for O’Malley. National security issues were a primary focus tonight in the aftermath of yesterday’s tragedy in France, and Democratic voters by far and away trust Clinton the most on that issue.

-What’s particularly striking is how universal the sentiment that Clinton won the debate tonight is among all the different groups within the Democratic Party. 86% of African Americans, 73% of women, 70% of moderates, 69% of seniors, 67% of Hispanics, 65% of liberals, 61% of white voters, 58% of men, and 50% of younger voters all think that Clinton was the winner of tonight’s debate.

-Overall among those who watched the debate tonight, 67% say they plan to vote for Clinton in the primary to 25% for Sanders, and 4% for O’Malley.

Clinton came into tonight’s debate as the clear front runner for the Democrats and these numbers make it clear that the debate and particularly Clinton’s strength on national security issues just reinforced her front runner status....


http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/11/democratic-voters-overwhelmingly-think-clinton-won-debate-particularly-strong-on-national-security-i.html via Public Policy Polling

[rmt]

So Sanders still believes that climate change is the #1 threat to the US? That was funny when he said it at the first debate. It's even funnier now after the Paris terrorist attack.

[Othyus Lalanne]

LOL at Hillary's response to Wall Street donations - her reference to 9/11 and women donors. She can't defend the millions she gets from big corporations and worse, foreigners. Bernie (even if I think his solutions are crazy) seems to really care about the average American. Hillary is just the same old, same old establishment/big donor - looking out only for herself and those she's beholden to.

These people are crazy - they want to bring in 65000 people from Syria - how in the world are they going to vet them? This open border policy is TERRIBLE. They need to close the borders and assimilate everyone - you don't speak English - you don't get citizenship - become Americans.

Well, who started proxy wars in the ME?

[Othyus Lalanne]

So Sanders still believes that climate change is the #1 threat to the US? That was funny when he said it at the first debate. It's even funnier now after the Paris terrorist attack.

So, why is terrorism such a big threat?

[ElNono]

I had more important things to watch (Spurs)... I mean, we're still a year away... :lol

After watching the 1st debate by both parties, at this point is so predictable what the storylines are going to be. Just get the primaries over already.

[Wild Cobra]

I had more important things to watch (Spurs)... I mean, we're still a year away... :lol

After watching the 1st debate by both parties, at this point is so predictable what the storylines are going to be. Just get the primaries over already.

I agree with you.

I have better things to do than watch the candidates blow how air of people's skirts.

[baseline bum]

I had more important things to watch (Spurs)... I mean, we're still a year away... :lol

After watching the 1st debate by both parties, at this point is so predictable what the storylines are going to be. Just get the primaries over already.

The Republican side looks pretty unpredictable tbh. I thought it would be Bush but his campaign looks like it's on life support. And then Walker seemed like he had a great chance early, but so much for that. Who do you see getting their nomination? Trump? Rubio? Either way it's shaping up to be the worst presidential race since 2000, where you just wanted Bush's plane to crash into Gore's.

[ElNono]

The Republican side looks pretty unpredictable tbh. I thought it would be Bush but his campaign looks like it's on life support. And then Walker seemed like he had a great chance early, but so much for that. Who do you see getting their nomination? Trump? Rubio? Either way it's shaping up to be the worst presidential race since 2000, where you just wanted Bush's plane to crash into Gore's.

It depends if they want to win the general or not. But the storylines are all the same from pretty much all of them that have any shot: everything is bad, tax cuts, I'm the biggest warmonger, illegals, Barry and Hillary bad, etc.

How many times do you need to rehash that?

Agreed is shaping up to be a terrible election, tbh

[spurraider21]

hillary clinton when asked about wall street:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2g6UhLbb0

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm starting to wrap my head around a possible Trump / Clinton contest. Terrible for the country but could be hilarious to watch.

[rmt]

hillary clinton when asked about wall street:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2g6UhLbb0

So funny. Just like her response to what that twitter called her out on - what does wall street donations have to do with 9/11?

[TheGreatYacht]

What a joke by the DNC. Making the debate at the same time as Cowboys/Jets, Star Wars weekend, Christmas shopping weekend, a Saturday night

What the fuck are they doing? Are they trying to hide Hillary from the beating Bern is about to give her?

[boutons_deux]

Are they trying to hide Hillary from the beating Bern is about to give her?

Hillary needs no exposure, but her oppenents sure do. Burying debates on fucking Sat nights is a great way for Wasserman-Shultz to show her bias (lots Dem mucky mucks are pissed at her debate schedule, number of debates), keep Bernie unknown, and any Hillary gaffes from being seen (at least not on the air).

[TheGreatYacht]

Hillary needs no exposure, but her oppenents sure do. Burying debates on fucking Sat nights is a great way for Wasserman-Shultz to show her bias (lots Dem mucky mucks are pissed at her debate schedule, number of debates), keep Bernie unknown, and any Hillary gaffes from being seen (at least not on the air).
What a joke. First it's CNN removing polls with Bernie leading, then it's the lack of coverage the debates and Bernie get, and now it's the DNC allowing Shillary to steal data without punishment while they give Sanders the harshest penalty possible.

This is the worst string of candidates I've seen in history. Tbh even worse than 2000

[boutons_deux]

this is the last Dem Sat debate, but there is one on a Sunday night

[Reck]

Sander just had a senile moment. Awkward

[DMX7]

Hillary thinks we're all idiots. She says she has more donations for students and teachers than wall street people. Yeah, there are a shit load more students/teachers than people working on wall street... what a surprise.

[TheGreatYacht]

Really good debate, all came off looking good and all took a hot steamy shit on the repugs. Bernie low key called their supporters "special" tbh :lol

[boutons_deux]

Hillary Clinton just slimed Bernie Sanders with a discredited Rupert Murdoch attack on single-payer health care

Clinton's attack on Sanders' health plan gets its numbers from a Wall Street Journal story disowned by a key source

While debating Bernie Sanders last night in New Hampshire, Hillary Clinton made an egregiously dishonest claim.


During the candidates’ discussion on college education, Clinton stated that Senator Sanders’ proposals would cost trillions of dollars, saying,

“Free college, a single payer system for health, and it’s been estimated we’re looking at 18 to $20 trillion, about a 40 percent [dent] in the federal budget.” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/19/3rd-democratic-debate-transcript-annotated-who-said-what-and-what-it-meant/)

This is flat wrong.

The $18 trillion price tag comes from an article published in the Wall Street Journal (http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-proposals-18-trillion-1442271511). Authored by Laura Meckler, the piece attributes the vast majority— $15 trillion— of this exorbitant amount to Bernie Sanders’ plan to expand Medicare and guarantee care for all sick or injured Americans.

Meckler writes that, “… a similar proposal [to expand Medicaid] in Congress… would require $15 trillion in federal spending over 10 years on top of existing federal health spending, according to an analysis of the plan by Gerald Friedman, an economist at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst.”

Only problem?

Gerald Friedman himself disagrees.

He wrote a response article, published in The Huffington Post, entitled, “An Open Letter to the Wall Street Journal on Its Bernie Sanders Hit Piece (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gerald-friedman/the-wall-street-journal-k_b_8143062.html),” in which he clarified that, “…by spending these vast sums, we would, as a country, save nearly $5 trillion over ten years in reduced administrative waste, lower pharmaceutical and device prices, and by lowering the rate of medical inflation.

He continued:

“These financial savings would be felt by businesses and by state and local governments who would no longer be paying for health insurance for their employees; and by retirees and working Americans who would no longer have to pay for their health insurance or for co-payments and deductibles. Beyond these financial savings, HR 676 would also save thousands of lives a year by expanding access to health care for the uninsured and the underinsured.

“The economic benefits from Senator Sanders’ proposal would be even greater than these static estimates suggest because a single-payer plan would create dynamic gains by freeing American businesses to compete without the burden of an inefficient and wasteful health insurance system. As with Senator Sanders’ other proposals, the economic boom created by HR 676, including the productivity boost coming from a more efficient health care system and a healthier population, would raise economic output and provide billions of dollars in additional tax revenues to over-set some of the additional federal spending.”


Sanders’ health care plan would reduce waste, cut drug prices, slow inflation, save money, and create an economic boom, increasing economic output and tax revenue by billions of dollars— all while saving lives and increasing Americans’ standard of living.

There was absolutely no reason for the Journal to ever claim otherwise. In the cited research paper, Friedman clearly writes, (http://www.pnhp.org/sites/default/files/Funding%20HR%20676_Friedman_final_7.31.13.pdf) “Health care financing in the U.S. is regressive, weighing heaviest on the poor, the working class, and the sick. With the progressive financing plan outlined for HR 676 (below), 95% of all U.S. households would save money.”

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/20/hillary_clinton_just_slimed_bernie_sanders_with_a_ discredited_rupert_murdoch_attack_on_single_payer_ health_care/