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spursistan
11-18-2015, 10:11 AM
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spursistan
11-18-2015, 10:14 AM
Hopefully Scotty Brooks takes the helm :lol

BatManu20
11-18-2015, 10:14 AM
Was only a matter of time. Hopefully they don't bring a competent coach in.

Robz4000
11-18-2015, 10:16 AM
Fuck.

Xevious
11-18-2015, 10:18 AM
Houston fans rejoice, the rest of the West pissed. :lol

spursistan
11-18-2015, 10:21 AM
Was only a matter of time. Hopefully they don't bring a competent coach in.
yep..wouldn't mind Brooks/Mark jackson/D'antoni and co...just no Thibs..

BatManu20
11-18-2015, 10:22 AM
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BatManu20
11-18-2015, 10:23 AM
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benefactor
11-18-2015, 10:26 AM
:lol Morey
:lol "we wanted to lock him up before someone else gets him"
:lol shit canning him a year later

BatManu20
11-18-2015, 10:30 AM
There's jubilation in the streets


http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=270295

hater
11-18-2015, 10:32 AM
Hopefully Scotty Brooks takes the helm :lol

:lol

BatManu20
11-18-2015, 10:32 AM
I can't believe Byron Scott outlasted Kevin McHale :lol

100%duncan
11-18-2015, 10:34 AM
Mark jackson scott brooks

BatManu20
11-18-2015, 10:38 AM
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Koolaid_Man
11-18-2015, 10:40 AM
Won't make a difference...the Kardashian curse is real...despite Harden and Dwert being total retards

BatManu20
11-18-2015, 10:42 AM
Not a bad payday for 3 weeks work..

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Clipper Nation
11-18-2015, 10:48 AM
Doesn't matter who coaches the team when this guy is your #1 option:

"Among the 29 players who've attempted at least 15 shots per game, only Kobe Bryant is shooting worse than Rockets star James Harden, who's making 37.2% of his shots this season."

InRareForm
11-18-2015, 10:48 AM
Dhoward adds to the list of coaches he helped fire

Killakobe81
11-18-2015, 10:52 AM
Houston fans rejoice, the rest of the West pissed. :lol

Doesnt matter to me ...my team sucks! But I still rejoice anytime a Celtic is in misery. I will miss his pained expressions of confusion and/or defeat. Rox should see a quick upswing as the new coach steps in ... but I still think this team is fraudulent and should be quick fodder for Spurs or Dubs come playoff time. Everyone else? they have a punchers chance if they right the ship vs OKC and LAC ...

Killakobe81
11-18-2015, 10:52 AM
Dhoward adds to the list of coaches he helped fire

:lol

Killakobe81
11-18-2015, 10:53 AM
I can't believe Byron Scott outlasted Kevin McHale :lol

Different set of expectations ... sad to say.

Killakobe81
11-18-2015, 10:54 AM
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:lol

Dverde
11-18-2015, 11:02 AM
They are going to get Preacher Mark Jackson.

Dancelot
11-18-2015, 11:11 AM
Won't make a difference...the Kardashian curse is real...despite Harden and Dwert being total retards
:lol

Blake
11-18-2015, 11:26 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gvQwmKYTtVI/Tba8XZaJrII/AAAAAAAAEAA/KxXtoM9NPf8/s1600/babality_by_vlsn-d36f3i5.jpg

You have the weirdest posts

Blake
11-18-2015, 11:27 AM
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Yeah that's pretty crazy.

Mori Chu
11-18-2015, 11:34 AM
Bush league move for a bush league franchise.

hitmanyr2k
11-18-2015, 11:50 AM
I hope Mark Jackson is the replacement. The sooner he's off the broadcasting mic the better.

Spurs9
11-18-2015, 11:56 AM
Not a bad payday for 3 weeks work..

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:lol

Robz4000
11-18-2015, 11:57 AM
I hope Mark Jackson is the replacement. The sooner he's off the broadcasting mic the better.

As much as I'd like to see that, I think it'd be funnier if Scotty Brooks took over. Then again, Bible Thumper with Bible Kemp could be a pretty great shitshow. Wasn't Jackson a pedo too?

lefty
11-18-2015, 11:57 AM
I hope Mark Jackson is the replacement. The sooner he's off the broadcasting mic the better.
meh

He will be mic'd up during games

"believe in God and in each other! make stops! share the ball!"

Yeah just pick your poison

hitmanyr2k
11-18-2015, 12:02 PM
meh

He will be mic'd up during games

"believe in God and in each other! make stops! share the ball!"

Yeah just pick your poison

Being mic'd up you'd only hear him for maybe a 30 second stretch during the game instead of the whole game. If he was mic'd up as coach and he said "Mama there goes that man" I'd probably lose it.

JamStone
11-18-2015, 12:07 PM
Where is Tom Thibodeau? What's he doing?

If he's available and looking to return to the NBA, I would assume he'd be on the short list of candidates.

Splits
11-18-2015, 12:12 PM
From Woj's column, sounds like they're giving Bickerstaff Jr. a shot at earning the job.

Robz4000
11-18-2015, 12:16 PM
Is he any good Rocketfan?

SpursforSix
11-18-2015, 12:19 PM
is he available to run the point guard position?

Chris
11-18-2015, 12:33 PM
Is that the same Bernie Bickerstaff that took over for the Lakers when Pringles got sacked?

whitemamba
11-18-2015, 12:43 PM
if thibbs comes, west should be concerned.

SPM
11-18-2015, 12:45 PM
Wont make any difference. Now we wait for Dfag2oo8 to come in here and say how much this will reshape the team and get them to the Finals.

Killakobe81
11-18-2015, 12:53 PM
Where is Tom Thibodeau? What's he doing?

If he's available and looking to return to the NBA, I would assume he'd be on the short list of candidates.

As former assistant there under JVG I would assume he would be a top choice. Doesnt seem like a anlytics guy though ...

lefty
11-18-2015, 12:56 PM
If he was mic'd up as coach and he said "Mama there goes that man" I'd probably lose it.
:lmao

gambit1990
11-18-2015, 01:05 PM
i just remember bickerstaff never getting anywhere with charlotte. but they're charlotte so...

gambit1990
11-18-2015, 01:06 PM
i hope they get mark jackson so i don't have to hear him call spurs games. or any games for that matter.

baseline bum
11-18-2015, 01:08 PM
God damnit, it was always reassuring every year thinking they're going nowhere with McHale.

jeebus
11-18-2015, 01:12 PM
Scotty Brooks or Thibs would be perfect. Brooks because he's a retard when it comes to coaching and Thibs because he would run Harden into the ground until his ACL explodes or sit in him in the 4th if he doesn't play defense.

djohn2oo8
11-18-2015, 01:16 PM
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Splits
11-18-2015, 01:22 PM
Is that the same Bernie Bickerstaff that took over for the Lakers when Pringles got sacked?

His son.

Mikeanaro
11-18-2015, 01:44 PM
But the starters said 3 weeks ago he was going to be Coach Of The Year.

hitmanyr2k
11-18-2015, 02:30 PM
Scotty Brooks or Thibs would be perfect. Brooks because he's a retard when it comes to coaching and Thibs because he would run Harden into the ground until his ACL explodes or sit in him in the 4th if he doesn't play defense.

Probably true on both accounts :lol If Thibs can't get Harden to play consistent defense no one can.

HarlemHeat37
11-18-2015, 02:39 PM
Thibs would be pretty shocking, tbh..Dwight has already had issues with a hard-ass coach, and I can't imagine Harden buying into his philosophy of consistently giving 100%..

Also, Morey seems like he wants a puppet coach, which Thibodeau wouldn't accept..

Scott Brooks seems perfect for them:lol..

td4mvp2k
11-18-2015, 02:45 PM
Where is Tom Thibodeau? What's he doing?

If he's available and looking to return to the NBA, I would assume he'd be on the short list of candidates.spurfan hopes not

RsxPiimp
11-18-2015, 02:45 PM
Morey is officially in the HOT seat
cyberx

:lmao

RsxPiimp
11-18-2015, 02:48 PM
Rockets owner about to go HAM...

RsxPiimp
11-18-2015, 02:49 PM
Scott Brooks seems perfect for them:lol..

Brooks is not interested in coaching the Rockets right now, He is keeping his eyes open for other jobs this summer.

-CyberX

Mitch
11-18-2015, 02:52 PM
Back when days were innocent and hopeful for the Rockets...

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/954/424/DwightSings_original.gif?1373068787

Sean Cagney
11-18-2015, 03:10 PM
Was only a matter of time. Hopefully they don't bring a competent coach in.

Oh good lord I agree with you 100%, that would suck. Give someone like Pop that team and they are title contenders. I hope they don't get Thibbs.

djohn2oo8
11-18-2015, 03:21 PM
Brooks is not interested in coaching the Rockets right now, He is keeping his eyes open for other jobs this summer.

-CyberX

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=270329

Great news

djohn2oo8
11-18-2015, 03:21 PM
Brooks is not interested in coaching the Rockets right now, He is keeping his eyes open for other jobs this summer.

-CyberX

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=270329

Great news

djohn2oo8
11-18-2015, 03:26 PM
My Nigga Les going HAM. You listening Harden?

Per Berman
Leslie Alexander: "Some guys obviously aren't playing hard enough.If they don't respond & play hard they're not going to stay here" #Rockets

RsxPiimp
11-18-2015, 03:30 PM
My Nigga Les going HAM. You listening Harden?

Per Berman
Leslie Alexander: "Some guys obviously aren't playing hard enough.If they don't respond & play hard they're not going to stay here" #Rockets


this obviously excludes harden tbh.

Killakobe81
11-18-2015, 03:48 PM
My Nigga Les going HAM. You listening Harden?

Per Berman
Leslie Alexander: "Some guys obviously aren't playing hard enough.If they don't respond & play hard they're not going to stay here" #Rockets

Seems an empty threat. Unless he is talking defensively Harden plays hard ...problem is he also parties hard too ...

Robz4000
11-18-2015, 03:48 PM
Sounds like Mark Jackson could help with that...

Clipper Nation
11-18-2015, 03:50 PM
My Nigga Les going HAM. You listening Harden?

Per Berman
Leslie Alexander: "Some guys obviously aren't playing hard enough.If they don't respond & play hard they're not going to stay here" #Rockets

Translation: "If this keeps up, we're going to have to find more scapegoats for those mental faggots Dwert and Harden."

Clipper Nation
11-18-2015, 03:52 PM
if thibbs comes, west should be concerned.

Why? Thibs is overrated, he's Doc 2.0. Dude choked every year in the weak East and has won nothing without that stacked 2008 Celtics roster. He would be exposed in the West just like Doc has been.

whitemamba
11-18-2015, 03:57 PM
Why? Thibs is overrated, he's Doc 2.0. Dude choked every year in the weak East and has won nothing without that stacked 2008 Celtics roster. He would be exposed in the West just like Doc has been.

CN your a stat guy right? Werent the rockets one of the highest scoring offenses last year? I think they were #6 at like 105 or something a game. If they can figure out how to defend, its a good lookin combo. Rockets are pretty deep and w/ Dwight ariza and Beverly, they are primetime defensive players, cept dwert who has lost a step it seems.

RsxPiimp
11-18-2015, 04:02 PM
Les said he'll stick with interim coach JB Bickerstaff for the rest of the year. Makes sense considering they just gave McHale a golden parachute worth $12 mil :lol

RsxPiimp
11-18-2015, 04:02 PM
djohn2oo8, see ya at the lottery boy :lol

Blake
11-18-2015, 04:03 PM
you can't handle the meta

Nope, still weird.

Chris
11-18-2015, 04:07 PM
Dwight the coach killer. Surprisingly lasted 8 years in Orlando but ultimately got SVG shitcanned. Goes to the Lakers and gets Mike Brown shitcanned and Pringles to resign. Now Mchale gets the axe. The never ending Dwightmare continues...

Killakobe81
11-18-2015, 04:24 PM
Translation: "If this keeps up, we're going to have to find more scapegoats for those mental faggots Dwert and Harden."

CN with the heat rocks ...

Killakobe81
11-18-2015, 04:25 PM
Why? Thibs is overrated, he's Doc 2.0. Dude choked every year in the weak East and has won nothing without that stacked 2008 Celtics roster. He would be exposed in the West just like Doc has been.

More fiya!

Mitch
11-18-2015, 04:26 PM
:lol

Harden is untouchable, he's the goose that lays copper eggs.

Killakobe81
11-18-2015, 04:26 PM
Dwight the coach killer. Surprisingly lasted 8 years in Orlando but ultimately got SVG shitcanned. Goes to the Lakers and gets Mike Brown shitcanned and Pringles to resign. Now Mchale gets the axe. The never ending Dwightmare continues...

I used to think Shaq was being jealous and petty (well I am sure he still was) but starting to see some merit in Shaq's criticisms of Howard.

DMC
11-18-2015, 04:33 PM
They are going to get Preacher Mark Jackson.
Then 2 years later Steve Kerr will take them to a championship.

Splits
11-18-2015, 04:41 PM
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Kawhitstorm
11-18-2015, 04:43 PM
My Nigga Les going HAM. You listening Harden?

Per Berman
Leslie Alexander: "Some guys obviously aren't playing hard enough.If they don't respond & play hard they're not going to stay here" #Rockets

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Chris
11-18-2015, 04:46 PM
I used to think Shaq was being jealous and petty (well I am sure he still was) but starting to see some merit in Shaq's criticisms of Howard.

Shaq was right; Dwight's a major diva and a team cancer.

TDfan2007
11-18-2015, 04:57 PM
My Nigga Les going HAM. You listening Harden?

Per Berman
Leslie Alexander: "Some guys obviously aren't playing hard enough.If they don't respond & play hard they're not going to stay here" #Rockets


:lol if you think that's directed at Harden in any way...

The guy has given shit effort on D for the better part of the last 2 1/2 years. Not gonna change any time soon.

TDfan2007
11-18-2015, 05:00 PM
Seems an empty threat. Unless he is talking defensively Harden plays hard ...problem is he also parties hard too ...

Harden doesn't play hard at all. His game is as lazy as it gets. Moves for the sole purpose of drawing cheap fouls and stopping the flow of the game, lazy stepback jumpers, and not to mention the almost nonexistent defensive effort.

I honestly can't believe I'm saying this, but watching Harden's bitch ass and Wade's fat cat attitude makes me long for the days of prime Kobe and AI. The SG position is absolutely pathetic in today's NBA.

TDfan2007
11-18-2015, 05:03 PM
I used to think Shaq was being jealous and petty (well I am sure he still was) but starting to see some merit in Shaq's criticisms of Howard.

Shaq is still an insecure child, but he's usually right when he comments on big men. To this day if Dwight had a solid righty hook and ran the floor with purpose to seal his man, he'd average 20+ ppg easily. He's just too stupid and/or lazy to do it, which has been Shaq's gripe with him since day 1.

baseline bum
11-18-2015, 05:08 PM
Why? Thibs is overrated, he's Doc 2.0. Dude choked every year in the weak East and has won nothing without that stacked 2008 Celtics roster. He would be exposed in the West just like Doc has been.

His best player went from being 2015 Westbrook to being 2016 Parker, what was he supposed to win other than in 2011 when the Bulls got smashed by Prime LeBron, Prime Wade, and Prime Bosh?

Clipper Nation
11-18-2015, 05:12 PM
CN your a stat guy right? Werent the rockets one of the highest scoring offenses last year? I think they were #6 at like 105 or something a game. If they can figure out how to defend, its a good lookin combo. Rockets are pretty deep and w/ Dwight ariza and Beverly, they are primetime defensive players, cept dwert who has lost a step it seems.

They were 6th in points per game, but that's pretty deceptive, since they run a gimmicky offense that works in the regular season but gets exposed against good playoff defenses (just look at what the Warriors did to them last year). They were actually improving on defense last year because Harden was actually trying on that end of the court, in the regular season at least.

Thing is, though, Thibs doesn't have a clue on how to coach an offense. He might be able to get the defense back to where it was, but he can't fix Harden's iso-flop-ball, Dwert's lack of a post game, or all the chucking they do. Morey probably won't even let any coach fix it, anyway. So their ceiling would still be getting bounced in the WCF by a team like the Warriors or Spurs that plays defense and doesn't choke in the playoffs very often.

Killakobe81
11-18-2015, 05:39 PM
Shaq is still an insecure child, but he's usually right when he comments on big men. To this day if Dwight had a solid righty hook and ran the floor with purpose to seal his man, he'd average 20+ ppg easily. He's just too stupid and/or lazy to do it, which has been Shaq's gripe with him since day 1.

I agree with this but my point was that the reason he killed Dwight for it was because he was pissed that Dwight"bit his shit". Of course it was true. Still is.
Shaq was the Jay-z or NAs admonishing some young NeW york wannabe MC for biting his style or flow. He could have mentored Dwight but chose to engage an inferior player with inferior intellect in a beef and it made shaq seem petty. (Kenny and Chuck loved to use this to troll shaq btw, Ernie too)

In contrast, LeBron took the high road with Dat Lincoln nicca stevenson. Saying going at Deshawn would be like hova taking shots at Soulja Boy. UInfortunately Lincoln struck back by helping Dirk and LDN Tyson beat James in miami.

Splits
11-18-2015, 05:52 PM
Looks like Bickerstaff Jr. has the job for the rest of the season: http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-rockets/post/_/id/1447/a-rockets-qa-with-leslie-alexander


Can J.B. win this job?
Alexander: Of course he can. If the team responds to him and we win, of course he can.

He’s here until the end of the season, and then you’re going to re-evaluate him. That correct?
Alexander: 100 percent.

djohn2oo8
11-18-2015, 05:54 PM
They were 6th in points per game, but that's pretty deceptive, since they run a gimmicky offense that works in the regular season but gets exposed against good playoff defenses (just look at what the Warriors did to them last year). They were actually improving on defense last year because Harden was actually trying on that end of the court, in the regular season at least.

Thing is, though, Thibs doesn't have a clue on how to coach an offense. He might be able to get the defense back to where it was, but he can't fix Harden's iso-flop-ball, Dwert's lack of a post game, or all the chucking they do. Morey probably won't even let any coach fix it, anyway. So their ceiling would still be getting bounced in the WCF by a team like the Warriors or Spurs that plays defense and doesn't choke in the playoffs very often.

Morey has no choice but to let the new coach do his thing. He is next to be fired.

whitemamba
11-18-2015, 05:57 PM
They were 6th in points per game, but that's pretty deceptive, since they run a gimmicky offense that works in the regular season but gets exposed against good playoff defenses (just look at what the Warriors did to them last year). They were actually improving on defense last year because Harden was actually trying on that end of the court, in the regular season at least.

Thing is, though, Thibs doesn't have a clue on how to coach an offense. He might be able to get the defense back to where it was, but he can't fix Harden's iso-flop-ball, Dwert's lack of a post game, or all the chucking they do. Morey probably won't even let any coach fix it, anyway. So their ceiling would still be getting bounced in the WCF by a team like the Warriors or Spurs that plays defense and doesn't choke in the playoffs very often.
i mean I agree with you, but when harden is clicking on all cylinders , and the team is running they look good. As for a half court set, I agree they don't seem to have or have had an offense at all minus harden iso orb PnR. I just think they have good enough players to win if they learn how to play defense.

JohnnyMax
11-18-2015, 06:01 PM
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djohn2oo8
11-18-2015, 07:50 PM
Dhoward adds to the list of coaches he helped fire
Dwight was actually one of the few playing with effort each game.

djohn2oo8
11-18-2015, 07:52 PM
Is he any good Rocketfan?
He seems alright. I guess we will see.

djohn2oo8
11-18-2015, 07:55 PM
Seems an empty threat. Unless he is talking defensively Harden plays hard ...problem is he also parties hard too ...
He has played with absolutely no effort this season. Im guessing a lot of it was to get Kevin fired. The other part is he put in absolutely no work in during the off season, unlike last year when he played for Coach K and with Thibs for Team USA., and came into the season in shape.

dbreiden83080
11-18-2015, 07:57 PM
It's McHale's fault that Dwight Howard sucks?

djohn2oo8
11-18-2015, 07:58 PM
It's McHale's fault that Dwight Howard sucks?
Dwight has not been the problem.

angrydude
11-18-2015, 08:00 PM
Of course they're saying Bickerstaff is going to stay. That doesn't mean it's true. They aren't going to throw him under the bus before he even gets a chance.

dbreiden83080
11-18-2015, 08:01 PM
Dwight has not been the problem.

He's always the problem..

weeks
11-18-2015, 10:29 PM
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smh he even flops off the court

djohn2oo8
11-18-2015, 10:53 PM
JB Bickerstaff had them playing actual defense.

Ditty
11-19-2015, 12:54 AM
Not a bad move to give Bickerstaff a shot, hopefully he isn't as bad of a coach like his dad but he is the coach for the Rockets so I hope he is worse :p:. They'll eventually probably get some mediocre to bad former player coach like Terry Porter or Vinny Del Negro, even Marc Jackson who is Kevin McHale 2.0 imo this offseason. Thibodeau should be nothing more than a top lead assistant if you want to compete.

100%duncan
11-19-2015, 01:56 AM
Translation: "If this keeps up, we're going to have to find more scapegoats for those mental faggots Dwert and Harden."

This :lol

Indazone
11-19-2015, 01:10 PM
Glad to see McHale go. Rockets fans do indeed rejoice and Morey is essentially now in the hot seat. Maybe now they will play some defense and Ty Lawson won't be wasted in this lacksadaisical offense.

Indazone
11-19-2015, 01:14 PM
Well now there's a coaching opening at the Rockets. For the remainder of the season, wouldn't hurt to bring Thibs in as assistant on the defensive end.

Next season, I wouldn't mind seeing D'Antoni on the Rockets.

djohn2oo8
11-19-2015, 01:29 PM
Well now there's a coaching opening at the Rockets. For the remainder of the season, wouldn't hurt to bring Thibs in as assistant on the defensive end.

Next season, I wouldn't mind seeing D'Antoni on the Rockets.

Motherfuck hell no to both of those. Let Bickerstaff coach and see what he has

DAF86
11-21-2015, 12:22 AM
Luke Walton. Just to see what the Warriors do.

Chris
11-21-2015, 12:51 AM
smh he even flops off the court

he's bitchmade.. Artest checked that nig tho :lol

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spursistan
11-26-2015, 12:10 AM
if you come to think about it, Mchale comes out of this in pretty good shape :lol.

Dex
11-26-2015, 01:49 AM
if you come to think about it, Mchale comes out of this in pretty good shape :lol.

No kidding. He gets to hang out at home with his millions while the Rockets continue to plunge into the shitter under Harden and Howard.

:lmao 5-10 :lmao

Bulaien999
11-26-2015, 02:11 AM
The Jet made some statement tonight about not being the same team as last year which leads me to believe that its become a toxic environment....

spursistan
02-06-2016, 08:09 PM
Bump..

This has actually turned into a fuckin' coup for Mchale :lol The Rockets could conceivably miss the playoffs and he is going to tout WFC appearance while negotiating his next deal..

djohn2oo8
02-06-2016, 11:11 PM
Organizational problem. This is what happens when you coddle players. How you perform in games reflects how you practice. It seems that they don't do shit in practice. And that is absolutely on Morey with his coaches don't matter bullshit. He should be the next one to go. Alexander needs to nut up and get rid of Harden and Howard and finally tank. You need to construct a team through the draft. Your coaches are scared of yelling at Harden and Howard because they want to keep their jobs. Absolute fucking joke. Yet Morey will go star chasing yet again.

djohn2oo8
02-06-2016, 11:12 PM
Bump..

This has actually turned into a fuckin' coup for Mchale :lol The Rockets could conceivably miss the playoffs and he is going to tout WFC appearance while negotiating his next deal..
Do you realize he wasn't a good coach? And JB fucking Bickerstaff has a better record with this shit ass team? :lol