Great To See Parker

[AFMadison]

Playing this way. Spurs had the highest scoring first half of the year. Tony led in points and assists while shooting at a high percentage. I think the Spurs are unstoppable with Tony playing this way. Let's hope he can keep it up. Defense was not great tonight against a not so good offense but that can be improved. I figured this should be created due to all the Tony hate.

If Parker can continue to take the defensive focus away from all this weapons we have this team can be unstoppable, especially with him dishing the ball like this and shooting at a high percentage. (Also to mention, Tony did not lead in FG attempts).

[TXstbobcat]

Nice game for Tony. 25 pts 9 assists

[BatManu20]

Beat game of the season by far tonight. Looked great out there. Should've had a double-double if we would've knocked down one more jumper.

[spurraider21]

the high FG% isn't surprising at all. he's been shooting 53.3% so far this year (before today's game), and even last year which was a pretty terrible year for parker, he shot 49%

[Hoops Czar]

The defense held Denver to 39% from the field and just 33% from three. Except for a few hiccups and second chance opportunities, the defense was pretty solid.

[SpurPadre]

He's got plenty left in the tank.

[Ice009]

Very good game from TP tonight. If he can get back to his old self and then learn to balance it out with his new role, this team can be insanely good.

[bic50]

:tu Parker looking good. More excited now about this team now.

[AFMadison]

The defense held Denver to 39% from the field and just 33% from three. Except for a few hiccups and second chance opportunities, the defense was pretty solid.

I was comparing our first half to Denver's first half. Can't give up 34 in the second like that, but I guess it's ok considering we dropped 34. Overall though pretty solid, and we kept them under 100.

[apalisoc_9]

Parker is terrible. These, please give me shots were playing against bad team anyway is just charity to feed his pos ego. Hope he slips in the shower.

[AFMadison]

Parker is terrible. These, please give me shots were playing against bad team anyway is just charity to feed his pos ego. Hope he slips in the shower.

You need some toast for all that jelly?

[Sean Cagney]

I hope he can keep up near this pace, if we get 75% of this Tony the rest of the year I would be very happy. If he is on it helps the Spurs go to that other level, need him to be somewhat the Parker of old if they are to win a title this year.

[FkLA]

First great game of the season. Hopefully he doesn't get a big head and thinks he can do this against good teams. I also don't like how LMA has become an afterthought these last two games.

[steeledl]

Parker is terrible. These, please give me shots were playing against bad team anyway is just charity to feed his pos ego. Hope he slips in the shower.


Might wanna get your sodium levels checked.

[Sigz]

Porker blows.

[Mr. Body]

Denver has one of the shittiest PG corps in the league. But yes, he looks good so far.

[YGWHI]

Very good game from TP tonight. If he can get back to his old self and then learn to balance it out with his new role, this team can be insanely good.

Good point. I'm so glad he's confident again. But I disagree with other guys here saying "we need this Tony"...Not really, the Spurs don't need Parker trying to/scoring 25 points per game...they don't need LMA and Kawhi become into mere spectators of Parker show.

[EVAY]

Good point. I'm so glad he's confident again. But I disagree with other guys here saying "we need this Tony"...Not really, the Spurs don't need Parker trying to/scoring 25 points per game...they don't need LMA and Kawhi become into mere spectators of Parker show.

Leonard - 8 of 16 attempts

Aldridge - 4 of 14 attempts

Parker - 9 of 14 attempts

Mills - 7 of 15 attempts


Doesn't look like either Leonard or Aldridge were "mere spectators" of the Parker show since each shot as often or more than Parker did, as did Mills. Tonight, Parker's percentage was higher than anyone else's...but Leonard and Mills both took more shots and Aldridge took the same number.

[apalisoc_9]

Leonard shutdown Gallo tonight. He had a lot on his plate..Tony has a lot on his plate too, but its mostly during dinner and lunch time tbh

[Mnky]

Leonard - 8 of 16 attempts

Aldridge - 4 of 14 attempts

Parker - 9 of 14 attempts

Mills - 7 of 15 attempts


Doesn't look like either Leonard or Aldridge were "mere spectators" of the Parker show since each shot as often or more than Parker did, as did Mills. Tonight, Parker's percentage was higher than anyone else's...but Leonard and Mills both took more shots and Aldridge took the same number.
:lol :toast
These guys dont actually know what they're talking about. They're just trying to get attention..

[spurraider21]

Leonard - 8 of 16 attempts

Aldridge - 4 of 14 attempts

Parker - 9 of 14 attempts

Mills - 7 of 15 attempts


Doesn't look like either Leonard or Aldridge were "mere spectators" of the Parker show since each shot as often or more than Parker did, as did Mills. Tonight, Parker's percentage was higher than anyone else's...but Leonard and Mills both took more shots and Aldridge took the same number.
aldridge took as many shots as parker did but made 4... and TP assisted 2 of those

[FkLA]

Leonard - 8 of 16 attempts

Aldridge - 4 of 14 attempts

Parker - 9 of 14 attempts

Mills - 7 of 15 attempts


Doesn't look like either Leonard or Aldridge were "mere spectators" of the Parker show since each shot as often or more than Parker did, as did Mills. Tonight, Parker's percentage was higher than anyone else's...but Leonard and Mills both took more shots and Aldridge took the same number.

lol here we go with the FGA argument again

How many of those FGAs for LMA and Kawhi were spot ups/putbacks/transition baskets? The halfcourt offense today revolved mostly around Rique. He played well but I agree with YGWHI, I don't want that shit to become the norm.

[YGWHI]

Leonard - 8 of 16 attempts

Aldridge - 4 of 14 attempts

Parker - 9 of 14 attempts

Mills - 7 of 15 attempts


Doesn't look like either Leonard or Aldridge were "mere spectators" of the Parker show since each shot as often or more than Parker did, as did Mills. Tonight, Parker's percentage was higher than anyone else's...but Leonard and Mills both took more shots and Aldridge took the same number.

I'm not talking about this game, the point is on his performances through the season...The Spurs need him to play his new role, not taking almost /the same shots than LMA or Kawhi.

And sometimes it's not even about the numbers of shots, it's about the spots. When Parker dominates the ball a lot, Kawhi is parking behind the 3 point line and LMA doesn't receive the ball in the post or after pick and pop's.

[ducks]

Parker is terrible. These, please give me shots were playing against bad team anyway is just charity to feed his pos ego. Hope he slips in the shower.

Tp had more points then Leonard and less shots

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Leonard shutdown Gallo tonight. He had a lot on his plate..Tony has a lot on his plate too, but its mostly during dinner and lunch time tbh


Great post. You should start a thread on how Kawhi has to work on offense and defense while Parker gets to guard scrub PGs.

[ducks]

lol here we go with the FGA argument again

How many of those FGAs for LMA and Kawhi were spot ups/putbacks/transition baskets? The halfcourt offense today revolved mostly around Rique. He played well but I agree with YGWHI, I don't want that shit to become the norm.
Many games tp does not come close to same shots he was feeling it and getting to the lane tonight
Shooting that well it would be wise to keep shooting
He was on fire

[apalisoc_9]

lol here we go with the FGA argument again

How many of those FGAs for LMA and Kawhi were spot ups/putbacks/transition baskets? The halfcourt offense today revolved mostly around Rique. He played well but I agree with YGWHI, I don't want that shit to become the norm.

Lol this. Parker is the definition of system player.

[apalisoc_9]

Many games tp does not come close to same shots he was feeling it and getting to the lane tonight
Shooting that well it would be wise to keep shooting
He was on fire

So when kawhi gets hot and that pos freezes him its ok..

The hot hand approach only works when parker is the one with the hand.

[Kawhitstorm]

It was good to see him being decisive & taking advantage of a rookie instead of over dribbling or being hesitant.

[ducks]

No patty got hot Spurs kepted going to him

[YGWHI]

How many of those FGAs for LMA and Kawhi were spot ups/putbacks/transition baskets?
I couldn't have said it better.

[100%duncan]

Happy for TP looks like he knows his role so far this season. Hope this doesnt get to his head and starts thinking hes still a superstar. But a 10-13 ppg 6apg for tp is gonna be very good for the team

[Hoops Czar]

Leonard shutdown Gallo tonight. He had a lot on his plate..Tony has a lot on his plate too, but its mostly during dinner and lunch time tbh

Inb4 CN and dabom ":lmao"


Lol this. Parker is the definition of system player.

The players make up the system so I'm not sure where you're going with this. In other words, he's doing exactly what he's suppose to be doing. Good for him for not thinking he's bigger than the team.

[SAGirl]

Playing this way. Spurs had the highest scoring first half of the year. Tony led in points and assists while shooting at a high percentage. I think the Spurs are unstoppable with Tony playing this way. Let's hope he can keep it up. Defense was not great tonight against a not so good offense but that can be improved. I figured this should be created due to all the Tony hate.

If Parker can continue to take the defensive focus away from all this weapons we have this team can be unstoppable, especially with him dishing the ball like this and shooting at a high percentage. (Also to mention, Tony did not lead in FG attempts).
Agree. Great game from Tony. When he's playing well, he's a difference maker for sure.

Also, last game, he played excellent defense on Lillard.

[SAGirl]

It was good to see him being decisive & taking advantage of a rookie instead of over dribbling or being hesitant.
That is a good point. I think the most important point is to be decisive, and either go yourself and pass, no dribble/dribble, if you don't have anything and specially if you don't have it going on, move the ball. The defensive effort last game against Lillard was also noteworthy.

[Robz4000]

The defense held Denver to 39% from the field and just 33% from three. Except for a few hiccups and second chance opportunities, the defense was pretty solid.

Damn, Hoops Czar with the rare praise

[YGWHI]

:lol :toast
These guys dont actually know what they're talking about. They're just trying to get attention..
These guys...? I'm part of what? He replied me, and for the number of my posts and threads (1), you can't say I'm an attention seeker.

[AFMadison]

Leonard - 8 of 16 attempts

Aldridge - 4 of 14 attempts

Parker - 9 of 14 attempts

Mills - 7 of 15 attempts


Doesn't look like either Leonard or Aldridge were "mere spectators" of the Parker show since each shot as often or more than Parker did, as did Mills. Tonight, Parker's percentage was higher than anyone else's...but Leonard and Mills both took more shots and Aldridge took the same number.

Thank you

[AFMadison]

It was good to see him being decisive & taking advantage of a rookie instead of over dribbling or being hesitant.

[spurraider21]

lol here we go with the FGA argument again

How many of those FGAs for LMA and Kawhi were spot ups/putbacks/transition baskets? The halfcourt offense today revolved mostly around Rique. He played well but I agree with YGWHI, I don't want that shit to become the norm.
i don't know, you tell me. parker had 9 assists, he was doing his fair share of passing. if you're going to claim he wasn't getting others involved, onus is on you to prove it.

[YGWHI]

parker had 9 assists, he was doing his fair share of passing.

LMA needs some volumen of shots to be effective, Kawhi isn't a three point spot up shooter, nor just a fast-break dunker....Parker should to play to our best offensive players' strenghts instead of Kawhi's parking behind the arc and LMA getting boring in the post.

It's nice to see a game like this from Parker to keep the defense honest but if he's playing his new role he can't take the same shots than LMA.

[spurraider21]

LMA needs some volumen of shots to be effective, Kawhi isn't a three point spot up shooter, nor just a fast-break dunker....Parker should to play to our best two offensive players' strenghts instead of Kawhi's parking behind the arc and LMA getting boring in the post.

It's nice to see a game like this from Parker to keep the defense honest but if he's playing his new role he can't take the same shots than LMA.

After 10 Games FGA per game:

17 Kawhi
13 Aldridge
9.1 GNob
9.0 Porker
8 Duncan
8 Green
6.8 Patty
5 Diaw
4.3 West
3.1 Butler
2.7 Anderson
1.8 Boban
1.3 Macullum
0 Matty BonBon
not to mention that most observers will agree that LMA has been passing up/hesitating to take a lot of open jump shots

[YGWHI]

not to mention that most observers will agree that LMA has been passing up/hesitating to take a lot of open jump shots
And again...I didn't say he was shooting more than LMA in the first games, I said he can't shot more than him through the season.

[spurraider21]

And again...I didn't say he was shooting more than LMA in the first games, I said he can't shot more than him through the season.
and he won't. so everybody will be happy. glad we got that across

[YGWHI]

and he won't

We'll see...For the Spurs' sake, hopefully LMA and Kawhi get the ball very often in their favorite spots on the floor.

[daslicer]

Good to see Parker playing well the last few games. I think he has even won over his detractors considering before his detractors were saying he was the worst pg in the league. Now they are saying he only plays well against scrub PG's. I think that's an overall improvement from where we were a month ago.

[ChumpDumper]

Good to see the Parker haters shitting all over themselves.

[Fireball]

Good to see the Parker haters shitting all over themselves.

[SpursIndonesia]

Good to see the Parker haters shitting all over themselves.

:toast :toast :tu

[will_spurs]

Good to see the Parker haters shitting all over themselves.

As Parker said during the postgame, he had the favorable match-up. Won't happen every time, but nice to see he can still take full advantage of it if he wants to.

[weeks]

So when kawhi gets hot and that pos freezes him its ok..

you don't watch the games obviously

[TrainOfThought5]

You need some toast for all that jelly?

:lol

[buttsR4rebounding]

aldridge took as many shots as parker did but made 4... and TP assisted 2 of those

Parker assisted on Aldridge's first 2 baskets in the first 2 minutes of the game. Both 20 foot jumpers. Then Denver changed their defense to contest LAs jumpers and it opened it up for Parker. Something Tim couldn't make them do last year. Exactly what some were saying on this board all summer.

[dabom]

First great game of the season. Hopefully he doesn't get a big head and thinks he can do this against good teams. I also don't like how LMA has become an afterthought these last two games.

[ceperez]

Spurs apparently get better by not letting other good players play (i.e. Ginobili). There are too many scoring threats on the team and it really is an issue of how to EFFICIENTLY score.

I kind of wonder why Duncan needs to fire off a mid-range jumper or Aldridge needs to post up. Aldridge will always get an open shot if Parker keeps dribbling and waits till he's open.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I have been saying this for over a year, if Parker plays the way he has over the past two games, he still has 3-4 years of playing at a high level. The fact he went out passing first and had like 7 assist by halftime, the Nuggets didn't collapse as much in the 2nd half and he had a ton of open shots.

That is why Stockton had 40 point games in his late 30's because teams always respected his passing. Stockton shot like 53% for his career because teams always knew if they collapsed him hard, he would pass out of it, which would more than likely lead to an open shot. This is why he had so many open jumpers. Parker has the ability to play like Stockton, at least offensively, he just needs to maintain the mindset.

Like I said already, the Spurs will be the NBA Champions if he continues to play like this and barring any injuries to key players.

[EVAY]

Fourteen shot attempts last night. More than anyone except Leonard and Mills.

What happened last night was what is supposed to happen with our offense. Parker opened the game passing to Aldridge. When the defense starting denying the ball to Aldridge, the offense moved on to another shooter...whoever was open AND had a hot hand.

You seem to imagine that nothing that goes on out on the court is impacted at all by the way the defense is playing or who has the hot hand. Aldridge only shot 4 of 14 last night. Lots of other guys were shooting much better. Why shouldn't the TEAM pay attention to whomever the defense is allowing to shoot and has the hot hand?

[travis2]

Fourteen shot attempts last night. More than anyone except Leonard and Mills.

What happened last night was what is supposed to happen with our offense. Parker opened the game passing to Aldridge. When the defense starting denying the ball to Aldridge, the offense moved on to another shooter...whoever was open AND had a hot hand.

You seem to imagine that nothing that goes on out on the court is impacted at all by the way the defense is playing or who has the hot hand. Aldridge only shot 4 of 14 last night. Lots of other guys were shooting much better. Why shouldn't the TEAM pay attention to whomever the defense is allowing to shoot and has the hot hand?

You are assuming the player-fan-crew actually possess basketball knowledge, general intelligence, logic, observational skills and critical thinking skills. You should know better than that.

[ceperez]

I have been saying this for over a year, if Parker plays the way he has over the past two games, he still has 3-4 years of playing at a high level. The fact he went out passing first and had like 7 assist by halftime, the Nuggets didn't collapse as much in the 2nd half and he had a ton of open shots.

That is why Stockton had 40 point games in his late 30's because teams always respected his passing. Stockton shot like 53% for his career because teams always knew if they collapsed him hard, he would pass out of it, which would more than likely lead to an open shot. This is why he had so many open jumpers. Parker has the ability to play like Stockton, at least offensively, he just needs to maintain the mindset.

Like I said already, the Spurs will be the NBA Champions if he continues to play like this and barring any injuries to key players.

Parker is key for the 1st team offense to be effective. Postups by Leonard, Aldridge, Duncan are only useful on a mismatch. Diaw is a master at finding these opportunities.

BTW... West was shooting at a high percentage. Aldridge needs to step up his focus.

[MI21]

Gotta admit that it was weird watching last nights game with Tony looking like MVParker.

For the good of the team, all that matters. If he has 6pts/3asts next game and the team wins by 10+, I'll be just as happy tbh

[spurraider21]

Parker assisted on Aldridge's first 2 baskets in the first 2 minutes of the game. Both 20 foot jumpers. Then Denver changed their defense to contest LAs jumpers and it opened it up for Parker. Something Tim couldn't make them do last year. Exactly what some were saying on this board all summer.
yeah and then aldridge missed 10 of his next 12 shots. parker had 4 assists before making a shot himself. but keep reaching. because lol porker, amirite?

[SpursFan86]

Tony Parker played well :madrun:madrun:madrun

We won :madrun:madrun:madrun

[FkLA]

I have been saying this for over a year, if Parker plays the way he has over the past two games, he still has 3-4 years of playing at a high level. The fact he went out passing first and had like 7 assist by halftime, the Nuggets didn't collapse as much in the 2nd half and he had a ton of open shots.

That is why Stockton had 40 point games in his late 30's because teams always respected his passing. Stockton shot like 53% for his career because teams always knew if they collapsed him hard, he would pass out of it, which would more than likely lead to an open shot. This is why he had so many open jumpers. Parker has the ability to play like Stockton, at least offensively, he just needs to maintain the mindset.

Like I said already, the Spurs will be the NBA Champions if he continues to play like this and barring any injuries to key players.

:lol Rique doesn't have nor will he ever have Stockton's shooting touch or vision. He has like one three pointer all season and averages some of the lowest APG out of all starting PGs. That's not going to magically change this late in his career.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

:lol Rique doesn't have nor will he ever have Stockton's shooting touch or vision. He has like one three pointer all season and averages some of the lowest APG out of all starting PGs. That's not going to magically change this late in his career.

Did you watch the game last night. Parker made some very Stockton like passes last night. I have seen Parker play like a passing PG and he is capable of it. And Parker jumpshot is just as good as Stockton's. Yeah, his 3pt shot isn't, but again, Parker has more speed than Stockton ever possessed.

Parker has excellent vision. Yeah, it not good as Manu's, Diaw or Stockton, but its a notch below it.

Big thing about Parker, was he came out looking to pass first last night. It's not that Parker's vision is bad, its that he looking to shoot first. So the passing lanes and angles close before he can take advantage because he presses to score as oppose to pass when the lane is available.

Prime example last night was the last 3 by Kawhi. Parker is running down the floor. His defender is trailing. Faried is the only guy b/n him and basket. He speeds up and AS SOON AS Faried takes a step back to defend the lane, he shots the pass to Kawhi for the open corner 3. That is something you expect from Manu. Old Parker would have drove it to the basket and once the shot wasn't available pass it to Kawhi.

Last night game was very promising of the type of player Parker can be if he becomes a pass first type of PG for the remainder of his career.

[Killakobe81]

Leonard shutdown Gallo tonight. He had a lot on his plate..Tony has a lot on his plate too, but its mostly during dinner and lunch time tbh

:lol you aint right ...

Tony looked good.

[Horse]

Playing this way. Spurs had the highest scoring first half of the year. Tony led in points and assists while shooting at a high percentage. I think the Spurs are unstoppable with Tony playing this way. Let's hope he can keep it up. Defense was not great tonight against a not so good offense but that can be improved. I figured this should be created due to all the Tony hate.

If Parker can continue to take the defensive focus away from all this weapons we have this team can be unstoppable, especially with him dishing the ball like this and shooting at a high percentage. (Also to mention, Tony did not lead in FG attempts).

As long as they just go with whoever has the mismatch they will be fine. Nobody has to force anything cause one of them is bound to have a big advantage everynight.

[BatManu20]

667378412311318528

[Killakobe81]

I have been saying this for over a year, if Parker plays the way he has over the past two games, he still has 3-4 years of playing at a high level. The fact he went out passing first and had like 7 assist by halftime, the Nuggets didn't collapse as much in the 2nd half and he had a ton of open shots.

That is why Stockton had 40 point games in his late 30's because teams always respected his passing. Stockton shot like 53% for his career because teams always knew if they collapsed him hard, he would pass out of it, which would more than likely lead to an open shot. This is why he had so many open jumpers. Parker has the ability to play like Stockton, at least offensively, he just needs to maintain the mindset.

Like I said already, the Spurs will be the NBA Champions if he continues to play like this and barring any injuries to key players.

From memory and doing a quick internet check I dont think Stockton ever scored 40 points. It doesnt even fit in his nature. best I can find with a quick scan is 36 points ...so the above about 40 point games late in his 30's seems false. But I hated Utah so maybe I am wrong and you are right ...

[FkLA]

Did you watch the game last night. Parker made some very Stockton like passes last night. I have seen Parker play like a passing PG and he is capable of it. And Parker jumpshot is just as good as Stockton's. Yeah, his 3pt shot isn't, but again, Parker has more speed than Stockton ever possessed.

Parker has excellent vision. Yeah, it not good as Manu's, Diaw or Stockton, but its a notch below it.

Big thing about Parker, was he came out looking to pass first last night. It's not that Parker's vision is bad, its that he looking to shoot first. So the passing lanes and angles close before he can take advantage because he presses to score as oppose to pass when the lane is available.

Prime example last night was the last 3 by Kawhi. Parker is running down the floor. His defender is trailing. Faried is the only guy b/n him and basket. He speeds up and AS SOON AS Faried takes a step back to defend the lane, he shots the pass to Kawhi for the open corner 3. That is something you expect from Manu. Old Parker would have drove it to the basket and once the shot wasn't available pass it to Kawhi.

Last night game was very promising of the type of player Parker can be if he becomes a pass first type of PG for the remainder of his career.

With guys like Manu, Diaw, Nash, Stockton a good portion of their assists come from their vision/improvisation. Rique doesn't really do that. His way is simpler (penetrate, kick out) and relies more on the spacing the system creates. He's had high assist seasons/games but they're more a testament to his ability to penetrate and break down defenses than they are his vision.

You also can't compare a guy who's range only extends to midrange to one of the greatest shooters of all-time. That's insane.

[buttsR4rebounding]

yeah and then aldridge missed 10 of his next 12 shots. parker had 4 assists before making a shot himself. but keep reaching. because lol porker, amirite?

That is exactly the point. Parker created, got others involved. Then scored himself when the defense shifted. What else would you want a PG to do? He played a superior game tonight. If you are hating on Parker for last night's game it is not based on reality.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

From memory and doing a quick internet check I dont think Stockton ever scored 40 points. It doesnt even fit in his nature. best I can find with a quick scan is 36 points ...so the above about 40 point games late in his 30's seems false. But I hated Utah so maybe I am wrong and you are right ...

It might not have been 40, but he came close. I know one game in the playoffs I watched he had like 38 points.

Notice how Hakeem and Barkley hardly close out on Stockton drives. WHY??? Because they knew if they came over to early it was going to be a wide open shot for their man. This is how Parker played last night. He came out passing first and Nuggets were collapsing him early on the drive and it led to a lot of open and easy buckets for the Spurs. Nuggets started to play off him on the PnR role and Parker went to town.

Stockton was 35 year old here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-EEL7FfQM

And another video at 36 year's old. I watched both games. Notice HOW NOBODY collapsed on Stockton's drive or picks. WHY AGAIN????? Because you just didn't as Stockton would eat you alive with his passing. Parker did that last night and it was a sight for sore eyes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxiinwyeMow

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

With guys like Manu, Diaw, Nash, Stockton a good portion of their assists come from their vision/improvisation. Rique doesn't really do that. His way is simpler (penetrate, kick out) and relies more on the spacing the system creates. He's had high assist seasons/games but they're more a testament to his ability to penetrate and break down defenses than they are his vision.

You also can't compare a guy who's range only extends to midrange to one of the greatest shooters of all-time. That's insane.

Again, if you watched last night's game, he did just that. I am not comparing Parker to Stockton. Stockton is the best fundamental PG of all time and 3rd all time on my list. I am saying he needs to play like Stockton, LOOKING TO PASS FIRST. A lot of his passes came off early in his penetration when the passing lane was open. That behind the back pass to Duncan was awesome and he did it about 16 ft from the basket across the lane. Parker of old hardly took advantage of passes like this.

But, because he took advantage of it last night, it forced Denver's help defenders to stay on their man when Parker did drive, which allowed him a lot of open shots and uncontested layups and post ups.

As said this last year, if Parker would just become a pass first PG, he would get a ton of open looks because of it. Last night was the best night Parker has had in a long time as a true PG.

[will_spurs]

A lot of his passes came off early in his penetration when the passing lane was open. That behind the back pass to Duncan was awesome and he did it about 16 ft from the basket across the lane. Parker of old hardly took advantage of passes like this.

Exactly. It was 'drive then pass', now it's 'pass then drive'. I noticed Parker has added quite a few "fancy" passes to his repertoire. He usually got his assists from rather straightforward "kick-out to the open man" kind of passes, hardly highlight material. But recently he gets at least a couple of assists each game with more "point guard" passes that take the defense by surprise.

[SASdynasty!]

Krew formula:

Parker has a good game: "Yah, but it was against a crappy team."
Parker has a good game against a good team: "Regular season. Let's see what he can do in the playoffs."
Parker has a good game in the playoffs: "Let's see if he comes through when it matters most."
Parker has a good game 7 (ex: Mavs): "He should have played better earlier, we shouldn't have gone to 7."
Parker plays good for a whole series (WCF 2013): "Yah but can he play in the Finals?"
Parker plays good in the Finals (FMVP): "Boobie Gibson."

[Splits]

From memory and doing a quick internet check I dont think Stockton ever scored 40 points. It doesnt even fit in his nature. best I can find with a quick scan is 36 points ...so the above about 40 point games late in his 30's seems false. But I hated Utah so maybe I am wrong and you are right ...

http://i.imgur.com/u6WcYMv.png?

[will_spurs]

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Indeed Stockton's career high is 34 points (twice).

He scored 30 points once at age 35, and never after (after that the max was 26).

[Killakobe81]

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[Splits]

Im sure this was clever but my work blocked this image ...

Of course it was clever, I posted it.

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[will_spurs]

Of course it was clever, I posted it.

BTW if you copy/paste straight up from bkref it keeps the formatting (assuming there's some data to show which isn't the case here).

[Killakobe81]

Indeed Stockton's career high is 34 points (twice).

He scored 30 points once at age 35, and never after (after that the max was 26).

Thought so but I get Cowboys point but 40 just seemed like a high number for a classic PG type. 40 is a lot of points even for scoring PG's.

[sasaint]

Krew formula:

Parker has a good game: "Yah, but it was against a crappy team."
Parker has a good game against a good team: "Regular season. Let's see what he can do in the playoffs."
Parker has a good game in the playoffs: "Let's see if he comes through when it matters most."
Parker has a good game 7 (ex: Mavs): "He should have played better earlier, we shouldn't have gone to 7."
Parker plays good for a whole series (WCF 2013): "Yah but can he play in the Finals?"
Parker plays good in the Finals (FMVP): "Boobie Gibson."

:lol

[will_spurs]

40 is a lot of points even for scoring PG's.

Actually it's a lot of point for anybody except the typical volume shooters (and then again they have to be quite talented too).

Parker did it 3 times (42, 42, 55), Duncan did it 5 times (42, 42, 46, 47, 53 -- never after age 27) and Manu did it 6 times (40, 40, 43, 44, 46, 48 -- including once at age 32!)

[EVAY]

Krew formula:

Parker has a good game: "Yah, but it was against a crappy team."
Parker has a good game against a good team: "Regular season. Let's see what he can do in the playoffs."
Parker has a good game in the playoffs: "Let's see if he comes through when it matters most."
Parker has a good game 7 (ex: Mavs): "He should have played better earlier, we shouldn't have gone to 7."
Parker plays good for a whole series (WCF 2013): "Yah but can he play in the Finals?"
Parker plays good in the Finals (FMVP): "Boobie Gibson."

You broke the code!

[Killakobe81]

Actually it's a lot of point for anybody except the typical volume shooters (and then again they have to be quite talented too).

Parker did it 3 times (42, 42, 55), Duncan did it 5 times (42, 42, 46, 47, 53 -- never after age 27) and Manu did it 6 times (40, 40, 43, 44, 46, 48 -- including once at age 32!)

Great point. I would of thought Duncan had done it more but I think what makes Duncan special is the consistency of his greatness. Not his "peak". For example I know outside of the 70 point game David probably had more 40 point games than Tim and Tim could never get close to that 70 number he was dominant in different ways.
But you cant watch BOTH guys play in their prime and not conclude if you need a basket you would rather have Tim. David was the greater scorer and superior athlete. Duncan was just the better player, period. Tim's 3rd best post move is better than David's first. Robinson was a really good medium range shooter, but prime Duncan's bank shot was 10x more reliable ...

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Actually it's a lot of point for anybody except the typical volume shooters (and then again they have to be quite talented too).

Parker did it 3 times (42, 42, 55), Duncan did it 5 times (42, 42, 46, 47, 53 -- never after age 27) and Manu did it 6 times (40, 40, 43, 44, 46, 48 -- including once at age 32!)
How many times has Kobe and Westbrook done it though...

[rastaspur]

Parker looked good. He seemed quicker and more decisive in his decision making. He has lost a step but its not as bad as everyone is making it out.

Mudiay is an awful defender. But, Tony is adapting better to his limitations. When he gets in the paint nowadays he doesn't have separation like in the past. He's getting more comfortable with a guy always on his hip or closer than years past. He utilized the stop momentum and switch directions by pivoting move on mudiay several times.

He's been trying to be a pass first guard this year. Most pick and rolls this year have been him coming off the pick methodically to pull the defenders out to him to create pick and pop space for the big.

He smelled blood in the water and went shark mode. Proud of tp. I'm optimistic

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Robinson was great for awhile but similarly to most of the athletic big guys in the league, injuries took their toll pretty early... love David, but he didn't have longevity on his side.

Top 10 spurs all-time? (Tentative list)

1. Tim Duncan
2. David Robinson
3. Manu Ginobili
4. George Gervin
5. Tony Parker
6. Bruce Bowen
7. Kawhi Leonard
8. Sean Elliott
9. Richard Jefferson
10. James Silas

[Embedded]

Parker is terrible. These, please give me shots were playing against bad team anyway is just charity to feed his pos ego. Hope he slips in the shower.

did you slip in the prison shower and hit your head? Is that what happened to you? You were on your knees starting to get up... and "it" happened... then it happened everyday.... and it wasn't mutual since months earlier another inmate stabbed you in the dingaling with a fork, so now you can't pitch, only catch... and when you see a real alpha male like Mr. Parker, it makes you resent your sad life? I understand, bruh. I understand. What will you say when "9 Parker" hangs from the rafters? Will looking up at it remind you of being on your knees in the shower looking up?

[r0drig0lac]

Krew formula:

Parker has a good game: "Yah, but it was against a crappy team."
Parker has a good game against a good team: "Regular season. Let's see what he can do in the playoffs."
Parker has a good game in the playoffs: "Let's see if he comes through when it matters most."
Parker has a good game 7 (ex: Mavs): "He should have played better earlier, we shouldn't have gone to 7."
Parker plays good for a whole series (WCF 2013): "Yah but can he play in the Finals?"
Parker plays good in the Finals (FMVP): "Boobie Gibson."

haha sad but true

[will_spurs]

For example I know outside of the 70 point game David probably had more 40 point games than Tim and Tim could never get close to that 70 number he was dominant in different ways.

D-Rob had 22 games over 40 points.


How many times has Kobe and Westbrook done it though...

Jordan: 173
Kobe: 121
Lebron: 55
Durant: 44
Westbrook: 15

Link to full list of players with multiple 40-point games (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=career&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=40&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts)

[UNT Eagles 2016]

D-Rob had 22 games over 40 points.



Jordan: 173
Kobe: 121
Lebron: 55
Durant: 44
Westbrook: 15

Link to full list of players with multiple 40-point games (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=career&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=40&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts)
Wow, Harden has more than Westbrook? :wow

[spurraider21]

Robinson was great for awhile but similarly to most of the athletic big guys in the league, injuries took their toll pretty early... love David, but he didn't have longevity on his side.

Top 10 spurs all-time? (Tentative list)

1. Tim Duncan
2. David Robinson
3. Manu Ginobili
4. George Gervin
5. Tony Parker
6. Bruce Bowen
7. Kawhi Leonard
8. Sean Elliott
9. Richard Jefferson
10. James Silas
this fucker has richard jefferson on his list :lmao

[dabom]

this fucker has richard jefferson on his list :lmao

:lol

[will_spurs]

Wow, Harden has more than Westbrook? :wow

Westbrook is such an inefficient scorer, plus he shares the floor with a guy who's in the running for best scorer year in year out.

What's more impressive is that Curry is almost at their level already, and that Dirk and Pierce aren't that far ahead. Still they don't have many rings between them...

[FkLA]

Westbrook is such an inefficient scorer, plus he shares the floor with a guy who's in the running for best scorer year in year out.

What's more impressive is that Curry is almost at their level already, and that Dirk and Pierce aren't that far ahead. Still they don't have many rings between them...

Rique shoots 30% in Eurocup: 'He brought good energy, stop being a hater playerfan.' :madrun

Alphabrook goes for 40, 10 assts, 10 rebs on 40% shooting: 'But but he's so inefficient.' :cry

[will_spurs]

Alphabrook goes for 40, 10 assts, 10 rebs on 40% shooting: 'But but he's so inefficient.' :cry

43% shooting for his career... nothing to brag about.

[FkLA]

43% shooting for his career... nothing to brag about.

Yet when Rique shoots 30% in Eurobasket you defend him. :lol

[tholdren]

played the best of the starters, lowest plus minus

[SAGirl]

Again, if you watched last night's game, he did just that. I am not comparing Parker to Stockton. Stockton is the best fundamental PG of all time and 3rd all time on my list. I am saying he needs to play like Stockton, LOOKING TO PASS FIRST. A lot of his passes came off early in his penetration when the passing lane was open. That behind the back pass to Duncan was awesome and he did it about 16 ft from the basket across the lane. Parker of old hardly took advantage of passes like this.

But, because he took advantage of it last night, it forced Denver's help defenders to stay on their man when Parker did drive, which allowed him a lot of open shots and uncontested layups and post ups.

As said this last year, if Parker would just become a pass first PG, he would get a ton of open looks because of it. Last night was the best night Parker has had in a long time as a true PG.
Good analysis. Thank you for sharing the videos and analysis.

[SpursIndonesia]

Robinson was great for awhile but similarly to most of the athletic big guys in the league, injuries took their toll pretty early... love David, but he didn't have longevity on his side.

Top 10 spurs all-time? (Tentative list)

1. Tim Duncan
2. David Robinson
3. Manu Ginobili
4. George Gervin
5. Tony Parker
6. Bruce Bowen
7. Kawhi Leonard
8. Sean Elliott
9. Richard Jefferson
10. James Silas

He who shall not be named listed at number 9 spot ? Are you being facetious ?? Blasphemy !! :wow

[UNT Eagles 2016]

this fucker has richard jefferson on his list :lmao

And what's wrong with that? He was an excellent talent and a fan favorite, always good for 2-3 electrifying dunks per game including a facial every 3-5 games. He was notoriously clutch, including making the game-winning jumper in OT against the Thunder in Chesapeake, a tough corner 3 to beat Utah in Salt Lake in (2011?) and another one at the Palace in Detroit in 2012.

However, his contract became unfortunately cumbersome with a rapidly progressing rookie Kawhi on the team playing the same position and RJ was on the wrong side of 30 so we dealt him away. Still one of the more talented Spurs and a key contributor in the 2011 campaign that saw the Spurs boast a legendary 46-9 record over the first 55 games of the season before a slew of unlucky injuries at the exact wrong time after February took their toll and just squashed it. RJ was pretty darn good offensively again in 2012, but he was losing PT to Kawhi and even Danny Green because their defense was better. We ended up salary dumping him for an old veteran who we hoped could play defense and re-claim some magic from 9 years prior, but it ultimately wasn't enough to beat the free throw thunder.

[spurraider21]

And what's wrong with that? He was an excellent talent and a fan favorite, always good for 2-3 electrifying dunks per game including a facial every 3-5 games. He was notoriously clutch, including making the game-winning jumper in OT against the Thunder in Chesapeake, a tough corner 3 to beat Utah in Salt Lake in (2011?) and another one at the Palace in Detroit in 2012.

However, his contract became unfortunately cumbersome with a rapidly progressing rookie Kawhi on the team playing the same position and RJ was on the wrong side of 30 so we dealt him away. Still one of the more talented Spurs and a key contributor in the 2011 campaign that saw the Spurs boast a legendary 46-9 record over the first 55 games of the season before a slew of unlucky injuries at the exact wrong time after February took their toll and just squashed it.
:lmao this is worse than your "romo being injured is a blessing in disguise" post

[100%duncan]

Richard jefferso wtf? :lmao

[UNT Eagles 2016]

:lmao this is worse than your "romo being injured is a blessing in disguise" post

I didn't expect the Cowboys to go worse than 3 & 4 without Romo.... shitty luck

[will_spurs]

Yet when Rique shoots 30% in Eurobasket you defend him. :lol

Link? Or just another baseless, vague accusation as usual?

[HarlemHeat37]

Parker is having a solid season, so far, haven't had any problems with him, at all, as I've said before..

He was really good last November, as well, IIRC..even better than he has been, this season, IIRC..the problem is later on in the season, hopefully his body holds up..

[phxspurfan]

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[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Robinson was great for awhile but similarly to most of the athletic big guys in the league, injuries took their toll pretty early... love David, but he didn't have longevity on his side.

Top 10 spurs all-time? (Tentative list)

1. Tim Duncan
2. David Robinson
3. Manu Ginobili
4. George Gervin
5. Tony Parker
6. Bruce Bowen
7. Kawhi Leonard
8. Sean Elliott
9. Richard Jefferson
10. James Silas


You must be young. I can 5 spurs better than RJ. Robertson, AJ, Gilmore, Newman, Cummings. You could even put Strickland in there. I would even put Green and Mills above RJ at this point.

[will_spurs]

You must be young. I can 5 spurs better than RJ. Robertson, AJ, Gilmore, Newman, Cummings. You could even put Strickland in there. I would even put Green and Mills above RJ at this point.

Johnny Moore, Kerr or Horry are also all ranked way above RJ in my book.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

You must be young. I can 5 spurs better than RJ. Robertson, AJ, Gilmore, Newman, Cummings. You could even put Strickland in there. I would even put Green and Mills above RJ at this point.

Can't judge Robertson, Gilmore, Newman, Cummings -- not alive back then -- I think those were the "Dark Ages" of the Spurs. The Gervin era was the classical Roman-Greco era and the Robinson era was the renaissance, so anything in between is medieval.


AJ was extremely overrated -- paid good money to be a career motivator. Good passer but couldn't shoot or score and couldn't really defend either but in the TD/David era as a perimeter defender funneling your man to the bucket was good enough defense.

Rod Strickland -- lol, that guy was a jerk

Green and Mills haven't had nearly enough impact

Moore, again another dark ages player

Kerr and Horry were like NBA equivalents of special teams -- situational shot makers and made most of their impacts on other teams.



I do miss RJ's clutch threes and old Kevin Brock and the crowd's excitement whenever he nailed one...

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Can't judge Robertson, Gilmore, Newman, Cummings -- not alive back then -- I think those were the "Dark Ages" of the Spurs. The Gervin era was the classical Roman-Greco era and the Robinson era was the renaissance, so anything in between is medieval.


AJ was extremely overrated -- paid good money to be a career motivator. Good passer but couldn't shoot or score and couldn't really defend either but in the TD/David era as a perimeter defender funneling your man to the bucket was good enough defense.

Rod Strickland -- lol, that guy was a jerk

Green and Mills haven't had nearly enough impact

Moore, again another dark ages player

Kerr and Horry were like NBA equivalents of special teams -- situational shot makers and made most of their impacts on other teams.



I do miss RJ's clutch threes and old Kevin Brock and the crowd's excitement whenever he nailed one...


Moore, not age. Spurs made a WCF with him, Gilmore, and Gervin. I was a baby at the time but I still read about these guys. Strickland was an a hole, but he was better than RJ was when he was with the Spurs.

There was really no dark ages for the Spurs other than the year before Robinson join the Spurs and and year before Duncan was drafted. Spurs have only missed the playoff 3 times I believe since joining the NBA.

[Brazil]

RJ in a list of spurs all time ?

:lmao

[MVPCues]

Top Spurs all time...Richard Jefferson??? SFP...

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Moore, not age. Spurs made a WCF with him, Gilmore, and Gervin. I was a baby at the time but I still read about these guys. Strickland was an a hole, but he was better than RJ was when he was with the Spurs.

There was really no dark ages for the Spurs other than the year before Robinson join the Spurs and and year before Duncan was drafted. Spurs have only missed the playoff 3 times I believe since joining the NBA.

I always thought the 80s post Gervin were the Spurs' dark era

[will_spurs]

Kerr and Horry were like NBA equivalents of special teams -- situational shot makers and made most of their impacts on other teams.

I do miss RJ's clutch threes

Something doesn't compute here.

Kerr and Horry were the top "clutch 3" performers of their era and each won 2 rings with the Spurs. I'd say they made quite a lot of impact with the Spurs... (and Horry's hip check certainly made a lot of impact on Nash!)

RJ was overpaid, a huge disappointment, somebody the fans disliked (and players too given their behavior when they met him again) and the 2 years he spent with the Spurs are forgettable and already forgotten. I'd compare him to RMJ, except RMJ was actually liked by the fans in his first year.

BTW compared to these guys 2-year stints with the Spurs, Kerr spent 4 years in SA and Horry 5...

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Something doesn't compute here.

Kerr and Horry were the top "clutch 3" performers of their era and each won 2 rings with the Spurs. I'd say they made quite a lot of impact with the Spurs... (and Horry's hip check certainly made a lot of impact on Nash!)

RJ was overpaid, a huge disappointment, somebody the fans disliked (and players too given their behavior when they met him again) and the 2 years he spent with the Spurs are forgettable and already forgotten. I'd compare him to RMJ, except RMJ was actually liked by the fans in his first year.

BTW compared to these guys 2-year stints with the Spurs, Kerr spent 4 years in SA and Horry 5...
RMJ was a clutch shooter in 2009 but much worse overall because his defense was atrocious and he was useless when run off the three point line.

I wouldn't say RJ's stint (which, by the way, lasted from 2009 to 2012 -- that's more than 2 years) was a "huge disappointment". Sure, he didn't morph into a bona fide superstar, but he was one of the main bright spots on those 2010, 2011 teams, in particular the 2011 team that started out 46–9 and was poised to win 67+ and an easy title in a wide-open year before the injuries toppled that season.

Somehow, I can't peg either Kerr or Horry (both always-bench players, particularly on the Spurs) as top 10 all-time Spurs; they had a couple legendary moments, but they weren't there to help carry significant parts of the main load the vast majority of the time. Also, it's hard to get past the fact that Kerr will always be remembered most as a Bull and Horry a Laker.

[will_spurs]

I wouldn't say RJ's stint (which, by the way, lasted from 2009 to 2012 -- that's more than 2 years)[quote]

Ok, 2.5 seasons.

[quote]he was one of the main bright spots on those 2010, 2011 teams

Actually on those years it was the big 3 (especially Parker in 2011) + a bit of George Hill...


Somehow, I can't peg either Kerr or Horry (both always-bench players, particularly on the Spurs) as top 10 all-time Spurs;

I didn't say top 10, I said "ranked way above RJ".

And re: Kerr I seem associated with the Spurs quite regularly, especially since he moved into front office/coaching.

[SpursforSix]

As much as offcourt actions make it tough...whoever said Alvin Robertson is correct.
He was a great 2 way player. I'd say he's ahead of Bowen on that list.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

[QUOTE=UNT Eagles 2016;8279137]I wouldn't say RJ's stint (which, by the way, lasted from 2009 to 2012 -- that's more than 2 years)[quote]

Ok, 2.5 seasons.



Actually on those years it was the big 3 (especially Parker in 2011) + a bit of George Hill...



I didn't say top 10, I said "ranked way above RJ".

And re: Kerr I seem associated with the Spurs quite regularly, especially since he moved into front office/coaching.
With the Warriors? croffle. Guy hasn't been associated with the Spurs since June 2003.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

As much as offcourt actions make it tough...whoever said Alvin Robertson is correct.
He was a great 2 way player. I'd say he's ahead of Bowen on that list.
During the worst era of the Spurs though, tbh...

[SpursforSix]

During the worst era of the Spurs though, tbh...

sure. but there's not many that would argue he wasn't a top player. IIRC, he's one of the players that Jordan actually gave credit to for being able to guard him tough.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

sure. but there's not many that would argue he wasn't a top player. IIRC, he's one of the players that Jordan actually gave credit to for being able to guard him tough.
that was early Jordan though... well before he won his first title.

[HarlemHeat37]

Green, Diaw and Horry are far ahead of Jefferson on an all-Spurs list, I don't even think there's much of an argument otherwise, tbh:lol..I'd say Splitter, Bonner and probably Patty are ahead of him, too..maybe Stephen Jackson, depending on how much you value his short stints..

[dabom]

RJ is vying for the top 10 worst Spurs players tbh.

[dabom]

3&noD player that was the 2nd highest paid player next to Duncan and was a known playoff choker. Really a bust tbh.

[SpursforSix]

that was early Jordan though... well before he won his first title.

because Jordan sucked until 1991?

[will_spurs]

With the Warriors? croffle. Guy hasn't been associated with the Spurs since June 2003.

He's been constantly associated with the Spurs as a GM for the Suns and coach for the Warriors, also because the links to the Spurs are everywhere in the coaching world and he just lost COY last year to... another Spurs guy.

When was the last time he was associated with Chicago?

[SpursforSix]

that was early Jordan though... well before he won his first title.


Career stats: 14.0 PPG 5.2 RPG 5.0 APG 2.7 SPG
Career accomplishments: 4x All-Star, 1x Defensive Player of the Year, 1x Most Improved Player, 1x All-NBA, 6x All-Defense

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Parker is finding that with that frontline, pnr is leaving the lane wide open if he can beat his man. Rotations are reluctant to nonexistent. If he can start finishing like he once was able, he is going to provide a lot of pressure on defenses to cut off the floater and 15 footer.

Right now the spacing sucks but that will improve and once the motion becomes second nature to new and old alike then it's on.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Parker is finding that with that frontline, pnr is leaving the lane wide open if he can beat his man. Rotations are reluctant to nonexistent. If he can start finishing like he once was able, he is going to provide a lot of pressure on defenses to cut off the floater and 15 footer.

Right now the spacing sucks but that will improve and once the motion becomes second nature to new and old alike then it's on.
They'll let him fill up on those for sure.