Rank the top 5 most overrated coaches in world..

[spursistan]

1- Scolari (most overrated ever)
2- Villas Boas
3- Van Gaal
4- Wenger
5- Benitez

[DAF86]

When was Benitez ever rated by anyone? Outside of Florentino, lefty and Jodelo of course. :lol

[spursistan]

When was Benitez ever rated by anyone? Outside of Florentino, lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) and Jodelo (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=23669) of course. :lol
but....but...but..:cry Istanbul :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

Van Gaal
Klopp
Benitez
Simeone
Arsene

[Venti Quattro]

Wenger is not overrated. That's what you're going to expect from him

[lefty]

Ancelloti
Klopp
Van Haal
Conte
Simeone

[Brazil]

Mourinho
Gaurdiola

[lefty]

Mourinho
Gaurdiola
:lol Mou is not overrated tbh

He is the one who found a way to break a great Barcelona team; sure he got manited in his 1st Clasico, but he adjusted and his players started to believe; he won La Liga when Barca was super scary

:lol Ancelloshit is overrated as fuck , Madrid won the CL with the team Mourinho built; Ancelloshit didn't win the CL, he got bailed out by Ramos in the last seconds

Pep and hipster phaggot Klopp are overrated though

[resistanze]

:lol Ancelloshit is overrated as fuck , Madrid won the CL with the team Mourinho built; Ancelloshit didn't win the CL, he got bailed out by Ramos in the last seconds
And Benitez tbh?

[lefty]

And Benitez tbh?

He is not overrated by anyone, everyone hates him

[spursistan]

:lmao Van Gaal..always been a top overrated hack with terrible attitude.. after all, this the dude who missed 2002 WC with stacked Netherlands team..Even the WC'14 semi run he just lucked out with the draw vs washed up Spain/Mexico and Costa rica in OT/PK...

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao Van Gaal..always been a top overrated hack with terrible attitude.. after all, this the dude who missed 2002 WC with stacked Netherlands team..Even the WC'14 semi run he just lucked out with the draw vs washed up Spain/Mexico and Costa rica in OT/PK...

[lefty]

David Moyes: £30m spent = Champions League Quarter Finals.

Van Gaal: £250m spent = Champions League Group Stage https://t.co/cN8WdC17Jk

[spursistan]

just like the NBA, an evolving legend aside like Pop, modern soccer has passed by guys like Van Gaal, Capello co..Time for these coaching retreads in their 60s to retire..

[lefty]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWrGtyRUkAEwP0e.png
http://i.imgur.com/aJAKHlL.jpg

[NASpurs]

http://i.imgur.com/aJAKHlL.jpg


:lmao :lmao

Wait, Arsenal lost to WBA. NVM :lol

[spursistan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWrGtyRUkAEwP0e.png
http://i.imgur.com/aJAKHlL.jpg

:lmao at the hipster for not waiting a couple of months to coach Bayern next season; instead he jumps into the shambles of liverpool burying his career in the process..

[TDMVPDPOY]

wheres pep on the lists?

cant win shit without a stacked team

now wants to buy messi to mancity...shit cant win shit, still riding coat tails of messi...

[lefty]

wheres pep on the lists?

cant win shit without a stacked team

now wants to buy messi to mancity...shit cant win shit, still riding coat tails of messi...:lol my nig

[Brazil]

Mourinho
Guardiola

:wakeup

[spursistan]

Benitez is up there too in the sense that he was never a big-club coach..dude fluked a CL and and is barely good to lead the Napoli/Sevilla of the worlds to random UEFA/Super Cups that nobody cares about..

[lefty]

He also won 2 Liga titles, but he didn't have to deal with big egos there.

[DAF86]

:lol my nig

Your nig because he says Pep rided Messi's coattail, yet you spent everyday of you life calling Messi a coattail rider. Make up your mind son :lol

[spursistan]

Van Gaal finally getting shown up in an embarrassing fashion :lol..

[lefty]

:lol Van Cuuck

[spursistan]

707548380227084288

Ajax Golden Generation....

Guardiola will begin to hear the same tune in few years..

[lefty]

:lol Pep Jackson

[lefty]

Dortmund is currently playing the best season in club history. Despite only being 2nd in the league


:lol Jurgen Flopp

:lol overrated hipster
TheGreatYacht Jodelo

[turkish spurs fan]

5- guardiola
4- low
3 - prandelli
2 - wenger
1 - scolari

[TheGreatYacht]

Dortmund is currently playing the best season in club history. Despite only being 2nd in the league


:lol Jurgen Flopp

:lol overrated hipster
TheGreatYacht (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) Jodelo (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=23669)
:lmao

[spursistan]

Laurent Blanc has gone under the radar, tbh..PSG should sack his ass if they go out to this sorry Citeh team..

[lefty]

Laurent Blanc has gone under the radar, tbh..PSG should sack his ass if they go out to this sorry Citeh team..

:lmao PSG allowing Aurier to play vs Citeh despite him calling Blanc a feggit
:lmao desperate
:lmao no pride

:lmao Aurier was right,Blanc IS a feggit

:lol Aurier responsible for Citeh's 2nd game
:lol karma

[spursistan]

Aurier was right..this lollipop-sucking faggot is overrated AF :lol

PSG should throw money at Mourinho, tbh..

[lefty]

Aurier was right..this lollipop-sucking faggot is overrated AF :lol

PSG should throw money at Mourinho, tbh..

To be fair PSG' s whole MF wasn't available today

[spursistan]

To be fair PSG' s whole MF wasn't available today
meh..not like he was facing a European giant..this is a verdict on 'three years' of CL play..Some coaches are shitty in Europe..see. Conte with Juventus/Mancini with City..

[TheGreatYacht]

720000088802783233

:wow


:lmao

[Canyonero]

lol French football

[spursistan]

720000088802783233

:wow


:lmao

:lmao

[DAF86]

720000088802783233

:wow


:lmao

Textbook butthurtness, tbh. :lol

[spursistan]

As Lefty been saying Gaurdiola is basically the Phil Jackson of soccer :lol (rode the coattails of Spanish Golden generation + Messi)..he inherited one of the greatest European teams in recent times and ended up massively underachieving outside the domestic leagues..he is really overrated on the tactical part when he has no Messi/Iniesta quality player to bail him out..his exposal is going to be more magnified with City...

[lefty]

As Lefty been saying Gaurdiola is basically the Phil Jackson of soccer :lol (rode the coattails of Spanish Golden generation + Messi)..he inherited one of the greatest European teams in recent times and ended up massively underachieving outside the domestic leagues..he is really overrated on the tactical part when he has no Messi/Iniesta quality player to bail him out..his exposal is going to be more magnified with City...
:lol Pep Jackson

[DAF86]

As Lefty been saying Gaurdiola is basically the Phil Jackson of soccer :lol (rode the coattails of Spanish Golden generation + Messi)..he inherited one of the greatest European teams in recent times and ended up massively underachieving outside the domestic leagues..he is really overrated on the tactical part when he has no Messi/Iniesta quality player to bail him out..his exposal is going to be more magnified with City...


:lol Pep Jackson

Jackson actually ringed, and ringed bigtime, with all his stacked teams, tbh.

[lefty]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChjzKGzWUAQF3Rp.jpg

[DAF86]

But...but....but the Spanish league sucks :cry

[DAF86]

Will say this though. If Guardiola can implement his tiki-taka in England he should run circles around those dumb kick and run lovers, tbh.

[lefty]

Will say this though. If Guardiola can implement his tiki-taka in England he should run circles around those dumb kick and run lovers, tbh.

Not against Stoke!

[TheGreatYacht]

Will say this though. If Guardiola can implement his tiki-taka in England he should run circles around those dumb kick and run lovers, tbh.
I'd love for him to try that AT Swansea

Hint: Won't work

[Canyonero]

Tbf with Pep, he kicked out Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Deco, "nownow" Touré for Barca youngsters like Busquets and Pedro. It's not like he kept going with the previous players.

[spursistan]

Hipster :lmao

[lefty]

Hipster :lmao

Tbh Liverpool should have had 2 penaldos in the 1st

But Sevilla dominated the 2nd

[TheGreatYacht]

Klopp the Flopp

Finished 6th under Rodgers, 8th with the Flopp :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

734823471608401921

English media gotta stop gassing these dudes up man :lol

[dfens]

del bosque is very overrated right now, the man is a shadow of what he once was. They should be even more dominant with that stacked squad.
Almost broke my TV when he played the crazy retarded rosters in 2014 with diego costa long balls, talk about a tactical mess. Now keeping casillas... he's like phil jackson these days.

[TDMVPDPOY]

734823471608401921

English media gotta stop gassing these dudes up man :lol

i give klopp one more season b4 giving a verdict on him, he has money this summer to spend and overhaul that shitpool roster.. all he did was inherit shit and still made a finals and choked with shit clogging the rectum being pushed back in

wenger the wanker is a wanker for a reason

pep is a pos who coatrides and inherits teams already built to win with or without him...

[TDMVPDPOY]

Will say this though. If Guardiola can implement his tiki-taka in England he should run circles around those dumb kick and run lovers, tbh.

epl is a shit hole where most of the players in t hat league especially english men have no technical skills to dribble the ball or take the defense on... they only move in 1 direction and thats about it, kick the ball to next nearest faggot and fans clap their hands? wtf

[lefty]

kick the ball to next nearest faggot and fans clap their hands? wtf

:lol that's true tbh

[lefty]

Gundogan and Nolito to Citeh


:lol Citeh roster wasn't stacked enough for Pep Jackson
:lol he needs to double stack

[resistanze]

Gundogan and Nolito to Citeh


:lol Citeh roster wasn't stacked enough for Pep Jackson
:lol he needs to double stack

What'd you expect with Pep Jackson and Phil Mourinho starting the English version their rivarly tbh? Stackolympics

:lol Wenger settles for Vardy
:lol Vardy still says fuck off
:lol Wankers

[lefty]

:lol Arsene still 4th


5 highest paid managers in the world: 1. Pep Guardiola, 2. Carlo Ancelotti, 3. Jose Mourinho, 4. Arsene Wenger, 5. Luis Enrique (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/05/who-are-the-top-10-highest-paid-managers-in-the-world/ronald-koeman/)

[Brazil]

:lol Arsene still 4th


5 highest paid managers in the world: 1. Pep Guardiola, 2. Carlo Ancelotti, 3. Jose Mourinho, 4. Arsene Wenger, 5. Luis Enrique (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/05/who-are-the-top-10-highest-paid-managers-in-the-world/ronald-koeman/)

:lol dude is good

[resistanze]

:lol Arsene still 4th


5 highest paid managers in the world: 1. Pep Guardiola, 2. Carlo Ancelotti, 3. Jose Mourinho, 4. Arsene Wenger, 5. Luis Enrique (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/05/who-are-the-top-10-highest-paid-managers-in-the-world/ronald-koeman/)

:lol

[lefty]

:lol let<s add Unay Emery to the list

[DAF86]

Still early but...


Will say this though. If Guardiola can implement his tiki-taka in England he should run circles around those dumb kick and run lovers, tbh.

[dfens]

Still early but...

well no shit son, guardiola is a UCL winner compared to the shit in the premier league. These niggas only know how to kick it wide and run .. a sophistication of the game brought directly from the 19th century.

[spursistan]

PSG have somehow found a away to downgrade in the coaching department..at least Blanc walked the league :lol..

[lefty]

:lol let<s add Unay Emery to the list

:lmao holy shit another loss

[resistanze]

Phil Mourinho is getting exposed left and right. It's been downhill since Inter vs Barca tbh. He's just a whiny egomaniac now that throws players under the bus far too often and early.

[dfens]

Phil Mourinho is getting exposed left and right. It's been downhill since Inter vs Barca tbh. He's just a whiny egomaniac now that throws players under the bus far too often and early.

never like that arrogant negro tbh.

[Brazil]

Mourinho


yup

[lefty]

yup
WE WILL SEE

[Brazil]

WE WILL SEE

WE ALREADY SAW

[lefty]

:lmao
(google translate tbh)


http://www.der-postillon.com/2016/09/hsv-schleudersitz.html?m=1

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Ancelotti

[spursistan]

Pep Jackson when Misty isn't holding his hand :lmao

What a fuckin' spectacular reminder :lol

[spursistan]

Bayern had a far superior (already decorated) roster/core and he still got schooled by his La Liga counterparts, now it is straight bitch-slapping with an overrated City one :lol

[lefty]

Pep is incredible. Barcelona are invincible at home when Pep is involved

[dfens]

mourinho, guardiola, enrique ... these niggas are overrated as hell, all benefiting from crazy rosters and only playing one gimmick strategy all the time.

ancelotti isn't overrated, he is just getting old, but he is a versatile coach, coached many types of players, won with different teams.

[lefty]

:lol Pep Jackson with 6 consecutive winless games for the 1st time
:lol it's not the same when you aren't coaching Barca or Bayern

[spursistan]

:lmao Pep Jackson
:lmao EXPOSED

I knew Conte will turn out to be the best summer managerial signing..dude did a solid job with Juve and Italy despite the lack of elite talent..

[TheGreatYacht]

Pep Jackson is about to drive his oil selling owners to bankruptcy in the summer tbh

[lefty]

:lmao Pep Jackson
:lmao EXPOSED

I knew Conte will turn out to be the best summer managerial signing..dude did a solid job with Juve and Italy despite the lack of elite talent..
He was exposed a looooooong time ago

[lefty]

:lmao Klopp
:lmao blowing a 3-0 lead on Bournemouth
:lol Bournemouth won

[resistanze]

:lol Pep Jackson
:lol Phil Mourinho

[lefty]

:lol Pep Jackson
:lol Phil Mourinho

:lol all things considered Arsene is looking good this season

[resistanze]

:lol all things considered Arsene is looking good this season

I'm sure he'll blow his load by New Years, but still not as bad as spending 100 million of Pogdance :lol

:lol Manure
:lol Mou brings on Fellaini
:lol 5 min later, give up penalty

[lefty]

I'm sure he'll blow his load by New Years, but still not as bad as spending 100 million of Pogdance :lol

:lol Manure
:lol Mou brings on Fellaini
:lol 5 min later, give up penalty

:lol Cucknited
:lol Fellaini

[dfens]

mourinho :lol what a faggot tbh

[140]

805174186792591360

salty as fuck :lol

[lefty]

805174186792591360

salty as fuck :lol

Eto totally owned that clown

[dunkman]

Eto totally owned that clown

Great coach, but Eto, Ibra and co definitely may have a point.

[spursistan]

Pepe Jackson getting his shit pushed in by 3 Italians managers in one week..

Man City fans and Guardiola tards blowing their load after the first 5 games..:lmao

And this is happening in the weakest EPL era ever, mind you..:lol

[spursistan]

Will say this though. If Guardiola can implement his tiki-taka in England he should run circles around those dumb kick and run lovers, tbh.
lol

[DAF86]

lol

Not paying attention, tbh. How bad are they doing?

[lefty]

Not paying attention, tbh. How bad are they doing?
Leicester was leading 2-0 after 5 minutes :lol

[DAF86]

Leicester was leading 2-0 after 5 minutes :lol

I'm talking in general. How are they doing on the table?

[lefty]

I'm talking in general. How are they doing on the table?

Not really better than with Pellegrini.

If Chelsea stays healthy they should win the title

Conte is a far superior manager

In fact Pep Jackson has been shat on by Italian managers in his last 3 games

[DAF86]

I was asking for the numbers, not personal opinions but whatever, if I someday care enough I will look it up myself. :lol

[spursistan]

Emery :lol
Pooropa league coaches :lol

[lefty]

Emery :lol
Pooropa league coaches :lol

:lol QSG
:lol Al Khelaifi will be out a well

:lol David Luiz and Ibra knew what was coming

[lefty]

:lol pep Jackson

[spursistan]

As Lefty been saying Gaurdiola is basically the Phil Jackson of soccer :lol (rode the coattails of Spanish Golden generation + Messi)..he inherited one of the greatest European teams in recent times and ended up massively underachieving outside the domestic leagues..he is really overrated on the tactical part when he has no Messi/Iniesta quality player to bail him out..his exposal is going to be more magnified with City...

:wakeup

[Kawhitstorm]

:wakeup

Pop got exposed at BM when he went to a team that won a CL & came out empty handed when his agenda was to show he can win it w/o Xavi/Iniesta.:lol

[lefty]

:lmao Pep Jackson
:lmao rekt 4-0 by Everton

[spursistan]

It is absolutely embarrassing that Arsene Wenger was once thought of to be on Alex Ferguson level :lol..Never has a manager reputation sunk like his the past decade..

He will be most remembered for his late tenured medicority with the Gunners more than his early few successes..

[lefty]

It is absolutely embarrassing that Arsene Wenger was once thought of to be on Alex Ferguson level :lol..Never has a manager reputation sunk like his the past decade..

He will be most remembered for his late tenured medicority with the Gunners more than his early few successes..

Dude was carried by Bergkamp and Henry tbh

[Canyonero]

Pochettino to Barca rumors surface again.

[lefty]

Pochettino to Barca rumors surface again.
Wouldn't be a bad fit tbh

They still need to overhaul their MF though, Pooch is no miracle worker

[DAF86]

Pochettino to Barca rumors surface again.

They should go after Sampaoli.

[lefty]

They should go after Sampaoli.

It doesn't matter if they don't fix that MF

[DAF86]

It doesn't matter if they don't fix that MF

Well that's Sampaoli's job, tbh. He would probably bring elzontzi (or however that big balck dude that balls in Sevilla is called) with him.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

It doesn't matter if they don't fix that MF

Benching Gomes will improve the MF by default :lol

Worst Barca signing of the decade.

[spursistan]

Emery :lmao...

[spursistan]

Emery :lmao...
Don't know who is avaliable in the market, bu he gotta get sacked if the CL is still priority for the team..I would see if i can pry Allegri from Juventus in the offseason..

[lefty]

:lol SampaLOLi
:lol can't beat a RugbyPL team

:lol darker Klopp

[spursistan]

As Lefty been saying Gaurdiola is basically the Phil Jackson of soccer :lol (rode the coattails of Spanish Golden generation + Messi)..he inherited one of the greatest European teams in recent times and ended up massively underachieving outside the domestic leagues..he is really overrated on the tactical part when he has no Messi/Iniesta quality player to bail him out..his exposal is going to be more magnified with City...

one more time :wakeup..

EXPOSED for all to see....

[Brazil]

Gaurdiola

I was first

me

[lefty]

I was first

me

Lol thwnjs

[DAF86]

Van Gaal
Klopp
Benitez
Simeone
Arsene


Ancelloti
Klopp
Van Haal
Conte
Simeone

How can anyone consider Simeone overrated? You might dislike his style, but the guy took a team on the brink of relegation and transformed it into one of the top 4/5 teams in the World.

[resistanze]

WE WILL SEE

Still in Phil Mourinho's corner tbh? Nikka spent over 1 billion dollars on players in his career, got his 100 million man, wants 4 more players this summer, still in 6th.

[lefty]

Still in Phil Mourinho's corner tbh? Nikka spent over 1 billion dollars on players in his career, got his 100 million man, wants 4 more players this summer, still in 6th.
Nigga still won UCL with a shit Porto team

And was the last RM coach to win La Liga

Would have made 2 consecutive UCL Finals if fucking Ozil didn't choke in 2 consecutive semi-finals

[resistanze]

Nigga still won UCL with a shit Porto team

And was the last RM coach to win La Liga

Would have made 2 consecutive UCL Finals if fucking Ozil didn't choke in 2 consecutive semi-finals

:lol Di Matteo and Rafa won CL too

Literally by dollars is the most stacked coach of all time.

2 mutinies on his last 2 teams tbh? When he spends another 200 million this summer, he'll be a great coach tbh?

Same as Pep, don't know why you love him tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

Mourinho is a rich man's Van Gaal tbh still trash tho

[lefty]

:lol Di Matteo and Rafa won CL too

Literally by dollars is the most stacked coach of all time.

2 mutinies on his last 2 teams tbh? When he spends another 200 million this summer, he'll be a great coach tbh?

Same as Pep, don't know why you love him tbh

They won with bwtter teams than Porto tbh...

Yeah Jose has lost his locker rooms but he is still a great coach

[140]

:lol

[lefty]

Sampaloli is creeping up

[DAF86]

Sampaloli is creeping up

Why? Because he finally got Sevilla past the group stage of the CL, or because he's on pace to setting Sevilla's record in pts on the league?

[lefty]

Why? Because he finally got Sevilla past the group stage of the CL, or because he's on pace to setting Sevilla's record in pts on the league?

They have been playing like shit lately

:lmao and they lost to fucking Leicester

[DAF86]

They have been playing like shit lately

:lmao and they lost to fucking Leicester

They were unlucy as fuck against Leicester, they missed two penaldos. And yeah, the whole team's moral went to shit after getting eliminated and are now playing like shit, but you have to take into account all the season and the whole season was pretty damn good, tbh.

[ElNono]

lol sampaloli...

https://k42.kn3.net/taringa/1/1/3/4/8/1/03/vagonettas/01E.gif

[Canyonero]

^GOAT Caruso gif imho

[dfens]

any barcelona coach (guardiola/enrique/etc), lmao all that talent and no tactical innovation, just bandwaggoning elite talent, zero flexibility or intellect.
mourinho, one hit wonder.
wenger :lmao, no other words needed
england's euro'16 coach :lol

[spursistan]

983807853994692608

Why this fraud (relatively speaking) is still revered as some Coaching deity is beyond me.. :lol

Ever since he left Barca he's gone from one big game fiasco to the other. Even there, the fact that he failed to repeat in the CL with peak Messi/Iniesta/Xavi is a blot on his resume..

Fuckin hate this new fad in soccer public space where fans and media nurture and perpetrate a manager cult of personality..

[dfens]

983807853994692608

Why this fraud (relatively speaking) is still revered as some Coaching deity is beyond me.. :lol

Ever since he left Barca he's gone from one big game fiasco to the other. Even there, the fact that he failed to repeat in the CL with peak Messi/Iniesta/Xavi is a blot on his resume..

Fuckin hate this new fad in soccer public space where fans and media nurture and perpetrate a manager cult of personality..

fans are dumb tbh, that's life. harden wins mvp in basketball.. same thing, people are obsessed with idols in an idol obsessed culture.

[spursistan]

fans are dumb tbh, that's life. harden wins mvp in basketball.. same thing, people are obsessed with idols in an idol obsessed culture.
Yep, this faggot ruined a potential Bayern dynasty in Europe by being a one-dimentional tactical dumbfuck. Bayern should have easily rung in 2014/2016. Madrid were pretty unconvincing in both those CL runs..

[spursistan]

983927124422742016

:lmao..

[spursistan]

985095047006904320

Stop hiring him at big clubs; he is past it..

[Bynumite]

Resistanze really equating Mou's CL trophy at Porto with Liverpool's and Chelsea's :lmao

To put things in perspective, Liverpool just paid 85 mil for a centre back, with that money you can buy Porto's starting 11 and still save 35 mil :lol

[resistanze]

Your point for reviving a year old post was the fact the cost of footy players has increased significantly today than in the past? Neymar alone costed more than United's famed treble winning teams in the past, so what? And this year doesn't nothing but to solidify my points about Phil Mourinho :lol

People want it both ways - you want to give extra credit for one-off winning CLs with smaller teams, but not criticize the same manger (who has spent the most money in football history after he left and never looked back) for failing to win titles since. Mou hasn't won CL since Inter and has under-performed repeatedly for years with the world's biggest budget. Pick a lane.

[Bynumite]

Your point for reviving a year old post was the fact the cost of footy players has increased significantly today than in the past? Neymar alone costed more than United's famed treble winning teams in the past, so what? And this year doesn't nothing but to solidify my points about Phil Mourinho :lol

People want it both ways - you want to give extra credit for one-off winning CLs with smaller teams, but not criticize the same manger (who has spent the most money in football history after he left and never looked back) for failing to win titles since. Mou hasn't won CL since Inter and has under-performed repeatedly for years with the world's biggest budget. Pick a lane.

Just read your post for the 1st time and no, i didn't wait a whole year to reply :lol

I wasn't comparing Liverpool's recent centre back acquisition to Porto's 2004 CL winning squad, that would have been retarded, obviously you gotta make the adjustment for inflation. I was talking about their current squad, but the huge disparity in player budgets has always been there though between portuguese league and EPL, specially a top tier team.

Not denying that Mou fell off. The comparison you did between winning a CL at Porto with Chelsea/Liverpool was flatout retarded though :lol

[resistanze]

Just read your post for the 1st time and no, i didn't wait a whole year to reply :lol

I wasn't comparing Liverpool's recent centre back acquisition to Porto's 2004 CL winning squad, that would have been retarded, obviously you gotta make the adjustment for inflation. I was talking about their current squad, but the huge disparity in player budgets has always been there though between portuguese league and EPL, specially a top tier team.

Not denying that Mou fell off. The comparison you did between winning a CL at Porto with Chelsea/Liverpool was flatout retarded though :lol

Not really, people are just enamored by the 'but Porto!' argument - I wonder how many people actually remember that season. For a forum that has turned into a Penaldo vs Midget pissing contest where a common CL argument is 'hardest path', I find that ironic :lol

Porto finished first in their league and in CL played Monaco in finals, Deportivo in SF, Lyon in QF, and United in R16. Liverpool finished fifth in their league and in CL played Milan in the finals, Chelsea in the SF, Juventus in the QF, and Bayer Levekeusen in the R16. You might want to look at the team Liverpool fielded that season instead of getting caught up in club names :lol

Anyways, my original post from a year ago was that Mou was currently sucking it up, so pointing to Porto's 2004 CL run was actually irrelevant in the first place. I also don't get why like I said above, winning with a smaller team is supposed to get extra points when he hasn't been back since (and this diminishes like, 90% of teams that in CL who win with juggernaut teams).

[spursistan]

Pochettino is just another overhyped empty-CV manager that has developed a cult following.

Even a washed-up Wenger can still win FA Cups :lol..

This an annoying fad that has spread the world of soccer.. A bunch of nobodies getting way too much talk as some coaching geniuses and yet they have almost nothing to show for it in silverware (Pochettino, Sarri, Tuchel ..etc).

Go ahead and hire him Madrid/PSG :lol..

[resistanze]

Pochettino is just another overhyped empty-CV manager that has developed a cult following.

Even a washed-up Wenger can still FA Cups :lol..

This an annoying fad that has spread the world of soccer.. A bunch of nobodies getting way too much talk as some coaching geniuses and yet they have almost nothing to show for it in silverware (Pochettino, Sarri, Tuchel ..etc).

Go ahead and hire him Madrid/PSG :lol..

:lol Not starting Hugo Lloris b/c of 'trust' for backup keeper, with first chance at trophy in forever
:lol Vorm letting that goal right through him
:lol Kane

[spursistan]

:lol Not starting Hugo Lloris b/c of 'trust' for backup keeper, with first chance at trophy in forever
:lol Vorm letting that goal right through him
:lol Kane
From twitter: "Pochettino = Walmart Guardiola" :lmao..

Seriously why is this zero-trophy manager a thing? :lol

[lefty]

:lol Poshittino

:lol got rid of Bentaleb

:lol Bentaleb is a regular starter at Schalke, the 2nd best team in Bundesliga

[Canyonero]

Montella anyone?

[spursistan]

Montella anyone?
He was never rated to begin with :lol..

[dfens]

Montella anyone?

worse coach than a screaming midget tbh...

[pgardn]

:lol Not starting Hugo Lloris b/c of 'trust' for backup keeper, with first chance at trophy in forever
:lol Vorm letting that goal right through him
:lol Kane


:lol Poshittino

:lol got rid of Bentaleb

:lol Bentaleb is a regular starter at Schalke, the 2nd best team in Bundesliga

Kane is still injured. Llorente as the backup is a no go, he’s gone in the summer, soooo slow.
Lloris himself has been far from spectacular. But Vorm was bad.


Lefty, lefty, lefty.... No one knows how good Pooch is, but using Bentalib as an example is really a long lefty stretch as Spurs gained and kept some hugely important midfielders in that transaction. No one should use this as an example.

Most recently, if one wishes to denigrate a coach based on mst recent form which this board loves to do, would be Man U really just totally physically dominating the Spurs on the ball and on 50/50 balls. They clearly wanted it more. Pogba physically outplayed Moussa Dembele, I would have never expected this as Dembele is having a fantastic year and may be one of the strongest midfielders on the ball in the world. He plays a hugely important role on Spurs and was out hustled and pushed around more than anytime this year.

Pooch did not have his team ready to compete.

[lefty]

Bruh
I'm a LOLgerian homer.
Nothing is going to change that :lol

[pgardn]

Bruh
I'm a LOLgerian homer.
Nothing is going to change that :lol

Oh shit...

Got it...
sorry.

[resistanze]

Phil Mourinho is getting exposed left and right. It's been downhill since Inter vs Barca tbh. He's just a whiny egomaniac now that throws players under the bus far too often and early.

:wakeup

[Brazil]

:wakeup

called it first tbh

[Brazil]

:lol yup

[resistanze]

https://twitter.com/James_Dart/status/1092463848957739008

[resistanze]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1092558098328416256
https://twitter.com/7Sport/status/1092564857906331649

:lmao

[pgardn]

The guy in the white jersey with the fake handshake that got Moe to fall.
Again, the red carpet fail.

[140]

:lmao WTF is up with this retard and falling in public :lmao

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Emery

[resistanze]

Emery

He's rated? I thought he's known as a decent Europa level club coach. Clearly the PSG gig being too big for him branded him as such forever tbh

[Hoops Czar]

Mourinho
Gaurdiola


:lol Mou is not overrated tbh

He is the one who found a way to break a great Barcelona team; sure he got manited in his 1st Clasico, but he adjusted and his players started to believe; he won La Liga when Barca was super scary

:lol Ancelloshit is overrated as fuck , Madrid won the CL with the team Mourinho built; Ancelloshit didn't win the CL, he got bailed out by Ramos in the last seconds

Pep and hipster phaggot Klopp are overrated though


5- guardiola
4- low
3 - prandelli
2 - wenger
1 - scolari


As Lefty been saying Gaurdiola is basically the Phil Jackson of soccer :lol (rode the coattails of Spanish Golden generation + Messi)..he inherited one of the greatest European teams in recent times and ended up massively underachieving outside the domestic leagues..he is really overrated on the tactical part when he has no Messi/Iniesta quality player to bail him out..his exposal is going to be more magnified with City...


:lol Pep Jackson


:lol Pep Jackson with 6 consecutive winless games for the 1st time
:lol it's not the same when you aren't coaching Barca or Bayern

Those were some good fails ... I mean times!

[lefty]

Those were some good fails ... I mean times!

Hey opinions change

Mou’s problem is that he can’t adjust

[DAF86]

We have to differentiate between overrated and past his prime, tbh.

[apalisoc_9]

Jose is a good coach tbh. Problem is hes a double edge sword. If he cant control the lockeroom, its a disaster. If he can control hes one of the better coaches out there.

[spursistan]

Hipster about to bottle another title :lol..

Liverpool were 7 points clear on January 2nd.

They are -1 on March 2nd.

If they don't win it this year, they are not winning it in the foreseeable future. I just don't think they will recover from this epic chokejob..

[spursistan]

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[spursistan]

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[apalisoc_9]

Kompany was slow in a few runs. Im surprised he was playing.

Llaporte was horrendous.

[FrostKing]

Bayern made back to back finals
Pep came the following season
In 3 attempts Bayern made 0 finals

City made a semi final
Pep came the following season
In 3 attempts City made 0 semis

[spursistan]

Bayern made back to back finals
Pep came the following season
In 3 attempts Bayern made 0 finals

City made a semi final
Pep came the following season
In 3 attempts City made 0 semis

His overrated ass ruined Bayern's chance at having a mini CL dynasty from 2012-2016..I honestly think if Heynckes continued as coach they would have won again in 2014 and 2016..

They were still clearly the best team in Europe both years..

[lefty]

I had Klopp as overrated, and yes he may be carried a little by Salah, but he has dramatically improved their defense

[apalisoc_9]

I had Klopp as overrated, and yes he may be carried a little by Salah, but he has dramatically improved their defense

In klopps defense, he built this liverpool team.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

In klopps defense, he built this liverpool team.

VVD was a great buy but I’m even more impressed with how cheap Robertson was and he’s one of the best LB’s in Europe.

[spursistan]

I had Klopp as overrated, and yes he may be carried a little by Salah, but he has dramatically improved their defense

I would take Klopp over Pepe Jackson anyday..He at least won a couple of Bundesliga against Bayern and a CL tie vs Madrid. He is not some zero-trophy hack like Sarri.

The real hipster is Tuchel. Somehow PSG managed to downgrade from Emery :lol..

[spursistan]

^^ Tuchel is really a fraud. PSG bottling the French Cup Final from 2-0 up with full squad (including Neymar) :lol..

I fully expect the German hipster to get sacked in the few days and the Qataris to make a panic, desperate move for Mourinho..

[tlongII]

Caleb Porter

[spursistan]

lefty (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) we need to strop the hipster slander, tbh..Dude is legit..:lol

[lefty]

lefty (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) we need to strop the hipster slander, tbh..Dude is legit..:lol

*Jurgen Klopp has left the chat*

[DAF86]

Valverde is the number one ranked coach on the World, tbh. Although everyone that knows shit ( Canyonero and me) knows Gallardo is the best.

I don't know how can Valverde survive another embarrassment like this, tbh. It is your responsability as a coach to have your players mentally engaged to not let mistakes of the past repeat themselves.

[Canyonero]

Valverde is the number one ranked coach on the World, tbh. Although everyone that knows shit ( Canyonero and me) knows Gallardo is the best.

I don't know how can Valverde survive another embarrassment like this, tbh. It is your responsability as a coach to have your players mentally engaged to not let mistakes of the past repeat themselves.

I'm afraid Bartomeu will call GallarGOD as soon as he arrives at Barcelona.

[spursistan]

Valverde is the number one ranked coach on the World, tbh. Although everyone that knows shit ( Canyonero (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49822) and me) knows Gallardo is the best.

I don't know how can Valverde survive another embarrassment like this, tbh. It is your responsability as a coach to have your players mentally engaged to not let mistakes of the past repeat themselves.


He was never rated, tbh..

This is the coach of FC Barcelona not some random message board poster trying to explain away last night :lol..

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[DAF86]

He was never rated, tbh..

This is the coach of FC Barcelona not some random message board poster trying to explain away last night :lol..

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He was rated by FIFA apparently, since they have him at 1.

[Hoops Czar]

1118625193935671297

Well, not even Steve Kerr and the Golden State Warriors could stop the refs from handing the Cleveland Cavaliers the championship in 2016. Let's see if Tottenham can finish the job.

Also, I'm surprised Pellegrini is getting credit for parking 10 men in the box for 90 minutes and waiting for the opponent to make a catastrophic mistake like a bottom of the table team who just won the European lottery to represent English football in champions league.

[resistanze]

Well, not even Steve Kerr and the Golden State Warriors could stop the refs from handing the Cleveland Cavaliers the championship in 2016. Let's see if Tottenham can finish the job.

Also, I'm surprised Pellegrini is getting credit for parking 10 men in the box for 90 minutes and waiting for the opponent to make a catastrophic mistake like a bottom of the table team who just won the European lottery to represent English football in champions league.

Don't be bitter, it's already been shown it wasn't a handball as per current rule. City should do better by not fucking up the first leg then allowing 3 goals to a shorthanded Spurs team at home tbh.

[Hoops Czar]

Don't be bitter, it's already been shown it wasn't a handball as per current rule. City should do better by not fucking up the first leg then allowing 3 goals to a shorthanded Spurs team at home tbh.
There's little doubt it was handball. No, that type of handball wouldn't have resulted in a penalty kick but the rule is pretty clear when it comes to balls being knocked in off the hands. The goal would not have stood if the bush league VAR assistant gave the head referee the behind the net view of the ball hitting the arm and bouncing off the thigh into the back of the net. The head ref had no choice but to award the goal based on the replays he was given. The point of VAR was to get the call right and in that given instance, it failed.

Sure, the first goal Ederson should have saved with ease, the second was a giveaway and the third was a handball. City's defense has never been their strong suit. The only reason they get so many clean sheets is because they have so much ball possession. In the first leg, Pep went with an out of for Mahrez and a seldom used Delph and they managed only one shot on goal. Pep tried to play it safe but he would bave been better off losing the game 2-1 or 3-2 than playing for a 0-0 draw or 1-0 win. Cityvshould do better but, at the end of the day, it came down to a handball goal that should have been disallowed.

[resistanze]

There's little doubt it was handball. No, that type of handball wouldn't have resulted in a penalty kick but the rule is pretty clear when it comes to balls being knocked in off the hands. The goal would not have stood if the bush league VAR assistant gave the head referee the behind the net view of the ball hitting the arm and bouncing off the thigh into the back of the net. The head ref had no choice but to award the goal based on the replays he was given. The point of VAR was to get the call right and in that given instance, it failed.
As posted before, this has been debunked HERE (http://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-champions-league/775/blog/post/3829001/explaining-the-var-drama-why-fernando-llorentes-goal-stood-as-spurs-eliminated-man-city).


Sure, the first goal Ederson should have saved with ease, the second was a giveaway and the third was a handball. City's defense has never been their strong suit. The only reason they get so many clean sheets is because they have so much ball possession. In the first leg, Pep went with an out of for Mahrez and a seldom used Delph and they managed only one shot on goal. Pep tried to play it safe but he would bave been better off losing the game 2-1 or 3-2 than playing for a 0-0 draw or 1-0 win. Cityvshould do better but, at the end of the day, it came down to a handball goal that should have been disallowed.
No for me - all of it mattered as you just mentioned. This is like the Rockets complaining about FTs they didn't get at the end of the game, not going 0-27 from three throughout. Pep continues to overthink things in CL for some strange reason. And City has a great defense...they don't give up goals. If that's due to possession...so be it.

How many times in the last 2 seasons have City given up 3 goals at home? I can only think of the CL matches vs Liverpool last year and vs Spurs this year. From someone that was hoping City would knock out Spurs...City can only blame themselves.

[Hoops Czar]

As posted before, this has been debunked HERE (http://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-champions-league/775/blog/post/3829001/explaining-the-var-drama-why-fernando-llorentes-goal-stood-as-spurs-eliminated-man-city).

Except the article is wrong. The arm wasn't by his side. It was in front of his body. The ball hit his forearm which was lying against his stomach, bounced off his thigh, not hip like the article claims and into the back of the net. I wouldn't have had a problem with the goal if the arm was by his side because the arm becomes part of the body. That's like saying Danny Rose shouldn't have been charged with a penalty on Raheem Sterling's shot in leg one because it was natural for the hand to come up slightly when a player goes to the ground to block a shot. It was purely accidental.


No for me - all of it mattered as you just mentioned. This is like the Rockets complaining about FTs they didn't get at the end of the game, not going 0-27 from three throughout. Pep continues to overthink things in CL for some strange reason. And City has a great defense...they don't give up goals. If that's due to possession...so be it.

How many times in the last 2 seasons have City given up 3 goals at home? I can only think of the CL matches vs Liverpool last year and vs Spurs this year. From someone that was hoping City would knock out Spurs...City can only blame themselves.

They only gave up two goals to Liverpool at home last year but when you average 70% possession in games, it doesn't leave many opportunities for your opponents to score. what they do well is winning the ball back after they lose it but it's hold your breathe time whenever an opponent breaks through the City press. Sometimes the best defense is to have a great offense. With that said, Laporte is shit, Otamendi is shit, and Stones is the closest thing to shit without actually being shit. Kyle walker isn't anything special either.

[lefty]

:lol Mourinho is awesome tbh

https://streamable.com/93sdt?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

[DAF86]

Will say this though. If Guardiola can implement his tiki-taka in England he should run circles around those dumb kick and run lovers, tbh.

B2b titles and counting.

[lefty]

B2b titles and counting.
Having the most stacked team helps tbh :lol

[spursistan]

Having the most stacked team helps tbh :lol
Acting like it is impressive..:lol

Sir Alex Ferguson won his last few titles with the likes of John Oshea, Fletcher, Park and a bunch of other plug-and-play nobodies..

[Bynumite]

1 billion pound budget, several CL choke jobs, open investigations for financial doping which might result in a 1 year ban from the CL :lol

FAP stroking his own cock :lol

[DAF86]

I couldn't give less of a fuck about Guardiola, tbh, but it's fair to give credit where credit is due.

City had millions and millions to spend way before Guardiola got there and they never were b2b champions before.

[Hoops Czar]

1 billion pound budget, several CL choke jobs, open investigations for financial doping which might result in a 1 year ban from the CL :lol

FAP stroking his own cock :lol

United has deeper pockets than City and with Pogba, Rashford, Lukaku, Sanchez, Martial and Lingard, they can't even beat the likes of relegated Huddersfield Town or Cardiff City. If the the season was 42 games instead of 38, they probably finish 7th behind wolves. Heck, they literally signed two City targets (Fred, Sanchez) to massive contracts just to play keep away not even knowing how to implement them into their own starting eleven.

What does the financial doping have to do with Guardiola? That's like blaming Luke Walton for the Lakers dysfunction.

[spursistan]

"It's the coach we want, it's a medium and long term project. He has a contract and we are very happy with him."
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Madrid and the rest of Europe are :lmao their asses off..

[lefty]

No coach can fix Messi’s choking tbh

[140]

No coach can fix Messi’s choking tbh