Here Comes Rita!

[Nbadan]

http://skeetobiteweather.com/archive/model/AL182005mlts.gif

Different color lines are different projected tracks from various weather centers. Historically the Nation Hurricane Center's (NHC - Light Blue) projections have been closest to actual path.

You remember those dry goods I told you about? maybe now's a good time to put together one of those home-disaster kits that the Homeland Security says we should have, just skip the plastic sheeting and duct-tape.

[Vashner]

Ok but Since Bush has not been blamed yet can we keep it out of politics.. at least till things go bad then Bush bashing will begin.

[Nbadan]

Hey, there's always the Global Warming angle and the Aministrations refusal to sign the Kotoyo Treaty. Keep your chin up Gipper.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

if that hits texas we're fucked

[exstatic]

We're not nearly as fucked as NO if that thing follows the yellow track...

[Dos]

Hey, there's always the Global Warming angle and the Aministrations refusal to sign the Kotoyo Treaty. Keep your chin up Gipper.

yeah clinton never signed it either.. bah!

[xrayzebra]

Hey, there's always the Global Warming angle and the Aministrations refusal to sign the Kotoyo Treaty. Keep your chin up Gipper.


Hey, Blair just shot it down also. And with Clinton standing on stage. :lol :lol :elephant :elephant

Here is the article Dan, so you don't have to try to say it ant so. Bye the
way no big named news ran the story. Wonder why?

Tony Blair Pulls the Plug on Kyoto at Clinton Summit

By James Pinkerton Published 09/16/2005


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NEW YORK - Kyoto Treaty RIP. That's not the headline in any newspaper this morning emerging from the first day of the Clinton Global Initiative, but it could have been -- and should have been.



Onstage with former president Bill Clinton at a midtown Manhattan hotel ballroom, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said he was going to speak with "brutal honesty" about Kyoto and global warming, and he did. And Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had some blunt talk, too.



Blair, a longtime supporter of the Kyoto treaty, further prefaced his remarks by noting, "My thinking has changed in the past three or four years." So what does he think now? "No country, he declared, "is going to cut its growth." That is, no country is going to allow the Kyoto treaty, or any other such global-warming treaty, to crimp -- some say cripple -- its economy.



Looking ahead to future climate-change negotiations, Blair said of such fast-growing countries as India and China, "They're not going to start negotiating another treaty like Kyoto." India and China, of course, weren't covered by Kyoto in the first place, which was one of the fatal flaws in the treaty. But now Blair is acknowledging the obvious: that after the current Kyoto treaty -- which the US never acceded to -- expires in 2012, there's not going to be another worldwide deal like it.



So what will happen instead? Blair answered: "What countries will do is work together to develop the science and technology….There is no way that we are going to tackle this problem unless we develop the science and technology to do it." Bingo! That's what eco-realists have been saying all along, of course -- that the only feasible way to deal with the issue of greenhouse gases and global warming is through technological breakthroughs, not draconian cutbacks.


Blair concluded with a rhetorical question-and-answer: "How do we move forward, post-Kyoto? It can only be done by the major players coming together and pooling their resources, to find their way to come together."



Interestingly, these words from Blair, addressing an audience of a thousand at the Sheraton just a few blocks north of Times Square, failed to get any pickup in the media. Even The New York Times, published just down the street, ran a story that dwelt on the star power in the room, including King Abdullah of Jordan, Jesse Jackson, and George Stephanopoulos. "Isn't this awesome?" said one participant, and those words seemed to reflect fully the Times' take on the event.



For its part The Washington Post offered this bland headline: "Clinton Gathers World Leaders Nonpartisan Conference Focuses on Global Improvement," making no mention of Blair's global warming remarks. As for TV coverage, there wasn't much of that either; on CNN Headline News, Christi Paul said, admiringly, "former President Clinton is still looking to get things done," noting that Clinton garnered "more than $200 million in pledges" to address world problems.



Ironically, some of those pledges concerned global warming. The 42nd President kicked off his wonky-glitzy extravaganza by announcing that the event would be "climate neutral." That is, the CGI -- or, more precisely, a couple of fatcats who ponied up money to get some onstage face time with Clinton -- would "offset" the CO2 produced by this event by "investing in renewable energy projects in Native American lands and in rural Nigerian villages." But such eco-pious symbolism aside, the real news of the conference so far has come from Blair.



The Prime Minister, has long been pushing, of course, for a binding international treaty on climate change. It's one part of the Eurolefty agenda he has traditionally kept faith with. In a policy-setting speech in September 2004, for example, he laid out an ambitious agenda, declaring that "Kyoto is only the first step but provides a solid foundation for the next stage of climate diplomacy."



Indeed, the widely held view was that Blair would "cash in" his geopolitical chits -- that is, those he gained with George W. Bush over his support for the Iraq war, in order to get the Texan to sign on to some form of Kyoto. But even before the Gleneagles G-8 summit in July, it seemed pretty clear that Bush was not going to go along with Blair's deal; in fact, Bush rebuffed Blair. Nonetheless, as recently as a September 4 op-ed in The Financial Times, Blair still sounded optimistic, declaring, "We made substantial progress on climate change at Gleneagles." But now Blair has buried Kyoto a little bit deeper. One of these days, the press will notice.



And there was some potentially significant news from Condi Rice, who was also onstage all this time, sitting with Clinton and Blair in an Oprah-like format. Speaking of world energy policy for the future, Rice said, "Nuclear power is going to have to be part of the mix." Imagine that -- nuclear power! That's been the Bush administration view all along, of course, but the W. folks haven't gotten very far in resuscitating the industry. Yet if Blair is starting to show realism on Kyoto, he and other leaders around the world will see that nukes have to be part of the energy solution.



Indeed, Rice added, "France generates something like 80 percent of its electricity from nuclear power." That's probably the first time in ages that a Bush administration official has had anything positive to say about France. Rice acknowledged "proliferation risks" from nuclear power, but made it a clear that something had to be done. "In the fast-developing world," she concluded, "we have to find a way to leverage all power [sources]."



For his part, Clinton was his usual self, declaring to Rice, "In general, I agree with you about that" -- without ever saying what he was agreeing with. And the 42nd President gave no reaction to Blair's provocative Kyoto revisionism.



In fact, nobody seems to have reacted to what Blair said. But that's OK. TCS readers have this significant scoop. And as for the rest of the world, it will soon understand that Blair has effectively pulled the plug on Kyoto.

[Hook Dem]

Here's a better one http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3862/at2005185day6lk.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Marcus Bryant]

So Bush is creating the hurricanes?

Crystal meth or blow?

[Useruser666]

How many feet below sea level is San Antonio?

[ObiwanGinobili]

We're not nearly as fucked as NO if that thing follows the yellow track...


that whole area is so devastated right now that Rita following any of those lines is gonna be kicking them when they are down.
3 in. of rain or more would be ugly in an allready saturated area......

[Vashner]

How many feet below sea level is San Antonio?
Above you mean.... This aint N.O.

[Hook Dem]

How many feet below sea level is San Antonio?
Just guessing......I would imagine about 60 or 70 feet. ABOVE!

[boutons]

Hook Dem's dumb-ass guessing is how he goes through his very short life.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ewx/html/cli/satcli.htm

[Vashner]

60? I am at 1050 feet in Bulverde

[Dos]

the rain from the storm would be the worst part, after all this is flash flood alley..

[Shelly]

San Antonio is 807 ft

[Hook Dem]

Hook Dem's dumb-ass guessing is how he goes through his very short life.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ewx/html/cli/satcli.htm
Very short life???? I'm 65...I doubt you will make it that far! :lol Crawl back in your hole Boutons......lillys are trying to bloom! :lol

[Cant_Be_Faded]

My chode will de-plode if that 'cane hits us!

[Nbadan]

Look at Manny pretending to be a hurricane expert in the Club and the chobes are buying into it!

:lol

Rita is going near Galveston. How do I know? Because I posted it in January.


but Gulf coastal cities won't be speared this time. Expect either New Orleans, Galveston-Houston, or some part of the Texas coast to suffer a major storm with major damage.

Spurs Talk (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8491)

[Nbadan]

Breeaking: Mayor Nagin Is Ending The Return To NOLA Because Of Rita

[Nbadan]

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/126121main_Katrina_082505_516.jpg

Katrina as a tropical storm

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WEATHER/09/19/tropical.weather/story.noaa.345a.mon.jpg

Tropical storm Rita Today

[Nbadan]

Contrary to Manny's beliefs, the water temperature is just right in the gulf for this thing to blow up...

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6973/map1uy.jpg

Rita is moving faster than Katrina which may stop if from developing into a CAT5, but a CAT4 or a strong CAT3 is definitely not out of the question because of water temperature in the Gulf.

[Nbadan]

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/refresh/AL1805W5_sm2+gif/084708W_sm.gif

Doesn't Rita look like a little fetus? must be because Texas is the decadence capital of the nation.

[Swishy McJackass]

It might be kinda cool to see it rain afterbirth... maybe a little sticky though...

[Nbadan]

Katrina...Opppss...Rita strengthens to a CAT2 as she enters Gulf...


Keys residents told to 'hunker down'

Tuesday, September 20, 2005; Posted: 1:36 p.m. EDT (17:36 GMT)

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Hurricane Rita strengthened to a Category 2 storm Tuesday as it pounded the Florida Keys with heavy rain and strong wind.

A reconnaissance aircraft measured maximum sustained winds of 100 mph. Category 2 storms have winds of 96-110 mph (154-177 kph).

At 11 a.m. ET, the storm was centered 75 miles (120 kilometers) southeast of Key West and 100 miles east-northeast of Havana, Cuba.

Rita was moving to the west at 15 mph (24 kph) , with hurricane-force winds extending out 30 miles (48 kilometers) from its center. The storm had been moving to the north-northwest.

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/20/rita/index.html)

If you live in the Texas Coastal region within 100 miles East and West of Galveston-Houston it may be time to start thinking of an evacuation plan.

[boutons]

"30 miles (48 kilometers) from its center. "

wasn't the number 100 mi for Katrina?
so far, a much smaller storm, but still young, and has a 1000 mi of hot water to cross before reaching the TX coast.

[Nbadan]

Katrina Upgraded to CAT3:

http://www.intellicast.com/WeatherImg/SatelliteLoop/hifloat5_None_anim.gif

[Nbadan]

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/557/09201445geostaten8dw.jpg

If your tired of amateur-hour meteorology, here is an excellent consolidation of hurricane tracking sites...

Crown Weather (http://www.crownweather.com/tropical.html#AL18)

[Nbadan]

Hurricane Rita
NHC Current Wind Projections

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9961/0920500windprojmap9pe.jpg

[Nbadan]

2 AM EDT WED SEP 21 2005

Hurricane Rita: Cat 3
Maximum Sustained Winds (MSW): 115
Wind Gusts To: 140
Moving Towards the West at near 14 MPH.
Estimated Minimum Central Pressure: 960 MB...28.35 Inches

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 45 miles from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 140 miles

==Discussion-Annotated==

Rita becomes fifth major hurricane of the 2005 season as it moves Westward away from the Florida Keys

NOAA NWC Winds Max Forecast:
36-48 hours - MWS: 145 mph / Gusts to: 180 mph - Strong CAT 4

Well defined and large hurricane eye formed. Rapid intensification for the next 24 hours appears to be on track. Projection Track Models move landfall more east now, back towards Galveston/Houston on the very powerful/destructive right side of the hurricane

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/9324/092103158goesspagproj5pl.jpg

[Nbadan]

Rutgers Sea Surface Temperatures:

http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/sat_data/?product=sst ®ion=gulfmexico¬humbs=0

NOAA National Data Bouy Center

Homepage: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov /

Hurr Rita NDBC Radial Reporting Sites: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?lat1=24.1N&l...

Excellent NOAA NDBC Bouy Links Gulf of Mexico Grid Map

http://www.weathermatrix.net/tropical/surface/interacti...

Katrina knocked out NOAA NDBC site grid south of New Orleans/Florida Panhandle. Luckly they got it back up except Bouy 42003, which is an important one.

You can learn a boatload about hurricanes watching the NOAA individual bouy reports. It's cool watching the "dirty side" of a hurricane run over a bouy marker and it keeps transmitting the entire time.

[Nbadan]

On another note:


The 3rd largest oil refinery in the US is in the path of Rita. It is a BP refinery in Texas City, Texas. The projected path is currently for Freeport. Texas City is really close by. There was a recent spike in prices after a fire there. Imagine this.

From The Wilderness (http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/032505_world_stories.shtml)

[Dos]

Texas is about to show the world how to evac from a CAT 4 hurricane..

pay attention Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin!!!

[Nbadan]

Here are the current projections for Hurricane Rita from the National Hurricane Center

http://www.crownweather.com/ritatrack.gif

http://www.crownweather.com/ritawind.gif

I expect that when this thing hits, Freeport will be just east of the storm taking the brunt of the hit.

[Nbadan]

Patterns for Hurricanes this season...

http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/images/at2005.gif

Like Katrina I expect that Rita will curve to the NE just before striking the Texas Coast. It saved New Orleans from a direct hit with Katrina, but puts cities like Freeport, Galvestan, and Houston more in the path of Rita.

[Nbadan]

Rita has max winds of 165!


CATEGORY 5 INTENSITY WITH ESTIMATED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED - 165MPH!!
DATA FROM RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT RITA HAS REACHED
CATEGORY FIVE INTENSITY WITH ESTIMATED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE
WINDS OF 165 MPH. THIS WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE 4 PM CDT ADVISORY

National Hurricane Center (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCUAT3+shtml/211955.shtml?)

[Nbadan]

Current Upper level winds that could be steering this monster

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8dlm1.GIF

[hussker]

This just in, Mayor Nagin suspends bus traffic in Galveston.

[Vashner]

http://home.satx.rr.com/krograth/images/sheehan01.jpg