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TheSanityAnnex
11-25-2015, 04:37 PM
Excellent article on "Ceasefire" and how it's worked to drastically reduce gun murders where they happen most often.

https://newrepublic.com/article/124445/beyond-gun-control

TheSanityAnnex
11-28-2015, 11:02 AM
Are you people too lazy to click a link or do you just not want to discuss actual ways to reduce gun violence because the reality is uncomfortable?



Mass shootings, unsurprisingly, drive the national debate on gun violence. But as horrific as these massacres are, by most counts they represent less than 1 percent of all gun homicides. America’s high rate of gun murders isn’t caused by events like Sandy Hook or the shootings this fall at a community college in Oregon. It’s fueled by a relentless drumbeat of deaths of black men.

Gun control advocates and politicians frequently cite the statistic that more than 30 Americans are murdered with guns every day. What’s rarely mentioned is that roughly 15 of the 30 are black men.
Avoiding that fact has consequences. Twenty years of government-funded research has shown there are several promising strategies to prevent murders of black men, including Ceasefire. They don’t require passing new gun laws, or an epic fight with the National Rifle Association. What they need—and often struggle to get—is political support and a bit of money.


To liberals, gun violence among African-Americans is rooted in economic disadvantage and inequality, as well as America’s gun culture and lax gun laws. Conservatives, meanwhile, often focus on black “culture.” “The problem is not our gun laws,” a member of The Wall Street Journal editorial board wrote last year (http://www.wsj.com/articles/political-diary-chicago-and-black-criminality-1404853317) about Chicago’s murder rate. “Nor is it our drug laws, or racist cops, prosecutors, and judges. The problem is black criminality, which is a function of black pathology, which ultimately stems from the breakdown of the black family.”
Lost in the debate is that even in high-crime cities, the risk of gun violence is mostly concentrated among a small number of men. In Oakland, for instance, crime experts working with the police department a few years ago found that about 1,000 active members of a few dozen street groups drove most homicides. That’s .3 percent of Oakland’s population. And even within this subgroup, risk fluctuated according to feuds and other beefs. In practical terms, the experts found that over a given stretch of several months only about 50 to 100 men are at the highest risk of shooting someone or getting shot.
Most of these men have criminal records. But it’s not drug deals or turf wars that drives most of the shootings.
Instead, the violence often starts with what seems to outsiders like trivial stuff—“a fight over a girlfriend, a couple of words, a dispute over a dice game,” said Vaughn Crandall, a senior strategist at the California Partnership for Safe Communities, which did the homicide analysis for Oakland.
Somebody gets shot. These are men who do not trust the police to keep them safe, so “they take matters into their own hands,” he said. It’s long-running feuds, Crandall said, that drive most murders in Oakland.
Men involved in these conflicts may want a safer life, but it’s hard for them to put their guns down. “The challenge is that there is no graceful way to bow out of the game,” said Reygan Harmon, the director of Oakland Police Department’s violence reduction program.

boutons_deux
11-28-2015, 12:00 PM
the article is about reducing gun murders of black men, NOT about restricting gun ownership in the first place, not about universal owner and gun registration, tracking.

Save a few black men's lives, but DON'T EVER touch gun industry profits.

why would black men, or black people, ever trust the police to protect them? the police are there, created to oppress, brutalize, murder blacks.

Winehole23
11-28-2015, 12:44 PM
hard to do, but seems worth doing

boutons_deux
11-28-2015, 12:57 PM
hard to do, but seems worth doing

takes money, to be blocked by Repugs, and takes lots of police time, reducing their times stuffing their quotas, and as if they gave a shit about black men's lives

Winehole23
11-28-2015, 01:11 PM
there's at least anecdotal evidence that some PDs do in the linked article. LE isn't a monolith, any more than the GOP or big business.

TheSanityAnnex
11-29-2015, 01:09 PM
hard to do, but seems worth doing
Lots of time, money, and dedication but it is proven to work. People like our President and boutons think a new gun control law will magically fix everything and ignore dealing with the root of gun violence.