Reports of Active Shooter at Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood Facility

[Splits]

I think they start by removing things like "mass murder" and "holocaust" from their position.

There are plenty of pro-lifers who take the position of trying to help pregnant women find supportive, alternative options to abortion.

They could also stop focusing on the providers, what they are doing is completely legal.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You can assume that everything I know I have posted already. That won't change the fact that you have pussed out and stonewalled for hours when all you had to say is "I can think of no plausible alternative at this time."

Go ahead -- say it.

"I can think of no plausible alternative at this time."

Just like that. It's that easy.

Give it a shot.

:cry why won't TSA speculate for me :cry

Your tantrum is amusing at least lol

[ChumpDumper]

I can think of no plausible alternative at this timelol

[TheSanityAnnex]

lol

Fabricating quotes is rather childish but not surprising during this meltdown.

This should keep you going for a few more hours.

I can think of many plausible alternatives but won't be sharing them as I don't want to speculate without having the facts.

Continue on with your tantrum, I'll check back in on you tomorrow dear.

[ChumpDumper]

:cry I can think of many plausible alternatives but won't be sharing them :cry:lol

Keep thinking.

[Aztecfan03]

chumpdumper getting his ass handed to him.

[Clipper Nation]

CupDumper getting BTFO as always. He's known as the forum cum rag for a reason.

[ChumpDumper]

chumpdumper getting his ass handed to him.


CupDumper getting BTFO as always. He's known as the forum cum rag for a reason.What are your alternative theories?

I don't expect you to answer -- you'll just get angry like TSA.

[boutons_deux]

Robert Dear vandalized Planned Parenthood clinic decades ago in South Carolina: ex-wife

Dear’s ex-wife Barbara Mescher Michaux, who resides in South Carolina where Dear once lived, told NBC News that more than 20 years ago he put glue in the locks of a Planned Parenthood clinic near where the couple was then living.

They were married from 1985 to 1993, according to NBC News.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/robert-dear-vandalized-planned-parenthood-clinic-decades-ago-in-south-carolina-ex-wife/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

TSA's reflexive defense of ANYBODY with a gun is as silly as ever.

[boutons_deux]

alternative options to abortion.

... which are ?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Robert Dear vandalized Planned Parenthood clinic decades ago in South Carolina: ex-wife

Dear’s ex-wife Barbara Mescher Michaux, who resides in South Carolina where Dear once lived, told NBC News that more than 20 years ago he put glue in the locks of a Planned Parenthood clinic near where the couple was then living.

They were married from 1985 to 1993, according to NBC News.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/robert-dear-vandalized-planned-parenthood-clinic-decades-ago-in-south-carolina-ex-wife/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

TSA's reflexive defense of ANYBODY with a gun is as silly as ever.




Find ONE SINGLE QUOTE of me defending this guy.

[boutons_deux]

Find ONE SINGLE QUOTE of me defending this guy.

you believe the confused bank robber defense, rather than the PP terrorist claim. If someone's gotta gun, he's got TSA heart.

[TheSanityAnnex]

you believe the confused bank robber defense, rather than the PP terrorist claim. If someone's gotta gun, he's got TSA heart.

Find ONE SINGLE QUOTE of me believing the confused bank robber defense, rather than the PP terrorist claim.

[Spurminator]

What proof is there that the shooting at PP is quantifiably related to Mike Huckabee's comments?

I don't recall suggesting they were directly related.

I'm saying leaders are fanning anger against Planned Parenthood with hyperbolic (and, since they continue to talk about the PP organ videos as if they were legitimate, dishonest) rhetoric.

[boutons_deux]

Christian Conservatives Scramble to Deny Stirring Up Violence with Their Incendiary Speech

It's one big "Who, me?" from the religious right after attacks like Colorado Springs

In what could be the greatest head-spinner of the season, Christianist Republicans, from presidential candidates and congressmen to Fox News anchors and sleazy video-splicers, are scrambling (http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/5-awful-gop-responses-planned-parenthood-shooting) to deny (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/dr.-carson-is-sorely-misinformed-pro-life-leaders-respond-to-ben-carsons-ch) that their words actually matter or have any real-world influence. We had nothing (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/29/gop-candidates-condemn-planned-parenthood-shooting-but-dismiss-link-to-antiabortion-rhetoric/) to do with any shooting rampage at Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs. Cough. Baby killers. Cough. Body parts for sale. Cough, cough.

To those of us on the outside, the relationship seems clear. Vicki Cowart, president of Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains, which was targeted in the CMP video hoax, has experienced the terrorizing first-hand. “We’ve seen an alarming increase in hateful rhetoric and smear campaigns against abortion providers and patients over the last few months. That environment breeds acts of violence.”

Even Ben Carson managed to briefly add up two plus two. “There’s no question the hateful rhetoric exacerbates the situation," he said on "Face the Nation."

But Laura Muzyka called Carson “sorely misinformed” and then, ironically, underscored his point (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/dr.-carson-is-sorely-misinformed-pro-life-leaders-respond-to-ben-carsons-ch) by tacking on some hateful lies of her own. "The only thing that's extreme is Planned Parenthood's desire to see abortion without restriction through all nine months of pregnancy while they capitalize off dismembering preborn children and parting them out for sale.”

She added that, “No one in the pro-life movement ever calls for violence in return." :lol

http://www.alternet.org/christian-conservatives-scramble-deny-stirring-violence-their-incendiary-speech?akid=13727.187590.zLWgQl&rd=1&src=newsletter1046632&t=4

[TheSanityAnnex]

you believe the confused bank robber defense, rather than the PP terrorist claim. If someone's gotta gun, he's got TSA heart.

Find ONE SINGLE QUOTE of me defending this guy.

Find ONE SINGLE QUOTE of me believing the confused bank robber defense, rather than the PP terrorist claim.

[Kim Jong-il]

chumpdumper getting his ass handed to him.


CupDumper getting BTFO as always. He's known as the forum cum rag for a reason.
:lol you can always tell when CD is winning an argument, a handful of haters will chime in with the "CD losing again!" posts to reassure everybody about how things are going.

[Trill Clinton]

#bluelivesmatter been quieter than a mouse pissin' on cotton

671877762102272000

[Aztecfan03]

:lol you can always tell when CD is winning an argument, a handful of haters will chime in with the "CD losing again!" posts to reassure everybody about how things are going.
Aparrently you and chump have both never learned reading comprehension.

[Kim Jong-il]

#bluelivesmatter been quieter than a mouse pissin' on cotton

671877762102272000
Why does BLM feel the need to make every news story all about them? They bitched about the Paris shooting, bitching about this, and any other random news story that has nothing to do with them.

"Billy Bob Thornton to be on Dancing With The Stars this season"
":cry Eric Garner would have been the contestant if not for being murdered by police :cry #replacebillybob"

[Kim Jong-il]

Aparrently you and chump have both never learned reading comprehension.
You do what you gotta do to convince yourself.

[Trill Clinton]

Why does BLM feel the need to make every news story all about them? They bitched about the Paris shooting, bitching about this, and any other random news story that has nothing to do with them.

"Billy Bob Thornton to be on Dancing With The Stars this season"
":cry Eric Garner would have been the contestant if not for being murdered by police :cry #replacebillybob"

that's a reach.

[ChumpDumper]

Aparrently you and chump have both never learned reading comprehension.What are we missing?

[RandomGuy]

Well I for one, will not take any chances.

We must stop all migration from North Carolina.

I know Governor Abbott will do the right thing.

I want some concrete guarantees that the immigrants from North Carolina aren't terrorists.

[RandomGuy]

Dems use the same tactics. The problem with the false equivalency argument is it draws a thin/blurry and subjective line between what is acceptable inflammatory rhetoric and what isn't. Instead of picking and choosing what is and isn't acceptable rhetoric based entirely on one's opinion, why not just go after the entire fear-mongering/pandering system that both these parties play?

Sorry, one party does far more in the fear/hate mongering, and that by a long way in any objective measurement.

You talk about "false equivalency", then paint both parties as somehow equally culpable of fear-mongering/pandering.

Answer this:

how do you know that?

[mingus]

Sorry, one party does far more in the fear/hate mongering, and that by a long way in any objective measurement.

You talk about "false equivalency", then paint both parties as somehow equally culpable of fear-mongering/pandering.

Answer this:

how do you know that?

As I said, I'm not going to get into a which is worse argument. To me, it's stupid. Mass distortions of the other sides perspective is partaken by both, and it is therefore enabled by both. I'm not going to get into who's slinging a bigger pile of mud. You wanna have a discussion about that, then do it with someone else.

[TeyshaBlue]

:cry. But they do it more! :cry

Know what you get when you drop a teaspoon of sewage into to a barrel of fine wine?

A barrel of sewage. :rolleyes

[Winehole23]

So is there anyway to speak out against Planned Parenthood without inciting violence?short of highly contrived, inflammatory lies? certainly.

is that what we're talking about in this thread?

[RandomGuy]

As I said, I'm not going to get into a which is worse argument. To me, it's stupid. Mass distortions of the other sides perspective is partaken by both, and it is therefore enabled by both. I'm not going to get into who's slinging a bigger pile of mud. You wanna have a discussion about that, then do it with someone else.

I didn't ask you to change any opinion, I merely asked how do you know both parties fear monger?

I hear this all the time by people who think that the two parties are somehow equivalent, I just don't get it.

[mingus]

I didn't ask you to change any opinion, I merely asked how do you know both parties fear monger?

I hear this all the time by people who think that the two parties are somehow equivalent, I just don't get it.

If you need me to explain how the Left fear mongers, then there's really no point. Waste of time if we can't agree on something which is to me pretty obvious.

[boutons_deux]

"explain how the Left fear mongers"

... please do.

"it goes without saying" is bullshit.

[SpursforSix]

"explain how the Left fear mongers"

... please do.

"it goes without saying" is bullshit.




did you levels come down enough to be able to post today without an erection?

[spurraider21]

"explain how the Left fear mongers"

... please do.

"it goes without saying" is bullshit.



the police are out to getcha!

we're going to run out of fossil fuels by 2000!
we're going to run out of fossil fuels by 2010!
we're going to run out of fossil fuels by 2020!

[boutons_deux]

the police are out to getcha!

You Lie. That's not left wing fear mongering, it's lots of people observing that blacks are murdered, brutalized, prosecuted, imprisoned by the police more than any others.

Also, police enriching themselves by stealing your stuff through civil forfeiture isn't fear mongering, it's a fact.

[spurraider21]

You Lie. That's not left wing fear mongering, it's lots of people observing that blacks are murdered, brutalized, prosecuted, imprisoned by the police more than any others.

Also, police enriching themselves by stealing your stuff through civil forfeiture isn't fear mongering, it's a fact.
that's like saying

You Lie. That's not the right fear-mongering. That's people observing radical muslims killing people all over the world and now in the US

[boutons_deux]

that's like saying

You Lie. That's not the right fear-mongering. That's people observing radical muslims killing people all over the world and now in the US

how many Americans killed in the USA my Muslim terrorists?

[spurraider21]

how many Americans killed in the USA my Muslim terrorists?
well over 3000

any other stupid questions?

[TheSanityAnnex]

my Muslim terrorists?freudian slip

[boutons_deux]

well over 3000

any other stupid questions?

WTC doesn't count. That was an act of war, not terrorism. OBL striking back at USA for occupying Saudi Arabia.

Americans kill an average of 90 Americans EVERY DAY with guns.

I read an article that said we should build a wall around N and S Carolina, since several mass killers killed there or came from there.

[spurraider21]

WTC doesn't count. That was an act of war, not terrorism. OBL striking back at USA for occupying Saudi Arabia.

Americans kill an average of 90 Americans EVERY DAY with guns.

I read an article that said we should build a wall around N and S Carolina, since several mass killers killed there or came from there.
:lmao

[RandomGuy]

If you need me to explain how the Left fear mongers, then there's really no point. Waste of time if we can't agree on something which is to me pretty obvious.

(shrugs)

If it is obvious then it should be easy to explain. I just don't see the sheer volume of vitriol out of the Dems that I see coming out of the Fox "news" industrial complex.

I am willing to consider anything new, but just simply don't understand the viewpoint is all. A bit of explanation is all I am asking for here.

[RandomGuy]

the police are out to getcha!

we're going to run out of fossil fuels by 2000!
we're going to run out of fossil fuels by 2010!
we're going to run out of fossil fuels by 2020!

I don't think those are particularly "left" or "right" viewpoints.

[boutons_deux]

:lmao

The Terrorists Among Us

Forget Syria. The most dangerous religious extremists are migrants from North and South Carolina.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/robert_lewis_dear_is_one_of_many_religious_extremi sts_bred_in_north_carolina.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/robert_lewis_dear_is_one_of_many_religious_extremi sts_bred_in_north_carolina.html)

[spurraider21]

I don't think those are particularly "left" or "right" viewpoints.
they're left

[boutons_deux]

they're left

we're past the peak of easy oil, so the predictions were correct.

Or go tell BigOil where they can find easy oil so they don't go drill the Arctic, or 5 miles down in the ocean, or chase after the Red Queen of fracking.

AGW is a hoax is VRWC/BigCarbon propaganda, and extremely dangerous.

[boutons_deux]

Fox 5 DC Reporter Emily Miller Dismisses Planned Parenthood Shooting As A "One-Off" Occurrence


http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2015/02/26/millerfoxandfriends.jpg


http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/12/03/fox-5-dc-reporter-emily-miller-dismisses-planne/207230

[spurraider21]

we're past the peak of easy oil, so the predictions were correct.

Or go tell BigOil where they can find easy oil so they don't go drill the Arctic, or 5 miles down in the ocean, or chase after the Red Queen of fracking.

AGW is a hoax is VRWC/BigCarbon propaganda, and extremely dangerous.
i never called it a hoax. i'm just saying those are positions of the left, and i do believe there is some fear mongering due to the excess alarmism

[mingus]

(shrugs)

If it is obvious then it should be easy to explain. I just don't see the sheer volume of vitriol out of the Dems that I see coming out of the Fox "news" industrial complex.

I am willing to consider anything new, but just simply don't understand the viewpoint is all. A bit of explanation is all I am asking for here.

That it's so obvious is precisely my point. It shouldn't need to be explained, any attempts I make to explain aren't anything you haven't heard or seen. It's not about me telling you something you don't already know. It's your bias & ignorance, and I can't help you there. So this is dumb to me.

Have a good one, I'm done here.

[ChumpDumper]

That it's so obvious is precisely my point. It shouldn't need to be explained.

Have a good one, I'm done here.Cop out.

[mingus]

Cop out.

Ok.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok.It's just an admission you really can't produce any examples.

[TeyshaBlue]

(shrugs)

If it is obvious then it should be easy to explain. I just don't see the sheer volume of vitriol out of the Dems that I see coming out of the Fox "news" industrial complex.

I am willing to consider anything new, but just simply don't understand the viewpoint is all. A bit of explanation is all I am asking for here.

Really? The internet is too hard!

Pick a moonbat blog.... Read the comments. Throw up. Rinse, repeat.

[mingus]

It's just an admission you really can't produce any examples.

Ok.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok.You had and still have all the time in the world to post examples. It's not like you left the thread or anything.

[mingus]

You had and still have all the time in the world to post examples. It's not like you left the thread or anything.

Ok.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok.And here you still are.

Why not just post an example?

[mingus]

And here you still are.

Why not just post an example?

I'm still here because I generally don't ignore people. It's got nothing to do with you or the topic at hand. Usually, by now, people (decent people) would respect that, and move on. But, you can't seem to. Maybe you're not capable of letting go, and that's a character flaw. Maybe I should ignore you for your sake. You tell me.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm still here because I generally don't ignore people. It's got nothing to do with you or the topic at hand. Usually, by now, people (decent people) would respect that, and move on. But, you can't seem to. Maybe you're not capable of letting go, and that's a character flaw. Maybe I should ignore you for your sake. You tell me.OK, I'll tell you you should just post an example.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm still here because I generally don't ignore people. It's got nothing to do with you or the topic at hand. Usually, by now, people (decent people) would respect that, and move on. But, you can't seem to. Maybe you're not capable of letting go, and that's a character flaw. Maybe I should ignore you for your sake. You tell me.

If you think it is a character flaw then why are you doing it? Seems self-destructive.

[mingus]

OK, I'll tell you you should just post an example.

What'd Einstein say about insanity? That it's doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result? You're either that or have no decency. Which is it? Are you insane or a perpetual pesterer?

I've given you a chance to prove you're neither.

And, now, I can leave confidently knowing that I've given you that chance.

[ChumpDumper]

What'd Einstein say about insanity? That it's doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result? You're either that or have no decency. Which is it? Are you insane or a perpetual pesterer?

I've given you a chance to prove you're neither.

And, now, I can leave confidently knowing that I've given you that chance.
I never expected you to answer.

I'm quite confident you couldn't follow through at all.

People do this all the time here. They get over their skis, are called on it and rely on a steady stream of insults to try to distract from the fact they just got caught.

It's OK. It's just funny how much work people like you put in to deflecting when you could have quickly written a couple of sentences in response to what was asked of you.

I guess you can pretend that's not what happened here. I won't take your insult attempts personally.

[RandomGuy]

That it's so obvious is precisely my point. It shouldn't need to be explained, any attempts I make to explain aren't anything you haven't heard or seen. It's not about me telling you something you don't already know. It's your bias & ignorance, and I can't help you there. So this is dumb to me.

Have a good one, I'm done here.

So, it really isn't "obvious". If it were, justifying it would be a matter of stating or explaining it in a few sentences, which is all I was curious about.

If what you believed were really justified, it shouldn't be so hard to explain. That you had to throw a hissy fit and stomp off and pout says that you probably know you can't justify it.

I find that lazy, which seems to be a common trait on message boards. People like to avoid the real work of thinking, so they have all sorts of excuses why they won't do it, and continue weak-ass rationalizations even after their laziness has been pointed out to them.

Are you always this lazy, or is this the only thing you are lazy about?

[RandomGuy]

Really? The internet is too hard!

Pick a moonbat blog.... Read the comments. Throw up. Rinse, repeat.

The problem there is that the "fringe" on the left is not nearly as vocal, nor does the left really have a "thought leader" news outlet like fox news, with talking points handed out then dutifully repeated ad nauseum.

I won't claim there aren't nutters on the left, it is just that they aren't the ones that have stormed the battlements and taken over the party, ref: tea party.

The two sides are far from equivalent in that regard. There is still a modicum of sanity guiding most Democratic politics.

[RandomGuy]

I never expected you to answer.

I'm quite confident you couldn't follow through at all.

People do this all the time here. They get over their skis, are called on it and rely on a steady stream of insults to try to distract from the fact they just got caught.

It's OK. It's just funny how much work people like you put in to deflecting when you could have quickly written a couple of sentences in response to what was asked of you.

I guess you can pretend that's not what happened here. I won't take your insult attempts personally.

I swear I typed my response before reading this. Funny.

[DarrinS]

The problem there is that the "fringe" on the left is not nearly as vocal, nor does the left really have a "thought leader" news outlet like fox news, with talking points handed out then dutifully repeated ad nauseum.

I won't claim there aren't nutters on the left, it is just that they aren't the ones that have stormed the battlements and taken over the party, ref: tea party.

The two sides are far from equivalent in that regard. There is still a modicum of sanity guiding most Democratic politics.


We understand -- Blue team is rational, thoughtful, etc., Red team is craycray

Thanks :tu

[pgardn]

The baby parts stuff was totally irresponsible IMO. But they have every right to complain about Planned Parenthood without being labeled as fueling the deep desires of every anti choice, antiabortion zealot. When these claims are made haphazardly, then any disagreements on almost any subject can be linked to some zealot.

The passion in this debate runs deeper because there really are people that think humans are being killed. You have to understand this even if you know the mother's rights are possibly trampled, and the killing extends to rape, incest and life of the mother via complications. There are inconsistencies. People are passionate about this.

Now there are also people passionate about the death penalty. We might ask why these opponents are not attacking State Facilities where the penalty is being carried out. But immediately Blaming discussion of issues is dangerous IMO. Pointing out intentionally exacerbating violent behavior is not. Beware if you are disingenuously linking speech to a behavior.

Boots you get an automatic exemption as a zealot. You can't be stopped, either can Cluttered Notions. This is a law of the Universe...Allegedly...


short of highly contrived, inflammatory lies? certainly.

is that what we're talking about in this thread?

If you read the post above you will note my concern.

[boutons_deux]

We uBlue team is rational, thoughtful, etc., Red team is craycray

you got it. thanks for having dropped the hilariously false equivalence.

[TeyshaBlue]

The problem there is that the "fringe" on the left is not nearly as vocal, nor does the left really have a "thought leader" news outlet like fox news, with talking points handed out then dutifully repeated ad nauseum.
I won't claim there aren't nutters on the left, it is just that they aren't the ones that have stormed the battlements and taken over the party, ref: tea party.
The two sides are far from equivalent in that regard. There is still a modicum of sanity guiding most Democratic politics.
Still wagging around the myth of equivalency teddy bear?
Is there an propaganda index you're using to assign these, thus far, purely arbitrary statements of dominance...storming of battlements (sweet fear mongering reference! +10) et al?
Of course not.
What you fail to see while you're busy pandering to your cognitive bias is.....it doesn't fucking matter who did it first or who you *think* did it most. What matters is it's being done by politicians, period.
50 years from now, we'll read about the rise of neo-liberalism as both parties become virtually indistinguishable in actions...presenting and promoting wedge issues to campaign on and distract as they continue to fill their wallets and the wallets of their corporate sponsors while the electorate is left to argue the issue du jour.
Sure, there will always be the Puritan left as a token to those not beholden to the corporate nipple. They are a necessary sop who will never be allowed to gain serious traction against an establishment hack.....see Sanders v Clinton.
But, ignore this and clutch your equivalency teddy bear nice and tight.

[TeyshaBlue]

And get off my fucking lawn!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Still wagging around the myth of equivalency teddy bear?
Is there an propaganda index you're using to assign these, thus far, purely arbitrary statements of dominance...storming of battlements (sweet fear mongering reference! +10) et al?
Of course not.
What you fail to see while you're busy pandering to your cognitive bias is.....it doesn't fucking matter who did it first or who you *think* did it most. What matters is it's being done by politicians, period.
50 years from now, we'll read about the rise of neo-liberalism as both parties become virtually indistinguishable in actions...presenting and promoting wedge issues to campaign on and distract as they continue to fill their wallets and the wallets of their corporate sponsors while the electorate is left to argue the issue du jour.
Sure, there will always be the Puritan left as a token to those not beholden to the corporate nipple. They are a necessary sop who will never be allowed to gain serious traction against an establishment hack.....see Sanders v Clinton.
But, ignore this and clutch your equivalency teddy bear nice and tight.

Right wrong or indifferent the GOP has Roger Ailes and Clearchannel and they paint a pretty constant narrative of bullshit that there is no clear analog to on the other side. People like to rail against MSNBC but the last time I checked Bill Gates wasn't DNC leadership. I think he's right to hang his hat on the false equivalence because the two machines are not nearly the same.

[TeyshaBlue]

That's the thing. They don't have to be and I've yet to encounter anything resembling a metric of effectiveness/efficiency.

[Aztecfan03]

The problem there is that the "fringe" on the left is not nearly as vocal, nor does the left really have a "thought leader" news outlet like fox news, with talking points handed out then dutifully repeated ad nauseum.

I won't claim there aren't nutters on the left, it is just that they aren't the ones that have stormed the battlements and taken over the party, ref: tea party.

The two sides are far from equivalent in that regard. There is still a modicum of sanity guiding most Democratic politics.
:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Roger Ailes and Fox Repug propaganda network?

Alex Jones?

Glenn Beck?

Michael Savage?

Limbaugh?

Cato?

US CoC?

AEI?

ALEC?

Breitbart?

10s, 100s? of other right wing, paranoid, fear mongering, FUDs-spewing VRWC hate radio, media?

Heritage/Dement?

Every fucking Klown in the Repug Klown Kar?

cosplay patriots?

NRA, GOA?

Hilarious that you rightwingnut assholes ONLY "defense" :lol is that the Dems are JUST AS BAD as your team :lol

:lol :lol :lol

TB :lol

There is NO COMPARISON, False FUCKING Equivalence.

[TeyshaBlue]

GFY. The adults are talking, fuckpoodle.

Equivalency is irrelevant.

[boutons_deux]

GFY. The adults are talking, fuckpoodle.

Equivalency is irrelevant.

... you're peddling equivalency to defend your rightwing assholes, dickless

[TeyshaBlue]

No. I'm staying that equivalency is irrelevant. Get an adult to read this to you, fucking imbecile.

[boutons_deux]

No. I'm staying that equivalency is irrelevant. Get an adult to read this to you, fucking imbecile.

lefty "moonbat blogs" are just as bad as the entire assholes I listed above. :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

Measure it
Oh you can't.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's the thing. They don't have to be and I've yet to encounter anything resembling a metric of effectiveness/efficiency.

Sure and I am not saying that one is inherently better than the other particularly when it comes to any particular candidate or person. I still acknowledge that one party tries to play thought police through major media and otherwise use dystopian tactics and the other doesn't. Roger Ailes founded Fox News and has a permanent RNC position. I cannot believe it just gets a pass.

They have that apparatus trained to teach their shit is fair and balanced while literally every other major carrier is independent of the political parties. Their coverage is very obviously intent on furthering the interests of the benefactor. Their talking heads are perpetually demonizing all other television media terming it M$M.

I don't like the dems for different reasons but the GOP is pretty fucked up. The only other country like that is Italy and of course Russia and I hate that comparison. They are known for corrupt and mismanaged governance.

[TeyshaBlue]

I agree with your position on Fox. ... Always have. How powerful are they? Measure it.

[TeyshaBlue]

Never mind, Fuzzy. It's just not relevant to the larger picture.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I agree with your position on Fox. ... Always have. How powerful are they? Measure it.

I think the better question is where would the GOP stand in the electorate without gerrymandering and their newscorp?

I also think it's central to the polarization of politics on a personal level which I think is highlighted pretty clearly in this forum. You can see it's influence on quite a few people that post here as they parrot the divisive takes and methods. The station was founded in 96 which just so happens to be the year of the Republican revolution. They celebritized people like newt Gingrich, a decidedly corrupt motherfucker. The dems and that machine joined forces to dismantle the banking regulatory system.

You think Bush wins both times without that?

It might be all the difference in the world and either way it is a direct and obvious conflict of interest. You don't need to measure it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Never mind, Fuzzy. It's just not relevant to the larger picture.

:lol too late Fox news is a blight on democracy.

[TeyshaBlue]

:lol

[TeyshaBlue]

I think the better question is where would the GOP stand in the electorate without gerrymandering and their newscorp?

I also think it's central to the polarization of politics on a personal level which I think is highlighted pretty clearly in this forum. You can see it's influence on quite a few people that post here as they parrot the divisive takes and methods. The station was founded in 96 which just so happens to be the year of the Republican revolution. They celebritized people like newt Gingrich, a decidedly corrupt motherfucker. The dems and that machine joined forces to dismantle the banking regulatory system.

You think Bush wins both times without that?

It might be all the difference in the world and either way it is a direct and obvious conflict of interest. You don't need to measure it.

In response to your first question, gerrymandering is the droid you're looking for. Fox didn't take down CNN until 02 or 03.
Polarization is a ploy of nascent neo-liberalism and currently serves both "parties".

[TeyshaBlue]

By the way, I enjoy the give and take with you. You use complete sentences. Refreshing. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

In response to your first question, gerrymandering is the droid you're looking for. Fox didn't take down CNN until 02 or 03.
Polarization is a ploy of nascent neo-liberalism and currently serves both "parties".

Is pew neo-liberalism?


Republicans and Democrats are more divided along ideological lines – and partisan antipathy is deeper and more extensive – than at any point in the last two decades. These trends manifest themselves in myriad ways, both in politics and in everyday life. And a new survey of 10,000 adults nationwide finds that these divisions are greatest among those who are the most engaged and active in the political process.

http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/12/political-polarization-in-the-american-public/

I got that take from them.

[boutons_deux]

excess alarmism

Due to the horrendous consequences, smart people prefer to err on the side of caution, on the side scientific consensus.

otoh, You People have been demagogued by BigCarbon and it political/scientific whores into ignorant recklessness that is a much bigger threat to civilization than religious fundamentalism.

[spurraider21]

Due to the horrendous consequences, smart prefer to err on the side of caution, on the side scientific consensus.

otoh, You People have been demagogued by BigCarbon and it political/scientific whores into ignorant recklessness that is a much bigger threat to civilization than religious fundamentalism.
and those horrendous consequences have been overstated and overdramatized... which has only hurt its cause

[boutons_deux]

and those horrendous consequences have been overstated and overdramatized... which has only hurt its cause

that's in your opinion, the SCIENTIFIC FACTS say otherwise.

[RandomGuy]

Still wagging around the myth of equivalency teddy bear?
Is there an propaganda index you're using to assign these, thus far, purely arbitrary statements of dominance...storming of battlements (sweet fear mongering reference! +10) et al?
Of course not.
What you fail to see while you're busy pandering to your cognitive bias is.....it doesn't fucking matter who did it first or who you *think* did it most. What matters is it's being done by politicians, period.
50 years from now, we'll read about the rise of neo-liberalism as both parties become virtually indistinguishable in actions...presenting and promoting wedge issues to campaign on and distract as they continue to fill their wallets and the wallets of their corporate sponsors while the electorate is left to argue the issue du jour.
Sure, there will always be the Puritan left as a token to those not beholden to the corporate nipple. They are a necessary sop who will never be allowed to gain serious traction against an establishment hack.....see Sanders v Clinton.
But, ignore this and clutch your equivalency teddy bear nice and tight.

(puzzled) Not sure what you are getting at here. What do you mean by "myth of equivalency"?

[spurraider21]

that's in your opinion, the SCIENTIFIC FACTS say otherwise.
Like the fact that we were going to run out of fossil fuels by 2000?

[ChumpDumper]

I am guilty there will be no trial. I am a warrior for the babies.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/12/09/planned-parenthood-attack-suspect-i-am-guilty/

So.....terrorist?

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/12/09/planned-parenthood-attack-suspect-i-am-guilty/

So.....terrorist?

Yes terrorism, and don't forget workplace violence as well.

[spurraider21]

Yes terrorism, and don't forget workplace violence as well.
did Dear work at planned parenthood?

[ChumpDumper]

Yes terrorism, and don't forget workplace violence as well.


did Dear work at planned parenthood?Good question.

Dude won't answer it.

[boutons_deux]

This Is What the Alleged Planned Parenthood Shooter Shouted in Court


http://www.motherjones.com/files/imagecache/top-of-content-main/robertlewisdear-630.jpg


"I am a warrior for the babies," he shouted

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/12/what-alleged-planned-parenthood-shooter-shouted-court

[TheSanityAnnex]

did Dear work at planned parenthood?
No. And?

[spurraider21]

No. And?
that's sort of a big deal when you call something workplace violence

[TheSanityAnnex]

that's sort of a big deal when you call something workplace violence

Was it at a place of work?

[TeyshaBlue]

The twin towers were workplaces. It wasn't workplace violence.

[pgardn]

that's sort of a big deal when you call something workplace violence

Yeah.

Kinda tha point.

Wow...

[TheSanityAnnex]

Some people need to read up on the actual definition of workplace violence