Spurs > Warriors

[sexinthatsx]

After watching the Warriors almost losing to the Jazz yesterday, it's clear that Warriors have trouble defending teams that pass a lot, but are way better on defense with hyper isolation heavy teams. I hope the media continues to suck the Warriors off so the Spurs keep flying low on the radar until playoffs time comes around.

[Nathan89]

Warriors have an injury. What did the fully healthy Spurs loss teach you?

[Brian Windhorst]

Warriors have an injury. What did the fully healthy Spurs loss teach you?

That the Spurs can't dominate a playoff team on the road when only two players on the team can hit the broad side of a barn. Huge takeaway in late November tbh.

[cd98]

Spurs aren't better than GSW right now. Maybe by the end of the year.

[lilbthebasedgod]

lol

[TXstbobcat]

This argument will be settled in the playoffs.

[Stevie Johnson]

:lmao What a shitty fucking thread.


"Hey you all remember that one meaningless game back in the spring last year? The Warriors totally got owned hahahahaha Warriors are pretenders and will never win with this group of players!"

[afireinside20]

Spurs will put them in they're place come playoff time. Spurs are the Warriors' kryptonite.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

:lmao What a shitty fucking thread.


"Hey you all remember that one meaningless game back in the spring last year? The Warriors totally got owned hahahahaha Warriors are pretenders and will never win with this group of players!"

This wreaks of insecurity

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Spurs will put them in they're place come playoff time. Spurs are the Warriors' kryptonite.

Yup

[HarlemHeat37]

Spurs aren't as good as their record, right now, tbh..

[ElNono]

Spurs aren't as good as their record, right now, tbh..

Maybe, but the league overall is really down right now, with very few exceptions...

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Spurs aren't as good as their record, right now, tbh..

Disagree

[cjw]

Disagree

Right. As I mentioned in other thread, 13 of 14 wins by at least 8 and weren't in doubt down stretch (only Dallas was; Boston and Philly closer until about 5 minutes left). 3 of 4 losses, Spurs had chance to win down stretch. So could easily be anywhere from 17-1 to 13-5.

Meanwhile, GS's had games that came down to the wire against the Clippers (x2), Utah, Toronto and Brooklyn but managed to win them all. Better execution for sure, but also some luck to go 5 for 5 vs. Spurs 1 for 4.

[ElNono]

Right. As I mentioned in other thread, 13 of 14 wins by at least 8 and weren't in doubt down stretch (only Dallas was; Boston and Philly closer until about 5 minutes left). 3 of 4 losses, Spurs had chance to win down stretch. So could easily be anywhere from 17-1 to 13-5.

Meanwhile, GS's had games that came down to the wire against the Clippers (x2), Utah, Toronto and Brooklyn but managed to win them all. Better execution for sure, but also some luck to go 5 for 5 vs. Spurs 1 for 4.

You're forgetting that we had a fairly friendly schedule to start the season. But even then, a bunch of teams that a priori looked like heavyweights have played poor basketball so far (WC Finalists Rockets being the extreme case)

[Darius Bieber]

Spurs couldn't beat the Nets, Wizards, Bulls or OKC....... Not better than Warriors by any means. Spurfans premature cockiness is showing..

[Hoops Czar]

Maybe, but the league overall is really down right now, with very few exceptions...

The lack of depth and 3pt shooting might be the death of the Spurs. KA is a complete 0 at the nba level. He has nothing to offer the Spurs at this point in time. Paddy is worthless if he can't knockdown open shots. Butler can't shoot to save his life. Green can't shoot to save Butler's life. West's defense is appalling. Diaw's defense is less than appalling but still underwhelming and his offense has been very suspect. Manu is night and day on the court. Some days, he's great and other times, he's terrible. It's pretty damning when the de facto back up PG has a bad game because the Spurs don't have another option other than a seldom used 3rd stringer who has no business being on the floor in a tight game.

[Neurosis]

As a team I don't think we're better than the Warriors. However I think we match up against them better than some other teams. I'm always worried about how we matchup against great athletic teams as opposed to great shooting teams.

If GSW beat us in the playoffs it's not because we matchup badly, they'll literally just have to outshoot our defense. If we make shots tough for them we have a real chance.

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs couldn't beat the Nets, Wizards, Bulls or OKC....... Not better than Warriors by any means. Spurfans premature cockiness is showing..

They beat the Nets.

[AFMadison]

Last I heard it doesn't matter how well you play until it matters.

[Hoops Czar]

Last I heard it doesn't matter how well you play until it matters.

I heard that all last season until it became the final day of the regular season and the Spurs dropped from the 2nd seed to the 6th seed. Since then, you haven't heard too much talk about meaningless regular season games.

[AFMadison]

So the more we bitch, the less likely we are to lose?
Spurs are in a good spot. I'm impressed with how well we've done compared to how shitty we look. All we can do is sit back and watch

[SequSpur]

Smoke weed much?

[bic50]

I think this confidence is coming from the beating we gave gsw in our last meeting with them last season. This is a new season though and they are playing incredible. They'd likely beat the crap out of us right now.

[ElNono]

The lack of depth and 3pt shooting might be the death of the Spurs. KA is a complete 0 at the nba level. He has nothing to offer the Spurs at this point in time. Paddy is worthless if he can't knockdown open shots. Butler can't shoot to save his life. Green can't shoot to save Butler's life. West's defense is appalling. Diaw's defense is less than appalling but still underwhelming and his offense has been very suspect. Manu is night and day on the court. Some days, he's great and other times, he's terrible. It's pretty damning when the de facto back up PG has a bad game because the Spurs don't have another option other than a seldom used 3rd stringer who has no business being on the floor in a tight game.

Yet, despite all that, we've done pretty well so far. I think this team has a high ceiling. It's a process and we're not there yet. There's no familiarity, the offense is a work in progress, etc. Of course, it will take our designated shooters to make more shots than they've been making, and players generally understanding what we are running, where they need to be at all times, etc. Some of our kids are going to have to grow up, and they're going to make mistakes in the process.

Frankly, I have very little to complain about when it comes to the defense. Despite some lows in certain games or stretches, I think that's the one thing they've done very well, and it would be simply amazing if they can further improve it.

This is a very different team from years past, where everyone knew each other and we knew what kind of basketball we were playing. It was easier to hit the ground running when the season started back then (then again, we started 17-4 in '13-'14, a mark this team can match). Even on those years, we would lose games all the time to teams like the Bucks.

We all knew going into this season that it was going to be a long process and we were going to need to have patience. I thought so far they've performed above expectations. We're on pace to win 64 games, and you know the team can get better (saving a key injury). There's going to be some tough losses on the way, and hopefully some solid wins further down the road.

Now, if you're going to compare to the Dubs right now, then you're setting yourself up for disappointment. They do have the familiarity of last season, and what they're doing right now is historical in the NBA. All you can hope for is that they slow down. It's a long season, a lot of things can happen between now and April, and you just have to keep getting better and hopefully build something special to battle with in the Playoffs.

[Spurtacular]

That the Spurs can't dominate a playoff team on the road when only two players on the team can hit the broad side of a barn. Huge takeaway in late November tbh.

Noteworthy that the Spurs worst loss of last season was at Chicago. We knew this would be a tough one to get. tbh.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Spurs couldn't beat the Nets, Wizards, Bulls or OKC....... Not better than Warriors by any means. Spurfans premature cockiness is showing..

Lol dont even watch the games, fuck off

[Fireball]

No

[NameLess Scrub]

I think this confidence is coming from the beating we gave gsw in our last meeting with them last season. This is a new season though and they are playing incredible. They'd likely beat the crap out of us right now.

Also, wasn't that game meaningless for them? Hadn't they locked 1st seed overall by then.

[bic50]

Also, wasn't that game meaningless for them? Hadn't they locked 1st seed overall by then.

Yeah it was. I think some people are being a little too over confident.

[afireinside20]

Spurs couldn't beat the Nets, Wizards, Bulls or OKC....... Not better than Warriors by any means. Spurfans premature cockiness is showing..

Very early in the season though. It seems like we've been here before, Spurs annual slow start. Then come the end of the regular season the Spurs will be clicking, and hitting all cylinders. I seriously doubt the Warriors will be on this huge run of they'res til then. They will tire eventually and come back down to earth. The Spurs aren't 5 times champs for nothing, they know what it's about, and they'll be ready?

[George Gervin's Afro]

No they aren't

[Mr Bones]

This season's going great for both teams, and I think this is the match up that most true basketball fans really want so all we can do is wait and see how things look heading into the playoffs. I can't imagine any San Antonio fan at the beginning of the season saying they wouldn't be thrilled with a 14-4 start.

[in2deep]

:lmao What a shitty fucking thread.

[barbacoataco]

Spurs combination of Leonard/Green wing defense and their Duncan/Aldridge front court size could give them problems. But right now Golden State is the favorite until proven otherwise.

I think the Spurs 3-pt shooting will come around when Mills and Green get hot. And I don't know why that wouldn't happen

[ceperez]

Spurs combination of Leonard/Green wing defense and their Duncan/Aldridge front court size could give them problems. But right now Golden State is the favorite until proven otherwise.

I think the Spurs 3-pt shooting will come around when Mills and Green get hot. And I don't know why that wouldn't happen

If Aldridge and West start jacking up 3pt shots, then I think Spurs have a chance against GS.

[Kawhitstorm]

Now that the Warriors are the cream of the crop, the Spurs are to the Warriors what the Giants are to the Pats

[TD 21]

Now that the Warriors are the cream of the crop, the Spurs are to the Warriors what the Giants are to the Pats

They probably are, but how about people wait until they beat someone worth a damn in the playoffs before crowning them?

When the Spurs were running roughshod over the league from '11-'14, people wanted to see them do it against the elite, in the playoffs, before singing their praises. Even then, it took literally the greatest Finals performance of all-time for them to receive their due. It took these assholes about five minutes into last season to get that same respect and now they've eclipsed it, in 17 less years.

Even if they are, I'll never understand this fan bases obsession with bowing at the feet of other elite teams. You'd think an organization this accomplished would have fans that don't take a back seat to anybody.

[tbdog]

Honestly, how many games have the Warriors played where teams have missed key players. Cousins, Al Jef, Rose, etc?

[nowitzkikopf]

Now that the Warriors are the cream of the crop, the Spurs are to the Warriors what the Giants are to the Pats

haha we're good, but given history- you guys are still the pats. we're...idk, the warriors? can't think of an analogy. have to keep in perspective our dominance is only 2 seasons young

[SAGirl]

Yet, despite all that, we've done pretty well so far. I think this team has a high ceiling. It's a process and we're not there yet. There's no familiarity, the offense is a work in progress, etc. Of course, it will take our designated shooters to make more shots than they've been making, and players generally understanding what we are running, where they need to be at all times, etc. Some of our kids are going to have to grow up, and they're going to make mistakes in the process.

Frankly, I have very little to complain about when it comes to the defense. Despite some lows in certain games or stretches, I think that's the one thing they've done very well, and it would be simply amazing if they can further improve it.

This is a very different team from years past, where everyone knew each other and we knew what kind of basketball we were playing. It was easier to hit the ground running when the season started back then (then again, we started 17-4 in '13-'14, a mark this team can match). Even on those years, we would lose games all the time to teams like the Bucks.

We all knew going into this season that it was going to be a long process and we were going to need to have patience. I thought so far they've performed above expectations. We're on pace to win 64 games, and you know the team can get better (saving a key injury). There's going to be some tough losses on the way, and hopefully some solid wins further down the road.

Now, if you're going to compare to the Dubs right now, then you're setting yourself up for disappointment. They do have the familiarity of last season, and what they're doing right now is historical in the NBA. All you can hope for is that they slow down. It's a long season, a lot of things can happen between now and April, and you just have to keep getting better and hopefully build something special to battle with in the Playoffs.

I am with you Nono, more so than ever after seeing Pop coaching the young guys in the past few games, which we didn't see very early in the season as Pop was super strict and going to 8-9 man rotations (even West was playing 8 mins for Christ's sake). We knew that wasn't going to last, and its finally here. We are really seeing the team come together better, and even new guys that we didn't see very early are contributing to wins.

Like you said, the team has a high ceiling. We hit the season out of rhythm with guys not knowing what they were doing, and what the team really wanted to do offensively this year. When even Tim said he wans't sure about his role, you know we had issues offensively and it showed.

Despite that, we are winning.

On top of that for the first time in a while, we have young guys in the bench that can play. Like you say, we have kids in our bench that will go through growing pains during the season. Sometimes they will get pulled, mess up or whatever, but with as much small ball as the league is playing I don't discount either Simmons or Anderson playing with more regularity. The reason, for small ball, Anderson has been really good, better than Butler. Has to shoot the 3, and Pop has got to push him more, and Simmons is perfect for perimeter games bc of his athleticism. He adds a different dimension, and is specially good to make runs in games (what the 2nd unit likes to do.) Both have talent, but not Pop's trust yet, and are still undeveloped in some areas. Anyways, both have so far had some very good games and look like guys who can give some things to the team that it has lacked. We didn't have that in the past. We had Daye/Ayers at the end of the bench and CoJo, who turned out like a real player, but was never going to unseat Patty because Patty is a clutch shooter in playoff situations.

Anyways, I agree completely with you!

[Arcadian]

Spurs have a superior defense and the best frontline in basketball. If Leonard/Aldridge/Duncan are all playing at a high level, who's going to stop them? They will midrange jumpshot you to death, while commanding the boards and locking down the paint defensively like a fucking fortress.

And then, just when you think it's over, Boris Diaw and David West check into the game...and a 7'3 giant looms on the bench. :lol

[Uriel]

:lmao Warriors would smoke the Spurs in a 7-game series if the playoffs started tomorrow.

Fortunately, we have 6 more months until we likely meet them in the WCF.