Game Thread: Spurs vs Bucks -- Wed. (12/2) - 7:30PM CST (3:30AM Riga Time)

[SAGirl]

:lol Man I'm glad I was wrong about tonight's game. Still, the play of the bench home vs away is still extremely worrisome. Mills especially needs to play better on the road.
To be fair to our bench though, Pop has been very reluctant to play all if his guys sticking to a super short rotation and refusing to give time to Simmons and keeping Anderson so tight that he was afraid to make plays or get chewed up. I hope Pop has opened his eyes here.

[TXstbobcat]

Bobo3333333 :bobo

[BatManu20]

Bobo!

[r0drig0lac]

lol bobo

[Ron Swanson]

Bobo from New Braunfels

[Silver&Black]

B:wowb:wow...

My nigga.

[TheDoctor]

LMAO BOBO CURRY!

[100%duncan]

Bobo :lmao

[EVAY]

Hahaha, Diaw.

[atoyotagaspedal]

bobo with his steph curry impression

[Kawhitstorm]

Bonner playing w/ leg warmers:lmao

http://lghttp.28346.nexcesscdn.net/80BE07/magento/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/W/E/WEB_LegWarmer_KneeHigh_Forest_1.jpg?rand=

[TXstbobcat]

Bobo!!!!!

[100%duncan]

:wow

[Silver&Black]

Hold em under 70...

:wakeup

[beirmeistr]

Bonner playing w/ leg warmers:lmao

http://lghttp.28346.nexcesscdn.net/80BE07/magento/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/W/E/WEB_LegWarmer_KneeHigh_Forest_1.jpg?rand=

red mambas are coldblooded

[SAGirl]

Boris for the doubters.

[atoyotagaspedal]

Bonner playing w/ leg warmers:lmao



He puts these on every game hoping for blowout games

[TXstbobcat]

Butler33333333

[ace3g]

Simmons to Butler for the 3 off the bank

[Ron Swanson]

Bank shot

[Kawhitstorm]

Has Butler made a 3 this entire season?:lol

[BatManu20]

Butler with the 3 off the glass

[100%duncan]

Butler's shot still broken

[SAGirl]

RASUAL BANK SHOT

[Silver&Black]

Butler called glass...

I heard him.

[SAGirl]

I wonder what is up with Bonner and his calves. Every game he expects to play I see him with those warm pads.

[Nathan89]

Butler can get waived already.

[EVAY]

Nice. Thanks. Defense not so good?

Not so much.

[Kawhitstorm]

Butler's shot still broken

Once Danny/Butler start knocking down their 3s the offense is going to catch up w/ the defense:toast

[Fireball]

Diaw going all ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrqR018iYJg

[Kawhitstorm]

I wonder what is up with Bonner and his calves. Every game he expects to play I see him with those warm pads.

Didn't he have a calf injury last season? Or maybe he's paying tribute to Tiago:lol

[TXstbobcat]

Simmons!!!!!!!!!

[ace3g]

Simmons splits the defense.

[r0drig0lac]

simms is amazing

[sasaint]

Simmons very pretty again!

[100%duncan]

get it to a 100 atleast

[Silver&Black]

Hold em under 70...

:wakeup


:pctoss

Tank for Ben Simmons

[Ron Swanson]

Damn, they hit 70.

[SAGirl]

Diaw always looks disinterested in games when there is little or nothing at stake. He is at his best when he is engaged mentally, and he is never engaged whenever there is a blow-out in either direction.
POP giving Bobo a,workout apparently.

[TXstbobcat]

15 - 4 :flag:

[Southwest Texas Fan]

:flag::flag::flag:

[ace3g]

P
PTS
AST
REB
OREB
DREB
FGM-FGA
FG%
3PTM-3PTA
3PT%
FTM-FTA
FT%
BLK
STL
TO
PF
+/-
MIN




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21
T. Duncan



---
16
1
10
3
7
7-11
0
0-0
0
2-2
0
0
1
2
1
11
19:44




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2
K. Leonard



---
13
4
3
2
1
3-12
0
0-1
0
7-8
0
0
0
0
1
14
25:06




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8
P. Mills



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13
3
3
0
3
5-11
0
3-6
0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
8
22:28




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33
B. Diaw



C-F
11
3
6
3
3
5-9
0
1-1
0
0-2
0
0
0
1
2
13
25:13




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9
T. Parker



---
8
3
1
0
1
2-6
0
1-1
0
3-4
0
0
2
1
1
16
18:27




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17
J. Simmons



G-F
8
2
1
0
1
4-6
0
0-1
0
0-1
0
0
0
1
0
12
20:09




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12
L. Aldridge



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6
0
9
2
7
3-10
0
0-0
0
0-0
0
5
0
1
2
3
22:46




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18
R. Butler



F
5
1
2
0
2
2-4
0
1-2
0
0-0
0
1
0
0
0
2
10:08




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20
M. Ginobili



---
5
3
0
0
0
2-5
0
1-2
0
0-0
0
0
1
1
1
2
11:31




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1
K. Anderson



F
4
0
5
0
5
1-3
0
0-1
0
2-3
0
1
3
2
1
7
18:38




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30
D. West



---
4
2
8
1
7
2-6
0
0-0
0
0-0
0
2
2
0
0
21
18:09




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14
D. Green



---
2
2
4
0
4
1-5
0
0-4
0
0-0
0
0
2
0
3
15
20:36




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15
M. Bonner



C-F
0
1
2
1
1
0-2
0
0-2
0
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
1
7:05


TOTAL

95
25
54
12
42
37-90
41.1
9
11
7-21
33.3
14-20
70.0
10
12

240




41.1%

33.3%
70.0%

[FaM0us Skins]

90-75 :flag:

[BatManu20]

Good win against a shit team. Back at it tomorrow night in Memphis.


:flag:

[Fireball]

Spurs 15-4 ... I go 19-0 ... good night

[UNT Eagles 2016]

15 - 4 :flag:
Should I summon the 20 – 0 gimmick alt crew?

[TXstbobcat]

That was an Ike Turner beatdown

[Kawhitstorm]

Simmons splits the defense.

Simmons is playing free like he did in Summer League:toast

[Ron Swanson]

Nice win. Let's do it again tomorrow.

[100%duncan]

Good win against a shit team. Back at it tomorrow night in Memphis.


:flag:

it's @ memphis right?

[EVAY]

POP giving Bobo a,workout apparently.

He really looked like he was playing playground ball at the end, there, didn't he?

[SPURt]

Nice to see Simmons make an impact, glad the Spurs got another W

[sasaint]

POP giving Bobo a,workout apparently.

Led the team in court time. first time as a Spur? :lol

[Silver&Black]

:flag: Spurs win 95-70 to improve to 15-4 on the young season. Undefeated at home...

http://i.imgur.com/iHrqok5.png

(I don't know why the ESPN boxscore isn't working...this is from NBA.com)

[sasaint]

it's @ memphis right?

Yep.

[siraulo23]

good win

tough game tomorrow vs the grizzlies

[TMTTRIO]

Time to give Simmons all of Manu's minutes and shut Manu down for now.

[100%duncan]

Yep.

Trap game

[SAGirl]

Thrilling game!! So pleased with Simmons and Anderson.

[Silver&Black]

Trap game

Definitely....hope the good guys take care of business.

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[TE]

Happy for Simmons. That kid deserves more PT.

[sasaint]

Simmons is playing free like he did in Summer League:toast

He is really benefitting from time on the floor with Kawhi. Kawhi looks for him and finds him at spots on the floor where he can succeed. Those two could possibly become a seriously athletic wing combo.

[TheDoctor]

I wonder what is up with Bonner and his calves. Every game he expects to play I see him with those warm pads.

#Tiagoitis

[loveforthegame]

He is really benefitting from time on the floor with Kawhi. Kawhi looks for him and finds him at spots on the floor where he can succeed. Those two could possibly become a seriously athletic wing combo.

Those two do work good together. It'll be fun watching that develop more.

[sasaint]

It is a real shame that Ray wasn't active tonight. Pop could have given him some minutes, too.

[Ron Swanson]

#Tiagoitis

We may have to take him out back and shoot him.

[sasaint]

Those two do work good together. It'll be fun watching that develop more.

I don't know whether I should abandon cautious optimism for giddy excitement. :wow

[Kawhitstorm]

He is really benefitting from time on the floor with Kawhi. Kawhi looks for him and finds him at spots on the floor where he can succeed. Those two could possibly become a seriously athletic wing combo.

They have synergy ala Manu/Marco. I guess it's probably b/c they are the two most athletic players on the team:lol & CoJo was Kawhi's BFF so he has now taken Simmons under his wing.:toast

[sasaint]

They have synergy ala Manu/Marco. I guess it's probably b/c they are the two most athletic players on the team:lol & CoJo was Kawhi's BFF so he has now taken Simmons under his wing.:toast

I think that synergy is a huge positive for Simmons ("Wow, the team's best player/all-star is looking for me!"). But it is also a fantastic sign of Kawhi's growth, now into mentoring the new guys. THAT really excites me.

[SAGirl]

It is a real shame that Ray wasn't active tonight. Pop could have given him some minutes, too.
Agree on this. There was a lot of garbage time with Patty and Diaw. Instead of Diaw we could have seen Anderson at the 4 and Ray at the 1. As it was we saw a lot of Anderson at the 1 at the end and it is clear he's too slow for that.

We might have forced other guys to shoot the 3 too w/o Diaw and Mills.

[SAGirl]

I can't believe they only credited one block to Anderson. I swear he makes more defensive plays in games than the scoreboard reflects.

[loveforthegame]

I don't know whether I should abandon cautious optimism for giddy excitement. :wow

It's certainly an exciting turn I wasn't expecting this season. As long as Simmons continues to produce I can see Pop giving him the minutes. It's only been two games but there's something there. I'd love to know if Leonard works with him in practice at all.

[LakerHater]

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[sasaint]

Agree on this. There was a lot of garbage time with Patty and Diaw. Instead of Diaw we could have seen Anderson at the 4 and Ray at the 1. As it was we saw a lot of Anderson at the 1 at the end and it is clear he's too slow for that.

We might have forced other guys to shoot the 3 too w/o Diaw and Mills.

Yeah, but then he just gets garbage time play. I wish Pop would give Ray a couple of minutes with the regular rotation players, as he has gradually done with Simmons. In fact, to this point Pop looks like he has handled Simmons masterfully, finding the perfect situations to pair him with Kawhi and give him meaningful minutes with the regular rotation players. That's what he also did earlier with Kyle, to Kyle's benefit. After the last stretch of 3-4 games when Simmons has shown real improvement, it will be interesting to see whether he or Kyle gets into games first. Likely depends on opponent. We might be watching the nascent careers of a couple of long-term Spurs! Getting back to Ray, Pop seems to be getting the deep bench guys up to speed on a staggered basis. Ray's time may yet come, say, in January. We fans are a lot less patient than Pop!

[sasaint]

It's certainly an exciting turn I wasn't expecting this season. As long as Simmons continues to produce I can see Pop giving him the minutes. It's only been two games but there's something there. I'd love to know if Leonard works with him in practice at all.

I don't believe we would be witnessing that level of synergy in these last few games if that weren't the case.

[SAGirl]

I don't see Simmons back in the dleague. He was there for 2years already and we have better coaches. I love Anderson and sad to say for him perhaps Simmons is a better fit for the bench as they are right now, because they lack athleticism. Anderson is much younger than Simmons and still finding his game. Simmons can play right now. Despite whatever he still has to work on, he has NBA level talent and athleticism.

I do love Anderson's use of his length and size on defense but he has to shoot more 3s and be more aggressive with his shots, unless he gets stopped, then pass.

Simmons can pass really well too.

It will be exciting to see them develop and I hope Pop doesn't leave them glued to the bench. It really irks me when Pop doesn't try different guys when we are losing. You never know who is going to have the energy to turn the tide.

[ace3g]

Jabari Young @JabariJYoung
(https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung)Simmons said his whole mission tonight was earning trust with Popovich. Did a good job off the bench: 8 pts, reb, 2 asts #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs)

[steeledl]

I don't see Simmons back in the dleague. He was there for 2years already and we have better coaches. I love Anderson and sad to say for him perhaps Simmons is a better fit for the bench as they are right now, because they lack athleticism. Anderson is much younger than Simmons and still finding his game. Simmons can play right now. Despite whatever he still has to work on, he has NBA level talent and athleticism.

I do love Anderson's use of his length and size on defense but he has to shoot more 3s and be more aggressive with his shots, unless he gets stopped, then pass.

Simmons can pass really well too.

It will be exciting to see them develop and I hope Pop doesn't leave them glued to the bench. It really irks me when Pop doesn't try different guys when we are losing. You never know who is going to have the energy to turn the tide.




:wow:wow.....................welcome.

[sasaint]

I can't believe they only credited one block to Anderson. I swear he makes more defensive plays in games than the scoreboard reflects.

Yeah, right now his value at the defensive end is much higher than his value at the offensive end. Like you, I hope he becomes a little more aggressive on O. It's the only way he will progress.

[EVAY]

I don't see Simmons back in the dleague. He was there for 2years already and we have better coaches. I love Anderson and sad to say for him perhaps Simmons is a better fit for the bench as they are right now, because they lack athleticism. Anderson is much younger than Simmons and still finding his game. Simmons can play right now. Despite whatever he still has to work on, he has NBA level talent and athleticism.

I do love Anderson's use of his length and size on defense but he has to shoot more 3s and be more aggressive with his shots, unless he gets stopped, then pass.

Simmons can pass really well too.

It will be exciting to see them develop and I hope Pop doesn't leave them glued to the bench. It really irks me when Pop doesn't try different guys when we are losing. You never know who is going to have the energy to turn the tide.

Well said.

[ace3g]

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Didn't notice Pop was sporting the Suit vest

[steeledl]

Simmons gives me a straight guy boner. Is this normal?

[SAGirl]

Yeah, but then he just gets garbage time play. I wish Pop would give Ray a couple of minutes with the regular rotation players, as he has gradually done with Simmons. In fact, to this point Pop looks like he has handled Simmons masterfully, finding the perfect situations to pair him with Kawhi and give him meaningful minutes with the regular rotation players. That's what he also did earlier with Kyle, to Kyle's benefit. After the last stretch of 3-4 games when Simmons has shown real improvement, it will be interesting to see whether he or Kyle gets into games first. Likely depends on opponent. We might be watching the nascent careers of a couple of long-term Spurs! Getting back to Ray, Pop seems to be getting the deep bench guys up to speed on a staggered basis. Ray's time may yet come, say, in January. We fans are a lot less patient than Pop!
I agree with you completely. I rewatched some sections of the Denver game that Ray played at (it was really only 3 mins of non garbage time) and he was very good defensively, but he was completely lost on our offensive sets and he seemed like he couldn't get guys in their right spots or get the ball where it needed to go. He's probably very athletic and good defensively too, for his position much like Simmons and he can shoot the 3, but the PG is really important to initiate the offense and it seems like Ray is really nit familiar enough with our sets for Pop to play him. It doesn't mean he can't play.

Simmons to.e in the dleague did him wonders. You can tell he knows the offense and the spots he's supposed to go and he can find his guys.

[KL2]

Simmons playing very well, he was killing the Bucks defense on penetrations, that's when the bench had some of it's best ball movement. Love to see a slasher like Simmons playing next to Leonard, they can work very well off each other on offense. Continues to make the correct decisions when passing, knows where guys are going to be.

Gambles a bit too much on defense, and can get lost, but overall his defense was better than time he played. It's gonna be tough getting minutes out there, don't know how big of a role he can have this year.

Also, Simmons came in the league at 195? Read he's now in the 205 range, put on 10lbs so far, gotta continue to fill out his body.

[SAGirl]

:wow:wow.....................welcome.
Lol I have always liked Simmons. It's just that unlike you I also like Anderson and he was getting too much flame on here when he can play as well ... It sort of made me a champion to his cause.:lol

But I have always liked Simmons too. Notice that they are not mutually exclusive. Lol

[LakerHater]

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[SpurPadre]

It never ceases to amaze me how often PATFO find diamonds in the rough. Looks like Simmons' dleague days may be over.

[sasaint]

I agree with you completely. I rewatched some sections of the Denver game that Ray played at (it was really only 3 mins of non garbage time) and he was very good defensively, but he was completely lost on our offensive sets and he seemed like he couldn't get guys in their right spots or get the ball where it needed to go. He's probably very athletic and good defensively too, for his position much like Simmons and he can shoot the 3, but the PG is really important to initiate the offense and it seems like Ray is really nit familiar enough with our sets for Pop to play him. It doesn't mean he can't play.

Simmons to.e in the dleague did him wonders. You can tell he knows the offense and the spots he's supposed to go and he can find his guys.

When RC signed the guy, singing his praises, I did not expect to see Ray spending time in Austin, but maybe that's what he needs, too.

[BatManu20]

672288649145245696

[ace3g]

How many spins moves/pump fakes should I attempt here?

https://s.yimg.com/sr/imgv1/1/e4110fcb-2526-308b-98cb-f4151be1b684

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[SAGirl]

He might just sit Manu against Memphis, which is normally a more physical team... we'll see
We won the last Memphis game without Aldridge and with some small ball from Anderson. We now have Aldridge and a much more confident Simmons, which maybe Pop wants to see on the defensive end.

I think they always knew he could score, he's really athletic and they had seen that.

Can they afford to sub him for Danny or Manu in non-garbage time is what Pop probably wants to know? Is he reliable on defense? Is he going to make good decisions when Gasol is in the paint and we are not running over teams?

Still much to find out about Simmons and I do wish that Pop gives him some time. We might even see him over Anderson because like sasaint mentioned, Pop will probably go by matchups and hopefully will be testing him much like he's done Anderson to find out what he really can do defensively.

Should be a really exciting game. I do wonder if we'll see Manu, and I think we will. He really only played 12 minutes.

[dabom]

dabom (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=47543) : "Danny Green is a scrub"

:lol

[BillMc]

:flag: Victory

[Spurtacular]

I thought the Bucks were supposed to be good? As a group, they look pretty mediocre.

[cariocaz]

I enjoyed those links. Thanks!

[ceperez]

Interesting, really bad shooting night by LMA and KL, yet they blow out the Bucks.

[ceperez]

We won the last Memphis game without Aldridge and with some small ball from Anderson. We now have Aldridge and a much more confident Simmons, which maybe Pop wants to see on the defensive end.

I think they always knew he could score, he's really athletic and they had seen that.

Can they afford to sub him for Danny or Manu in non-garbage time is what Pop probably wants to know? Is he reliable on defense? Is he going to make good decisions when Gasol is in the paint and we are not running over teams?

Still much to find out about Simmons and I do wish that Pop gives him some time. We might even see him over Anderson because like sasaint mentioned, Pop will probably go by matchups and hopefully will be testing him much like he's done Anderson to find out what he really can do defensively.

Should be a really exciting game. I do wonder if we'll see Manu, and I think we will. He really only played 12 minutes.

It depends on the matchup. This game Simmons and Green were on Middleton and they couldn't stop him. Pop then put KA on Middleton and put a stop to his game. KA didn't score much but had 3 assists and 5 rebounds.

Spurs will need both to do well, but as you say, it will depend on matchups. Good to have the luxury of having another decent perimeter defender aside from KL and Green.

[ceperez]

When RC signed the guy, singing his praises, I did not expect to see Ray spending time in Austin, but maybe that's what he needs, too.

I think so far Ray has been a disappointment. He's got the talent, but the problem may be that he can't read the defense.

If you watch Simmons, he made a lot of good passes. The other plus is that he makes the passes when he penetrates, so he's got this uncanny skill that even when he slashes he still is able to make a good pass to open guys.

He's so good that the problem here is that he thinks he should have the ball. I think he'll do better if he's the second option in the offense. Penetrate and dish to break up the defensive alignments.

[ceperez]

I can't believe they only credited one block to Anderson. I swear he makes more defensive plays in games than the scoreboard reflects.

He had 3 steals... his length is disruptive, even against a long team like the Bucks. You can't teach length.

In offense, he's like Diaw, doesn't want to score. A little more urgency in his offensive game will do well. But he plays conservative because pop wants him to play conservatively.

[ceperez]

I think that synergy is a huge positive for Simmons ("Wow, the team's best player/all-star is looking for me!"). But it is also a fantastic sign of Kawhi's growth, now into mentoring the new guys. THAT really excites me.

The KL & Simmons can be deadly. The way KL posts up, he does so in a way that he still has options to pass. However his passes aren't the kinds that go across the court, but rather shorter ones. Simmons gives KL a release valve to pass to him if he cuts at the same time. Simmons in motion is very difficult to stop, furthermore he can finish in traffic.

[ceperez]

He is really benefitting from time on the floor with Kawhi. Kawhi looks for him and finds him at spots on the floor where he can succeed. Those two could possibly become a seriously athletic wing combo.

Interesting that Danny and Kawhi never developed a two man game. I think the player that Danny plays well with is Tim. Tim is able to find Danny his 3 point shots or when he cuts. I don't see other players being able to feed Danny.

[Brazil]

winning a game by 25 pts with 41% from the field tbh... :lol

[NameLess Scrub]

Greek Freak's length will be a problem for KL.

Seems like it was. I think I saw Kawhi trying to force stuff through somebody longer than him.

[SAGirl]

Interesting that Danny and Kawhi never developed a two man game. I think the player that Danny plays well with is Tim. Tim is able to find Danny his 3 point shots or when he cuts. I don't see other players being able to feed Danny.
I think Tony used to have a kind of 2 man game with Danny, since whenever Tony got into the paint, he kept in mind where Danny was if his drive was stopped. Since the team has changed, and Tony now has to feed our two premier scorers preferably, Danny is not the release valve he was for Tony.

Danny used to have a green light to shoot transition 3s (he still takes them but more with the bench. Kyle primarily looks for Danny in transition), but the SL just plays different right now and they want to slow the pace.

Danny's game has been the most affected. He still gets open 3s plenty, they are just created in different ways, and he has apparently been encouraged to make plays off the dribble, where he's terrible.

[SAGirl]

Seems like it was. I think I saw Kawhi trying to force stuff through somebody longer than him.
Yea, Pop didn't like that one bit, after that happened, he had Kawhi attack the paint and distribute. He did a good job, he drew fouls at a good rate and also found open guys.

That just shows you, Kawhi is still a young guy and still with all his experience needs to be coached.

[ceperez]

Seems like it was. I think I saw Kawhi trying to force stuff through somebody longer than him.

Leonard always has offensive problems with players that are longer that him. He is best when he does have a length advantage.

There not a lot of speed in his offensive game. He just dominates the other player, which doesn't work with longer players.

Diaw also has the same problem, but compensates by having a lot of creative moves.

Against the GSW, Diaw can post up any of their 5 (Green, Thompson, Barnes, Curry, Igoudola). I can't say the same for Leonard until I see them play.

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For those clutch games, what's the W-L for the Spurs vs W-L GSW?

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He had 3 steals... his length is disruptive, even against a long team like the Bucks. You can't teach length.

In offense, he's like Diaw, doesn't want to score. A little more urgency in his offensive game will do well. But he plays conservative because pop wants him to play conservatively.
He's a jumpshooter I gather because he's not athletic most times he gets in the paint he wants to dish. He had a very evolved midrange game in college, and took a lot of midrange shots in the SL as we saw. Obviously Pop doesn't want him doing that. He's only gotten aggressive when the shot clock is winding down and takes a lot of desperation shots, which surprisingly he can make bc he's crafty and has length to get shots off over others, but it affects his percentages. He's passing out of easy shots others make for him, and then he's taking all the hard stuff, no wonder his shooting is so low.

He does need to get more aggressive quite honestly. The start of the season it was 1 minute play and bench. Pop was so strict that I think he's become even more reluctant to shoot or drive, and you are right, he's like Diaw, you can't promote something like that in a guy like Diaw because he will disappear offensively in games for you. He needs to be pushed.

I am happy that Pop is coaching him to get his too. Simmons is clearly a superior athlete, even than Kawhi, in terms of explosiveness and quick first step, so Simmons will be more efficient, but Kyle's value is to space the floor shooting that 3, then his post up game which will allow him to create from the post for others or get his own shots. He's a baby in that area, still very much finding his game. Its very different from what he was doing in college, and it relies on skill not athleticism. He's athletic enough to defend and he's got a nice shooting touch, but we don't see that enough and sometimes quite honestly, the team needs it.

I am very excited to watch them develop, each provides different things, and what is more exciting is that they are not redundant with Kawhi and Danny either. Each of them has a different game.

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Interesting that Danny and Kawhi never developed a two man game. I think the player that Danny plays well with is Tim. Tim is able to find Danny his 3 point shots or when he cuts. I don't see other players being able to feed Danny.

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I thought the Bucks were supposed to be good? As a group, they look pretty mediocre.

Yeah, compared to last year, they aren't fulfilling their expectations. Underachieving in all regards but specially in defense.

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The KL & Simmons can be deadly. The way KL posts up, he does so in a way that he still has options to pass. However his passes aren't the kinds that go across the court, but rather shorter ones. Simmons gives KL a release valve to pass to him if he cuts at the same time. Simmons in motion is very difficult to stop, furthermore he can finish in traffic.

That is the essence of the synergy the two guys seem to have. Even though Simmons likes to have the ball, he is good at off-ball cutting to the basket, and he doesn't press or disengage if Kawhi rewards him. It really builds his confidence. On Kawhi's end, you are exactly right, it is the kind of pocket-type passing that Kawhi prefers to whipping the ball cross-court to a spot-up Danny, for example (as you kind of implied in another comment).

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