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tlongII
12-04-2015, 05:08 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/donald-trump-poll-cnn-orc-national/index.html


(CNN)—Donald Trump is once again alone at the top of the Republican field, according to the latest CNN/ORC Poll, with 36% of registered Republicans and Republican-leaning independents behind him, while his nearest competitor trails by 20 points.

Three candidates cluster behind Trump in the mid-teens, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 16%, former neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 14% and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 12%. All other candidates have the support of less than 5% of GOP voters in the race for the Republican Party's nomination for president.

Carson (down 8 points since October), former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (down 5 points to 3%) and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (down 4 points to 1%) have lost the most ground since the last CNN/ORC poll, conducted in mid-October.

Cruz (up 12 points) and Trump (up 9 points) are the greatest beneficiaries of those declines. Rubio is also up slightly, gaining 4 points -- an increase within the poll's margin of sampling error -- since the last CNN/ORC poll.

Republican voters are most sharply divided by education. Among those GOP voters who hold college degrees, the race is a close contest between the top four contenders, with Cruz slightly in front at 22%, Carson and Rubio tied at 19% and Trump at 18%. Among those without college degrees, Trump holds a runaway lead: 46% support the businessman, compared with 12% for Cruz, 11% for Carson and just 8% for Rubio.

Several other recent polls have shown Trump reclaiming a solid lead atop the GOP field after several weeks of near parity with Carson. But the new poll finds the businessman with both his broadest support and his widest lead in any national live-interviewer telephone poll since he announced his candidacy in June.

The poll reflects Trump's dominance over the rest of the field on the issues voters deem most important to them. He holds massive margins over other Republicans as the candidate most trusted to handle the economy (at 55%, Trump stands 46 percentage points over his nearest competitor), the federal budget (51%, up 41 points), illegal immigration (48%, up 34 points), ISIS (46%, up 31 points) and foreign policy (30%, up 13 points).

Looking at those Republicans who consider each issue to be "extremely important" to their vote, Trump's standing on each issue is even stronger. Among those Republican voters who call the economy extremely important, for example, 60% say they trust Trump to handle that issue. Among immigration voters, 55% trust Trump on the issue. On foreign policy, Trump inches up to 32%, and among those who call terrorism an extremely important issue, 49% say they trust Trump most on ISIS.

The poll was conducted before the shootings in San Bernardino, California, on Wednesday, carried out by a man reported to have been radicalized and his wife.

More generally, about 4 in 10 Republicans say Trump is the candidate who would be most effective at solving the country's problems (42% name Trump, 14% Carson, 12% Cruz, 10% Rubio) and could best handle the responsibilities of being commander-in-chief (37% Trump, 16% Cruz, 11% Carson and 10% Rubio).

And a majority of Republican voters say they see Trump as the candidate with the best chances to win the general election next November (52% say Trump has the best chances there, compared with 15% for Rubio, 11% for Cruz and 10% for Carson).

On immigration, an issue that has been a focal point of Trump's campaign, most Americans say the government should not attempt to deport all people living in the country illegally (63%), and even more say such a mass deportation wouldn't be possible (81%). About half say such an effort would be harmful to the economy (47%), while about 3 in 10 say it would help (29%).

Among Republicans, a narrow majority (53%) think the government should try to deport all of the estimated 11 million immigrants currently living in the U.S. illegally, but most think it wouldn't ultimately be possible to achieve (73%). Republicans are more likely than others to see a deportation effort as helpful to the economy (44% think it would help, 30% that it would hurt).

There's a sharp divide among Republican voters on these questions about deportation between those who back Trump and those who do not. Among Trump supporters, 67% say the government should attempt to deport all people living in the country illegally, while just 39% of Republican voters backing other candidates agree. Still, even among Trump's supporters, most say it wouldn't be possible to deport all those living in the U.S. illegally (55%).

Republican voters remain more enthusiastic about voting than their Democratic counterparts, but the gains in enthusiasm that had emerged through October appear to have stalled.

The CNN/ORC Poll was conducted by telephone November 27 through December 1 among a random national sample of 1,020 adults. Interviews were conducted with 930 registered voters, including 445 who are Republicans or independents who lean toward the Republican Party. For results among Republican and Republican-leaning voters, the margin of sampling error is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

boutons_deux
12-04-2015, 05:11 PM
iow, a Dem will be next Pres.

tlongII
12-04-2015, 09:20 PM
iow, a Dem will be next Pres.

I wouldn't count on that.

boutons_deux
12-04-2015, 09:22 PM
tshlong doesn't even know how silly, what a fucking sheep he is.

rmt
12-05-2015, 12:14 AM
I wouldn't count on that.

Would you please share why you think so?

resistanze
12-05-2015, 12:27 AM
Republican voters are most sharply divided by education. Among those GOP voters who hold college degrees, the race is a close contest between the top four contenders, with Cruz slightly in front at 22%, Carson and Rubio tied at 19% and Trump at 18%. Among those without college degrees, Trump holds a runaway lead: 46% support the businessman, compared with 12% for Cruz, 11% for Carson and just 8% for Rubio.

SpursforSix
12-05-2015, 12:31 AM
Trump gonna get some of the black vote.

FuzzyLumpkins
12-05-2015, 12:58 AM
I wouldn't count on that.

The problem with gerrymandered primaries is the general and the nation at large.

It sure is looking like Trump/Cruz is the GOP ticket right now. Neither has any allies in the GOP

Pelicans78
12-05-2015, 01:02 AM
Originally Posted by tlongII (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8305945#post8305945) Republican voters are most sharply divided by education. Among those GOP voters who hold college degrees, the race is a close contest between the top four contenders, with Cruz slightly in front at 22%, Carson and Rubio tied at 19% and Trump at 18%. Among those without college degrees, Trump holds a runaway lead: 46% support the businessman, compared with 12% for Cruz, 11% for Carson and just 8% for Rubio.



That defines Trump's campaign. He attracts the lunatic fringe who eat up whatever he says and he knows it. He probably doesn't mean half the things he says, but he doesn't back off because he knows his retarded supporters will have his back.

Aztecfan03
12-05-2015, 01:19 AM
Can't that blowhard just go away already.

SpursforSix
12-05-2015, 01:21 AM
Can't that blowhard just go away already.

He's signed for 2 more years at about $15 million per. So it's doubtful.

SpursforSix
12-05-2015, 01:21 AM
Whoops. Wrong thread.

tlongII
12-05-2015, 01:23 AM
We shall see.

Aztecfan03
12-05-2015, 01:33 AM
He's signed for 2 more years at about $15 million per. So it's doubtful.


Whoops. Wrong thread.

riiiiight. You just wanted to throw in a parker jab.

rmt
12-05-2015, 02:38 AM
The problem with gerrymandered primaries is the general and the nation at large.

It sure is looking like Trump/Cruz is the GOP ticket right now. Neither has any allies in the GOP

That would be the most hated combo for the establishment, who'd prefer to vote for HRC over them.

Nbadan
12-05-2015, 02:52 AM
Compared to these GOP clowns, Paul Ryan would be a lock...

FuzzyLumpkins
12-05-2015, 03:19 AM
Compared to these GOP clowns, Paul Ryan would be a lock...

For the electorate is he that much different than Rubio?

Winehole23
12-05-2015, 03:35 AM
Compared to these GOP clowns, Paul Ryan would be a lock...Ryan was the first to crap out.

Winehole23
12-05-2015, 03:38 AM
Race appears to be Trump's to lose. Should he fumble it, expect a Cruz/Rubio dogfight.

Winehole23
12-05-2015, 03:40 AM
Rubio is more likable, but Cruz is more cunning. Will be an interesting race.

boutons_deux
12-05-2015, 08:04 AM
Trump gonna get some of the black vote.

Repugs usually get less than 10%, so, Dems will get 90%, aka, a landslide.

boutons_deux
12-05-2015, 08:06 AM
Rubio is more likable, but Cruz is more cunning. Will be an interesting race.

Is Rubio likeable? :lol

When the comparison is with a slimy, Christian supremacist piece of lying, fraudulent, demagoguing shit like Cruz, Rubio still stinks.

tlongII
12-05-2015, 09:39 AM
I think most of you underestimate how much the general public hates Hillary. Trump can beat her.

Winehole23
12-05-2015, 09:44 AM
the polls say Rubio's more likeable than Cruz; I wasn't asking your opinion and didn't need to.

about as many of the polled view Rubio unfavorably as favorably, while Cruz's favorability rating is underwater.

boutons_deux
12-05-2015, 09:59 AM
the polls say Rubio's more likeable than Cruz; I wasn't asking your opinion and didn't need to.

about as many of the polled view Rubio unfavorably as favorably, while Cruz's favorability rating is underwater.

iow, "When the comparison is with a slimy, Christian supremacist piece of lying, fraudulent, demagoguing shit like Cruz, Rubio still stinks."

head to head, Hillary and Bernie poll as beating each of the top 4 Repugs, when Bernie doing better than Hillary.

pgardn
12-05-2015, 10:15 AM
That would be the most hated combo for the establishment, who'd prefer to vote for HRC over them.

It's the most hated combo for rational people who are not mouth-breathing hot heads as well.

pgardn
12-05-2015, 10:21 AM
I think most of you underestimate how much the general public hates Hillary. Trump can beat her.

I want to see how he does with females once the general election campaign gets underway. He has Fd himself so badly on his road to corralling the significant Republican Cro-Magnon man vote.

Ball Buster
12-05-2015, 10:24 AM
If Donald Trump ends up being the Republican nominee, then Hillary Rodham is the next President of the United States.

Aztecfan03
12-05-2015, 12:12 PM
I think most of you underestimate how much the general public hates Hillary. Trump can beat her.

Maybe, but Trump, more or less, would be Obama 2.0.

hater
12-05-2015, 12:35 PM
Lots of ppl hate trump tbh. Not sure is shillary or trump are more hated.

It scares me that the retard hillbilly trump supporters cheer at stupid shit he says.

Still trump >>> most repug field and I might pick him over neocon Shillary

boutons_deux
12-05-2015, 01:08 PM
Maybe, but Trump, more or less, would be Obama 2.0.

you're full of shit

SnakeBoy
12-05-2015, 02:51 PM
Can't that blowhard just go away already.

Which one, Trump or Hillary?

tlongII
12-05-2015, 02:53 PM
I would definitely vote for Trump over Hillary.

CosmicCowboy
12-05-2015, 04:30 PM
I never dreamed that Trump would be in this position but as terrorism and immigration become more important to average Americans it plays right into Trumps hand. Obama being such a pussy puts Hillary in the unenviable position of having to defend Obama/Democratic positions that are unpopular with all but the most Boutonish hard core democrats.

boutons_deux
12-05-2015, 05:20 PM
I never dreamed that Trump would be in this position but as terrorism and immigration become more important to average Americans it plays right into Trumps hand. Obama being such a pussy puts Hillary in the unenviable position of having to defend Obama/Democratic positions that are unpopular with all but the most Boutonish hard core democrats.

He has only 30% of REPUG voters, and those are all stupid, ignorant asshole fringe, in a multiply split field, maybe enough to win nomination, but never enough to be elected.