What were Tim, Manu and Tony's Best Series Each?

[T_L_P]

Tim: too many to chose from. 2002 WCSF (29/17/5/3 vs. Lakers), 2003 WCF (28/17/6/3 vs. Mavs), 2003 Finals (24/17/5/5 vs. Nets), 2006 WCSF (33/12/4/3 vs. Mavs). I'd probably go with the 03 Mavs series just for sheer dominance (in the three games against Dirk he put up 35/18/7/3 on 62%).
Manu: 2005 WCF vs. Suns (23/6/5/.601 TS%) or 2005 Finals vs. Pistons.
Tony: 2013 WCF vs. Memphis (24/4/10/.586 TS%) or 2008 WCR1 vs. Suns (29/3/7/.580 TS%)

Which ones would you go with?

[T_L_P]

Also, I think Tim's series against the Sonics in 02 gets underrated (probably because nobody watched it). He averaged 26 PPG, 11 RPG, 6 APG, and 6 BPG for the series. That is insane!

Little tidbit: Tim missed one of the games in the Sonics series because his father died. That is the only Playoff game he's missed besides the 00 Suns series (because he was injured).

[100%duncan]

2006 Mavs Tim has to be up there also, too bad manu fucked up.

[Pauleta14]

What about Tony's 2007 Finals?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Tim - 2003 Nets
Manu - 2005 Pistons
Tony - 2007 Cavs

[J.T.]

Tim - 2003 Nets
Manu - 2005 Pistons
Tony - 2007 Cavs

Prob this. Tony would have had 2013 Heat if they closed that series. He came up clutch on one leg in Game 6 there at the end until the Ray Allen fiasco.

[urunobili]

05 Manu vs. Sonics was pretty epic too...

[hooperflash]

Manu vs Denver was awesome in the past :lol

[ElNono]

IIRC Manu had some terrific series also against Utah back when they used to be decent

[T_L_P]

What about Tony's 2007 Finals?

It's up there, but I think he played better against the Grizzlies and the Grizzlies were a better team than those trash Cavs.

Disagree about 2013 Finals. 16/2/6 on .472 TS% isn't that impressive, even if he did hit some huge shots.

[ElNono]

Talking about the 2007 Finals, I was rewatching some of those games the other day, and I didn't remember Gino dropping 27pts in the closeout game... terrific outing that night

[GSH]

It may not have been his best, but last season against the Clippers was one of Tim's most memorable for me. He put the entire team on his shoulders and carried them. And he single-handedly fought off those two big beasts they had in the middle. At his age, that was an epic performance. Heroic stuff.

It's a shame it got overshadowed by the fact that the Spurs lost the series.

[From Downtown]

Talking about the 2007 Finals, I was rewatching some of those games the other day, and I didn't remember Gino dropping 27pts in the closeout game... terrific outing that night
Back when he used to go 2-2 from the FT line :lol:bobo

[DAF86]

Prob this. Tony would have had 2013 Heat if they closed that series. He came up clutch on one leg in Game 6 there at the end until the Ray Allen fiasco.

The fuck? :lol

Some folks have Tony's perfomances on that series all fucked up because of a couple of clutch shots. He was abysmal on that series, specially for the way he was playing up until that point.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

IIRC Manu had some terrific series also against Utah back when they used to be decent
heh? we only had 2 series against Utah in the Manu era, the second of which occurred wayyyy past Manu's prime


Manu's best series outside the 2005 Finals came against Denver and Phoenix in 2005 and 2007

[TDfan2007]

It may not have been his best, but last season against the Clippers was one of Tim's most memorable for me. He put the entire team on his shoulders and carried them. And he single-handedly fought off those two big beasts they had in the middle. At his age, that was an epic performance. Heroic stuff.

It's a shame it got overshadowed by the fact that the Spurs lost the series.

Yup. It's an emotional favorite for me along with 06 against the Mavs and 05 against the Pistons (one of the few epic series where we actually came out on top lol)

[baseline bum]

Damn everyone forgets how out of his mind Parker was playing in the 2009 playoff series vs Dallas.

Tim Duncan: 2003 Finals vs New Jersey - 24.2 ppg, 17.6 reb, 5.3 blk, 5.3 ast, 49.5% FG
Manu Ginobili: 2005 WCF vs Phoenix - 22.2 ppg, 6.2 reb, 0.2 blk, 4.8 ast, 49.4% FG
Tony Parker: 2009 WCQF vs Dallas - 28.6 ppg, 4.2 reb, 0.2 blk, 6.8 ast, 54.6% FG

[TDfan2007]

Timmy - 03 vs. LA and 03 vs. Nets (tie)
Manu - 05 against Detroit
Tony - 08 vs. Phx and 13 vs. Grizzlies (tie)

[ElNono]

heh? we only had 2 series against Utah in the Manu era, the second of which occurred wayyyy past Manu's prime

Manu's best series outside the 2005 Finals came against Denver and Phoenix in 2005 and 2007

You are right, I'm probably confused with somebody else. Agreed about Phoenix.

[TDfan2007]

Damn everyone forgets how out of his mind Parker was playing in the 2009 playoff series vs Dallas.

Tim Duncan: 2003 Finals vs New Jersey - 24.2 ppg, 17.6 reb, 5.3 blk, 5.3 ast, 49.5% FG
Manu Ginobili: 2005 WCF vs Phoenix - 22.2 ppg, 6.2 reb, 0.2 blk, 4.8 ast, 49.4% FG
Tony Parker: 2009 WCQF vs Dallas - 28.6 ppg, 4.2 reb, 0.2 blk, 6.8 ast, 54.6% FG

Tony was great for the first 4 games of that series, but he disappeared in game 5, especially toward the end. Plus, we lost the series pretty handily...

[baseline bum]

heh? we only had 2 series against Utah in the Manu era, the second of which occurred wayyyy past Manu's prime


Manu's best series outside the 2005 Finals came against Denver and Phoenix in 2005 and 2007

Surprisingly Manu's stats weren't that great in the 2007 WCSF vs Phoenix. It threw me off because I remember his dominant performance in Game 6; it was probably the greatest game Manu ever played (33 pts, 11 reb, 6 ast, 4 stl, 11-17 FG), and it was the title clincher.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200705180SAS.html

[baseline bum]

Tony was great for the first 4 games of that series, but he disappeared in game 5, especially toward the end. Plus, we lost the series pretty handily...

That wasn't Parker's fault, that was the Finley / Mason / Udoka era and Manu didn't play a second of the playoffs.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Surprisingly Manu's stats weren't that great in the 2007 WCSF vs Phoenix. It threw me off because I remember his dominant performance in Game 6; it was probably the greatest game Manu ever played (33 pts, 11 reb, 6 ast, 4 stl, 11-17 FG), and it was the title clincher.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200705180SAS.html
In the playoffs? One of the better ones, but Manu's greatest game ever was in the RS against Phoenix on 1/21/2005. Spurs came back from 19 down to win in OT & Manu scored like 48 or 49 points IIRC.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

That wasn't Parker's fault, that was the Finley / Mason / Udoka era and Manu didn't play a second of the playoffs.
yeah, Manu was out, Duncan was playing on one leg and Bowen was mostly injured/planning his retirement. Drew Gooden was the starting center. Spurs had no chance

[Johnny RIngo]

The fuck? :lol

Some folks have Tony's perfomances on that series all fucked up because of a couple of clutch shots. He was abysmal on that series, specially for the way he was playing up until that point.

Yup. Dude got outplayed by Mario fucking Chalmers in games 6 and 7. Doesn't get anymore embarrassing than that for someone that was supposed to be the Spurs best player that year.

[baseline bum]

In the playoffs? One of the better ones, but Manu's greatest game ever was in the RS against Phoenix on 1/21/2005. Spurs came back from 19 down to win in OT & Manu scored like 48 or 49 points IIRC.

I'm still taking Game 6 in 07. Games don't get any more important than that one, and Manu played a killer all around game to clinch the 07 title. I still remember how Phoenix was right there to force a Game 7 and then Manu went HAM to end the third and begin the fourth, and that was game and season.

[baseline bum]

Yup. Dude got outplayed by Mario fucking Chalmers in games 6 and 7. Doesn't get anymore embarrassing than that for someone that was supposed to be the Spurs best player that year.

Parker was playing on one leg the second half of the series and still hit the two biggest shots that everyone would remember if it wasn't for missed free throws by Ginobili and Leonard.

[DAF86]

Parker was playing on one leg the second half of the series and still hit the two biggest shots that everyone would remember if it wasn't for missed free throws by Ginobili and Leonard.

Still doesn't mean that his '13 finals can be placed among his best series ever, tbh. :lol

And if he was on one leg why the fuck did he chuck 23 shots getting specailly bad at the end of the 3rd/start of the 4th when the Spurs had created a double digit lead by moving the ball? Sorry, but the Kobe Bryant style of clutch doesn't fly with me.

[baseline bum]

Still doesn't mean that his '13 finals can be placed among his best series ever, tbh. :lol

And if he was on one leg why the fuck did he chuck 23 shots getting specailly bad at the end of the 3rd/start of the 4th when the Spurs had created a double digit by moving the ball? Sorry but the Kobe Bryant style of clutch doesn't fly with me.

Manu and Splitter were the ones killing the Spurs when they blew that lead to begin the fourth in 6.

[DAF86]

Manu and Splitter were the ones killing the Spurs when they blew that lead to begin the fourth in 6.

It was a combination of many things but Parker's "drible, drible, drible chuck" trying to steal finals MVP when he thought the thing was sealed was one of the most important ones. I vividly remember cussing at the TV for Tony to stop hogging the ball.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I'm still taking Game 6 in 07. Games don't get any more important than that one, and Manu played a killer all around game to clinch the 07 title. I still remember how Phoenix was right there to force a Game 7 and then Manu went HAM to end the third and begin the fourth, and that was game and season.
Yeah... once we got past the Suns the Spurs had the championship in the bag.

[baseline bum]

It was a combination of many things but Parker's "drible, drible, drible chuck" trying to steal finals MVP when he thought the thing was sealed was one of the most important ones. I vividly remember cussing at the TV for Tony to stop hogging the ball.

LOL yeah, it wasn't Manu repeatedly throwing the ball to LeBron and then missing a free throw that would have won the title.

[Johnny RIngo]

Parker shot 6-23 in game 6. 3-12 in game 7. If that's his best series, I don't want to know what the fuck his worst series is.

[DAF86]

LOL yeah, it wasn't Manu repeatedly throwing the ball to LeBron and then missing a free throw that would have won the title.

I already said it was a combination of many things. I also remember screaming at my TV for Pop to bench the shit out of Manu but nobody comes here pretending like Manu played a good series, tbh.

[GSH]

The '07 WCF, Deron Williams was playing the best ball of his career. Him and Boozer together were damned tough. Parker just cut their hearts out. The Spurs destroyed the Cavs in the Finals, but Utah was the better team. For my money, that was Tony's best series ever.



In the playoffs? One of the better ones, but Manu's greatest game ever was in the RS against Phoenix on 1/21/2005. Spurs came back from 19 down to win in OT & Manu scored like 48 or 49 points IIRC.

He didn't score as many points, but there was a game against Dallas in '07 when Tim was out. Bowen shot a big goose-egg for the game, and Oberto and Elson in the starting lineup weren't much help. Manu scored close to 40, and just willed the team to a win.

Both of those were great performances. I liked the one without Tim, because it was almost exclusively him who won that game.

[J.T.]

The fuck? :lol

Some folks have Tony's perfomances on that series all fucked up because of a couple of clutch shots. He was abysmal on that series, specially for the way he was playing up until that point.

I think it has more to do with Spurs fans just not wanting to fucking remember that series so only the good things stand out. But I don't know shit about basketball other than you need to put the ball through the hoop more times than the other team to win.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

He didn't score as many points, but there was a game against Dallas in '07 when Tim was out. Bowen shot a big goose-egg for the game, and Oberto and Elson in the starting lineup weren't much help. Manu scored close to 40, and just willed the team to a win.

That was in the 07-08 season, the one that ended in bowing out to the Lakers. Manu had 37 points including a top 10 all-time NBA dunk in the third quarter (Bill: "OH MANU HOW ABOUT THAT SUCKER and amazed that no foul was called"; Sean: "Well get a towel and wipe the spit off that one, DeSagana Diop")... We went from being down 12 in the first half to up 12 early in the 4th quarter to almost losing it in the end but Dirk missed an open corner 3 at the buzzer which would have won it.

[TDfan2007]

Manu and Splitter were the ones killing the Spurs when they blew that lead to begin the fourth in 6.

TD had 25 in the first half and the Heat had no answer for him. In the second half the Spurs went away from what got them their lead. Tony especially. He forced way too many shots for a guy who was playing hurt. But yes, Manu and Splitter were garbage in that game. Ugh...

[TDfan2007]

Surprisingly Manu's stats weren't that great in the 2007 WCSF vs Phoenix. It threw me off because I remember his dominant performance in Game 6; it was probably the greatest game Manu ever played (33 pts, 11 reb, 6 ast, 4 stl, 11-17 FG), and it was the title clincher.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200705180SAS.html

I forgot how amazing Manu was in that game. The big 3 all stepped up in a big way in that clincher. It's crazy to think that despite all of their years together, there were only 2 postseason runs where all 3 were healthy and in their primes, 2006 and 2007. What could have been...

[Leetonidas]

Tim: entire 2003 playoff run
Manu: 2005 Denver was my favorite
Parker: I think he went apeshit one year vs. Dallas when the spurs were old and injured I wanna say 2009 without looking it up

[DAF86]

Parker: I think he went apeshit one year vs. Dallas when the spurs were old and injured I wanna say 2009 without looking it up

Yeah, Manu was out and MVParker had to step up. We lost that series though.

[emanueldavidginobili]

My god he was so good


http://youtu.be/h3_pkEiF09A

[emanueldavidginobili]

That was in the 07-08 season, the one that ended in bowing out to the Lakers. Manu had 37 points including a top 10 all-time NBA dunk in the third quarter (Bill: "OH MANU HOW ABOUT THAT SUCKER and amazed that no foul was called"; Sean: "Well get a towel and wipe the spit off that one, DeSagana Diop")... We went from being down 12 in the first half to up 12 early in the 4th quarter to almost losing it in the end but Dirk missed an open corner 3 at the buzzer which would have won it.

Yeah I remember that, it was amazing. Manu the very next game scored 37 again vs the Jazz

[2centsworth]

05 Manu vs. Sonics was pretty epic too...
That's my pick.
tim: '03 nets
manu:'05 sonics
tony: '07 cavs

[cd021]

2006 Mavs Tim has to be up there also, too bad manu fucked up.
:depressed
Duncan went godmode in Game 7.
Duncan- 12-24 FG, 17-23 FT, 15 Rebs, 6 Asts, 3 blks.

If i remember correctly, he hit his first 11 shots.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=260522024

Big 3 scored 88 points on 55 shots:wow

[cd021]

Tim: entire 2003 playoff run
Manu: 2005 Denver was my favorite
Parker: I think he went apeshit one year vs. Dallas when the spurs were old and injured I wanna say 2009 without looking it up

Pretty sure it was '09. That was Parkers best series. I consider that series the beginning of the second act of the Spurs era. Alot of pick and rolls and much less of Duncan post ups. Parker was filthy in that series. He ran out of gas because he had to carry the team.

[cd021]

My god he was so good


http://youtu.be/h3_pkEiF09A

I watched the Cavs Spurs elimation game ( 2007 Game 4) i forgot just how good he was. Nailing threes, knifing his way to the rim, throwing ridicoulous passes.

[TDfan2007]

:depressed
Duncan went godmode in Game 7.
Duncan- 12-24 FG, 17-23 FT, 15 Rebs, 6 Asts, 3 blks.

If i remember correctly, he hit his first 11 shots.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=260522024

Big 3 scored 88 points on 55 shots:wow

He hit his first 11 shots in game 5. Timmy was legendary in that series.

[SASdynasty!]

Yup. Dude got outplayed by Mario fucking Chalmers in games 6 and 7. Doesn't get anymore embarrassing than that for someone that was supposed to be the Spurs best player that year.
Are we still on the Mario Chalmers outplayed Parker narrative? Let me refresh everyone:

Series:

Parker: 15.7 PPG, 6.4 APG, 1.9 RPG, 1.0 SPG, 2.1 TOV, on 41% shooting
Chalmers: 10.6 PPG, 2.1 APG, 2.7 RPG, 0.7 SPG, 2.6 TOV, on 39% shooting

No one would argue that the 2013 Finals was Parker's best series, but to act like he got outplayed by Mario Chalmers is dumb. And if you're going to cherry-pick a few individual games that Chalmers "outplayed" Parker...if that's the worst you have to use against someone...individual game...man please don't take up a career in player analysis. You might drive yourself pretty crazy. But just to address your statements, let's look at the facts:

Just Games 6 & 7:

Parker: 14.5 PPG, 6.0 APG, 1.5 RPG, 2.5 SPG, 1.0 TOV, on 26% shooting
Chalmers: 17.0 PPG, 2.0 APG, 2.0 RPG, 1.0 SPG, 3.5 TOV, on 50% shooting

Yah, Chalmers had a pretty good G6&7...pretty much outplayed most Spurs for that matter. But it's always funny when people do that for individual games. By that standard, Kawhi got outplayed by Matt Barnes last year in G7 and by Thabo Sefalosha in G6 of the OKC series we lost.

I mean seriously? Here was Kawhi's stat line in OVER 40 minutes of play that game: 5 pts, 2 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl on 29% shooting. Meanwhile Parker goes for 29/12 in that closeout game. You can cherry-pick any player for any series, even in closeout games. It's not hard.

[GSH]

Are we still on the Mario Chalmers outplayed Parker narrative? Let me refresh everyone:

Series:

Parker: 15.7 PPG, 6.4 APG, 1.9 RPG, 1.0 SPG, 2.1 TOV, on 41% shooting
Chalmers: 10.6 PPG, 2.1 APG, 2.7 RPG, 0.7 SPG, 2.6 TOV, on 39% shooting

No one would argue that the 2013 Finals was Parker's best series, but to act like he got outplayed by Mario Chalmers is dumb. And if you're going to cherry-pick a few individual games that Chalmers "outplayed" Parker...if that's the worst you have to use against someone...individual game...man please don't take up a career in player analysis. You might drive yourself pretty crazy. But just to address your statements, let's look at the facts:

Just Games 6 & 7:

Parker: 14.5 PPG, 6.0 APG, 1.5 RPG, 2.5 SPG, 1.0 TOV, on 26% shooting
Chalmers: 17.0 PPG, 2.0 APG, 2.0 RPG, 1.0 SPG, 3.5 TOV, on 50% shooting



No amount of logic or facts are ever going to fix stupid.

Good logic and facts, BTW.

[kaji157]

Are we still on the Mario Chalmers outplayed Parker narrative? Let me refresh everyone:

Series:

Parker: 15.7 PPG, 6.4 APG, 1.9 RPG, 1.0 SPG, 2.1 TOV, on 41% shooting
Chalmers: 10.6 PPG, 2.1 APG, 2.7 RPG, 0.7 SPG, 2.6 TOV, on 39% shooting

No one would argue that the 2013 Finals was Parker's best series, but to act like he got outplayed by Mario Chalmers is dumb. And if you're going to cherry-pick a few individual games that Chalmers "outplayed" Parker...if that's the worst you have to use against someone...individual game...man please don't take up a career in player analysis. You might drive yourself pretty crazy. But just to address your statements, let's look at the facts:

Just Games 6 & 7:

Parker: 14.5 PPG, 6.0 APG, 1.5 RPG, 2.5 SPG, 1.0 TOV, on 26% shooting
Chalmers: 17.0 PPG, 2.0 APG, 2.0 RPG, 1.0 SPG, 3.5 TOV, on 50% shooting

Yah, Chalmers had a pretty good G6&7...pretty much outplayed most Spurs for that matter. But it's always funny when people do that for individual games. By that standard, Kawhi got outplayed by Matt Barnes last year in G7 and by Thabo Sefalosha in G6 of the OKC series we lost.

I mean seriously? Here was Kawhi's stat line in OVER 40 minutes of play that game: 5 pts, 2 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl on 29% shooting. Meanwhile Parker goes for 29/12 in that closeout game. You can cherry-pick any player for any series, even in closeout games. It's not hard.

I think what people argues here is while Parker was arguably the Spurs best players, Mario Chalmers was a scrub in Miami´s elite team.

No one here thinks that Chalmers outplayed anyone, just that being Parker his main cover and containing him for 26% for the two most important games of the series is pretty bad on Parker.

[SASdynasty!]

I think what people argues here is while Parker was arguably the Spurs best players, Mario Chalmers was a scrub in Miami´s elite team.

No one here thinks that Chalmers outplayed anyone, just that being Parker his main cover and containing him for 26% for the two most important games of the series is pretty bad on Parker.
Game 5 was just as important when Parker went off.

[kaji157]

Game 5 was just as important when Parker went off.

What?

Didn´t Manu went off in that game?

[SASdynasty!]

What?

Didn´t Manu went off in that game?
Yes he did, almost scored as much as Parker but on much worse shooting.

You guys really have blocked Parker's big games out of your memories. It's weird.