Best stat of the night: Spurs had 32 assists vs the 76ers

[Mr Bones]

Every single player that saw floor time had at least one assist...

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400828192

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Not the best stat of the night but I like it

[Silver&Black]

Nice stat...but I prefer:

Nik Stauskas with the +/- of -43.

How the fck is that even possible?

[tholdren]

Nice stat...but I prefer:

Nik Stauskas with the +/- of -43.

How the fck is that even possible?

The problem with that shit stat

[tholdren]

32 assists and no leonard.... who would thought

[Silver&Black]

Jesus Christ...

You can't say one thing about the +/- stat without someone coming in and talking shit about it. I know it's not the greatest stat, but gotdamnit they keep up with it in every boxscore. And when I see a -41 I'm going to :lol at the guy who did it.

[tholdren]

Jesus Christ...

You can't say one thing about the +/- stat without someone coming in and talking shit about it. I know it's not the greatest stat, but gotdamnit they keep up with it in every boxscore. And when I see a -41 I'm going to :lol at the guy who did it.

Worst evidence ever is plus minus, it's such a terrible concept. Your guy had one of the best games for 76ers lowest pm. Boban best game of his career second lowest pm on team.... stop using shit numbers

[Uriel]

The best stat of the night is that the Spurs won by 51, tbh.

[BillMc]

Every single player that saw floor time had at least one assist...

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400828192

Yeah, that's amazing. That can't happen very often.

[vander]

+/- actually fucking happens, this ain't no BS stat like WS or PER. when that guy was on the court, the 76ers actually got outscored by 43 points, the very same points that are used to determine who wins the game! how many times does this have to be stated?

[steeledl]

+/- actually fucking happens, this ain't no BS stat like WS or PER. when that guy was on the court, the 76ers actually got outscored by 43 points, the very same points that are used to determine who wins the game! how many times does this have to be stated?

It is a shitty stat when it is used to determine a players value because it doesn't account for many other variables. Too many stupid fans use it to try to win arguments.

[Galileo]

Nice stat...but I prefer:

Nik Stauskas with the +/- of -43.

How the fck is that even possible?

and he only played 25 minutes!

:lmao

[vander]

It is a shitty stat when it is used to determine a players value because it doesn't account for many other variables. Too many stupid fans use it to try to win arguments.

over the course of 82 games all variables are properly accounted for. no one watches this game and expects 18 ppg from Boban. no one watches this game and expects every game that Stauskas plays in to result in a 43 point loss

[steeledl]

over the course of 82 games all variables are properly accounted for. no one watches this game and expects 18 ppg from Boban. no one watches this game and expects every game that Stauskas plays in to result in a 43 point loss

Hardly. A lot of the variables are determined by rotation and matchups.... for instance, Kawhi will be on the floor more when players like Durant are on the court. I mean.... just one simple example that skews the statistic but the list can go on forever.

[vander]

Hardly. A lot of the variables are determined by rotation and matchups.... for instance, Kawhi will be on the floor more when players like Durant are on the court. I mean.... just one simple example that skews the statistic but the list can go on forever.

nope that's the only one: comparing starters to bench players, stars to role players, etc. +/- doesn't do any good comparing Kawhi to Boban, only kawhi to other starters, how worthless...

[steeledl]

nope that's the only one: comparing starters to bench players, stars to role players, etc. +/- doesn't do any good comparing Kawhi to Boban, only kawhi to other starters, how worthless...

I can think of another one right off the top of my head... Tim Duncan is less likely to play against bad teams than (ex. tonight) than someone like Lamarcus Aldridge. Both starters.

[Galileo]

Every single player that saw floor time had at least one assist...

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400828192

Each of the 12 Spurs who played had at least 1 point and 1 rebound as well. This is not a record, however. The Spurs had a game about 2 years ago where all 13 players (the max) had at least one point, rebound, and assist).

[steeledl]

+/- actually fucking happens, this ain't no BS stat like WS or PER. when that guy was on the court, the 76ers actually got outscored by 43 points, the very same points that are used to determine who wins the game! how many times does this have to be stated?

Another variable would be depth at certain positions. More depth at PG= less minutes, more fresh.... less likely to have to play a lot of minutes against other elite point guards. Less depth at point guard and you can reverse all of those advantages.

[vander]

I can think of another one right off the top of my head... Tim Duncan is less likely to play against bad teams than (ex. tonight) than someone like Lamarcus Aldridge. Both starters.

and if LMA can win (positive +/-) without TD, why shouldn't the stats reflect that in a positive way? fact is TD didn't play, LMA did, spurs won, stat reflects reality.

[steeledl]

and if LMA can win (positive +/-) without TD, why shouldn't the stats reflect that in a positive way? fact is TD didn't play, LMA did, spurs won, stat reflects reality.

But the +/- being used as a metric to value to a player is skewed.

[Mr Bones]

The best stat of the night is that the Spurs won by 51, tbh.

Yeah that's a pretty good one too!

[vander]

But the +/- being used as a metric to value to a player is skewed.

every stat is skewed, what perfect stat are you comparing +/- to here? and it's not really even that skewed, if TD were to play those games against bad teams he would wear down and his +/- would suffer in other games...

[steeledl]

every stat is skewed, what perfect stat are you comparing +/- to here? and it's not really even that skewed, if TD were to play those games against bad teams he would wear down and his +/- would suffer in other games...


I agree You insulated that the stat was without flaw... all statistics have their place.... but this isn't even that great of one.