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lefty
12-08-2015, 04:44 PM
Not yet
But I will
Pauly D
12-10-2015, 02:38 AM
No. I'm not a manchild
Kim Jong-il
12-10-2015, 04:56 AM
No. I'm not a manchild
Please tell me you wrote this ironically.
lefty
12-10-2015, 08:54 AM
Please tell me you wrote this ironically.
:lol
lefty
12-10-2015, 08:58 AM
New shots in this trailer
:cry det Millenium Falcon sequence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECYgD7zylrE
Blake
12-10-2015, 09:12 AM
I'm still butthurt over phantom menace. I'll wait until late January or February to see it.
I've only watched the teaser last year. Haven't watched anything since. Don't watch any star wars commercials, youtube, read articles, nothing. I want to walk into this movie with a completely blank slate.
RandomGuy
12-10-2015, 09:21 AM
Anyone got tickets?
Booyah. Wife got 'em months ago. That's how I know she loves me. :D
lefty
12-10-2015, 09:30 AM
I've only watched the teaser last year. Haven't watched anything since. Don't watch any star wars commercials, youtube, read articles, nothing. I want to walk into this movie with a completely blank slate.
The video I just posted has new footage
You will watch the video.
Move along.
Blake
12-10-2015, 09:42 AM
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DisAsTerBot
12-10-2015, 10:27 AM
Please tell me you wrote this ironically.
:lol
gambit1990
12-10-2015, 11:36 AM
i can see it at midnight if i want but i'd have to sit in the fourth row from the front :depressed so i'm actually considering waiting. it'd be at the imax... is fourth row in the imax worse/better/the same than fourth row in a regular theater?
lefty
12-10-2015, 01:01 PM
Man that vintage Han Solo in that latest trailer
I got Sunday morning Imax 9:15. I'm expecting crowds but hopefully that crowd will be less hectic.
lefty
12-10-2015, 02:33 PM
FUck I want to watch this ASAP but at the same time I want to avoid those dumb kids
Oh well there will always be dumbkinds especially with the holidays around
DisAsTerBot
12-10-2015, 02:36 PM
friday evening at the draft house
Pauly D
12-10-2015, 04:44 PM
You know a franchise is stupid when the OG cast hates it. Alec Guinness thought of it as a joke and Ford and Fischer pretty much see it as a paycheck
lefty
12-10-2015, 05:11 PM
You know a franchise is stupid when the OG cast hates it. Alec Guinness thought of it as a joke and Ford and Fischer pretty much see it as a paycheck
Well AG was already senile
And of course anyone is gonna enjoy a good paycheck :lol , especially in the 70s
Boogie Munster
12-10-2015, 08:09 PM
My friend works as a projectionist at a local theater. They always screen movies for the employees days before the Thursday midnight screenings. Hoping to catch it next Tuesday without 100 loud kids.
FUck I want to watch this ASAP but at the same time I want to avoid those dumb kids
Oh well there will always be dumbkinds especially with the holidays around
Just buy a ticket for a 10PM or later viewing, son.
lefty
12-10-2015, 10:43 PM
Just buy a ticket for a 10PM or later viewing, son.
Likely to have some retarded teens making noise with their chips bags and sandwiches alu wraps, or laughing at some stupid shit
"zomg hahahahahahahhahahahahaha so funny"
lefty
12-11-2015, 12:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/bqTHokA.jpg
Pauly D
12-11-2015, 12:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/bqTHokA.jpg
lol
HI-FI
12-11-2015, 10:11 PM
Haven't bought tickets. As flawed as the prequels were, I still was there opening weekend, but for ep. 7, I'm in no rush. I'm sure the film will be enjoyable, but I'm just not that excited. Also don't like that Disney is going to crank them out every two years.
ChumpDumper
12-11-2015, 10:59 PM
It's going to be at the Bullock IMAX all of January. I'll see it on a weeknight after the holidays.
Xevious
12-12-2015, 04:22 AM
Not in a big rush. Will take the kids after the initial crowd dies down.
Going with my bro to see this shit. Late.
round midnight or so.
Texas_Ranger
12-12-2015, 12:17 PM
Wednesday midnight premiere... I just hope it's good.
Pauly D
12-12-2015, 12:33 PM
Why in the fuck would grown ass men care so much about a kid's movie aimed to sell toys? Especially since there hasn't been a good one since Empire
Texas_Ranger
12-12-2015, 10:39 PM
Why in the fuck would grown ass men care so much about a kid's movie aimed to sell toys? Especially since there hasn't been a good one since Empire
Return was good and Revenge was OK... but yea, no great one has come in 35 years. At least this one is rated PG13, so it's not really for little kids, and from everthing that I saw it doesn't look childish.
Why in the fuck would grown ass men care so much about a kid's movie aimed to sell toys? Especially since there hasn't been a good one since Empire
Why would you go watch any movie on theaters? Cool logic.
DJR210
12-12-2015, 11:19 PM
Why in the fuck would grown ass men care so much about a kid's movie aimed to sell toys? Especially since there hasn't been a good one since Empire
People have different interests.. Like you are interested in child pornography, necrophilia, watersports, and beastiality.
People have different interests.. Like you are interested in child pornography, necrophilia, watersports, and beastiality.
:lol
Pauly D
12-13-2015, 09:32 AM
Why would you go watch any movie on theaters? Cool logic.
what? Cause they're not aimed at kids maybe?
At least this one is rated PG13, so it's not really for little kids, and from everthing that I saw it doesn't look childish.
Only cause the MPAA is more strict and they know a pg-13 will sell a lot more than PG. And if that mattered there wouldn't still be unreal amounts of merch being sold. But then again I keep seeing fucking adults talking about getting their stupid little BB-8 thing, strategically given a cutesy little name
People have different interests.. Like you are interested in child pornography, necrophilia, watersports, and beastiality.
None of that is true tho
hater
12-13-2015, 10:18 AM
Lame movie. Might take d nephews if they behave tbh but still looms dumb.
Dumb question. Will this shitfest be shown in 3D or just 2D??
Texas_Ranger
12-13-2015, 10:59 AM
Only cause the MPAA is more strict and they know a pg-13 will sell a lot more than PG. And if that mattered there wouldn't still be unreal amounts of merch being sold. But then again I keep seeing fucking adults talking about getting their stupid little BB-8 thing, strategically given a cutesy little name
Agree with that. I don't get it why would someone want to spend 200$ (that's the cost here in Europe) for a small toy like that.
Trainwreck2100
12-13-2015, 01:28 PM
Haven't bought tickets. As flawed as the prequels were, I still was there opening weekend, but for ep. 7, I'm in no rush. I'm sure the film will be enjoyable, but I'm just not that excited. Also don't like that Disney is going to crank them out every two years.
the affirmative action protagonists don't do much to broaden the appeal for me
hater
12-13-2015, 02:03 PM
Yeah its kinda lame Disney went with the black actor. If they really wanted to go affirmative action they shoulda made a wookie protagonist or even an eewok. Can u imagine an ewok Jedi.
Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-13-2015, 06:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/91DWTfT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Irkp6F0.jpg
HI-FI
12-13-2015, 06:09 PM
the affirmative action protagonists don't do much to broaden the appeal for me
cosigned. Sounds like Disney threw out Lucas' treatments and wanted a female protagonist to capitalize on Hunger Games. I'd rather go with Lucas wonky ideas than PC shit designed by corporate committees but that's how it goes.
My biggest issue is the visuals look off, Lucas was bad with actors and dialogue but great with editing and cinematography.
Yeah its kinda lame Disney went with the black actor. If they really wanted to go affirmative action they shoulda made a wookie protagonist or even an eewok. Can u imagine an ewok Jedi.
:lol an ewok Jedi would be memorable.
benefactor
12-13-2015, 06:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/91DWTfT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Irkp6F0.jpg
:lol
what? Cause they're not aimed at kids maybe?
Wrong.
People go to the movies to be entertained.
Going to see this movie is no different than going to see a Marvels movie, or a drama etc.
Just like people from kids to adults like to play video games.
Also, I'll give you an example..
If you go to a little league game, does that mean you cant enjoy it because you're a growm ass man watching a kid's game?
It's called entertainment for a reason guy.
Pauly D
12-13-2015, 10:44 PM
If you go to a little league game, does that mean you cant enjoy it because you're a growm ass man watching a kid's game?
Lmao that's exactly what I'm saying. You find it entertaining to watch kids play sports? How bout some quality, for fuck's sake?
lefty
12-13-2015, 10:49 PM
:lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZMwVD_q-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8RzQoMhgg
AlexJones
12-13-2015, 10:53 PM
A 6 part flick series with only 2 of them that are actually good tbh
lefty20
12-14-2015, 05:37 AM
A 6 part flick series with only 2 of them that are actually good tbh
Idk if i'd even say that. While the terrible CGI is understandable, given when it was made. The original trilogy did have some super shitty script writing and acting. I've seen better acting in shows like Arrow/Flash, and those are considered to be well below average when compared to good ones like Homeland/Breaking Bad.
PS - I only saw the original trilogy for the first time last year. Haven't seen the prequel trilogy yet as most people claim they are even shittier than the first three.
lefty20
12-14-2015, 05:42 AM
Also the lightsaber duels were lame as fuck. It literally looked like a 5yr old came up with the fight sequences.
I might wait till the theaters become less packed to watch it. Too many kids makes the movie less enjoyable.
A 6 part flick series with only 2 of them that are actually good tbh
All of the original trilogy movies were good. All of prequel trilogy movies were pretty weak.
lefty
12-14-2015, 12:24 PM
All of the original trilogy movies were good. All of prequel trilogy movies were pretty weak.
Episodes 3 and 4 were great, but ROTJ was Ok imo
Revenge of the Sith was the best one of the prequels (and I'm currently watching Clone Wars from 2008, which takes place between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith).
Attack of the Clones would have been great if 95% of the movie wan't about Anakin and Padme gay shit.
The Phantom Menace was a bit unnecessary imo; and is Qui-Gon the most retarded Jedi ever? I did like the fight scene vs Darth Maul, even though the latter had the high ground on Obiwan .... I mean it's not like Obiwan didn't have the high ground vs Anakin :lol
DarrinS
12-14-2015, 12:35 PM
I was super excited about seeing the first three at the theaters, but then again, I was 8 when the first one came out. I'll wait until it's streamable, tbh.
DarrinS
12-14-2015, 12:53 PM
This actually happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiY4Ur99U3g
lefty
12-14-2015, 12:56 PM
http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/25646000/ngbbs55fa3db4055d8.jpg
This actually happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiY4Ur99U3g
Melissa Harris-Perry is just terrible.
Texas_Ranger
12-14-2015, 01:25 PM
Haven't bought tickets. As flawed as the prequels were, I still was there opening weekend, but for ep. 7, I'm in no rush. I'm sure the film will be enjoyable, but I'm just not that excited. Also don't like that Disney is going to crank them out every two years.
Actualy they are coming out every year for the next 6 years. There are those 3 anthology films.
Aztecfan03
12-14-2015, 01:50 PM
This actually happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiY4Ur99U3g
don't know how a black guy could have been the father of luke and leia.
HI-FI
12-15-2015, 01:30 AM
Episodes 3 and 4 were great, but ROTJ was Ok imo
Revenge of the Sith was the best one of the prequels (and I'm currently watching Clone Wars from 2008, which takes place between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith).
Attack of the Clones would have been great if 95% of the movie wan't about Anakin and Padme gay shit.
The Phantom Menace was a bit unnecessary imo; and is Qui-Gon the most retarded Jedi ever? I did like the fight scene vs Darth Maul, even though the latter had the high ground on Obiwan .... I mean it's not like Obiwan didn't have the high ground vs Anakin :lol
:lol i never thought about that high ground argument. fuck I swear Lucas could've just sat down with some writers and hashed shit out better. There are some great ideas and sequences in those films, but the execution never quite comes together.
I still like Revenge a lot, as much as the originals. Jedi is strange, I never minded the Ewoks, I just think the pacing is off for a SW film, like a few places it drags. But the third act is fucking badass.
Actualy they are coming out every year for the next 6 years. There are those 3 anthology films.
shit that's even worse. I think it's good to give a film a few years in between, Dark Knight had like 3 years in between, four I think for TDKR. But Disney will strike the iron while it's hot til people are sick of something. Only good I can think of is John Williams is up there in age so maybe they don't want to push it.
AlexJones
12-15-2015, 08:08 AM
http://i.4cdn.org/tv/1450183130787.png
AlexJones
12-15-2015, 08:09 AM
:lol cuck wars
:lol Jew Jew still can't make a good movie
:lol Lens Flare: The Movie
AlexJones
12-15-2015, 08:43 AM
Here are legit spoilers if you're interested
http://pastebin.com/jcHuwZKT
lefty
12-15-2015, 08:56 AM
Must Not Read
Must Resist
lefty
12-15-2015, 09:08 AM
http://i.imgur.com/R2zYkAj.jpg
lefty
12-15-2015, 09:15 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWROK4UWcAAe0on.jpg
MultiTroll
12-15-2015, 11:47 AM
:lol head pedo nice done lefty.
Darth_Pelican
12-15-2015, 02:22 PM
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12346515_519289381578818_6781406355825897935_n.jpg ?oh=49c578469f30f178e88a297e5c074265&oe=56E4C895
Pauly D
12-15-2015, 02:24 PM
:lol SW fanboys on suicide watch
:lol everyone reaching for something good to say about it on twitter
:lol SW fanboys on suicide watch
:lol everyone reaching for something good to say about it on twitter
Who's this everyone?
jeebus
12-15-2015, 07:16 PM
:lol some hardcore faggotry going on in this thread.
Pauly D
12-15-2015, 07:28 PM
Who's this everyone?
Screencaps of people's tweets after they saw the premiere. Is this where you ask me to post the pics and pretend like it isn't happening? I saw them on /tv/, the most memorable being "Does it have its flaws? Yes. But..." and then goes on to justify mediocrity in a film that had more hype than anything ever
Screencaps of people's tweets after they saw the premiere. Is this where you ask me to post the pics and pretend like it isn't happening? I saw them on /tv/, the most memorable being "Does it have its flaws? Yes. But..." and then goes on to justify mediocrity in a film that had more hype than anything ever
No movie is perfect.
If you're taking what a handful of people are saying as concrete proof this movie sucks without even seeing it yourself, you're talking out of your ass.
Ima let you know on Saturday how this was for me.
lefty
12-15-2015, 09:55 PM
Finally got my tickets for Sunday
Meh , couldnt wait
Movie experience will probably be ruined by some dumb teens
Spur|n|Austin
12-16-2015, 12:11 AM
Finally got my tickets for Sunday
Meh , couldnt wait
Movie experience will probably be ruined by some dumb teens
you going to do IMAX or standard?
lefty
12-16-2015, 08:55 AM
you going to do IMAX or standard?
My theater doesnt have regular IMAX; it was either IMAX 3D or standard for me
IMAX was born here, yet no option for regular IMAX for this movie :lol
Spur|n|Austin
12-16-2015, 11:45 AM
My theater doesnt have regular IMAX; it was either IMAX 3D or standard for me
IMAX was born here, yet no option for regular IMAX for this movie :lol
Standard it is, F 3D imo.
lefty
12-16-2015, 11:56 AM
Standard it is, F 3D imo.
I usually avoid 3D movies, most of them ruin the experience (although Thor 2 and GOTG were not bad in 3D)
A friend of mine wanted to see Cap 2 in 3D, I said NOPE, expecially with the movie's gritty action scenes
He went to see it in 3D anyway and told me it looked murky as fuck :lol
Death In June
12-16-2015, 12:46 PM
Some jerkoff spoiled the movie in a comments section for a trailer. Will never understand the compulsion people feel to be dicks for no reason. Anyway, most of the reviews seem generally positive, with most of the criticism being that it tries to be A New Hope.
lefty
12-16-2015, 01:35 PM
Some jerkoff spoiled the movie in a comments section for a trailer. Will never understand the compulsion people feel to be dicks for no reason. Anyway, most of the reviews seem generally positive, with most of the criticism being that it tries to be A New Hope.
I avoid social media and YT's comment sections when a movie hits the theaters, spoilers are everywhere
benefactor
12-16-2015, 01:35 PM
Just got my ticket for Saturday. It's almost clean sweeping the reviews. I'd actually be surprised if didn't set an opening weekend record.
Spur|n|Austin
12-16-2015, 01:37 PM
I'll be at Bob Bullock IMAX to see it Sunday afternoon - pumped!
lefty
12-16-2015, 01:39 PM
My theater is running a SW marathon, but Im not going as I have recently rewatched the 6logy
http://mediafiles.cineplex.com/Central/Film/Posters/24433_320_470.jpg
By the way, already 100 M in pre-sales :lol
My theater doesnt have regular IMAX; it was either IMAX 3D or standard for me
IMAX was born here, yet no option for regular IMAX for this movie :lol
I wanted to watch it in true IMAX film, but unfortunately, SA Imax only has 3D. Can't stand 3D, but will make the sacrifice to ensure outstanding sound. If a movies sound is off, it ruins the entire movie for me because I can't relax and ignore it.
lefty
12-16-2015, 04:25 PM
The best apporach is to buy all the tickets imo
chunticakes
12-16-2015, 07:29 PM
Some jerkoff spoiled the movie in a comments section for a trailer. Will never understand the compulsion people feel to be dicks for no reason. Anyway, most of the reviews seem generally positive, with most of the criticism being that it tries to be A New Hope.
Yeah I saw a picture on FB and accidentally read a sentence subsequently. I'm trying to suppress that. Fuck these idiots that seek attention like that.
I dont understand why some of you would even think to read the comments on a trailer on youtube or shit. YT is full of retards that live for this stuff. Kind of like Kool does here.
I watch youtube through my PS3 so I dont have to worry about the fucktard comments people make.
Pauly D
12-16-2015, 10:10 PM
Some jerkoff spoiled the movie in a comments section for a trailer. Will never understand the compulsion people feel to be dicks for no reason. Anyway, most of the reviews seem generally positive, with most of the criticism being that it tries to be A New Hope.
Yeah I saw a picture on FB and accidentally read a sentence subsequently. I'm trying to suppress that. Fuck these idiots that seek attention like that.
Don't be such retards next time. What's the fucking purpose of reading shit about a movie before you've seen it? Just fucking wait. It's not hard
lefty
12-16-2015, 10:43 PM
Lol after watching some movie, dont remember which one, there were people next in line , and I was telling my friends "damn cant believe he died in the end" - of course he didnt die, I just wanted to fuck with the audience that was up for the next showing :lol
Karmais a bitch though, so I'm gonna take a pair of noise canceling earbuds with me on Sunday
TrainOfThought5
12-16-2015, 10:49 PM
Spoiler Alert: Hes black
Texas_Ranger
12-16-2015, 11:10 PM
Just saw it. Ok, i could have guessed a lot of the things without the spoilers, but anyway its a great movie. Much better than the prequeles and on par or better than return of the jedi.
Death In June
12-17-2015, 12:18 AM
Don't be such retards next time. What's the fucking purpose of reading shit about a movie before you've seen it? Just fucking wait. It's not hardPaying less than zero attention to some juvenile, fucking idiot on a spurs message board seems to be a better alternative.
djohn2oo8
12-17-2015, 12:24 AM
Just saw it. Ok, i could have guessed a lot of the things without the spoilers, but anyway its a great movie. Much better than the prequeles and on par or better than return of the jedi.
:tu I can't wait to check it out. Seems like these new sequels are better this year.
Xevious
12-17-2015, 01:24 AM
Spoiler Alert: Hes black
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dKoOso8TssI/UDBzBTZs3DI/AAAAAAAAAz8/4LBi-xR752E/s1600/No+that's+impossible+luke+skywalker+crying+vader+i s+his+father.jpg
Blizzardwizard
12-17-2015, 11:28 AM
Saw it last night, really really good. Tops episode 5 for me, constant action, well developed characters and none of the 'confederacy politics talk' from the first two that nobody cared about.
ColinB
12-17-2015, 11:54 AM
Girlfriend got us tickets for Saturday night at the drafthouse. Very excited after all the positive reviews thus far.
Thread
12-17-2015, 12:01 PM
A gun to my head would not force me in there. It's BS. A Media concoction.
No.
Blizzardwizard
12-17-2015, 12:14 PM
Saw it last night, really really good. Tops episode 5 for me, constant action, well developed characters and none of the 'confederacy politics talk' from the first two that nobody cared about.
And by first two I mean 'episodes 1 and 2' to avoid confusion..
The Gemini Method
12-17-2015, 12:16 PM
I'll wait. I'm not that big of a fan where I'm going to be stuck fighting with some pimply-faced fuckwad. I do want to go to the IMAX theatre with the hydraulic seating. I want to get that feels going on.
Thread
12-17-2015, 12:17 PM
I'll wait. I'm not that big of a fan where I'm going to be stuck fighting with some pimply-faced fuckwad. I do want to go to the IMAX theatre with the hydraulic seating. I want to get that feels going on.
Bend over. I'll give you a fuckin' hydraulic seating.
The Gemini Method
12-17-2015, 01:43 PM
Bend over. I'll give you a fuckin' hydraulic seating. You old fuck. Don't disappoint with some Cialis-riddled half chub, ****.
Xevious
12-17-2015, 02:48 PM
:lol
chunticakes
12-17-2015, 06:11 PM
Bend over. I'll give you a fuckin' hydraulic seating.
The return.
benefactor
12-17-2015, 08:41 PM
I'll wait. I'm not that big of a fan where I'm going to be stuck fighting with some pimply-faced fuckwad. I do want to go to the IMAX theatre with the hydraulic seating. I want to get that feels going on.
We have a Studio Movie Grill here. I picked my seat online. I'll go to the bar and have a few beers, then walk to my seat five minutes before the movie starts.
Kim Jong-il
12-18-2015, 01:08 AM
Just got out. Great movie if you're into nostalgia. Good movie if you're more interested in where things are going rather than where it's been. If you read a certain spoiler and hoped maybe it wasn't true, it is.
I'll be watching this bitch in less than 24 hours. IMAX, to boot.
Kim Jong-il
12-18-2015, 01:23 AM
The reviews are spot on in that JJ Abrams played it safe here. If you want to cheer and clap the first time you see the Millenium Falcon or R2D2, he basically gives every member of the old trilogy their cheer and clap moment. Story closely mimics A New Hope. It's really good and understandable why he didn't go for broke. But he also sets things up really nice for the next two movies to take more risks.
Also, Carrie Fisher looks and sounds like she's smoked a pack of Winstons every day since they wrapped on Return Of The Jedi.
HI-FI
12-18-2015, 01:53 AM
The reviews are spot on in that JJ Abrams played it safe here. If you want to cheer and clap the first time you see the Millenium Falcon or R2D2, he basically gives every member of the old trilogy their cheer and clap moment. Story closely mimics A New Hope. It's really good and understandable why he didn't go for broke. But he also sets things up really nice for the next two movies to take more risks.
Also, Carrie Fisher looks and sounds like she's smoked a pack of Winstons every day since they wrapped on Return Of The Jedi.
does the structure feel like SW? Like every SW film has no flashbacks, there are multiple linear threads, and by the end the characters are in a much different place. Episode 4 in particular feels like a different film 2 hours later. I saw one review that pointed out the previous SW were self sustained in this regard, whereas the new one feels like it's just setting everything up for the next film.
As for the spoiler, some asshole ruined that for me but i figured something like that would happen.
B- movie. Does everything that you'd predict quite well. Nothing innovative. Bad guys really poorly developed. Casting the fagget from Girls was a really shitty choice. That fagget makes for a bitch made villain.
Good movie overall, notwithstanding JJ Abrams fucking up a Star Wars villain -- which should be the easiest part of the movie to get right.
Also, Carrie Fisher looks and sounds like she's smoked a pack of Winstons every day since they wrapped on Return Of The Jedi.
+1
I think her voice was deeper than Harrison Ford's.
spurraider21
12-18-2015, 03:23 AM
I thought the movie was really really good and the villain was really shitty. Similar to Captain America 1 in that regard
VAGUE SPOILERS AHEAD - IF I RUINED ANYTHING FOR YOU, YOU'RE A FUCKING TOOL
This movie stole three things from other SW movies:
Episode II/III: Anakin struggling with turning to the dark side
Episode IV: Entire movie
Episode V: Luke traveling to another planet to find an ancient Jedi master
Was still good though. It was like they rebooted Star Wars and did a sequel at the same time.
Jacob1983
12-18-2015, 04:34 AM
Saw it tonight in lovely 3D. A lot better than the hit or miss prequels. The light saber battles were awesome.
Death In June
12-18-2015, 09:02 AM
It was good, overall, I'd put it at #3. Story was a little too convenient and not a lot of down time to let the charachters breath, but way better than the prequels and on par with Jedi.
Kim Jong-il
12-18-2015, 09:11 AM
B- movie. Does everything that you'd predict quite well. Nothing innovative. Bad guys really poorly developed. Casting the fagget from Girls was a really shitty choice. That fagget makes for a bitch made villain.
Good movie overall, notwithstanding JJ Abrams fucking up a Star Wars villain -- which should be the easiest part of the movie to get right.
I thought the movie was really really good and the villain was really shitty. Similar to Captain America 1 in that regard
Weird, I thought Kylo Ren was really well done. He's basically Anakin - a brat with insecurity issues who's prone to temper tantrums. This time I thought they made him alot more of a real person and not a whiny pussy like Hayden Christiansen.
Death In June
12-18-2015, 09:20 AM
Weird, I thought Kylo Ren was really well done. He's basically Anakin - a brat with insecurity issues who's prone to temper tantrums. This time I thought they made him alot more of a real person and not a whiny pussy like Hayden Christiansen.I felt the same way, but there was a disconnect during the third act. Guy goes from being setup to be extremely powerful, to barely going toe to toe with a couple of noobs who don't know shit about nothing. Having said that, the light saber fights were better than the other movies. Having them act like knights and not ninjas just translates better than the ridiculous over-choreographed shit from the previous three movies.
Spurminator
12-18-2015, 10:32 AM
The new cast is great, the effects were not overwhelming at all and it was just a fun watch overall.
That said, as opposed to the prequels, the weakest part of the film was the story. That's what makes me wonder about how it will hold up for future viewers. Not sure if the nostalgia stuff works as well on audiences who haven't waited 30 years (or 20, or 10...) to see the old characters on screen again. And will fans love the movie as much when they're watching it on a 55 inch screen at home instead of at an "event" like opening night/week surrounded by other fans?
Proxy
12-18-2015, 11:31 AM
I'd give it a 6.5 out of 10
There was a movie there that had potential to be a classic, but the business interests keep that potential from being reached
too much Han, too many pandering allusions
new characters were great
The Gemini Method
12-18-2015, 11:59 AM
We have a Studio Movie Grill here. I picked my seat online. I'll go to the bar and have a few beers, then walk to my seat five minutes before the movie starts. That sounds like a chill plan. I know they have those here as well, but I don't drink so it wouldn't suit me. I'll probably go when i'm off next week or something. I have already been posted spoilers on FB so i'm not really worried. But enjoy the drinks as they will probably numb the nerdist atmosphere of the crowd. I've heard people wearing Star Wars shirts to the movie. That's like wearing a band's merch you're going to see in concert.
MultiTroll
12-18-2015, 12:10 PM
That said, as opposed to the prequels, the weakest part of the film was the story.
This is what loses me on Hollywood.
The will spend a billion bucks on SFX and hype but go with a weak arsed storyline/plot.
I just don't get it.
AlexJones
12-18-2015, 12:23 PM
The OST sucked. What the fuck?
djohn2oo8
12-18-2015, 01:13 PM
Anyone ever been to an IPIC theater?
http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/41/72/64/8891699/3/696x696.jpg
The Gemini Method
12-18-2015, 01:15 PM
They have something like that here in So Cal...Never been, but it looks like it makes the movie going experience all the more better.
leemajors
12-18-2015, 03:17 PM
They have something like that here in So Cal...Never been, but it looks like it makes the movie going experience all the more better.
Paying above the already absurd prices isn't for me tbh. I can sit on a couch at home with better beer for less.
The Gemini Method
12-18-2015, 03:22 PM
Paying above the already absurd prices isn't for me tbh. I can sit on a couch at home with better beer for less. You do make sense. I guess it would be absurd, normally, to pay that much to see a movie (its already mad cash to do so...). I don't really go out to theaters since I have KODI at home so maybe just a one-time thing would suffice.
leemajors
12-18-2015, 03:25 PM
You do make sense. I guess it would be absurd, normally, to pay that much to see a movie (its already mad cash to do so...). I don't really go out to theaters since I have KODI at home so maybe just a one-time thing would suffice.
Definitely, special occasion thing but some people I know drop hundreds a month at the Alamo Drafthouse.
The Gemini Method
12-18-2015, 03:45 PM
Definitely, special occasion thing but some people I know drop hundreds a month at the Alamo Drafthouse. I'm guessing the Drafthouse is the place where you can get your drink on and reserve a seat to catch The Force Awakens? Yeah, that would definitely be a special occasion place. I'm just going to go to the local AMC and catch it. No need to break the bank.
Kim Jong-il
12-18-2015, 03:47 PM
Drafthouse tickets aren't any more expensive than regular theaters, you just end up spending more if you eat a whole meal there.
InRareForm
12-18-2015, 03:52 PM
Never got into star wars... not going to start either.
gambit1990
12-18-2015, 06:35 PM
had free tickets to a showing last night at the imax. wasn't bad.
Pauly D
12-18-2015, 07:00 PM
The amount of shilling Disney is having ESPN do for Star Wars is fucking nauseating. There's never been anything more shoved down the public's throat than this movie
The amount of shilling Disney is having ESPN do for Star Wars is fucking nauseating. There's never been anything more shoved down the public's throat than this movie
You sound bitter. :lol
Turns out my idiot brother didn't buy tickets in time. He actually thought that we could just waltz in and we'd be able to see it. What a tool.
Then he calls me saying everything is sold out. Thought this nigga had the tickets ready.
Just bought actual tickets for tomorrow afternoon and I'm going by myself.
I. Hustle
12-18-2015, 07:34 PM
I won tickets on the radio then just gave them away. I just wanted to see if I could win them. I would have sold them but I didn't want the hassle.
leemajors
12-18-2015, 07:59 PM
Drafthouse tickets aren't any more expensive than regular theaters, you just end up spending more if you eat a whole meal there.
I know, I worked there for 4 years about a decade ago. It was way more fun when everything was comped.
Pauly D
12-18-2015, 09:29 PM
You sound bitter. :lol
Bitter that the entire countdown and pre-game along with every other program today was riddled with stupid references, tie-ins, and flat out "GO SEE STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS, OUT NOW!" at the end of every segment. Fuck Disney
I only liked the new resistance characters (and the new and old droids). Han and Leia are just too old and their on screen chemistry was not good.
djohn2oo8
12-19-2015, 12:06 AM
Fantastic movie. Driver was great as Kylo Ren.
djohn2oo8
12-19-2015, 12:07 AM
I felt the same way, but there was a disconnect during the third act. Guy goes from being setup to be extremely powerful, to barely going toe to toe with a couple of noobs who don't know shit about nothing. Having said that, the light saber fights were better than the other movies. Having them act like knights and not ninjas just translates better than the ridiculous over-choreographed shit from the previous three movies.
Remember though, Kylo hadn't reached his peak yet.
Amuseddaysleeper
12-19-2015, 12:09 AM
SPOILERS IN THIS REVIEW!!!!
Just saw this and it was painfully mediocre. The whole thing felt very hollow because it's hard to root for any of these characters. I know it's essentially a popcorn film but because it's PG you don't get any element of danger because everything feels so tame in this movie.
The light saber fights were a massive letdown, I'm supposed to believe that a girl with minimal training is supposed to hold her own against a guy who is setup as the next big thing for the dark side? Even the stormtrooper sword fight had Finn doing well for way longer than he should have when he's never used a sword in his life. Just too ridiculous at times.
Han Solo dying had such a poor payoff considering how quickly they glossed it over. They rushed the aftermath of that to make it feel like an after thought instead of the major character death that it was.
And finally, it's all one big remake of the original Star Wars film A New Hope which makes it feel like the least original movie of the entire series even if it was better than the prequels.
daslicer
12-19-2015, 12:56 AM
SPOILERS IN THIS REVIEW!!!!
Just saw this and it was painfully mediocre. The whole thing felt very hollow because it's hard to root for any of these characters. I know it's essentially a popcorn film but because it's PG you don't get any element of danger because everything feels so tame in this movie.
The light saber fights were a massive letdown, I'm supposed to believe that a girl with minimal training is supposed to hold her own against a guy who is setup as the next big thing for the dark side? Even the stormtrooper sword fight had Finn doing well for way longer than he should have when he's never used a sword in his life. Just too ridiculous at times.
Han Solo dying had such a poor payoff considering how quickly they glossed it over. They rushed the aftermath of that to make it feel like an after thought instead of the major character death that it was.
And finally, it's all one big remake of the original Star Wars film A New Hope which makes it feel like the least original movie of the entire series even if it was better than the prequels.
Didn't see the movie but I got the vibe that Kylo Ren was a counterfeit Darth Vader much like Kobe was a counterfeit Jordan.
Amuseddaysleeper
12-19-2015, 01:07 AM
Didn't see the movie but I got the vibe that Kylo Ren was a counterfeit Darth Vader much like Kobe was a counterfeit Jordan.
At least Kobe had his moments to imitate Jordan. Kylo started off great, then becomes an extremely emo whiny teenage bitch who gets his ass handed to him by people who haven't had any light saber training.
His character fell apart by the end of the film for me. I wish I liked this movie more than I did, it has its moments, but I don't think I'll ever care to see it again. I liked the orignals for what it's worth.
mFFL03
12-19-2015, 01:19 AM
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Loved the first act because it was a new, original Star Wars. Then it slowly turned into a New Hope. We've already seen that movie, and we've already blown up enough Death Stars. Loved the look, tone, and feel for everything , but come on, write an original story, JJ is the puff daddy of the late 90s.
spurraider21
12-19-2015, 05:50 AM
SPOILERS IN THIS REVIEW!!!!
Just saw this and it was painfully mediocre. The whole thing felt very hollow because it's hard to root for any of these characters. I know it's essentially a popcorn film but because it's PG you don't get any element of danger because everything feels so tame in this movie.
The light saber fights were a massive letdown, I'm supposed to believe that a girl with minimal training is supposed to hold her own against a guy who is setup as the next big thing for the dark side? Even the stormtrooper sword fight had Finn doing well for way longer than he should have when he's never used a sword in his life. Just too ridiculous at times.
Han Solo dying had such a poor payoff considering how quickly they glossed it over. They rushed the aftermath of that to make it feel like an after thought instead of the major character death that it was.
And finally, it's all one big remake of the original Star Wars film A New Hope which makes it feel like the least original movie of the entire series even if it was better than the prequels.
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to be fair, they showed the girl fending for herself quite easily back on Jakku, so her stick-fighting skills were pretty established.
but i will grant you that her ability using the force was probably too much based on her minimal experience... being able to fend off the mind tricks, and use the mind tricks herself, etc. like, how did she even know she could persuade that guard to do that :lol... and yes, Finn shouldn't have lasted longer than about 8 seconds. i can understand the girl though
spurraider21
12-19-2015, 05:50 AM
can't have a movie thread on ST without pauly d whining about it
Trainwreck2100
12-19-2015, 05:56 AM
SPOILERS IN THIS REVIEW!!!!
Just saw this and it was painfully mediocre. The whole thing felt very hollow because it's hard to root for any of these characters. I know it's essentially a popcorn film but because it's PG you don't get any element of danger because everything feels so tame in this movie.
The light saber fights were a massive letdown, I'm supposed to believe that a girl with minimal training is supposed to hold her own against a guy who is setup as the next big thing for the dark side? Even the stormtrooper sword fight had Finn doing well for way longer than he should have when he's never used a sword in his life. Just too ridiculous at times.
Han Solo dying had such a poor payoff considering how quickly they glossed it over. They rushed the aftermath of that to make it feel like an after thought instead of the major character death that it was.
And finally, it's all one big remake of the original Star Wars film A New Hope which makes it feel like the least original movie of the entire series even if it was better than the prequels.
That was the stupidest part of this movie, it feels like it was done just to make you hate the bad guy since he was not very threatening to begin with. A shitty send off for one of the greatest characters in all of fiction. (yes i said that, yes I mean it) They should have just offed Leia she wasn't doing anything anyway. On to the movie there was pretty much only two new characters that were decent, the pilot and soccer ball robot. The black guy wasn't bad but his best parts were when he was with Han and that was more Han than it was him. And did they ever explain how that planet gun was able to shoot a fucking planet gun into hyperspace? And why did Abrams reuse the look up see planet explode thing that was in Star Trek.
djohn2oo8
12-19-2015, 09:30 AM
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to be fair, they showed the girl fending for herself quite easily back on Jakku, so her stick-fighting skills were pretty established.
but i will grant you that her ability using the force was probably too much based on her minimal experience... being able to fend off the mind tricks, and use the mind tricks herself, etc. like, how did she even know she could persuade that guard to do that :lol... and yes, Finn shouldn't have lasted longer than about 8 seconds. i can understand the girl though
SPOILERS
it's obvious that she is more powerful than Luke at this point where he was not yet a Jedi. It a desperate state to survive, it's not a stretch for her to use mind tricks. Could she be a child of two Jedis?
here's a theory I found
She had training, Luke Just blocked it from her mind when he dropped her off on the planet. when Kylo was trying to extract the Luke Map from her mind, her partially unblocked her training thus why she started to remember her training. That is why she was able to us the jedi mind trick on that trooper then hold her own against a injured Kylo.
djohn2oo8
12-19-2015, 09:47 AM
Spoilers...To those saying Kylo shouldn't have got his ass kicked, remember that he was not a Sith lord. He still needed to go through training. Plus he was attacked by chewie, and bleeding all over the place.
da_suns_fan
12-19-2015, 11:02 AM
Spoilers...To those saying Kylo shouldn't have got his ass kicked, remember that he was not a Sith lord. He still needed to go through training. Plus he was attacked by chewie, and bleeding all over the place.
No, its a terrible plot hole. He couldnt hold his own against someone who picked up a lightsaber for the first time. Then the planet is exploding separating the two characters (convenient way for neither of them to die) but everyone's quickly able to get off the planet (again convenient) .
Like a lot of others I feel it was way too much an homage to the original. A lot of scenes exist simply because they were in the original trilogy. But i enjoyed it a lot more than the prequels and I thought everyone in the cast was excellent.
Spoilers...To those saying Kylo shouldn't have got his ass kicked, remember that he was not a Sith lord. He still needed to go through training. Plus he was attacked by chewie, and bleeding all over the place.
The guy was catching blaster bolts mid-air (without even seeing them), at the beginning of the movie. By the end, he gets his shit handed to him by a girl with no training (that we know of). I hear what you're saying but it doesn't explain how Rey could resist his mind-reading when he had her on the torture chair (he wasn't injured then).
They built up a ruthless, bad ass guy at the very beginning, and then made him increasingly more emo. Fuck, Vader would ruthlessly kill people off when they failed him. Ryle Ken trashed electronics whenever he got pissed like a little emo fagget.
spurraider21
12-19-2015, 11:34 AM
SPOILERS
it's obvious that she is more powerful than Luke at this point where he was not yet a Jedi. It a desperate state to survive, it's not a stretch for her to use mind tricks. Could she be a child of two Jedis?
here's a theory I found
She had training, Luke Just blocked it from her mind when he dropped her off on the planet. when Kylo was trying to extract the Luke Map from her mind, her partially unblocked her training thus why she started to remember her training. That is why she was able to us the jedi mind trick on that trooper then hold her own against a injured Kylo.
SPOILERS
or maybe star wars went full retard/nostalgia and she is kylo's twin
mFFL03
12-19-2015, 11:48 AM
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She's either emo fags sister, or she was/is another virgin birth.
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I wasn't sad to see Han die. Honestly, I was thinking that this whole movie was going to a be a real rebirth of the franchise and instead they brought back Han, Leia and Luke way past their prime for such a story. I enjoyed the nastalgia for a moment, but I was ready to quickly move on. Think about this: the actor who played "Old Ben" AKA "Obi-Wan Kenobi" was 63 years old when episode IV was released. Han Solo in this movie was 73 years old... come on, guys. I love Harrison Ford and the rest but it's time to move on.
djohn2oo8
12-19-2015, 02:12 PM
SPOILERS
or maybe star wars went full retard/nostalgia and she is kylo's twin
Could be. Idk though, I'm interested to see where they take it.
Proxy
12-19-2015, 04:14 PM
There were tons more problems to bitch about before we give a shit about her using the force by the end of the movie
It almost seemed like two directors spliced their movies together. There were too many contrasting things to not acknowledge the painfully obvious interjection of money interests over making a good, ambitious movie. I can just imagine some Disney fuck wad saying, "hey we need more Han Solo. We need another Death Star. Pander to the audience. Introduce C3PO for no real goddamn reason. Lets purposefully put some bs filler alien scene for Han and Chewie's intro. Make sure to add expository dialogue and treat the audience like morons. Make it more cliche. That's what people pay money for."
the new characters were the best part of the movie tbh
At least there was no Jar Jar Binks 2.0
There were tons more problems to bitch about before we give a shit about her using the force by the end of the movie
It almost seemed like two directors spliced their movies together. There were too many contrasting things to not acknowledge the painfully obvious interjection of money interests over making a good, ambitious movie. I can just imagine some Disney fuck wad saying, "hey we need more Han Solo. We need another Death Star. Pander to the audience. Introduce C3PO for no real goddamn reason. Lets purposefully put some bs filler alien scene for Han and Chewie's intro. Make sure to add expository dialogue and treat the audience like morons. Make it more cliche. That's what people pay money for."
the new characters were the best part of the movie tbh
It's sad when movies are made by committee. it was still good though. Better than the prequels (Ep I-III) but certainly not the original trilogy.
Proxy
12-19-2015, 05:47 PM
It's sad when movies are made by committee. it was still good though. Better than the prequels (Ep I-III) but certainly not the original trilogy.
well.... to be fair, the prequels are some of the worst movies ever made :lol
I'm sure the prequel quality was an ongoing anxiety, thus the overabundant, pandering allusions to the original trilogy.
Just saw it and was a bit dissapointed. The movie itself was good, but it resembled the Original Star Wars far to much. I mean it was almost the same damned plot.
I was hoping maybe JJ would take this in a new direction. Who knows though, maybe he will be a little more original with the next two. They have been set up fairly nicely.
djohn2oo8
12-19-2015, 08:32 PM
Just saw it and was a bit dissapointed. The movie itself was good, but it resembled the Original Star Wars far to much. I mean it was almost the same damned plot.
I was hoping maybe JJ would take this in a new direction. Who knows though, maybe he will be a little more original with the next two. They have been set up fairly nicely.
They played it safe this first time around and it's going to probably make 2 billion. I think they will step it up the next two. Like they did with return of the Jedi and empire strikes back.
They played it safe this first time around and it's going to probably make 2 billion. I think they will step it up the next two. Like they did with return of the Jedi and empire strikes back.
I sure hope so, a few of the new characters were interesting though. As others mentioned there was also some really bad plot holes.
Anyone know if they have a planned release date for the next one yet?
da_suns_fan
12-20-2015, 01:00 AM
There were tons more problems to bitch about before we give a shit about her using the force by the end of the movie
It almost seemed like two directors spliced their movies together. There were too many contrasting things to not acknowledge the painfully obvious interjection of money interests over making a good, ambitious movie. I can just imagine some Disney fuck wad saying, "hey we need more Han Solo. We need another Death Star. Pander to the audience. Introduce C3PO for no real goddamn reason. Lets purposefully put some bs filler alien scene for Han and Chewie's intro. Make sure to add expository dialogue and treat the audience like morons. Make it more cliche. That's what people pay money for."
the new characters were the best part of the movie tbh
Actually I think that was suppose to be this films version of the trash compactor scene. The tentacles of the aliens mimic the creature that sucked look into the water.
chunticakes
12-20-2015, 05:00 AM
Spoilers...To those saying Kylo shouldn't have got his ass kicked, remember that he was not a Sith lord. He still needed to go through training. Plus he was attacked by chewie, and bleeding all over the place.
This.
We knew Rey could defend herself with a staff. Perhaps Kylo Ren had little to no lightsaber training from Luke (who himself had minimal lightsaber training in the original trilogy).
And as far as the whole force use is concerned, Rey is probably more force sensitive than Kylo Ren. Like someone stated, maybe the daughter of a Jedi or something.
These are feasible explanations but they dont feel satisfying. It doesn't change the fact that there are glaring plot holes the size of Hope Solo's vagina. It just seems like Rey was written as the typical "invincible strong woman" lead.
Anyways, anybody have any theories on Snoke? I read somewhere that he might be Plagueis.
Kim Jong-il
12-20-2015, 09:56 AM
Yeah did everyone forget that Kylo Ren took a fucking bowcaster shot TO THE STOMACH before fighting Rey? After we saw two scenes where the bowcaster fucked up multiple ppl with one shot? and then multiple shots where it's obvious that Ren is seriously injured and in a lot of pain?
This would be like Jordan severely spraining his ankle and people bitching that he didn't drop 50 on the Nets or some shit.
lefty
12-21-2015, 08:32 AM
I liked it tbh
Dat opening shot :D
Mr. Body
12-21-2015, 10:14 AM
People explaining away two non-trained newbies, one with no Force inherent, holding off Kylo have to be kidding. The whole series we know lightsabers take a shitload of training to get barely right and these jokers aren't cutting their own arms off? Why didn't he just force-freeze or force-choke both of them and stab them to bits like Han? I get that Kylo isn't actually that good - but, wait, it does, he can freeze a freaking blaster bolt in midair, talk to people, walk away after an hour, and it's still there - but the movie is saying Luke, one of the most powerful Jedi ever, should never have bothered training with Yoda, and any Sanitation-level stormtrooper can take on a powerful Sith Lord or whatever the fuck he is.
That's only one of the increasingly ridiculous parts in an increasingly bad movie. Sorely disappointed, and I haven't been a Star Wars fan for years.
djohn2oo8
12-21-2015, 10:23 AM
People explaining away two non-trained newbies, one with no Force inherent, holding off Kylo have to be kidding. The whole series we know lightsabers take a shitload of training to get barely right and these jokers aren't cutting their own arms off? Why didn't he just force-freeze or force-choke both of them and stab them to bits like Han? I get that Kylo isn't actually that good - but, wait, it does, he can freeze a freaking blaster bolt in midair, talk to people, walk away after an hour, and it's still there - but the movie is saying Luke, one of the most powerful Jedi ever, should never have bothered training with Yoda, and any Sanitation-level stormtrooper can take on a powerful Sith Lord or whatever the fuck he is.
That's only one of the increasingly ridiculous parts in an increasingly bad movie. Sorely disappointed, and I haven't been a Star Wars fan for years.
Rey proved she could fight in the opening scene. It seems like she has had training before. Finn also had a form of training since he was a stormtrooper, so it's really not that far fetched. And AGAIN, Kylo was hurt badly before the fight. And had not completed his training, so it would make since that he could be vulnerable. People are overthinking things way too much.
Mr. Body
12-21-2015, 10:28 AM
Rey proved she could fight in the opening scene. It seems like she has had training before. Finn also had a form of training since he was a stormtrooper, so it's really not that far fetched. And AGAIN, Kylo was hurt badly before the fight. And had not completed his training, so it would make since that he could be vulnerable. People are overthinking things way too much.
The original trilogy continually tells us that a lightsaber is not like any other weapon, it's both dangerous and really weak - Han dismisses it as hokey. I don't see why Kylo being hurt is that a big of deal. We've seen Jedi fight like badasses even when hurt or incapacitated. This is just Disney getting in there and saying we have to have a big lightsaber duel and since there's no other comparable character they have a sanitation worker pick it up and not immediately chop his own dick off. Face it, it's nonsense.
I. Hustle
12-21-2015, 11:54 AM
SPOILERS
it's obvious that she is more powerful than Luke at this point where he was not yet a Jedi. It a desperate state to survive, it's not a stretch for her to use mind tricks. Could she be a child of two Jedis?
here's a theory I found
She had training, Luke Just blocked it from her mind when he dropped her off on the planet. when Kylo was trying to extract the Luke Map from her mind, her partially unblocked her training thus why she started to remember her training. That is why she was able to us the jedi mind trick on that trooper then hold her own against a injured Kylo.
It would kind of explain why she felt so strongly about staying on Jakku. Kept wanting to go back.
I don't think it's the case though.
benefactor
12-21-2015, 12:52 PM
I enjoyed it. Story could have been better but it was nice to watch a Star Wars that actually felt like Star Wars.
ColinB
12-21-2015, 12:55 PM
Fun movie. Enjoyed it a lot.
Glad I don't hate fun like a lot of nerds in here.
lefty
12-21-2015, 02:23 PM
Agreed, very enjoyable movie
Sure there is a pattern in this movie (basically ANH with different characters) but the movie was still awesome
The cinematography was perfect, the acting was great, the LS fights were fantastic.
I did find Finn a bit too goofy though; he was like the human JarJarBing .... no racist tbh
As benefactor said, it felt like a SW movie
Kim Jong-il
12-21-2015, 03:26 PM
We've seen Jedi fight like badasses even when hurt or incapacitated.
When?
chunticakes
12-21-2015, 06:21 PM
People explaining away two non-trained newbies, one with no Force inherent, holding off Kylo have to be kidding. The whole series we know lightsabers take a shitload of training to get barely right and these jokers aren't cutting their own arms off? Why didn't he just force-freeze or force-choke both of them and stab them to bits like Han? I get that Kylo isn't actually that good - but, wait, it does, he can freeze a freaking blaster bolt in midair, talk to people, walk away after an hour, and it's still there - but the movie is saying Luke, one of the most powerful Jedi ever, should never have bothered training with Yoda, and any Sanitation-level stormtrooper can take on a powerful Sith Lord or whatever the fuck he is.
That's only one of the increasingly ridiculous parts in an increasingly bad movie. Sorely disappointed, and I haven't been a Star Wars fan for years.
Ren was physically and emotionally wounded after the whole Han Solo/bowcaster scene. Therefore we can say he wasn't able to tap into the force as easily as say the opening scene.
Also Luke was never "one of the most powerful Jedi ever". If anything he's one of the weakest ever. Yoda himself said Luke was too old to train back in the original trilogy. Luke never trained as a Youngling much less a Padawan. He's a fringe Jedi at best.
So him training Ren really doesn't make Ren anything. I think down the line they're gonna reveal Rey to be Ren's more powerful sister.
Case in point Rey conveniently pulling that Jedi mind trick BS on a Stormtrooper. Now that I had a problem with. You'd figure that'd be some next level Jedi shit. Judging by that sample size, I'd say Rey would have to be the most powerful force user ever.
Spur|n|Austin
12-21-2015, 08:20 PM
I knew I'd find lots of hate in here. I thought it was a entertaining and fun movie that stayed true to feel of the originals. Once the wife gets all caught up, I'm going to be seeing it in theaters again.
bigzak25
12-22-2015, 12:14 AM
Eh, the black guy didn't die and solos son is a long haired fag. Other than that, it was not bad.
Trill Clinton
12-22-2015, 02:36 AM
All those cry baby Sawm's took a collective sigh when they saw that Finn was nothing more than a galactic garbage man.
DJR210
12-22-2015, 02:57 AM
:lol ^
Agreed, very enjoyable movie
Sure there is a pattern in this movie (basically ANH with different characters) but the movie was still awesome
The cinematography was perfect, the acting was great, the LS fights were fantastic.
I did find Finn a bit too goofy though; he was like the human JarJarBing .... no racist tbh
As benefactor (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13284) said, it felt like a SW movie
Very happy with it as well. Also, NO LENS FLARES FROM JJ!!!
benefactor
12-22-2015, 07:51 AM
All those cry baby Sawm's took a collective sigh when they saw that Finn was nothing more than a galactic garbage man.
:lol
Seriously though, Boyega doesn't really count. I liken him more to Seal than I do Tyrone who drives around the dumpster banger.
Pauly D
12-22-2015, 08:42 AM
Fun movie. Enjoyed it a lot.
Glad I don't hate fun like a lot of nerds in here.
I knew I'd find lots of hate in here. I thought it was a entertaining and fun movie that stayed true to feel of the originals. Once the wife gets all caught up, I'm going to be seeing it in theaters again.
No one's said it isn't a "fun, aesthetically pleasing flick", but that's a given when you just remake A New Hope. Chris Stuckmann on twitter has a poll for most enjoyed: Fury Road or Force Awakens and FA is up like 67 to 33. It's like Abrams has gotten away with highway robbery
His character fell apart by the end of the film for me. I wish I liked this movie more than I did, it has its moments, but I don't think I'll ever care to see it again. I liked the orignals for what it's worth.
Nailed it.
This is 100% how I felt about the character Kylo Ren.
It all felt apart for me when he took off his mask the first time. Dude looks like a poser faggot with daddy issues that make Jack Shepard look like an ultra alpha.
I also thought the bit about Fin and Rai mastering and knowing how to wield a lightsaber far fetch. I dont buy that just because they could sense the force that that was enough to teach them everything.
But it wasn't only that. The movie does a poor job at making sense of shit. Rai, without knowing how to fly ships is able to learn on the fly and manuver better than Han Solo. Whattttttttttttttttt
I enjoyed the movie for what it is but definitely doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I think they catered too much to the younger audience who dont notice these types of blunders.
Hopefully since JJ won't be having much to do with these films going forward that the directing and writing improve going forward.
Overall, 2 thumbs up. I was entertained.
benefactor
12-22-2015, 08:57 AM
No one's said it isn't a "fun, aesthetically pleasing flick", but that's a given when you just remake A New Hope. Chris Stuckmann on twitter has a poll for most enjoyed: Fury Road or Force Awakens and FA is up like 67 to 33. It's like Abrams has gotten away with highway robbery
Fury Road>>>The Force Awakens...this we can agree on.
Spoilers...To those saying Kylo shouldn't have got his ass kicked, remember that he was not a Sith lord. He still needed to go through training. Plus he was attacked by chewie, and bleeding all over the place.
WTF was he doing pounding his injured stomach? That was fucking gay.
That's something like from the planet of the apes. :lol
Rey proved she could fight in the opening scene. It seems like she has had training before. Finn also had a form of training since he was a stormtrooper, so it's really not that far fetched. And AGAIN, Kylo was hurt badly before the fight. And had not completed his training, so it would make since that he could be vulnerable. People are overthinking things way too much.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt on Rai. She probably had a sense on how to wield a blade.
But that still doesn't explain how she is able to be acrobatic with it. By the end she's dancing and cutting trees with it like it had been a part of her all her life. lol
And I call bullshit on Finn.
He didn't have tthat type of training. He said it himself in the movie. That's why he was always saying where is a blaster etc. Shooting does not = being great at sword fighting.
They kind of fucked up there.
Saw the movie on Thursday and the first thing I did was text the spoilers to this guy who refused to pay me some money I loaned him. Literally told me "I'll pay you when I feel like it." His profile picture is him nerding out on the Star Wars display at Disneyworld.
MultiTroll
12-22-2015, 09:55 AM
5/10
Could have take a a nice nap but seat did not recline enough.
Amateurish acting. The silly arguing and cow eyes between Rei and Emo Black Guy that was supposed to have some romantic implications. Lame.
The overdone role of Hans Solo, everyone being "kid" and the forced "seen it all before" attitude and bloviating.
Qs. Was Raisin Head the top evil guy on the throne supposed to be related to / same species as Bar Owner older chick who wore desert bike riding goggles?
MultiTroll
12-22-2015, 10:13 AM
STAR WARS ACTORS WHO HAVE DISSED THE FRANCHISE
http://www.looper.com/6411/star-wars-actors-dissed-franchise/
Common theme is how little effort was spent on acting talent, instead overuse of SFX.
While there was a bit of improvement in this latest one, not much.
Pauly D
12-22-2015, 10:14 AM
Fury Road>>>The Force Awakens...this we can agree on.
Apparently not to millions of easily influenced normies
STAR WARS ACTORS WHO HAVE DISSED THE FRANCHISE
http://www.looper.com/6411/star-wars-actors-dissed-franchise/
Common theme is how little effort was spent on acting talent, instead overuse of SFX.
While there was a bit of improvement in this latest one, not much.
Ewan Mcgregor was featured in this movies. (Voice)
Guinness, too.
djohn2oo8
12-22-2015, 10:24 AM
Someone said Daniel Craig was a stormtrooper?
Pauly D
12-22-2015, 10:28 AM
STAR WARS ACTORS WHO HAVE DISSED THE FRANCHISE
http://www.looper.com/6411/star-wars-actors-dissed-franchise/
Common theme is how little effort was spent on acting talent, instead overuse of SFX.
While there was a bit of improvement in this latest one, not much.
My boy Alec Guinness. The dude was a David Lean regular and 99% of people know him solely for Obi Wan
JamStone
12-22-2015, 11:09 AM
A lot of similarities in style and feel as the original trilogy, from the scene breaks to the Nazi references with the First Order, which for the most part was cool to see. But also a lot of similarities with the storyline to A New Hope, which kind of made things predictable and stale. I thought the movie started out pretty strong then got weaker as it went along. Felt a lot of the same things with some of the potholes mentioned. Harrison Ford helped the other characters, but the movie probably could have done without Leia. I also agree that the death was anticlimactic and that Kylo is a little bitch. All that said, I still enjoyed it for what it was and it was leaps and bounds better than the prequel trilogy.
Rey sounded exactly like Keira Knightly. I have a feeling that Abrams will depart from the literature that's already been written and documented about the family tree, because so many suggestions that she could be Luke's daughter. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case at all and for Abrams to make up a new storyline about that.
Kim Jong-il
12-22-2015, 11:19 AM
Fury Road>>>The Force Awakens...this we can agree on.
Yes, Fury Road is a masterpiece. Force Awakens is damn good but still has its flaws.
Kim Jong-il
12-22-2015, 11:22 AM
I will give you the benefit of the doubt on Rai. She probably had a sense on how to wield a blade.
But that still doesn't explain how she is able to be acrobatic with it. By the end she's dancing and cutting trees with it like it had been a part of her all her life. lol
And I call bullshit on Finn.
He didn't have tthat type of training. He said it himself in the movie. That's why he was always saying where is a blaster etc. Shooting does not = being great at sword fighting.
They kind of fucked up there.
I don't get where people are making it out like Finn is some master with the lightsaber. He got his ass beat by a stormtrooper with an electrified club, getting bailed out by Han & Chewie. Then he nearly got killed by Kylo Ren. The fight lasted about 5 seconds before he got pinned on the tree, then he got one lucky strike in before Ren finished him off. He was pretty godawful with the lightsaber if you ask me.
He's a fully functioning human with some idea of how a sword works. Did you really expect him to turn the saber on and immediately chop his own dick off?
Spur|n|Austin
12-22-2015, 11:44 AM
I don't get where people are making it out like Finn is some master with the lightsaber. He got his ass beat by a stormtrooper with an electrified club, getting bailed out by Han & Chewie. Then he nearly got killed by Kylo Ren. The fight lasted about 5 seconds before he got pinned on the tree, then he got one lucky strike in before Ren finished him off. He was pretty godawful with the lightsaber if you ask me.
He's a fully functioning human with some idea of how a sword works. Did you really expect him to turn the saber on and immediately chop his own dick off?
:lol
C'mon, Finn is black. He's been wielding a sword his entire life.
RandomGuy
12-22-2015, 04:02 PM
I will give you the benefit of the doubt on Rai. She probably had a sense on how to wield a blade.
But that still doesn't explain how she is able to be acrobatic with it. By the end she's dancing and cutting trees with it like it had been a part of her all her life. lol
And I call bullshit on Finn.
He didn't have tthat type of training. He said it himself in the movie. That's why he was always saying where is a blaster etc. Shooting does not = being great at sword fighting.
They kind of fucked up there.
You didn't notice that Rai used a staff at the beginning of the movie?
The item used by the other trooper was astonishingly sword-like. One would presume that a stormtrooper would train with various weapons, as I did in the US military. Finn was a combat-trained soldier, raised since his childhood to do one thing, and that was fight.
Both had some existing combat skills.
RandomGuy
12-22-2015, 04:03 PM
Saw the movie on Thursday and the first thing I did was text the spoilers to this guy who refused to pay me some money I loaned him. Literally told me "I'll pay you when I feel like it." His profile picture is him nerding out on the Star Wars display at Disneyworld.
:ROFL
I think Rey s trained as a kid, and Kylo unlocked it trying to mind read her.
I think Finn has Jedi in him which is why he was naturally good at handling all the weapons. The force was influencing him just like it did Luke prior to Obi wan. Is why he was able to handle the light saber without hurting himself, but if you watch, he just hacking away which is why Ren defeats him at easily.
Also, Ren was arrogant going against Finn like the predator vs Arnold at the end. He wasn't using the force.
benefactor
12-22-2015, 09:50 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/d2Z2dNyikagn0ziE/giphy.gif
pgardn
12-22-2015, 10:38 PM
Never been into Star Wars or much sci fiction action stuff.
Im glad people enjoyed it though. Got a lot of friends who were quite happy with it.
People enjoying their holidays even more is good stuff.
Ginobilly
12-22-2015, 11:33 PM
what a waste of 5$. Where do I start? It seems like I was watching Star Wars: transformers/avengers. Mindless action, with a weak story line, shitty acting, weak bad guy, plot holes, etc. It was just a really bad star wars movie altogether! Like TFM episode 1 bad! I actually think CW & ROTS were better than this garbage. Where is Irvin Kershner when you need him? Please Disney, give this franchise to Del Toro or peter jackson! Fuck man, I'll even take a steven speilberg star wars movie. Jew boy should just stick to star trek por favor!
:lol I dont get the JJ hate.
And like I said, JJ won't be directing the next two movies so if he's your main concern, rejoice.
angrydude
12-23-2015, 12:13 AM
what a waste of 5$. Where do I start? It seems like I was watching Star Wars: transformers/avengers. Mindless action, with a weak story line, shitty acting, weak bad guy, plot holes, etc. It was just a really bad star wars movie altogether! Like TFM episode 1 bad! I actually think CW & ROTS were better than this garbage. Where is Irvin Kershner when you need him? Please Disney, give this franchise to Del Toro or peter jackson! Fuck man, I'll even take a steven speilberg star wars movie. Jew boy should just stick to star trek por favor!
weak story line? Yes.
Bad acting? no.
Plot Holes? Yes.
Weak bad guy? no.
If anything this movie could have used a little more standing around explaining what was going on, but they were too afraid to make it like the prequels so they made it very narrow in scope.
Episode 8 better not have another god damn death star to blow up. It's gotten old.
Ginobilly
12-23-2015, 12:26 AM
:lol I dont get the JJ hate.
And like I said, JJ won't be directing the next two movies so if he's your main concern, rejoice.
The reason he is hated because he in not a very good director to begin with, and shouldn't be directing these sci fi classics. The guy is Joel Schumacker bad! It's like when somebody else directs terminator. It's not james cameron.
Ginobilly
12-23-2015, 12:34 AM
weak story line? Yes.
Bad acting? no.
Plot Holes? Yes.
Weak bad guy? no.
If anything this movie could have used a little more standing around explaining what was going on, but they were too afraid to make it like the prequels so they made it very narrow in scope.
Episode 8 better not have another god damn death star to blow up. It's gotten old.
The acting was episode 1 bad. BB 8 did the best acting job and stole the show and he's a cgi robot.
The bad guy was weak dawg.... Some emo fag with daddy issues that's trying to copy vader? lame! Also, finn and the british chick have like zero chemistry onscreen and their scenes were portman/hayden cringe worthy bad. The best part of the movie for me was when rey went to go find luke and gives him his lightsaber.
lefty
12-23-2015, 10:08 AM
I thought Daisy Ridley was great
Boyega is a good actor but his character was JarJarbing bad (no racist)
ColinB
12-23-2015, 10:56 AM
It's a Star Wars movie and you are complaining about plot holes? lol.
Someone said Daniel Craig was a stormtrooper?
I read that he was the one that Rey used the Jedi Mind Trick on when she was captive.
:lol I dont get the JJ hate.
And like I said, JJ won't be directing the next two movies so if he's your main concern, rejoice.
who is?
lefty
12-23-2015, 01:02 PM
http://cdn3-www.superherohype.com/assets/uploads/gallery/star-wars-episode-vii/cwxqhtkuaaarj3t.jpg
Chinook
12-23-2015, 02:26 PM
Haven't seen the movie because fuck crowds. But I did just finish the novelization. So while I can't really comment on the visuals or directing, I can talking about the storyline and spoilers.
SPOILERS -- though at this point, people should know to just stay out of this thread.
I thought both Finn and Rey became weaker characters as the story went on. Finn never had that air of being a supercharged badass, which I really liked. But after opening act had him and Rey forming a pretty solid partnership, he really lost almost all of his power. Dude was supposed to be an awesome marksman, but they totally take away his gun for the final act. Instead of him growing into the role of legit fighter, he was pretty much relegated to be emotional support for Rey and to be the damsel in distress. And he gets friend-zoned while in a coma. How sad is that?
His arc can totally be redeemed in the following movies by him either learning he's force-sensitive or figuring out how to be a worthwhile character despite having no force powers (like Jango and Bobo). I don't see why he can't become better with a lightsaber anyway. But I could also see him being completely marginalized in the next movies to make room for the Poe/Rey lovefest. I actually don't know what would be worse for Finn: For him to let himself be cucked by Poe or for him to be part of a stupid-ass love triangle.
Rey was best when she was a resourceful girl, kinda like a female Han Solo. Her being able to defend herself was cool, and as I said, she and Finn formed a solid partnership, which is something you rarely see between men and women in movies. The fact that they essentially took the qualities of Luke, Han and Leia and shuffled and combined them into two characters was very welcome for me, as it took away a lot of the fat that hung on the trio in the original trilogy.
Things started to fall apart as soon as she got the messiah treatment. After that, she pretty much got every cool point. The producers want to act like her arc is new or even not worn out, but it is. Shit, pretty much every movie made about a female YA book has girls who are combat savants and who end up becoming way too powerful for any logical progression to justify. If we have to watch two more movies of her becoming the space version of Katniss, it might completely kill the series for me. I have no issue with her being a Jedi, but damn it if she is going to just be able to do everything on her own because the producers are determined to secure support from feminists.
Ren wasn't bad to me. What was wrong with his character is what's wrong with the whole series. It's never made sense that you only have two choices when using the force. Games like KOTOR tried to show that there was a lot of gray area. I don't get why it would be hard to just have Jedi powers while being able to think for yourself? And since when is having emotions NOT okay for the dark side? It seems like they would be the group that would allow themselves to act viscerally while the light side is all disciplined. Then you have the true id/superego dichotomy.
I think the final battle would have been stronger had Rey used the saber teamed up with Finn (who's using a blaster) to hold off Ren. Sort of like the final battle of Windwaker. Like Ren can't finished off Rey because he has to keep deflecting Finn's shots, but he can't force-push Finn away because Rey attacks anytime he tries. Then, you could have Ren go balls out and wound Finn before Rey strikes him. Would get you to the same situation while keeping everyone's integrity.
lefty
12-23-2015, 02:27 PM
I just enjoyed the movie tbh
:lol nitpicking
:lol deep analysis
angrydude
12-23-2015, 03:05 PM
The acting was episode 1 bad. BB 8 did the best acting job and stole the show and he's a cgi robot.
The bad guy was weak dawg.... Some emo fag with daddy issues that's trying to copy vader? lame! Also, finn and the british chick have like zero chemistry onscreen and their scenes were portman/hayden cringe worthy bad. The best part of the movie for me was when rey went to go find luke and gives him his lightsaber.
If you think the acting was "bad" then I'm sure you only enjoy oscar nominated movies because your bar is set way too high. I think you need to go rewatch episode one. I didn't cringe once during this movie. Good enough.
The bad guy may have been an emo fag but that was the point. You may have not liked their choices with him but at least they made some choices. He was a 3 dimensional....which is a lot more than you can say for any character in the prequels. Again your standards are too high.
MultiTroll
12-23-2015, 03:54 PM
If you think the acting was "bad" then I'm sure you only enjoy oscar nominated movies because your bar is set way too high.
With 8 million wanna be's trying to get into movies and t.v., this is the cream of the crop? :rollin
And not putting it all on the actor/actress as director script writing etc dictates a lot. See previous link on Star Wars Actors speak out.
Ya for a cheesy sci fi flick who cares. But when the budget is 200 mil (or whatever it was) one can expect more.
LaMarcus Bryant
12-23-2015, 04:18 PM
Very happy with it as well. Also, NO LENS FLARES FROM JJ!!!
They were there. I counted at least 3.
Not kidding.
LaMarcus Bryant
12-23-2015, 04:20 PM
Rehashing the death star plot was really really weak.
Overall movie was ok, but after hearing the buzz I expected way more.
Ren being emo was good entertainment
lefty
12-23-2015, 04:51 PM
Rehashing the death star plot was really really weak.
Overall movie was ok, but after hearing the buzz I expected way more.
Ren being emo was good entertainment
Check the emo Kylo Ren Twitter account :lol
BatManu20
12-23-2015, 05:05 PM
Space Balls >> Star Wars
tbh.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Kylo was an emo.
djohn2oo8
12-23-2015, 06:46 PM
Haven't seen the movie because fuck crowds. But I did just finish the novelization. So while I can't really comment on the visuals or directing, I can talking about the storyline and spoilers.
SPOILERS -- though at this point, people should know to just stay out of this thread.
I thought both Finn and Rey became weaker characters as the story went on. Finn never had that air of being a supercharged badass, which I really liked. But after opening act had him and Rey forming a pretty solid partnership, he really lost almost all of his power. Dude was supposed to be an awesome marksman, but they totally take away his gun for the final act. Instead of him growing into the role of legit fighter, he was pretty much relegated to be emotional support for Rey and to be the damsel in distress. And he gets friend-zoned while in a coma. How sad is that?
His arc can totally be redeemed in the following movies by him either learning he's force-sensitive or figuring out how to be a worthwhile character despite having no force powers (like Jango and Bobo). I don't see why he can't become better with a lightsaber anyway. But I could also see him being completely marginalized in the next movies to make room for the Poe/Rey lovefest. I actually don't know what would be worse for Finn: For him to let himself be cucked by Poe or for him to be part of a stupid-ass love triangle.
Rey was best when she was a resourceful girl, kinda like a female Han Solo. Her being able to defend herself was cool, and as I said, she and Finn formed a solid partnership, which is something you rarely see between men and women in movies. The fact that they essentially took the qualities of Luke, Han and Leia and shuffled and combined them into two characters was very welcome for me, as it took away a lot of the fat that hung on the trio in the original trilogy.
Things started to fall apart as soon as she got the messiah treatment. After that, she pretty much got every cool point. The producers want to act like her arc is new or even not worn out, but it is. Shit, pretty much every movie made about a female YA book has girls who are combat savants and who end up becoming way too powerful for any logical progression to justify. If we have to watch two more movies of her becoming the space version of Katniss, it might completely kill the series for me. I have no issue with her being a Jedi, but damn it if she is going to just be able to do everything on her own because the producers are determined to secure support from feminists.
Ren wasn't bad to me. What was wrong with his character is what's wrong with the whole series. It's never made sense that you only have two choices when using the force. Games like KOTOR tried to show that there was a lot of gray area. I don't get why it would be hard to just have Jedi powers while being able to think for yourself? And since when is having emotions NOT okay for the dark side? It seems like they would be the group that would allow themselves to act viscerally while the light side is all disciplined. Then you have the true id/superego dichotomy.
I think the final battle would have been stronger had Rey used the saber teamed up with Finn (who's using a blaster) to hold off Ren. Sort of like the final battle of Windwaker. Like Ren can't finished off Rey because he has to keep deflecting Finn's shots, but he can't force-push Finn away because Rey attacks anytime he tries. Then, you could have Ren go balls out and wound Finn before Rey strikes him. Would get you to the same situation while keeping everyone's integrity.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Kylo was an emo.
Though Kylo wasn't a Sith lord, one thing about the dark side is they do let their emotions control them.
Haven't seen the movie because fuck crowds. But I did just finish the novelization. So while I can't really comment on the visuals or directing, I can talking about the storyline and spoilers.
SPOILERS -- though at this point, people should know to just stay out of this thread.
I thought both Finn and Rey became weaker characters as the story went on. Finn never had that air of being a supercharged badass, which I really liked. But after opening act had him and Rey forming a pretty solid partnership, he really lost almost all of his power. Dude was supposed to be an awesome marksman, but they totally take away his gun for the final act. Instead of him growing into the role of legit fighter, he was pretty much relegated to be emotional support for Rey and to be the damsel in distress. And he gets friend-zoned while in a coma. How sad is that?
His arc can totally be redeemed in the following movies by him either learning he's force-sensitive or figuring out how to be a worthwhile character despite having no force powers (like Jango and Bobo). I don't see why he can't become better with a lightsaber anyway. But I could also see him being completely marginalized in the next movies to make room for the Poe/Rey lovefest. I actually don't know what would be worse for Finn: For him to let himself be cucked by Poe or for him to be part of a stupid-ass love triangle.
Rey was best when she was a resourceful girl, kinda like a female Han Solo. Her being able to defend herself was cool, and as I said, she and Finn formed a solid partnership, which is something you rarely see between men and women in movies. The fact that they essentially took the qualities of Luke, Han and Leia and shuffled and combined them into two characters was very welcome for me, as it took away a lot of the fat that hung on the trio in the original trilogy.
Things started to fall apart as soon as she got the messiah treatment. After that, she pretty much got every cool point. The producers want to act like her arc is new or even not worn out, but it is. Shit, pretty much every movie made about a female YA book has girls who are combat savants and who end up becoming way too powerful for any logical progression to justify. If we have to watch two more movies of her becoming the space version of Katniss, it might completely kill the series for me. I have no issue with her being a Jedi, but damn it if she is going to just be able to do everything on her own because the producers are determined to secure support from feminists.
Ren wasn't bad to me. What was wrong with his character is what's wrong with the whole series. It's never made sense that you only have two choices when using the force. Games like KOTOR tried to show that there was a lot of gray area. I don't get why it would be hard to just have Jedi powers while being able to think for yourself? And since when is having emotions NOT okay for the dark side? It seems like they would be the group that would allow themselves to act viscerally while the light side is all disciplined. Then you have the true id/superego dichotomy.
I think the final battle would have been stronger had Rey used the saber teamed up with Finn (who's using a blaster) to hold off Ren. Sort of like the final battle of Windwaker. Like Ren can't finished off Rey because he has to keep deflecting Finn's shots, but he can't force-push Finn away because Rey attacks anytime he tries. Then, you could have Ren go balls out and wound Finn before Rey strikes him. Would get you to the same situation while keeping everyone's integrity.
I'm not sure they're following that. lol
Finn was a janitor who somehow got promoted to stormtrooper.
who is?
Episode 8, Rian Johnson from Looper and episode 9 belongs to the guy who directed Jurassic World.
Phillip
12-23-2015, 11:44 PM
Amusing how morons claim there is a "plot hole" with the way how Rey quickly learned how to make use of the force, yet conveniently forget that just within hours or less of learning that he even had the ability to use the force, Luke Skywalker was blocking laser shots with a lightsaber without even using his eyes, a couple hours later by means of the force somehow learned to pilot a ship he had never flown before so effectively that he could shoot torpedoes down a minuscule hole without using any sort of tracking system (doing it virtually blindly, again), that in his very first lightsaber fight he was able to hold his own pretty well against one of the most powerful force users to ever live, and that in his second lightsaber fight, he overtook the same guy without much trouble. Also forgetting that within maybe a day or so of learning she had the ability to use the force, somehow Leia was able to use it so well that she could sense whether Luke escaped the exploding Death Star safely or not.
Yet somehow, those aren't "plot holes", and the original trilogy apparently remains 100% plot hole free and flawless, and completely untouchable, when fact is, they had just as many, if not more "plot holes" if we analyze them as deeply as you idiots are analyzing this one. Great freaking logic :tu
Phillip
12-23-2015, 11:47 PM
Any objective mind knows that this one is just as good, if not better than any episode of Star Wars that was ever made. An objective mind also knows that many people have seriously begun to overrate the original trilogy as well.
Phillip
12-23-2015, 11:48 PM
I just enjoyed the movie tbh
:lol nitpicking
:lol deep analysis
this
:toast
Kim Jong-il
12-23-2015, 11:59 PM
I'm not sure they're following that. lol
Finn was a janitor who somehow got promoted to stormtrooper.
He was bred from birth to be a stormtrooper. Meaning before he was old enough, he had to do shit like sanitation. In the movie he's 18-ish and on his first ever mission as a stormtrooper. He literally says that exact thing. I'm sorry if you think movies have to spoonfeed you every last detail, but most people with a brain can deduce simple shit like that.
He was bred from birth to be a stormtrooper. Meaning before he was old enough, he had to do shit like sanitation. In the movie he's 18-ish and on his first ever mission as a stormtrooper. He literally says that exact thing. I'm sorry if you think movies have to spoonfeed you every last detail, but most people with a brain can deduce simple shit like that.
LOL give this guy a lightsaber so he can defend this movie like a true white knight. :lol
I was reffering to what he posted that he is supposed to be an awesome trooper with a blaster. Clearly, in the movie, he's none of those things. Try to follow along.
I love Star Wars but I'm not going to pretend the movie isn't full of non-sensical shit.
unleashbaynes
12-24-2015, 12:53 AM
Amusing how morons claim there is a "plot hole" with the way how Rey quickly learned how to make use of the force, yet conveniently forget that just within hours or less of learning that he even had the ability to use the force, Luke Skywalker was blocking laser shots with a lightsaber without even using his eyes, a couple hours later by means of the force somehow learned to pilot a ship he had never flown before so effectively that he could shoot torpedoes down a minuscule hole without using any sort of tracking system (doing it virtually blindly, again), that in his very first lightsaber fight he was able to hold his own pretty well against one of the most powerful force users to ever live, and that in his second lightsaber fight, he overtook the same guy without much trouble. Also forgetting that within maybe a day or so of learning she had the ability to use the force, somehow Leia was able to use it so well that she could sense whether Luke escaped the exploding Death Star safely or not.
Yet somehow, those aren't "plot holes", and the original trilogy apparently remains 100% plot hole free and flawless, and completely untouchable, when fact is, they had just as many, if not more "plot holes" if we analyze them as deeply as you idiots are analyzing this one. Great freaking logic :tu
Fuck yes to all of this. Some of you nostalgia fags need to quit overanalyzing this film. It was pretty fucking good.
Pauly D
12-24-2015, 01:06 AM
Yet somehow, those aren't "plot holes", and the original trilogy apparently remains 100% plot hole free and flawless, and completely untouchable
literally no one says that. They get the cred for their creativity
Any objective mind knows that this one is just as good, if not better than any episode of Star Wars that was ever made.
Except it's just a remake disguised as a sequel. Visuals aside it can't be better than Ep 4 in any way
An objective mind also knows that many people have seriously begun to overrate the original trilogy as well.
Totally agree
Phillip
12-24-2015, 01:29 AM
They get the cred for their creativity
I never knew creativity gives you a pass for crappiness.
Except it's just a remake disguised as a sequel. Visuals aside it can't be better than Ep 4 in any way
Considering a movie is a visual work of art, I'd say visuals are pretty important. And why can't it be? I never knew remakes simply can't be superior to originals. Not to mention, a large majority of movie sequels generally are just "remakes" in a very similar manner as this one is considered to be a "remake" (I agree this one did it a tad more than most, but it still introduced plenty of new things). But somehow this one doesn't get any slack, and is a piece of crap because of it? Retarded.
They were there. I counted at least 3.
Not kidding.
Yeah, I know but for JJ that's a pretty low number. If you watch his other films (Star Trek/Super 8), every other scene basically has a lens flare. :lol You can tell he restrained himself. Also, the one with Kylo Ren watching the planet destroyer through the window was awesome. One of the best scenes, visually, in the film imo.
Chinook
12-24-2015, 07:05 AM
LOL give this guy a lightsaber so he can defend this movie like a true white knight. :lol
I was reffering to what he posted that he is supposed to be an awesome trooper with a blaster. Clearly, in the movie, he's none of those things. Try to follow along.
I love Star Wars but I'm not going to pretend the movie isn't full of non-sensical shit.
I was talking about all of the material that suggests Finn was awesome in his test scores. To be honest, the book didn't say much about him being anything other than average in his combat ability, so I doubt the movie did either. Even so, I don't think he uses a blaster once in the book despite him constantly talking about preferring one to whatever he happens to have at his disposal. If he was supposed to be learning to use a lightsaber and become a Jedi, it would make sense. But if he's just a chode using a sword, they should have just given him a damned blaster.
Chinook
12-24-2015, 07:09 AM
Any objective mind knows that this one is just as good, if not better than any episode of Star Wars that was ever made. An objective mind also knows that many people have seriously begun to overrate the original trilogy as well.
I actually have almost no nostalgic connection to the original trilogy. I grew up during the prequel era, and I would still watch II and III over any of the IV V or VI. But I actually don't really care about any of them. I haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't know if the acting, directing or visuals will make me put this above the others. But I did like the story just fine. I analyzed it because I spent 10.5 hours listening to nothing but this audiobook while I was at work. When all you have is plot and characters, you focus on those things more. In that regard, I thought VII was an improvement over IV. That doesn't stop VII from having issues, though, and this thread was about VII.
Phillip
12-24-2015, 09:11 AM
I actually have almost no nostalgic connection to the original trilogy. I grew up during the prequel era, and I would still watch II and III over any of the IV V or VI. But I actually don't really care about any of them. I haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't know if the acting, directing or visuals will make me put this above the others. But I did like the story just fine. I analyzed it because I spent 10.5 hours listening to nothing but this audiobook while I was at work. When all you have is plot and characters, you focus on those things more. In that regard, I thought VII was an improvement over IV. That doesn't stop VII from having issues, though, and this thread was about VII.
I don't disagree that there are "issues". But why are people looking so hard for "issues" in a sci-fi fantasy popcorn flick? Really?
lefty
12-24-2015, 09:18 AM
I don't disagree that there are "issues". But why are people looking so hard for "issues" in a sci-fi fantasy popcorn flick? Really?
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LaMarcus Bryant
12-24-2015, 12:19 PM
Check the emo Kylo Ren Twitter account :lol
Already following him lol
LaMarcus Bryant
12-24-2015, 12:33 PM
It's not the plot holes that make it an underwhelming movie, it's the way they totally used episode 4 storyline down to details.
Heath Ledger
12-24-2015, 01:43 PM
At least Kobe had his moments to imitate Jordan. Kylo started off great, then becomes an extremely emo whiny teenage bitch who gets his ass handed to him by people who haven't had any light saber training.
His character fell apart by the end of the film for me. I wish I liked this movie more than I did, it has its moments, but I don't think I'll ever care to see it again. I liked the orignals for what it's worth.
He gets pWned because he is badly injured and bleeding out.
I. Hustle
12-24-2015, 02:42 PM
If you think the acting was "bad" then I'm sure you only enjoy oscar nominated movies because your bar is set way too high. I think you need to go rewatch episode one. I didn't cringe once during this movie. Good enough.
The bad guy may have been an emo fag but that was the point. You may have not liked their choices with him but at least they made some choices. He was a 3 dimensional....which is a lot more than you can say for any character in the prequels. Again your standards are too high.
I liked the movie. That being said... I thought Kylo was the guy from Grandma's Boy.
How can he see me?
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lefty
12-24-2015, 02:56 PM
He gets pWned because he is badly injured and bleeding out.
Exactly
Chewy blasted him before the fight
It's not the plot holes that make it an underwhelming movie, it's the way they totally used episode 4 storyline down to details.
You had to reset the franchise from the horrible prequels. This generation needed it's own a new hope, while bringing the star wars universe back to a place the old cool fans recognize. They accomplished both of those with this first movie. Now that you got that out of the way, the new story will begin with the next movie.
djohn2oo8
12-24-2015, 04:03 PM
Exactly
Chewy blasted him before the fight
PLUS, he didnt want to kill Rey. He wanted to turn her to the dark side. Which begs the question, why would he be hesitant to kill her? He initially got angry when he first heard about her.
djohn2oo8
12-24-2015, 04:10 PM
Someone brought up a great point.
2) people forget that there has been essentially no use for Jedi powers for a generation. Ren may have powers, but he's never had an opportunity to hone them or learn how to fight someone who didn't cower from him and his armies. Vader was from an era where Jedi were training against other Jedi.
spurraider21
12-24-2015, 04:36 PM
so chinook would be cool with rey if she wasn't a chick
Chinook
12-24-2015, 06:39 PM
so chinook would be cool with rey if she wasn't a chick
:lol More like if Rey were a dude, everyone would have had a problem with him.
My my..so much excuses for Kylo Ren.
He got his ass whopped not because he was injured..let's face it.. he got all the way to the forest from being inside the walkway thing where he sabered Han Solo, he fough Finn then Rey. Moved with quickness etc.
He got beat by someone more powerful plain and simple.
And that's what people are having issues with. At least kylo Ren had training and was on his way to becoming a sith. That means, he should have at least taken care of two people who had never had any sort of training with the force or a lightsaber. Instead she was all mighty and powerful from the first time she touched a lightsaber. Ridiculous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPSPEddcPVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqgZ6LtC8pU
I think these two videos sum up pretty much the issues with this film.
lefty
12-24-2015, 08:33 PM
The Force is really strong with Rey, she will be a powerful Jedi
Ren is as powerful as Rey, but he lets his emotions get the best out of him whereas Rey is in control of hers
TDMVPDPOY
12-24-2015, 08:42 PM
havnt seen the movie yet, but possibly could rey be a child prodigy that allows her to grasps things quicker then someone who needs training, in other words a hax character where the director cant explain it?
HI-FI
12-24-2015, 09:59 PM
Finally saw it. Visually and musically it was the least inspired SW film imo. I can't recall Williams phoning in a SW score like this but then I can't blame him based on the movie.
Also, I'm probably one of the few people pissed JJ used a flashback when Lucas was adamant not to use them but whatever.
It felt more like fan fiction than SW to me but there were some sequences and characters I liked, so in that context I'll give it 7/10.
havnt seen the movie yet, but possibly could rey be a child prodigy that allows her to grasps things quicker then someone who needs training, in other words a hax character where the director cant explain it?
yeah in that flashback it seems to infer she was trained at a young age then hidden. Maybe Luke's daughter, perhaps he creampied another Jedi which would make Rey very powerful imo.
Phillip
12-24-2015, 10:21 PM
My my..so much excuses for Kylo Ren.
He got his ass whopped not because he was injured..let's face it.. he got all the way to the forest from being inside the walkway thing where he sabered Han Solo, he fough Finn then Rey. Moved with quickness etc.
He got beat by someone more powerful plain and simple.
And that's what people are having issues with. At least kylo Ren had training and was on his way to becoming a sith. That means, he should have at least taken care of two people who had never had any sort of training with the force or a lightsaber. Instead she was all mighty and powerful from the first time she touched a lightsaber. Ridiculous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPSPEddcPVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqgZ6LtC8pU
I think these two videos sum up pretty much the issues with this film.
So... basically you are a moron?
Got it :tu
Texas_Ranger
12-24-2015, 10:27 PM
Some of people are bitching about how Finn was so good with the saber. Well he really was not that good. He was defeated by the Stormtrooper pretty easily and Kylo Ren, who was injured, was toying with him if you watch it closely. Also, the Stormtroopers are trained to fight with a sword, so he should know how to make some moves with the saber. The Rey thing is pretty obvious. She just got more force in her than Kylo. And her saberfighting until that the last 20 seconds of the fight was pretty weak. Kylo (injured) was beating both of them and they were running away from him most of the time. Now for the theory that Rey is Luke's daughther... At first I also thought that was it, but now I think she's related to Obi-Wan cause both of them are talking British.
The movie does remind me of the original trilogy and a lot of stuff is the same as in the old movies, but it was still a great movie. 10X better than the prequels. I just hope EP8 won't be a rip off of the Empire.
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