ESPN Infographic - Duncan versus Bryant

[Old School 44]

What we already know, but the last stat, Win Shares made me laugh a little...poor Kobe.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14334667/kobe-bryant-tim-duncan-compared-their-nba-peer-group

[Old School 44]

This piece focuses on Duncan/Bryant, but props to our other old guy, Manu Ginobili!

[silverblackfan]

Brutal metrics for Kobe. Surprised it was on ESPN, but it will draw eyeballs. I also laughed.

[pgardn]

Yeah but the Lakers have not only Kobe, but Metta World Chaos. Together they have kept the young Lakers focused and headed towards the playoffs. Moving Chaos in place was the missing piece to total dysfunction furthering the worship and iconic stature of this storied franchise.

[Cry Havoc]

Brutal metrics for Kobe. Surprised it was on ESPN, but it will draw eyeballs. I also laughed.

There does seem to be a trend in sports toward advanced statistics. Considering the number of people that play fantasy sports, I'm sure that there's a large market of fans watching ESPN that are driven by factual numbers rather than "eye tests" these days. Kobe is failing at both, but that's beside the point. Looking back through their careers, Duncan's numbers are staggering even compared to other greats, while Kobe's are actually fairly pedestrian when you get to the top 20 players or so.

[MultiTroll]

This piece focuses on Duncan/Bryant, but props to our other old guy, Manu Ginobili!
We love him and we'll take him with his imperfections.
Too bad the brain fart in fouling Dork in 2006 and the Miami giveaway.
GNob and the Spurs repeat and/or have 6 or 7 now and he far exceeds Kobme as best 2nd.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Thanks for posting. :tu

Cheers to the GOAT :bobo

[Seventyniner]

Fun to see Kobe with negative win shares.

Reporter: "Kobe, the stats say that you actually hurt the team while you're on the floor. Would you be willing to play fewer minutes if it helped the team?"
Kobe: "The stats can kiss my ass."
Byron Scott: "What he said."

[SnakeBoy]

lol those comments... but but Kobe had a career ending injury. Doesn't "career ending injury" require one's career to end...Kobe still out there chucking away.

[aal04]

Kobe is the only player in history that i say has done his legacy huge harm in his twilight years.

He is cancerous and detrimental to the franchise. I have him slipped from like 7-9 to 13-15 from his last 2 years. Hes the exact opposite of what you call a vet - someone like KG/Pierce who isnt performing as well as their younger days but are helping with advice and development of younger players.

Its the only time in history when your 2 young guns get promoted by getting benched to the second team. Ridiculous.

[YGWHI]

How a contract has hadcuffed a franchise? Kobe's the perfect example. The guy who can get the best individual stats possible for himself and still hurt his team.

[aal04]

How a contract has hadcuffed a franchise? Kobe's the perfect example. The guy who can get the best individual stats possible for himself and still hurt his team.



No, i blame the franchise just as much as I blame Kobe.

Every team often gets a chit contract or their star underperforms, the solution is to bench their player. Scott and the franchise are forcing Kobe to play even though they know hes doing damage.

Kobe should step down because he is underperforming and he knows it. And Lakers should bench Kobe because hes underperforming. Yet neither refuse to do it. Both parties at fault.

Pop says he expects Duncan to walk off the court if he feels he isnt contributing, even if its in the middle of the 3rd quarter of a random regular season game.

[YGWHI]

No, i blame the franchise just as much as I blame Kobe.

Agree, the Lakers are guilty as he is. But since this thread is a comparison between Tim and Kobe, a team-first player, a real leader who has won everything with his franchise don't put them in an awkward position of having to decide keep him or not for those hundreds of millions when they were trying to rebuild the team.