Game Thread: Spurs vs Lakers -- Fri. (12/11) - 8:30PM CST (4:30AM Riga Time)

[sasaint]

I feel a little sad for Danny TBH.
He got benched on national TV.

Simmons emerging as a real spark for us though.

Spurs fans gotta hurt for Danny.

[BatManu20]

Patty having a helluva game tonight in Tony's absence :tu

[SpurPadre]

Hey, I'm excited about Simmons like the rest of you guys, but he's not ready to start yet, especially not against real teams. Let him continue to grow and gain confidence off the bench while logging meaningful minutes against bottom-feeders like the Lakers.

[dabom]

Spurfan excited about beating the Lakers.

Patty going off. Parkertards salty. :lmao

[DJR210]

Mississippi man....ESPN is my only option.

It's like 5 bucks more for FSSW?

[Nathan89]

Is Pop yelling at LMA for making him suck?:lmao

[Silver&Black]

:wow Django 2 :wow

[ChumpDumper]

Patty going off. Parkertards salty. :lmaoI wasn't talking about Patty.

lol shtick

[Chinook]

Chinook ain't gonna like this. Here comes the rebuttal.

Whatever works to fix him.

[spursistan]

Need Patty to show up on the road vs quality team, tbh

[timtonymanu]

Game goes out of reach when Kobe checks in.

[Silver&Black]

It's like 5 bucks more for FSSW?

I've got league pass...i'm not paying 1 red cent for another channel.

[FkLA]

Patty going off. Parkertards salty. :lmao

'MVPaddy is trash without Manu :cry '

-Riquetards

[loveforthegame]

Sacre. :lol

[TheDoctor]

Danny's just resting for tomorrow's game.

[SAGirl]

Pop embarrassing Danny, hope it works
Mind games like that have had a good effect on Danny in the past.
He's the kind that needs to be pushed hard.

[SpurPadre]

I think Greens shit play has Pop's attention instead.

I still think someone on the team will talk to him about that, probably TD or Manu.

[steeledl]

Spurfan excited about beating the Lakers.

Always happy for a win.... more happy to see Simmons continue to develop.

[Ron Swanson]

:wow Django 2 :wow

Harden is Django 2 because the D is silent.

[timtonymanu]

Hey, I'm excited about Simmons like the rest of you guys, but he's not ready to start yet, especially not against real teams. Let him continue to grow and gain confidence off the bench while logging meaningful minutes against bottom-feeders like the Lakers.

Don't think anyone honestly thinks that. Simmons is just a test for Green until he gets his head out of his ass.

[Johnny RIngo]

I feel a little sad for Danny TBH.
He got benched on national TV.

Simmons emerging as a real spark for us though.

Don't feel too bad. He got his payday. Now's the time for him to prove he was worth that contract. Sulking won't do him any good.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't think anyone honestly thinks that.Have you read SpursTalk?

[MultiTroll]

Has any one else long since muted Mark Jackson and Van Gundy?

[TheDoctor]

That was a dbl dribble by LWilliams

[Brian Windhorst]

Wow. You would think Sacre was the 2nd coming of Kareem by how the refs are treating him.

[Silver&Black]

Harden is Django 2 because the D is silent.

Ron Swanson is officially in the "My nigga" club....

[HI-FI]

'MVPaddy is trash without Manu :cry '

-Riquetards
'Parker only does what Pop asks of him, including bangin Barry'

[Ron Swanson]

Has any one else long since muted Mark Jackson and Van Gundy?

Nope. I'm watching on FSSW.

[steeledl]

Hey, I'm excited about Simmons like the rest of you guys, but he's not ready to start yet, especially not against real teams. Let him continue to grow and gain confidence off the bench while logging meaningful minutes against bottom-feeders like the Lakers.

I feel like he can be an important player in the playoffs if Chip works with his shot and he is coached on how to play against NBA screens.... I'd rather sacrifice his natural ups and downs now and see if he is ready to play important playoff minutes.

[TXstbobcat]

West!!!!!!!!

[TXstbobcat]

Bobo!!!! :bobo

[SpurPadre]

Don't think anyone honestly thinks that. Simmons is just a test for Green until he gets his head out of his ass.

There are posts here and a whole thread asking for him to start.

[beirmeistr]

chuco west !

[Ron Swanson]

Ron Swanson is officially in the "My nigga" club....

http://www.mascotcoalition.org/education/movies/training_day_images/denzel_intro.jpg

[Silver&Black]

:worthy: Diaw 2.0

:lol Teams who put these scrubs on Bobo in the paint

[SpurPadre]

I feel like he can be an important player in the playoffs if Chip works with his shot and he is coached on how to play against NBA screens.... I'd rather sacrifice his natural ups and downs now and see if he is ready to play important playoff minutes.

I wouldn't experiment right now, not while 2nd seed is still in play.

[TXstbobcat]

Ray33333333333

[cjw]

Stop with this start Simmons stuff - the geometry doesn't work. Need to pair the starters with an outside shooter. Green needs to get his stroke back or else Spurs are in big trouble. When he's hitting, his D picks up and the Spurs are a machine.

Thats not to say I haven't loved Simmons' game tonight. Need someone attacking the basket to spell Manu and Parker.

[BatManu20]

There you go Ray

[SAGirl]

Ray 3

[itzsoweezee]

Hahahaha. Kobe straight GARBAGE

[TampaDude]

Spurs are dominating!

[Silver&Black]

:pop:

:cry So classy :cry

[SASdynasty!]

MVPatty tbh

[TheDoctor]

Bullshit calll on kobe

[BatManu20]

Kawhi pondering the meaning of life :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV_7SMDWEAAurfp.png

[pgardn]

Kobe is the only man who can save them now so by all means keep him in.

What a punk.

[DJR210]

I've got league pass...i'm not paying 1 red cent for another channel.

So is that a blackout rule for the FSSW broadcast?

[NASpurs]

Stop with this start Simmons stuff - the geometry doesn't work. Need to pair the starters with an outside shooter. Green needs to get his stroke back or else Spurs are in big trouble. When he's hitting, his D picks up and the Spurs are a machine.

Thats not to say I haven't loved Simmons' game tonight. Need someone attacking the basket to spell Manu and Parker.

Eh, I think most people want Simmons to start as a wake-up call for Green to get his head out of his ass. Everyone knows how important Green is.

[Gametight]

Kawhi pondering the meaning of life :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV_7SMDWEAAurfp.png

Haha I noticed that too

[TXstbobcat]

So is that a blackout rule for the FSSW broadcast?

On league pass it is blacked out if the game is on national tv

[BatManu20]

Boban in

[EVAY]

Has any one else long since muted Mark Jackson and Van Gundy?

I switched back to the local tv coverage because I just couldn't stand to listen to those jerks.

I think Pop has been showing his ass to the NBA tonight with these line-ups on a nationally televised game, but these announcers are just the worst...making a bad game intolerable.

[GSH]

Stop with this start Simmons stuff - the geometry doesn't work. Need to pair the starters with an outside shooter. Green needs to get his stroke back or else Spurs are in big trouble. When he's hitting, his D picks up and the Spurs are a machine.

Thats not to say I haven't loved Simmons' game tonight. Need someone attacking the basket to spell Manu and Parker.


I think that's a pretty good take. Simmons' game (now that we've actually seen it) fits in perfectly with the blitzkrieg bench team. The team needs Green to come back to life.

I still think Pop should put him in the gym with Chip and not let him out until he's confident in his stroke again.

[Beaverfuzz]

BO

fucking

BAN

[Ron Swanson]

Kawhi pondering the meaning of life :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV_7SMDWEAAurfp.png

Kawhi's thinking about those Bacon Cheddar cheese balls.

[SAGirl]

Stop with this start Simmons stuff - the geometry doesn't work. Need to pair the starters with an outside shooter. Green needs to get his stroke back or else Spurs are in big trouble. When he's hitting, his D picks up and the Spurs are a machine.

Thats not to say I haven't loved Simmons' game tonight. Need someone attacking the basket to spell Manu and Parker.
Lets be honest, both Danny and Kyle got benched this game on account of their lack of effort on defense.

I am sure Ray guarding Kobe to start and getting lit up was not in the plan. That was Danny's assignment that he blew repeatedly I might add and Ray picked up.

Kyle got benched bc of the same thing. He didn't close out a shooter and since he's not scoring or adding much at this point, defense is his calling card.

If you are not going to be scoring, you need to haul ass on defense and hustle and neither guy did.

Simmons showed up to play. He is valuing what playing time he gets and running away with it. If anything the other two should wake the up and increase their level of play.

Kyle is a young guy still learning and rightfully in a short leash and should value these opportunities more, but for Danny it was humiliating. I kind of feel sorry for him. I don't think Pop will bench him permanently or anything like that, lets be real, but it certainly occurred in this game. Let's not kid ourselves.

[TXstbobcat]

Boban is unleashed!!!!!!

[timtonymanu]

Boban!

[r0drig0lac]

Boban ...hahaha

[SASdynasty!]

Boban ftw

[loveforthegame]

Boban ftw.

[Ron Swanson]

Boban the Barbarian

[BatManu20]

Boban!

[sasaint]

Boban!!! He is a machine!

[Silver&Black]

So is that a blackout rule for the FSSW broadcast?

What do you mean? I don't get FSSW at all. I've got Fox Sports South. My local teams are the Hawks, Pelicans, and Grizzlies. I never know which team is going to come on that channel.

Take tomorrow for example....we play the Hawks IIRC. Even though the game is on NBATV...it'll be blacked out on that channel for me. If it doesn't come on Fox Sports South...I won't be able to watch it.

[SpurPadre]

ESPN still can't get McCallum's name right.

[Johnny RIngo]

Why are they showing highlights from the 2000 Finals to prop up Kobe? A series where Shaq averaged 38 ppg while Kobe got outplayed by Croshere :lol

[BatManu20]

Boba with the green light. Firing at will :lol

[TXstbobcat]

Boban!!!!!!!

[Silver&Black]

Boban hanging on the rim like a boss...

My nigga.

[Ron Swanson]

Boban!

[steeledl]

boban lmfao. bad ass

[RD2191]

Boban!!!

[Johnny RIngo]

wow at that Diaw move

[TXstbobcat]

Bobo!!!! :bobo

[Ron Swanson]

Bobo foolin' people

[Silver&Black]

:lmao Putting scrubs on Diaw in the paint

You've got to double my nigga down there.

[RD2191]

Why are they showing highlights from the 2000 Finals to prop up Kobe? A series where Shaq averaged 38 ppg while Kobe got outplayed by Croshere :lol
:lmao

[SpurPadre]

Is Tiago playing tomorrow?

[TheDoctor]

Lmao Boban

[FkLA]

'Parker only does what Pop asks of him, including bangin Barry'

:lol

[SpurPadre]

Boban the Barbarian

Awesome.

[TheDoctor]

Randle wetting the bed

[pgardn]

Bobanized.

Yeah, love that after dunk pull-up.
Giant Elf on the rim.

[SAGirl]

Boban in, immediate impact!
:flag:

[SpurPadre]

I hope Boban mistakes Bonner for a giant sub sandwich and eats him one of these days. I'm sure Ginger would love to go out that way.

[TampaDude]

Thaaaaaaaaaa Spurs!!!!!

San Antonio, baby!!!

[cjw]

Lets be honest, both Danny and Kyle got benched this game on account of their lack of effort on defense.

I am sure Ray guarding Kobe to start and getting lit up was not in the plan. That was Danny's assignment that he blew repeatedly I might add and Ray picked up.

Kyle got benched bc of the same thing. He didn't close out a shooter and since he's not scoring or adding much at this point, defense is his calling card.

If you are not going to be scoring, you need to haul ass on defense and hustle and neither guy did.

Simmons showed up to play. He is valuing what playing time he gets and running away with it. If anything the other two should wake the up and increase their level of play.

Kyle is a young guy still learning and rightfully in a short leash and should value these opportunities more, but for Danny it was humiliating. I kind of feel sorry for him. I don't think Pop will bench him permanently or anything like that, lets be real, but it certainly occurred in this game. Let's not kid ourselves.

I'm talking long term. Danny and Ray (at least from first half) were awful tonight and deserved to be riding the pine. Simmons really stepped up. He's fearless going to the hole and should become an and-one machine, or at least rack up fouls on guys at the rim.

[RD2191]

SA bumped from NBA TV lol

[$pursDynasty]

Spurs just got bumped tomorrow night lol

[Beaverfuzz]

Boban is unstoppable

[TXstbobcat]

Spurs just got bumped from NBA tv tomorow for goldenstate vs Milwaukee

[Silver&Black]

JVG doesn't even know who Boban is...

[daslicer]

SA bumped from NBA TV lol

That was some bs I was actually looking forward to watching that game instead of having to stream it.

[sasaint]

Eh, I think most people want Simmons to start as a wake-up call for Green to get his head out of his ass. Everyone knows how important Green is.

Yep, this. We absolutely cannot win a ship without Danny.

[SpursOwn]

It is impossible to not yell BOBANNNN everytime he scores hahaha

[$pursDynasty]

Man Dubs we are going to beat you by 20

[SpurPadre]

NBA TV just bumped the Spurs tomorrow in favor of the Dubs ass raping the Bucks.

[cjw]

Oh great, we got flexed out of the NBA TV game for the Warriors. I feel like the Bengals.

[RD2191]

JVG cheap as hell. :lol

[DJR210]

Trade Kawhi start Boban at SF

[GSH]

Boban is a men among boys out there.

[SAGirl]

I love Boban

[ChumpDumper]

I hope Boban mistakes Bonner for a giant sub sandwich and eats him one of these days. I'm sure Ginger would love to go out that way.Jesus, dude. Let it go.

[Johnny RIngo]

:lol The obscure Euro we picked up at the last second looking better than the entire Lakers frontcourt
:lol passing up on Porzingis

[Gametight]

This Lakers team is so bad it's almost hard to watch.

[Silver&Black]

Trade Kawhi start Boban at SF

[Ron Swanson]

JVG doesn't even know who Boban is...

JVG is pretty much retarded after he tried to ride Zo's leg.

[Silver&Black]

JVG cheap as hell. :lol

:lol I saw the Stan van Gundy at first

You still mi negro...no worries.

[SpurPadre]

Jesus, dude. Let it go.

Relax. Just a joke.

[Beaverfuzz]

Good thing I have NBA League Pass on the computer.

[TXstbobcat]

19 - 5 :flag:

[FkLA]

Fucking fat ass beaners with the Kirby chants. :pctoss

[Johnny RIngo]

steeledl must have been one of the faggots chanting Kobe

[024]

Embarrassing Kobe chants

[Beaverfuzz]

:lol I saw the Stan van Gundy at first

You still mi negro...no worries.

My nigga.

[TampaDude]

SPURS WIN! SPURS WIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!

[SAGirl]

Pop so classy always!
Something to aspire to.

[sasaint]

This Lakers team is so bad it's almost hard to watch.

Not for me. It is always fun to watch the Lakers get drubbed.

[Silver&Black]

Spurs win 109-87

:flag:

http://i.imgur.com/yQAyVOm.png

P.S. Fuck the Lakers

[Nathan89]

steeledl must have been one of the faggots chanting Kobe

:lol Probably

[cjw]

Embarrassing Kobe chants

Duncan would never have gotten the same in LA because arena would have cleared out by the 6 minute mark of the fourth.

[SAGirl]

I'm talking long term. Danny and Ray (at least from first half) were awful tonight and deserved to be riding the pine. Simmons really stepped up. He's fearless going to the hole and should become an and-one machine, or at least rack up fouls on guys at the rim.
Agreed. The future looks bright for him.
In the end we do need Danny to be his former self.
This should be a wake up call, at least I hope.

Good experience for Simmons though.

[ChumpDumper]

Relax. Just a joke.You mentioned him three times in the last hour. You might want to relax.

[SpurPadre]

Sportscenter: "Spurs are 19-5, which is cute but it isn't 24-0." They would not be smart asses like that if the Cavs were 19-5. They'd be saying "Cavs are 19-5, they're probably going to challenge the Warriors for the Championship!"

[FkLA]

Tbf the chant was from the Cali transplants and fat SA bandwagoners, I don't think it was Spurs fans.

[SpurPadre]

You mentioned him three times in the last hour. You might want to relax.

I think I'm just fine making light jokes at his expense. I'm not psychoanalyzing posts on a message board, so yeah, relax.

[GSH]

Sportscenter: "Spurs are 19-5, which is cute but it isn't 24-0." They would not be smart asses like that if the Cavs were 19-5. They'd be saying "Cavs are 19-5, they're probably going to challenge the Warriors for the Championship!"

What you really need to do is stop giving a fuck what SportsCenter says. The games are decided on the court, not the studio.

[sasaint]

Embarrassing Kobe chants

Wait until the Red Mamba Farewell Tour. Then you will hear some chants.

[EVAY]

Spurs win 109-87

:flag:

http://i.imgur.com/yQAyVOm.png

P.S. Fuck the Lakers

Good grief - I just noticed that Kawhi only had 12 attempts tonight...OMG! Parker haters have been saying that he was denying the ball to Kawhi and holding him back....Aldridge had 20 shots tonight.

[SpurPadre]

You guys ready to quit on McCallum as having any kind of impact or future with this team?

[GSH]

You mentioned him three times in the last hour. You might want to relax.


Wait until the Red Mamba Farewell Tour. Then you will hear some chants.


Games nights are a bad time to go off-meds.

[EVAY]

Thank god Patty went 9 for 11.

[kuato]

The fans were not chanting "Kobe" they said "Bobi" !!!

[SpursOwn]

D'angelo Russell with the most unimpactful 24/6/6 maybe ever.

[steeledl]

:lol Probably

Okay Nathan Randle.

[GSH]

Good grief - I just noticed that Kawhi only had 12 attempts tonight...OMG! Parker haters have been saying that he was denying the ball to Kawhi and holding him back....Aldridge had 20 shots tonight.


Parker freezing out Kawhi from the bench. The French bastard!

[SpurPadre]

What you really need to do is stop giving a fuck what SportsCenter says. The games are decided on the court, not the studio.

Just an observation, tbh.

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV__V3TUAAAj3Uu.jpg

[SAGirl]

You guys ready to quit on McCallum as having any kind of impact or future with this team?
He had 5 assts 2 blocks.
He's fine as a third string PG.
We have to remember he barely plays with this crew.

[sasaint]

Agreed. The future looks bright for him.
In the end we do need Danny to be his former self.
This should be a wake up call, at least I hope.

Good experience for Simmons though.

On the other hand, I have never been more disappointed in Kyle. He played like he felt "entitled." Lazy and sloppy. I would expect seeing a strong game from Simmons would have shaken him out of his lethargy, but No.

[steeledl]

You mentioned him three times in the last hour. You might want to relax.

Why so sensitive?

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV__kFQWwAAxxkE.jpg

[SAGirl]

Parker freezing out Kawhi from the bench. The French bastard!


Good grief - I just noticed that Kawhi only had 12 attempts tonight...OMG! Parker haters have been saying that he was denying the ball to Kawhi and holding him back....Aldridge had 20 shots tonight.

Glad that they both (Kiwi/Aldridge), together with Patty and our bench showed up for this game. At one time it was uncomfortably close.

[FkLA]

Good grief - I just noticed that Kawhi only had 12 attempts tonight...OMG! Parker haters have been saying that he was denying the ball to Kawhi and holding him back....Aldridge had 20 shots tonight.

In 25 mins , moron.

[ChumpDumper]

I think I'm just fine making light jokes at his expense. I'm not psychoanalyzing posts on a message board, so yeah, relax.You're just acting out your obsession.

Your media bitching is really lighthearted too.

[EVAY]

Parker freezing out Kawhi from the bench. The French bastard!

Damn powerful devil, isn't he, though?!

[sasaint]

Games nights are a bad time to go off-meds.

Rock-et! Rock-et! Rock-et! I can hear the deafening roar now!

[RD2191]

:lol I saw the Stan van Gundy at first

You still mi negro...no worries.
Son of a biscuit. Was trying to pull a fast one. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Why so sensitive?Old shtick. Dude isn't even playing.

[cjw]

Sportscenter: "Spurs are 19-5, which is cute but it isn't 24-0." They would not be smart asses like that if the Cavs were 19-5. They'd be saying "Cavs are 19-5, they're probably going to challenge the Warriors for the Championship!"

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but that's the seventh close game for Ws (decided in final minutes or OT). Spurs had the NOP loss and are 2-4 in close games. So 5 games apart in standings, but more like 2-3 expected wins.

[SpurPadre]

He had 5 assts 2 blocks.
He's fine as a third string PG.
We have to remember he barely plays with this crew.

I guess I keep looking back to what CoJo gave us in that spot and feel underwhelmed, also considering Ray showed glimpses of being more capable last year with the Kings. It seems like his game has regressed and he seems a step slower compared to what I saw from him last year but maybe he needs more time to feel more comfortable with having a much more limited role.

[ChumpDumper]

I guess I keep looking back to what CoJo gave us in that spot and feel underwhelmed, also considering Ray showed glimpses of being more capable last year with the Kings. It seems like his game has regressed and he seems a step slower compared to what I saw from him last year but maybe he needs more time to feel more comfortable with having a much more limited role.We were spoiled with Cory.

We now have a third string point guard, but it's not like there's no time for him to get better.

[GSH]

Just an observation, tbh.


People here just get so obsessed with what the talking heads are saying about the team. "Flying under the radar" and all that bullshit. Those guys are pinheads.

[SpurPadre]

You're just acting out your obsession.

Your media bitching is really lighthearted too.

Not surprised since you always try to act like the board police around here. Almost all your posts here are making smart ass comments on someone's posts and trying to pick board spats, but whatever. Do what you want.

[.G.]

I see traces of Costanza in Monaco.

[ChumpDumper]

Not surprised since you always try to act like the board police around here. Almost all your posts here are making smart ass comments on someone's posts and trying to pick board spats, but whatever. Do what you want.So this is you relaxing?

lol

[SpurPadre]

We were spoiled with Cory.

We now have a third string point guard, but it's not like there's no time for him to get better.

Now that's the feedback I'm looking for. I got no real beef with you, man.

[FkLA]

I guess I keep looking back to what CoJo gave us in that spot and feel underwhelmed, also considering Ray showed glimpses of being more capable last year with the Kings. It seems like his game has regressed and he seems a step slower compared to what I saw from him last year but maybe he needs more time to feel more comfortable with having a much more limited role.

He didn't do much in Sac. You're probably expecting too much because of that one game against the Spurs when he abused Enrique. Our PG has a bad habit of letting opposing PGs go off tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

He didn't do much in Sac. You're probably expecting too much because of that one game against the Spurs when he abused Enrique. Our PG has a bad habit of letting opposing PGs go off tbh.Speaking of old shticks.

Are you still in touch with your fallen comrade? :cry

[SAGirl]

On the other hand, I have never been more disappointed in Kyle. He lauded like he felt "entitled." Lazy and sloppy. I would expect seeing a strong game from Simmons would have shaken him out of his lethargy, but No.
I am kind of disappointed in him too. I can't give you a full feedback bc I was watching ants play for a long while the minutes he was there, and then I was more focused on Simmons. But I am disappointed that he's not even looking to score. He could have actually drawn fouls a couple of times, one with a shot fake when he got a guy in the air and then passed out to where he thought Simmons was, and he had moved. The other time he was close to the rim, but he shied away from being aggressive and passed out.

He always looked to move the ball though. You can tell that for sure when he's in the ball never sticks. He finds guys constantly. So at this point, I am starting to think Pop doesn't want to see him showcase his scoring skills like in SL, but just developing his passing.

It's the same as with Danny, you see him do some headscratching things and you have to wonder and think they are Pop sanctioned for his development.

Kyle can be aggressive, we saw that in SL, but here he's not looking to score, but to move the ball. I have seen his passiveness in enough games already that I think it has to be Pop sanctioned. If Pop wanted him to score or be aggresive offensively, he would push him to do that, the way he does Simmons, asking him to run ahead in transition and attack the basket

Defensively he was taken out for a guy he didn't contest for a midrange shot and Pop should absolutely keep him in a short leash defensively. If he's not going to be scoring and he's there to develop, he has to hustle and haul ass, not take this for granted.

At this point, I am all for Pop coaching him hard. Some guys need that.

[SpurPadre]

He didn't do much in Sac. You're probably expecting too much because of that one game against the Spurs when he abused Enrique. Our PG has a bad habit of letting opposing PGs go off tbh.

I live a half hour away from Sac so I get to see plenty of Kings games and I saw a lot of Ray as a King. He had glimpses of smart, heady play and showed ability to score in bunches. His defense was always suspect but he always hustled and was calm on the floor.

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWABB3MWcAAal0w.jpg

[FkLA]

Speaking of old shticks.

Are you still in touch with your fallen comrade? :cry

I'm friends with him on Facebook. He's a strong person, I have no doubts that he'll persevere and get through this tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm friends with him on Facebook. He's a strong person, I have no doubts that he'll persevere and get through this tbh.:lmao

[SpurPadre]

I'm friends with him on Facebook. He's a strong person, I have no doubts that he'll persevere and get through this tbh.

You talking about apalisoc? (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11260) (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11260)

[GSH]

He had 5 assts 2 blocks.
He's fine as a third string PG.
We have to remember he barely plays with this crew.


I appreciate your optimism, but I didn't see it that way. Right now he's fine as a third string PG who never gets into the game, except garbage time. Be nice if he was a third string PG who could take some of the minute load off the others, and keep the ship upright if there was an injury. He didn't show me that tonight. I don't hate him, I just think he looked like a D-League player. Good on Pop for getting him some serious minutes against real competition. He'll either get better or he won't.

[eyeh8u]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWABB3MWcAAal0w.jpg

im surprised it wasn't like this

http://s27.postimg.org/yg5217g77/phots.jpg

[BatManu20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpNvIzObQZI

[GSH]

I'm friends with him on Facebook. He's a strong person, I have no doubts that he'll persevere and get through this tbh.


I think my eyes are bleeding.

[BatManu20]

im surprised it wasn't like this

http://s27.postimg.org/yg5217g77/phots.jpg

:lol

[FkLA]

I live a half hour away from Sac so I get to see plenty of Kings games and I saw a lot of Ray as a King. He had glimpses of smart, heady play and showed ability to score in bunches. His defense was always suspect but he always hustled and was calm on the floor.

Eh, I didn't watch many Sac games but just looking at his boxscores/averages I didn't think he was doing much .


You talking about apalisoc? (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11260) (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11260)

Yep.

[steeledl]

I'm friends with him on Facebook. He's a strong person, I have no doubts that he'll persevere and get through this tbh.

:lmao

[SAGirl]

I guess I keep looking back to what CoJo gave us in that spot and feel underwhelmed, also considering Ray showed glimpses of being more capable last year with the Kings. It seems like his game has regressed and he seems a step slower compared to what I saw from him last year but maybe he needs more time to feel more comfortable with having a much more limited role.
Cojo played with our crew for 4 years, it really wasn't until year 3 that he had a lot more impact.
Ray is new and has been on a short string.
Still he may not be on Cojo levels...but Cojo is a really nice player and has been balling for the Raptors really well.
Ray is fine for a 3rd string PG and may yet improve in terms of being more familiar with guys.
Its tough to be on the bench and come out play PG with guys you don't have much chemistry particularly bc PG involves timing on passes and such.

Much easier to be Boban and do your thing, than be a third string PG with no chemistry with guys. IMO.

[sasaint]

I am kind of disappointed in him too. I can't give you a full feedback bc I was watching ants play for a long while the minutes he was there, and then I was more focused on Simmons. But I am disappointed that he's not even looking to score. He could have actually drawn fouls a couple of times, one with a shot fake when he got a guy in the air and then passed out to where he thought Simmons was, and he had moved. The other time he was close to the rim, but he shied away from being aggressive and passed out.

He always looked to move the ball though. You can tell that for sure when he's in the ball never sticks. He finds guys constantly. So at this point, I am starting to think Pop doesn't want to see him showcase his scoring skills like in SL, but just developing his passing.

It's the same as with Danny, you see him do some headscratching things and you have to wonder and think they are Pop sanctioned for his development.

Kyle can be aggressive, we saw that in SL, but here he's not looking to score, but to move the ball. I have seen his passiveness in enough games already that I think it has to be Pop sanctioned. If Pop wanted him to score or be aggresive offensively, he would push him to do that, the way he does Simmons, asking him to run ahead in transition and attack the basket

Defensively he was taken out for a guy he didn't contest for a midrange shot and Pop should absolutely keep him in a short leash defensively. If he's not going to be scoring and he's there to develop, he has to hustle and haul ass, not take this for granted.

At this point, I am all for Pop coaching him hard. Some guys need that.

More than his passivity tonight, I thought he was nonchalant. Big difference. For instance, there was a sequence late in the game when he threw a lazy pass that was almost picked from but for McCallum's hustle. Two or three passes later went to Kyle and he bobbled it in one hand before corralling it. Empty trip.

[eyeh8u]

:lol


I just found out Tomorrow's Spurs Game got Delisted from NBAtv and replaced by the Warriors Game, as a out of territory spurs fan i am sad.

[wildbill2u]

Boban is unleashed!!!!!!

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!

[SpurPadre]

Eh, I didn't watch many Sac games but just looking at his boxscores/averages I didn't think he was doing much .



Yep.

None of the Kings were doing much last year, can't blame him for the team he played for and his play did improve once Karl took over there. And you can't make a full judgment on a player just by looking at the box scores. I stress, he had GLIMPSES of solid play, I never said he was always successful. But at the end of the day, he's not going to be more than a third string PG for the Spurs. I thought he could grow into more and not be much of a step down from CoJo, if at all, but he doesn't seem to be a fit with this team this year.

[SAGirl]

More than his passivity tonight, I thought he was nonchalant. Big difference. For instance, there was a sequence late in the game when he threw a lazy pass that was almost picked from but for McCallum's hustle. Two or three passes later went to Kyle and he bobbled it in one hand before corralling it. Empty trip.
Oh I missed that. Pop will straighten that up. As it is Simmons is looking much better than him, so maybe he felt dejected, and had mentally checked out of the game. Things like that show a lack of focus for sure. His mind was on something else.

[FkLA]

:lmao

I'm done with your scrubby ass. Don't quote me again. Srs.

[kobyz]

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but that's the seventh close game for Ws (decided in final minutes or OT). Spurs had the NOP loss and are 2-4 in close games. So 5 games apart in standings, but more like 2-3 expected wins.

LOL thinking that Spurs losing and Warriros winning close games has any type of coincidence in it... LOL not seeing Spurs had twice as soft and weak of schedule has the Dabs... LOL homer at is hardest...

[steeledl]

I'm done with your scrubby ass. Don't quote me again. Srs.

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[SpurPadre]

Cojo played with our crew for 4 years, it really wasn't until year 3 that he had a lot more impact.
Ray is new and has been on a short string.
Still he may not be on Cojo levels...but Cojo is a really nice player and has been balling for the Raptors really well.
Ray is fine for a 3rd string PG and may yet improve in terms of being more familiar with guys.
Its tough to be on the bench and come out play PG with guys you don't have much chemistry particularly bc PG involves timing on passes and such.

Much easier to be Boban and do your thing, than be a third string PG with no chemistry with guys. IMO.

Agree with all that but I do think he's a step slower than what I saw from him last year. He doesn't look like he's in as good a shape. I'd like for him to play more games in Austin.

[Silver&Black]

im surprised it wasn't like this

http://s27.postimg.org/yg5217g77/phots.jpg

Well done sir....

Job very well done.

[SpursOwn]

D'angelo Russell with the most unimpactful 24/6/6 maybe ever.

[SpurPadre]

LOL, ESPN has pretty much interviewed every Warrior player on Sportscenter. I think their janitor is next.

[SAGirl]

I appreciate your optimism, but I didn't see it that way. Right now he's fine as a third string PG who never gets into the game, except garbage time. Be nice if he was a third string PG who could take some of the minute load off the others, and keep the ship upright if there was an injury. He didn't show me that tonight. I don't hate him, I just think he looked like a D-League player. Good on Pop for getting him some serious minutes against real competition. He'll either get better or he won't.
Agree with you that he didn't impress, but I guess I am more prone to giving new and younger guys a chance.
He doesn't have a high ceiling, but he's a third string PG who has barely played with our guys. He should be good enough for that.
If we compare him with Cojo we are going to be disappointed, but Cojo looked really marginal as a player his first 2 years and even his 3rd wasn't anything spectacular.
When Ray plays, the offense has to go through Kawhi and LMA as it did tonight. He was exposed on D more on account of switches with Danny and he was guarding guys he had no business guarding. He still put in the effort though.

I would say he was nothing special, but should be fine for a 3rd string PG. He was good enough to net us a win here. There is not much to like, but also not much to hate. He was ok I would say.

[sasaint]

Oh I missed that. Pop will straighten that up. As it is Simmons is looking much better than him, so maybe he felt dejected, and had mentally checked out of the game. Things like that show a lack of focus for sure. His mind was on something else.

I thought he played with a "hey, my position is secure on this team so I can take a series (or game!) off from time to time. No biggie." I hope I am wrong. I know that you and I have chatted since summer league about Kyle in a very positive way, but it will not take too many games like this to get me down on him. The contrast in effort levels between him and Simmons is starting to really cause me some concern. I understand they play completely different styles and roles, but Kyle's effort is starting to look "wanting" to me.

[SAGirl]

Agree with all that but I do think he's a step slower than what I saw from him last year. He doesn't look like he's in as good a shape. I'd like for him to play more games in Austin.
I agree, it could be a good idea, specially to raise his confidence in the offense.
It seems to me he's athletic but not quick, if you get my meaning. He can jump and run, but he doesn't have the famous quick first step. His BBIQ might be limited too.

He's a guy that will need to be really familiar with the offense and play off others. At least he can shoot the 3 and that helps spacing more than Cojo. He should be able to play off others better I hope.

[GSH]

and had mentally checked out of the game.

Anderson doesn't check out of the game, but he checks out of plays. I've talked about it before. I don't know if he doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing, or if it is really a mental lapse. But there are times he just becomes a spectator on the floor.

The starters make their share of lazy, sloppy passes. Especially that first pass after a defensive board. (Watch Boban - he's very careful with that pass.) But I've watched Anderson on offense, standing out beyond the 3P line, watching the action like it's on TV. Many times watching at home I've backed it up to ask, "What the hell was he doing on that play?"

Hopefully it's just because he's young.

[eyeh8u]

Well done sir....

Job very well done.


thank you , it feels good when people appreciate my art. Hard work pays off.

[SAGirl]

I thought he played with a "hey, my position is secure on this team so I can take a series (or game!) off from time to time. No biggie." I hope I am wrong. I know that you and I have chatted since summer league about Kyle in a very positive way, but it will not take too many games like this to get me down on him. The contrast in effort levels between him and Simmons is starting to really cause me some concern. I understand they play completely different styles and roles, but Kyle's effort is starting to look "wanting" to me.

I am not sure, since I didn't pay too much attention at the end. I watch the games on League Pass, and this one is not yet available due to black outs so I was streaming it in my laptop and a good chunk of the time he played I saw it tiny, and at the end, I was not really paying attention, as there was a bit of lag and the game was over anyway.

If what you observed is true, Pop will get him over himself real quick.

In previous games, I have seen passiveness, but he always put effort on defense and looked to move the ball. I even saw him engaged talking to guys specially on defense. It exasperated me before that he was offensively so passive, but I figured that Pop didn't want him to take bad shots and only shoot if he was wide open, which would explain his hesitations.

This particular game, I am not sure, Pop got T'ed up, Danny got benched, and he might have checked out of it mentally as he wasn't playing particularly well himself. It might be a sign of mental weakness in his part if he mentally checked out of the game. Not a good trait if that is the case I agree.

[SpurPadre]

I agree, it could be a good idea, specially to raise his confidence in the offense.
It seems to me he's athletic but not quick, if you get my meaning. He can jump and run, but he doesn't have the famous quick first step. His BBIQ might be limited too.

He's a guy that will need to be really familiar with the offense and play off others. At least he can shoot the 3 and that helps spacing more than Cojo. He should be able to play off others better I hope.

This is probably more an indictment on the Kings but he was actually one of their smarter players on the floor last year. I get what you mean about his athleticism. While he would never have the ability to dunk on Ibaka like CoJo, he often hustled and went after 50/50 balls quite often as a King. He also showed ability to drive effectively to the lane. He doesn't have that quick first step but he had an unwavering confidence about him last year. That's probably what stood out for me, was his confidence to be a jack of all trades on the floor. He also had good chemistry with Cousins and looked like someone who can spot start for any team and grow into a solid backup for a contender. I expected more from him out of the gate, really. But he's playing in a much more complicated system, whereas he did alot of freelancing with the Kings. Hopefully, he can find some more playing time in Austin soon.

[SAGirl]

Anderson doesn't check out of the game, but he checks out of plays. I've talked about it before. I don't know if he doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing, or if it is really a mental lapse. But there are times he just becomes a spectator on the floor.

The starters make their share of lazy, sloppy passes. Especially that first pass after a defensive board. (Watch Boban - he's very careful with that pass.) But I've watched Anderson on offense, standing out beyond the 3P line, watching the action like it's on TV. Many times watching at home I've backed it up to ask, "What the hell was he doing on that play?"

Hopefully it's just because he's young.

I doubt he doesn't know what he's doing. Everyone has mentioned he's a smart player, and lets be honest, Becky doesn't get that SL championship without his leadership. He really was engaged with that group. They struggled mightily when he was not on the floor as they sometimes didn't know sets or what they were doing. No Kyle's thing might be something else, its not BBIQ.

I think he's possibly disengaged offensively. His role is defense, rebounding, moving the ball, shoot only if he's open. I have hated it when he's become so passive offensively, that he's not even looking for his shot, and almost doesn't want the ball. But I think Pop doesn't want him to look for his shot. He's only taken his shots when he's forced to by the shot clock. He's made a lot of end of the shot clock shots that have saved posessions. Those are shots Pop would not want him to take in any other scenario.

He drifts at the 3 pt line with the only directive to shoot if he's wide open and no one is closing him out.

He has had good games where he screens, cuts and keeps active and plays off the ball really well, but those are games when the game is on the line, those are actual minutes.

In garbage time he drifts. Call it Bobcats Diaw, Diaw 1.0 or whatever. He always differs to others in garbage time. He's not going to show up in garbage time to show Pop he can play. Heck for all we know, he's not on the line to come show up in garbage time, and Pop would rather see other guys like Boban.

In the 76ers game I remember seeing Pop continue to call plays for Boban.

I am talking about other games, and not so much this one, bc as I mentioned to sasaint this game was so tiny in my laptop for a good chunk of his time that I really missed much of what he did, what I did see wasn't good. Then garbage time I skipped pretty much on account of lag.

[SAGirl]

This is probably more an indictment on the Kings but he was actually one of their smarter players on the floor last year. I get what you mean about his athleticism. While he would never have the ability to dunk on Ibaka like CoJo, he often hustled and went after 50/50 balls quite often as a King. He also showed ability to drive effectively to the lane. He doesn't have that quick first step but he had an unwavering confidence about him last year. That's probably what stood out for me, was his confidence to be a jack of all trades on the floor. He also had good chemistry with Cousins and looked like someone who can spot start for any team and grow into a solid backup for a contender. I expected more from him out of the gate, really. But he's playing in a much more complicated system, whereas he did alot of freelancing with the Kings. Hopefully, he can find some more playing time in Austin soon.
That is exactly my point, as you mention chemistry with Cousins. He has no chemistry with these guys, probably has the most with Boban from their dleague games and garbage time.

[BatManu20]

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[SAGirl]

I thought he played with a "hey, my position is secure on this team so I can take a series (or game!) off from time to time. No biggie." I hope I am wrong. I know that you and I have chatted since summer league about Kyle in a very positive way, but it will not take too many games like this to get me down on him. The contrast in effort levels between him and Simmons is starting to really cause me some concern. I understand they play completely different styles and roles, but Kyle's effort is starting to look "wanting" to me.
I just thought about what you wrote here and I am reminded how Pop said he would look good one moment and atrocious the next.
:lol
I guess he is still in that stage. I am sure if Pop looks at this film he will shake his head same as you, and get on his ear.

[Kawhitstorm]

Is Tiago playing tomorrow?

Shitter is going to wet his pants when he sees Boban:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Tbf the chant was from the Cali transplants and fat SA bandwagoners, I don't think it was Spurs fans.

Who the hell moves from Cali to SA?:lmao Must be cholos w/ criminal records (aka fellow rapist)

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[SAGirl]

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thanks for sharing BatManu.
I liked JSimms interview, he said Pop screamed it at him that he was starting the second half.

I guess Pop was really upset lol

[Ice009]

I think so.
He's a more explosive leaper than Kawhi, and has really quick first step.
If Kawhi had that level of explosiveness he'd be Lebron.

I agree. I wonder, at this level, can someone like Kawhi develop more explosiveness or not really? I always thought that if he had a quicker first step and more explosive vertical, he'd be a lot closer to Lebron as far as being unstoppable goes (they still have different games as Lebron is a better play maker). This is why I really wanted him to work with Tim Grover (Jordan's former trainer) the past couple of off-seasons after I read that Kawhi wanted to work with him. I'm sure I read about it around two off-seasons ago that he was supposed to work with him, but I don't think that it ever happened. I was hoping that Grover could help make him a little more explosive.

[dabom]

Kawhi is a fucking specimen himself. Way better athlete than Simmons. Not too many 245lb wings. Just look at his dunk reels.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2BmYM5xq3U

[dabom]

Wing-stop shirts with Spurs logo. :worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::w orthy::worthy:

[SAGirl]

I agree. I wonder, at this level, can someone like Kawhi develop more explosiveness or not really? I always thought that if he had a quicker first step and more explosive vertical, he'd be a lot closer to Lebron as far as being unstoppable goes (they still have different games as Lebron is a better play maker). This is why I really wanted him to work with Tim Grover (Jordan's former trainer) the past couple of off-seasons after I read that Kawhi wanted to work with him. I'm sure I read about it around two off-seasons ago that he was supposed to work with him, but I don't think that it ever happened. I was hoping that Grover could help make him a little more explosive.
With the gym rat reputation that Kawhi has, I am sure he has maximized the athleticism and explosiveness he has.
Even in draft measurements, he was not ever recorded to be an explosive leaper and his lack of a super quick first step, which made it hard for him to blow by guys, combined with his lack of a 3 pt shot is part of the reason he was not projected to be the superstar that he's become.

I think he has maximized all his tools and genetics just really establish a limit. The good news for Kawhi is that his game does not depend on him being a leaper. He doesn't have the same situation that a guy like J.Simms, who would need to add other things to his game, after his explosiveness goes, would be in, but J.Simms is a role player. AT this point, he can call himself lucky to exploit his God-given hops for a few more years. Because he's older he could possibly have a shorter career.

[dabom]

I'm not so sure Simmons could dunk with 40 extra pounds. :wtf

[BatManu20]

:cry

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[SpursFan86]

I'm not so sure Simmons could dunk with 40 extra pounds. :wtf

Kawhi wasn't an insane athlete even when he came into the league at a much lower weight. He has insane physical attributes (size/length), but in terms of strict athleticism, he's not elite in that aspect. I'd say he's slightly above average. But slightly above average athleticism combined with ridiculous size/length = physical freak.

FWIW, Simmons's vertical coming into the league was half a foot higher than Kawhi's. I know hops aren't the only aspect of athleticism, but it's not like Kawhi is blazingly fast or anything either. I really don't see how you could say Kawhi is a "way better athlete" than Simmons.

[littlecoyotecoin]

You guys ready to quit on McCallum as having any kind of impact or future with this team?

Not an impressive shooting display, but a decent game. Led the team in assists in 23 minutes. 1/2 from 3. Zero turnovers in 23 minutes. First start and most significant minutes of his 12 games played. He did fine. Showed a little more confidence and a little more aggressiveness. He did ok.

[SAGirl]

Not an impressive shooting display, but a decent game. Led the team in assists in 23 minutes. 1/2 from 3. Zero turnovers in 23 minutes. First start and most significant minutes of his 12 games played. He did fine. Showed a little more confidence and a little more aggressiveness. He did ok.
:tu:tu
I agree with you. He played a role, and he did it well.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I guess I keep looking back to what CoJo gave us in that spot and feel underwhelmed, also considering Ray showed glimpses of being more capable last year with the Kings. It seems like his game has regressed and he seems a step slower compared to what I saw from him last year but maybe he needs more time to feel more comfortable with having a much more limited role.

I sound like a broken record, but: Cory was here four years. Ray just got here. Ray has only been in NBA 2 years to CJ 4, as well. CJ all w/ The Spurs, playing here or in Austin, learning the system. Ray may never be as good as Cory, but you should be comparing Ray to second year CJ. Unfortunately everyone suffers from recency bias and 3rd or 4th year CJ and his Ibaka dunk. Take that away, put him in a time machine back to his second year with The Spurs, and there is no love affair with him. Hell, I didn't think he was worth a shit even after 4 years. He stepped up when Patty went down, but was just a slightly above average warm body that had the benefit of playing his entire career in our system.

[cjw]

LOL thinking that Spurs losing and Warriros winning close games has any type of coincidence in it... LOL not seeing Spurs had twice as soft and weak of schedule has the Dabs... LOL homer at is hardest...

Umm, both have had cake schedules. And in terms of Pythagorean wins, Ws are one better. There's a difference, but not a 15 game difference in final W/L record as the current records would indicate. There's also a reason the Spurs are the only team favored against the Ws the rest of the season in the two home games:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016.html

In any other season, the Spurs would be a prohibitive title favorite given the first 30% of the season. This isn't a normal season though.

[kobyz]

Umm, both have had cake schedules. And in terms of Pythagorean wins, Ws are one better. There's a difference, but not a 15 game difference in final W/L record as the current records would indicate. There's also a reason the Spurs are the only team favored against the Ws the rest of the season in the two home games:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016.html

In any other season, the Spurs would be a prohibitive title favorite given the first 30% of the season. This isn't a normal season though.
Warriors might have a somewhat easy schedule but Spurs schedule is by far weaker than even that so the record at this point being with 5 loses is bad, Spurs playing poor basketball and you fool even to think they should be favorite over the likes of cavs, thunder, clippers...

[LakerHater]

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[cjw]

Warriors might have a somewhat easy schedule but Spurs schedule is by far weaker than even that so the record at this point being with 5 loses is bad, Spurs playing poor basketball and you fool even to think they should be favorite over the likes of cavs, thunder, clippers...

The offense isn't clicking, but still top 5 in the league right now. Here are the teams with sub-100 DRtg since 2004-05 - the past ten years, or since the NBA did away with hand-checking and made other pro-offense rule changes (6 teams alone in 2003-2004):

This year's Spurs 94.4


2005
Spurs
98.8


2006
Spurs
99.6


2007
Bulls
99.6


2007
Spurs
99.9


2008
Celtics
98.9


2012
Celtics
98.2


2012
Bulls
98.3


2012
Sixers
99.2


2013
Pacers
99.8


(Bulls, Celtics, Heat are all between 99-100 this year too.)

You can't tell me that's not elite.

I guess Vegas is a fool too. You should move there and make some money. Cavs and Thunder, fine. Not favored over the Clippers? They're awful right now.

[dabom]

Kawhi wasn't an insane athlete even when he came into the league at a much lower weight. He has insane physical attributes (size/length), but in terms of strict athleticism, he's not elite in that aspect. I'd say he's slightly above average. But slightly above average athleticism combined with ridiculous size/length = physical freak.

FWIW, Simmons's vertical coming into the league was half a foot higher than Kawhi's. I know hops aren't the only aspect of athleticism, but it's not like Kawhi is blazingly fast or anything either. I really don't see how you could say Kawhi is a "way better athlete" than Simmons.

Are you a fucking moron? I saw Kawhi up close. Just like hater. Just like bill simmons calling him a top 5 athlete in the game. He is a fucking monster and way way better athlete than simmons.

Kawhi came into the league at 230. Simmons was 195 this year at 27 years old. He wouldn't be able to fucking dunk if he weighted 245 pounds. That's just real talk.

[dabom]

Sorry for the cussing. Had to express self.

[kobyz]

The offense isn't clicking, but still top 5 in the league right now. Here are the teams with sub-100 DRtg since 2004-05 - the past ten years, or since the NBA did away with hand-checking and made other pro-offense rule changes (6 teams alone in 2003-2004):

This year's Spurs 94.4


2005
Spurs
98.8


2006
Spurs
99.6


2007
Bulls
99.6


2007
Spurs
99.9


2008
Celtics
98.9


2012
Celtics
98.2


2012
Bulls
98.3


2012
Sixers
99.2


2013
Pacers
99.8


(Bulls, Celtics, Heat are all between 99-100 this year too.)

You can't tell me that's not elite.

I guess Vegas is a fool too. You should move there and make some money. Cavs and Thunder, fine. Not favored over the Clippers? They're awful right now.

Spurs offense sucks big time, i don't care what some numbers say, they played against weak ass schedule, defense also overrated, 5 loses is a disgrace...