France vs. Serbia (Eurobasket Elimination Round)

[FreshPrince22]

Just started. Figured I'd start a thread for those interested. I noticed Tony Parker isn't in the starting lineup. Anyone know why? I know he's struggled so far, but still.
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[waly.mg]

End of the 1st Q

SYM 23 - France 18

Parker: 0, 0 and 0 and 1TO

Now: SYM 26 - France 18

[Pistons < Spurs]

http://www.eurobasket2005.com/netcasting/default.asp?game_number=4317-28-A&microsite_scope=undefined

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1 Assist ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

26 - 38

[Pistons < Spurs]

wow...he just made 2 FT's too!

[waly.mg]

2 FT and one foul

Come on: 2 Points, SYM is scared

[waly.mg]

Another 2 FT and a Field Goal

32 - 39 - TP on Fire

[Slomo]

TP penetrating and scoring with "his" tear drop!
He's waking up...

[waly.mg]

Darko is playing as the Human Cigar in SYM too

Radmanovic 7 Pts
MJaric 3 Pts
Rebraca 4
Kristic 6

[Kamnik]

it seems to me like Tony plays without any passion

furthermore-he wants to go home since game 1 in EC (just look how he stands away)

Why do i say this?

Because he shows that he CAN play sometimes and really penetrates! (he collapses whole defense on him)

He doesnt want to play imo! Just look at him stand around...

[FreshPrince22]

Darko is playing as the Human Cigar in SYM too

Radmanovic 7 Pts
MJaric 3 Pts
Rebraca 4
Kristic 6

He usually comes in at the end of the 3rd quarter and plays the rest of the game, even when the game is close. Against israel it was tied when he came in, and he put up 11 points, 7 boards, 3 blocks, and a steal in the last 14 minutes. All part of a 20-0 run for Serbia.
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[Slomo]

OT

Where does FIBA come up with these clowns they call referees????

I haven't seen decent refing in the EC yet.

[waly.mg]

Sorry

Radmanovic 3
Rakocevic 7
Boriroga 7

[velik_m]

Come on Tony ... you can do it!

Go France Go!

[waly.mg]

He usually comes in at the end of the 3rd quarter and plays the rest of the game.

Yes, if SYM is ahead by 20

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Parker TO and Radmanovic 3PT

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Parker´s last second 3PT missed

At the Half:

France 35 - SYM 44

[FreshPrince22]

Yes, if SYM is ahead by 20

Read my post again. I edited it. And no, every time he's been put in so far it's been within 10 points or less. Maybe you should watch the games before commenting and making yourself look dumb.
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[waly.mg]

So, now Darko is the spade of the Matador

France 7-0 start without TP

42-44

[cheguevara]

Serbia has a monster team, props to France to make it close.

Darko: 0,0,0 :lol

[boutons]

who's at PG behind TP?

[FreshPrince22]

Serbia has a monster team, props to France to make it close.

Darko: 0,0,0 :lol

I really don't get why the SCG coach isn't playing Darko. Everyone over there has been raving about him. ESPN even gave him the highest "grade" of the NBA players in their group. Draftexpress.com had a big article about how well he was doing as well. These veteran-whoring coaches really piss me off.
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[waly.mg]

With 8 min left

France 63 - SYM 58

Tony 11 Pts

[Slo spurs fan]

WOOOOHOOOOOO!!!
Tony is on fire!!!

[boutons]

Allez Les Bleus!! Allez Tony!! Dechirez un nouveau trou de cul dans SYM!! :lol

[boutons]

and France is playing in hostile gym, right?

[Slomo]

who's at PG behind TP?
Rigaudeau

and today he was actually in front of Tony (he started the game).

[Slo spurs fan]

and France is playing in hostile gym, right?
Yep

[zeleni]

Man, Parker is running like a killing mashine.

He will be the couse of all the Serbian fatigue, he flies like a rocket. And only makes layups. ;) He obviously has learned what was killing him before. Realisin' he is a dashing one-trick pony has made him a better player for his team. But he WILL be murderous when he gets the jumper.... when...

My money is on France. (sorry SCG)

[boutons]

TP 2 ST! he's found his energy! Vas-y Toneee!

[waly.mg]

64 - 64 3 minutes left

Tony last points ) 9:11 left

[Slo spurs fan]

WHAT a FUCKING GREAT play by TONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[boutons]

F. Pietrus coming up huge in crunch time.

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M. Pietrus in Charge

[Slo spurs fan]

France +4, less than 2 min.

[waly.mg]

TP lay up: 13 Pts : 70 - 66

[boutons]

Un Pietrus peut cacher un autre! :)

[waly.mg]

Rakocevic 68-70
TP missed 2p

[SLOVENIAN 8]

TP sems to be reborn :lol

[Marklar MM]

LOL. Obradovic(sp), SCG's coach, has gone Larry Brown and won't play Darko. Befuddles many people, considering he is playing great for them. Keeps using old slow players.

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71-72

2FT France

71-73

[Slomo]

Allez les bleus!

[waly.mg]

France 2FT

[nkdlunch]

damn, now I know the missing free throws is a French thing

[picnroll]

Christ I think Duncan could teach Diaw how to shoot FTs.

[Slomo]

Christ I think Duncan could teach Diaw how to shoot FTs.
:lmao
True!

[boutons]

ca y est!! c'est gagne!!! bravo La France!!

[ata]

Go France, go. 10 sec remaining +3

[waly.mg]

71 - 74 15 seconds

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SCG 2FT

Milicic INNNNNNNNN

[boutons]

ouais! Darko arrive, c'est vraiment le moment pour une cigare!!

[boutons]

Rebraca chokes at the line !!!

[Marklar MM]

LMAO. Darko gets in with like 10 seconds left, and gets a rebound.

[waly.mg]

Jaric missed 2 FT
Milicic Rebound but m,issed the shot
6 second France 2FT

[Slo spurs fan]

France won!!!!

[boutons]

Darko out, put away your matches!

[waly.mg]

SCG MIssed 2 again

[ata]

Serbia LOST! :elephant :elephant

WTG France! :king

Me happy! :drunk

[waly.mg]

Radmanovic missed 3p

France wins

[boutons]

Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!

La France fait son co co ri co!!!

[Marklar MM]

I am surprised that the Serbian coach was so stupid as to not play Milicic, other than for a whole 10 seconds or whatever it was.

[FreshPrince22]

Wow, the Serbian coach is an ass. Darko gets 9 seconds of playing time, and gets a rebound and a steal. :lol

I heard if they don't have a good showing the coach will fired. I hope so. Get a coach who will actually play their best players.
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[Marklar MM]

Wow, the Serbian coach is an ass. Darko gets 9 seconds of playing time.

Larry Brown called him today. He told him to not play Darko to make it look like he was correct in never playing him.

[Slo spurs fan]

Larry Brown called him today. He told him to not play Darko to make it look like he was correct in never playing him.
:lol

[Kori Ellis]

Good job, France.

[Slo spurs fan]

Good job, France.

Well, well, well. You never said that for Slovenia when we won against France. :pctoss

[picnroll]

In the name of equal opportunity screw iinternational play.

[zeleni]

Man, now you can see how hard is to stop France's game...

Serbia and Montenegro was not a better team. France deserved quarterfinals and they will enjoy them, I am sure. When you have NBA centers pairing with hardly called canters of the opposition, u must use them. SMN didn't. So they lost. They even lost the rebounding game...with Nenad Krstic, Rebraca, Milicic... Rasho's game would kill France. The end was horrible to watch.

Tony was marvelous. Diaw had a terrible FT game, and nobody used it. Those are the little things you do, if you are a smart player. We counted all of his ribs, and got away with it. Serbs just hoped they are better anyways. Pathetic.

[zeleni]

In the name of equal opportunity screw iinternational play.

In the name of equal opportunity, screw NBA.

Just for the sake of Egalite. ;)

[velik_m]

Great game by Tony and France...congrats!

[ata]

Serbia is out of next World Championship!

[tp time]

the best performance in the history french basketball.. To win Serbia in Serbia...ouaa.

Parker, T. 23 min. 3 a, 13 pts

yes tony!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.sport24.fr/photos/1127248153.jpg

http://www.sports.fr/fr/images/features/200538/weis_vsserbie_ap.jpg

http://www.lequipe.fr/home/pts.gif

[14dave]

YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
Awsome game!!! :elephant :elephant

Allez la France!!!

[Slo spurs fan]

Serbia is out of next World Championship!

Aren't thay qualified as champs?

[Slo spurs fan]

In the name of equal opportunity screw iinternational play.

:rolleyes

[SLOVENIAN 8]

The fact is that Serbia have much better players than France, but as a team they fall this time and a coach is become to ... i dont know how to say.

In today game rance was better but Serbians did not play good this year so nothing special to me that they lost.......

[tp time]

they re out!

[Slo spurs fan]

they re out!
Why is that?

[tp time]

slovenia loves referees and fairplay.

[zeleni]

fair play maybe, but referees? That would be absurd!

I love refs, when they love me back 2 times over. That is not the case here.

[danyel]

Serbia is out of next World Championship!

Don't get too excited, they'll get an invite for sure.


Aren't thay qualified as champs?

No, the winner of the olympics (Argentina) is qualified to play the WBC and the WBC winner gets a seed for the olympics.

[cmurek]

Congrats to France!

Tony and co did a great job!

[Duncanoypi]

it seems to me like Tony plays without any passion

furthermore-he wants to go home since game 1 in EC (just look how he stands away)

Why do i say this?

Because he shows that he CAN play sometimes and really penetrates! (he collapses whole defense on him)

He doesnt want to play imo! Just look at him stand around...

a typical fan talking even though the game isnt finish... :angel

[angel_luv]

Move over TNT! What a read. You guys are great commentators! = )

Yea Tony! Prayer and hard work pays off once again.

Slovenia is still :king

[Slomo]

I've just hear from a friend in Belgrade that a fight broke out after the game in the SCG locker room.

Has anybody heard anything similar?

[Kobayagi]

I've just hear from a friend in Belgrade that a fight broke out after the game in the SCG locker room.

Has anybody heard anything similar?

Yes, a fight broke out between Igor Rakocevic and Marko Jaric. Actually all players split right after the game, only two of them returned to their hotel with a team bus. :lol

[Slomo]

According to AP: (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/21/sports/s035750D73.DTL)

Serbia-Montenegro Basketball Coach Quits

By DUSAN STOJANOVIC, Associated Press Writer

Wednesday, September 21, 2005


(09-21) 03:57 PDT NOVI SAD, Serbia-Montenegro (AP) -- Serbia-Montenegro basketball coach Zeljko Obradovic resigned Wednesday after his team's early exit from the European Championship and a locker room brawl between several teammates.

France beat Serbia-Montenegro 74-71 Tuesday to reach the quarterfinals, eliminating the hosts and reigning world champions with a 2-2 record.

Team captain Dejan Bodiroga, center Zeljko Rebraca of the Los Angeles Clippers and Dejan Tomasevic also announced they were quitting the national squad.

Obradovic blamed the team's "catastrophic play" on his feuding players.

He said Marko Jaric of the Minnesota Timberwolves and Igor Rakocevic of Real Madrid had a fist fight after the loss to France, as did Tomasevic and forward Vladimir Radmanovic of the Seattle SuperSonics.

"The players had bad personal relations, their egos led to this shameful end," Obradovic said. "My mistake was not throwing three or four of them off the team. They hate each other so much that they don't even look at each other. I've never seen such people before."

Asked if he would stay on as head coach, Obradovic said: "That would lead me straight to a madhouse. I'm already ready for an asylum. That's how I feel. I wish my successor lots and lots of luck!"

Tuesday's loss was the third straight setback at a major championship for Serbia-Montenegro, once the dominant power in European basketball. The team finished sixth at the previous European Championship two years ago and 11th at last year's Athens Olympics.

Serbia-Montenegro and the team formerly known as Yugoslavia have won eight European titles, but this was the team's worst showing at the Euros since a ninth place finish in 1967.

Serbia-Montenegro, led by five NBA players, had been expected to reach at least the quarterfinals. Instead, the team will not place among the top six European teams that qualify for the World Championship in Japan next year. The Serbs now hope they will get a wild card to be able to defend their title.

[angel_luv]

Wow!


"The players had bad personal relations, their egos led to this shameful end," Obradovic said. "My mistake was not throwing three or four of them off the team. They hate each other so much that they don't even look at each other. I've never seen such people before."

Asked if he would stay on as head coach, Obradovic said: "That would lead me straight to a madhouse. I'm already ready for an asylum. That's how I feel. I wish my successor lots and lots of luck!"

[Slomo]

Here's another one (although I must say the english articles are much more tame than the original Serbian ones - their coach really blew a fuse at yesterday's press conference):
(link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2167874))
Serbia and Montenegro coach resigns

Reuters



BELGRADE -- Serbia and Montenegro coach Zelimir Obradovic resigned after the team's 74-71 loss to France at the European basketball championship on Tuesday ended the host nation's hopes of a podium finish.

The defeat means that the Serbs will not be able to defend their world title as the top six from Eurobasket 2005 qualify for next year's world championship in Japan.

The Serbs struggled throughout the preliminary group stage in Novi Sad and lost the elimination game to France in the northern city with a dreadful second half performance to hand their unfancied rivals a berth in the last eight.

"The players have let me down completely, they have let themselves down and they let the whole country down," a bitter Obradovic told reporters after the match.

"Their egoism was their downfall as this group of outstanding individuals failed to blend into a team and produce the top quality basketball they are capable of," he added.

"The team chemistry was poor from the start of the preparation period and their long nights out until the early morning hours certainly didn't help."

The Serbs slumped to a crushing 89-70 defeat by Spain on the opening day before overcoming Israel and Latvia in their preliminary group to advance to the elimination play offs.

They led France 44-35 at halftime on Tuesday but not even a patriotic 10,000 home crowd or the tune of an ancient battlesong played during time outs could lift them past a more athletic and spirited French side.

Serbia and Montenegro has not won a medal under its new name after the former Federal Republic of Yugoslavia claimed the gold at the 2002 world championship in Indianapolis.

The Serbs will now have to endure watching their bitter Balkan rivals Slovenia and Croatia contest the final stage of the competition in the new Belgrade arena seating 20,000 fans.

"Disaster," said two Belgrade daily papers with identical front page headlines to describe the effects of a basketball giant's decline,

The daily Blic said that the players needed police escort to get away from angry fans as they left Novi Sad in a sombre mood after "failing to live up to expectations and the country's reputation of a basketball superpower."

[Slomo]

Obradovic (the coach) among other things said to the press: "These (the players) are the worst people I've ever met!"

[SLOVENIAN 8]

"The players had bad personal relations, their egos led to this shameful end," Obradovic said. "My mistake was not throwing three or four of them off the team. They hate each other so much that they don't even look at each other. I've never seen such people before."

Asked if he would stay on as head coach, Obradovic said: "That would lead me straight to a madhouse. I'm already ready for an asylum. That's how I feel. I wish my successor lots and lots of luck!"

It also writes that they were coming at 5am home and oly partying in Belgrade.

[nkdlunch]

So the Serbs are the Lakers of Europe huh? No wonder Kobe wanted Jaric and Stojakovich.

[Kobayagi]

This is coach Obradovic speaking at the press conference after the match.

Click (http://www2.b92.net/mp3/Obradovic_za_web_8min.mp3)

It's in serbian, so I guess this is only interesting to slovenian, croatian and serbian fans but maybe one of them (not me, I'm lazy) can translate some of it. It gives you the picture of serbian players' attitude at this championship. :king