Egypt: No evidence of terrorism in Metrojet crash despite Russia’s claims

[Nbadan]

...it's from the NY Post, so who knows, but if true...kinda undermines the whole reason why Russia is in Syria in the first place..

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/metrojet-crash.jpg?quality=100&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


Egypt’s Civil Aviation Ministry said Monday it has found no obvious signs that an “illegal or terrorist act” brought down a Russian passenger jet in October, in sharp contrast to Moscow’s view of the tragedy.

Chief investigator Ayman el-Muqadam said his committee has not found “any evidence” to support foul play in the Oct. 31 downing of Metrojet Flight 9268, killing all 224 people on board – most of them Russians coming home from holiday in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.

http://nypost.com/2015/12/14/egypt-no-evidence-of-terrorism-in-metrojet-crash-despite-russias-claims/

What's Putin up too?

[boutons_deux]

"undermines the whole reason why Russia is in Syria in the first place"

Russia is in Syria, along with Iran's support, to keep their long-time protege Assad in power.

Russia was initially attacking the the rebels trying to bring down Assad, and not attacking ISIS. The West and regional Sunnis want Assad gone, Russia and Shia Iran want Assad to stay.

[pgardn]

...it's from the NY Post, so who knows, but if true...kinda undermines the whole reason why Russia is in Syria in the first place..

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/metrojet-crash.jpg?quality=100&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1



http://nypost.com/2015/12/14/egypt-no-evidence-of-terrorism-in-metrojet-crash-despite-russias-claims/

What's Putin up too?

Why would Egypt admit it was terrorists? It is clearly in their interest that this is portrayed as an accident.

[Splits]

Dem Dutch, sneaky m'fers.

[lefty]

I blame lichtenstein

[Splits]

Uhh, there were no Lichtenstinians on flight MH17

[RandomGuy]

...it's from the NY Post, so who knows, but if true...kinda undermines the whole reason why Russia is in Syria in the first place..

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/metrojet-crash.jpg?quality=100&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1



http://nypost.com/2015/12/14/egypt-no-evidence-of-terrorism-in-metrojet-crash-despite-russias-claims/

What's Putin up too?

Egypt has a rather direct monetary interest in denying it was terrorism. I am more than a bit skeptical of that claim, until they can say what would cause a plane to fall out of the sky like that, with some really good evidence.

[RandomGuy]

Why would Egypt admit it was terrorists? It is clearly in their interest that this is portrayed as an accident.

Yeah, what you said.

[z0sa]

:lol it was terrorism, wingnut.

[velik_m]

...it's from the NY Post, so who knows, but if true...kinda undermines the whole reason why Russia is in Syria in the first place..

What's Putin up too?

In what way does it undermine the reason for Russia being in Syria? Russia got involved in Syria before the crash.

The Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War began on 30 September 2015 a full month before the accident.

And the "terrorist" theory was first floated by the british not russians: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11981239/Russian-plane-crash-sharm-el-sheikh-stranded-British-tourists-missile-latest-updates.html
http://nypost.com/2015/12/14/egypt-no-evidence-of-terrorism-in-metrojet-crash-despite-russias-claims/

From wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268):


Within a week of the crash, serious considerations were given to the notion that the plane had been intentionally brought down. The UK government said that in the light of further British intelligence, the crash "may well have been caused by an explosive device".[62] British aviation experts travelled to Egypt to assess airport security; the UK government Cobra emergency committee, chaired by the Prime Minister, considered their findings. The BBC reported that the British government thinks the incident was probably caused by terrorism based on intercepted transmissions between militants based in Sinai. These transmissions suggest that a bomb was put in the hold prior to takeoff. Although the British have not ruled out a technical fault, the BBC reports that is "increasingly unlikely".[63] Paul Adams, BBC world affairs correspondent, said that Prime Minister David Cameron's spokesperson left little doubt that the British government believed the aircraft was brought down by a bomb. Adams said that suspending flights both to and from a foreign country and insisting on your own technical experts assessing security demonstrated a lack of confidence in that country's own security measures.[62] Security experts and investigators have said the aircraft is unlikely to have been struck from the outside and Sinai militants are not believed to have any missiles capable of striking an airliner at 30,000 ft (9,100 m).[64][65]

US President Barack Obama made a statement on 5 November that the US government was taking the incident "very seriously", knowing that there was a possibility that a bomb was on board the flight.[66] At the same time, flights began to be stopped from and to Sharm el-Sheikh in Egypt, causing around 20,000 British tourists to be stranded.[67]

European investigators had found that the cockpit voice recorder data is consistent with an explosion and the flight data recorder cuts off abruptly.[68] On 8 November Reuters quoted an unnamed Egyptian investigation team member, speaking anonymously because of the sensitivity of the investigation, who said he was "90% sure" the airliner was brought down by a bomb, based on an initial analysis of the last second of the cockpit voice recording. Lead investigator Ayman al-Muqaddam said that other causes, such as lithium batteries overheating, a fuel explosion, or metal fatigue in the structure, still needed to be definitively ruled out.[8]

On 17 November 2015, the Russian security service chief Alexander Bortnikov announced that their investigation had concluded that a "terror act" brought down Metrojet Flight 9268 after traces of explosives were found in the wreckage. Spectral analysis was used among other methods to examine the substance found.[69] According to Russian officials, an improvised explosive device with power equivalent to up to 1 kilogram of TNT brought down the flight.[70][71][72][73] Russia offered a US$50 million reward for further information.[74][72] Reuters reported that, according to security sources, two employees of Egypt's Sharm el-Sheikh airport had been detained for questioning over the crash on suspicion of putting a bomb on board the flight. Egyptian authorities denied this.[75]

[hater]

Their tourism industry is in shambles. Of course it wasn't terrorism to them :lmao

[boutons_deux]

"Russia got involved in Syria before the crash."

... to hit the Syrian rebels trying to overthrow Russian/Iranian protege Assad, NOT to hit ISIS.

It looks like Russia has concluded that ISIS bombed the Russian airliner, so Russia is now hitting ISIS.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/18/russian_jets_strike_isis_targets_in_raqqa.html