I Think People Who Are Too Enamored With Team Play Are Hypocrites and Losers

[Koolaid_Man]

You hear it all the time...Tim Duncan is a team player and Kobe Bryant isn't...well guess what...FUCK OFF... The American way is ALL about SELF...we're taught selfishness and independence from birth....to me when you are too concerned with team play it means you have no fucking balls you're scared to be a man and stand on your own two feet so all day every day its team this and team that because you are inadequate as a person...

Don't get me wrong I believe in team play just not to the extent the media and Spur fan would have us believe as a fucking justification to kiss Tammy's ass...

He's the one who's a fool in my opinion he's playing this team play shit up to make himself seem like the all American team guy when that wasn't the case when he quit on his country....and nary a fucking word from the media....can you imagine if Kobe said in his prime that he'd never play for his country again after winning a fucking bronze medal..talk about the crucifixtion part 2...

Finally and personally if I was given the chance to be Kobe or to be Tim I would choose Kobe 10 / 10 times...think about it...Tim was all about team play and what has it gotten him? It has gotten him the same amount of rings as Kobe and literally about $450 million (adjusted for inflation) less in career earnings...(Tim Duncan ~250 million in career earnings)


Bryant’s career earnings will hit $680 million by the end of the season. On an inflation-adjusted basis the number is $762 million.

Bryant’s $680 million in total earnings is the most ever by a team athlete during their playing career. The only athletes to earn more are in individual sports and include Tiger Woods (http://www.forbes.com/profile/tiger-woods/),Michael Schumacher (http://www.forbes.com/profile/michael-schumacher/) and Floyd Mayweather (http://www.forbes.com/profile/floyd-mayweather/). - Forbes


So the question is even if Tim Duncan gets 6 rings would you opt for a fucking extra NBA ring vs. $450 MILLION EXTRA DOLLARS....not even 5 rings is worth 450 MILLION :lol

Case closed....Kobe has clearly had the better career by simple math based on the American Way...Timmy can't compete with that :lol real ass talk

Deal with it Spur fan....

[Buddy Mignon]

Yeah... FUCK JIM.

[DMC]

tl;dr

then he said "6th seed"

[Xevious]

Nobody argues his monetary accomplishments. Joe Johnson makes a shit load of money too... nobody's trying to talk up that asshole.

[Koolaid_Man]

Nobody argues his monetary accomplishments. Joe Johnson makes a shit load of money too... nobody's trying to talk up that asshole.

Because he has no rings..if your gonna use an example make sure it fits the arguement

[Koolaid_Man]

Nobody argues his monetary accomplishments. Joe Johnson makes a shit load of money too... nobody's trying to talk up that asshole.

Real question would you take Timmy's rings or Kobe's extra 450 million...be honest dude...aint no fucking rings worth that..because Tim Ddncan was boring he literally never cashed in on his rings...is there a valid reason other than being a true Alpha why Kobe has 450 million more in cash ?

[BD24]

Real question would you take Timmy's rings or Kobe's extra 450 million...be honest dude...aint no fucking rings worth that..because Tim Ddncan was boring he literally never cashed in on his rings...is there a valid reason other than being a true Alpha why Kobe has 450 million more in cash ?
If I had Tims money? Absolutely. If you don't spend your money like a complete fucking idiot Tims career earning are more than enough to live incredibly comfortably on.

If Tim wins 6 and Kobe only has 5 you better believe that shit will keep Kobe up at night. I promise you he would trade in 500 mill for a sixth ring.

[Xevious]

Because he has no rings..if your gonna use an example make sure it fits the arguement
That was your argument. It doesn't matter if Tim gets more rings, Kobe made more money. So by that Logic, Joe Johnson has had a better career than Bill Russell.

[Buddy Mignon]

If I had Tims money? Absolutely. If you don't spend your money like a complete fucking idiot Tims career earning are more than enough to live incredibly comfortably on.

If Tim wins 6 and Kobe only has 5 you better believe that shit will keep Kobe up at night. I promise you he would trade in 500 mill for a sixth ring.

I seriously doubt that now that Kobe is on record of not even considering Jim as one of his top competitors.

[Koolaid_Man]

If I had Tims money? Absolutely. If you don't spend your money like a complete fucking idiot Tims career earning are more than enough to live incredibly comfortably on.

If Tim wins 6 and Kobe only has 5 you better believe that shit will keep Kobe up at night. I promise you he would trade in 500 mill for a sixth ring.

You're lying through your fucking gap teeth...and no Kobe wouldn't ...if that were true he wouldn't have accepted 48.5 :lol

[Buddy Mignon]

You're lying through your fucking gap teeth...and no Kobe wouldn't ...if that were true he wouldn't have accepted 48.5 :lol

I bet he does have gap teeth...:lol

[BD24]

I seriously doubt that now that Kobe is on record of not even considering Jim as one of his top competitors.
He omits Tim because he knows people put Tim above him. Don't play stupid :lol.

That nigga hates that he isn't going to go down as the best player of the generation, it kills him.

[Koolaid_Man]

That was your argument. It doesn't matter if Tim gets more rings, Kobe made more money. So by that Logic, Joe Johnson has had a better career than Bill Russell.


Again your analogies are totally off? Are you retarded ? What is it that you don't understand about the topic at hand...we're talking about players with rings and money not rings or money get it now?

#dumbfuck :lol

[Buddy Mignon]

He omits Tim because he knows people put Tim above him. Don't play stupid :lol.

That nigga hates that he isn't going to go down as the best player of the generation, it kills him.

Keep telling yourself that.

[BD24]

You're lying through your fucking gap teeth...and no Kobe wouldn't ...if that were true he wouldn't have accepted 48.5 :lol
He knew people weren't coming anyway because no one wanted to play with his washed up old ass. So he probably figured might as well cash out.

[Koolaid_Man]

He omits Tim because he knows people put Tim above him. Don't play stupid :lol.

That nigga hates that he isn't going to go down as the best player of the generation, it kills him.

His peers consider him the best and fans consider him the best in the US and globally..the media are the ones who favor Duncan because of what I stated in my OP...pretty spot on

[lefty]

I agree with OP

Jim is beta

[Koolaid_Man]

He knew people weren't coming anyway because no one wanted to play with his washed up old ass. So he probably figured might as well cash out.


#facepalm

[Koolaid_Man]

I agree with OP

Jim is beta


Dam dude you got almost 80k posts :lol

[BD24]

His peers consider him the best and fans consider him the best in the US and globally..the media are the ones who favor Duncan because of what I stated in my OP...pretty spot on
Does someone really need to post the Map showing what the fans think Kool?

Anyway I'm going to go watch some hockey and fuck my wife. You and Luva have fun sucking each others dicks :toast

[Xevious]

Again your analogies are totally off? Are you retarded ? What is it that you don't understand about the topic at hand...we're talking about players with rings and money not rings or money get it now?

#dumbfuck :lol

"Case closed....Kobe has clearly had the better career by simple math based on the American Way..."

Theres nothing to get. You are arguing that Kobe had a better basketball career because he made more money. And you fucks are the ones that keep bringing up Kobe's money or Duncan's lawsuit, as if the average fan gives two shits which millionaire got richer while playing a game. So to answer your other question, I'd rather have Duncan's career even with the loss of some money.

[Koolaid_Man]

Does someone really need to post the Map showing what the fans think Kool?

Anyway I'm going to go watch some hockey and fuck my wife. You and Luva have fun sucking each others dicks :toast

You fucks dont get it..that map asks a very specific question.....about career not abilities...but I digress I've just proven with this thread that I'm literally smarter than lets say 500k people if thats the sample size. None of them in that poll would accept Tim's rings over and extra half a billion dollars..you're all got dam liars and hypocrites as my thread title says....no sane person would disagree with me...thus proving Kobe has had the better career

[Buddy Mignon]

Does someone really need to post the Map showing what the fans think Kool?

Anyway I'm going to go watch some hockey and fuck my wife. You and Luva have fun sucking each others dicks :toast

Pm me your wifes number and I bet I can cold call her and make her mine for a night. All I'd want is a night then you can have her back.

[Koolaid_Man]

"Case closed....Kobe has clearly had the better career by simple math based on the American Way..."

Theres nothing to get. You are arguing that Kobe had a better basketball career because he made more money. And you fucks are the ones that keep bringing up Kobe's money or Duncan's lawsuit, as if the average fan gives two shits which millionaire got richer while playing a game. So to answer your other question, I'd rather have Duncan's career even with the loss of some money.


You're still not getting it....yes I brought up Kobe and Duncan as a comparative analysis becsuse of the money AND rings...you brought up Joe Johnson and Bill Russell of which one has money while the other has rings...Again your analogy is off...because you never understood the premise of the argument by way of comparison

[BD24]

Pm me your wifes number and I bet I can cold call her and make her mine for a night. All I'd want is a night then you can have her back.
You tell yourself that. We both know the truth though.
Guys that actually fuck lots of hot girls don't feel the need to go tell a bunch of people they don't know about it on an internet forum all the time. Thats the truth right there.
Don't forget to wipe cools cum off your mouth when your done btw.

[Xevious]

You're still not getting it....yes I brought up Kobe and Duncan as a comparative analysis becsuse of the money AND rings...you brought up Joe Johnson and Bill Russell of which one has money while the other has rings...Again your analogy is off...because you never understood the premise of the argument by way of comparison
I understand it perfectly. Your boy has been in a freefall for a few years and is literally one of the worst players in the league at this point, and need something to cling to to keep him greater than Duncan in your eyes.

[BD24]

I understand it perfectly. Your boy has been in a freefall for a few years and is literally one of the worst players in the league at this point, and need something to cling to to keep him greater than Duncan in your eyes.
Pretty amazing the lengths Laker fan will go to prop up their hero Kobe isn't it?

[Buddy Mignon]

You tell yourself that. We both know the truth though.
Guys that actually fuck lots of hot girls don't feel the need to go tell a bunch of people they don't know about it on an internet forum all the time. Thats the truth right there.
Don't forget to wipe cools cum off your mouth when your done btw.


You're deflecting. Toss me her number... and we'll see who's fucking who.

[Koolaid_Man]

I understand it perfectly. Your boy has been in a freefall for a few years and is literally one of the worst players in the league at this point, and need something to cling to to keep him greater than Duncan in your eyes.


It takes skill but I can carve a brisket many different ways...

All of Kobe's rings are repeats while none of Duncans rings are
Kobe won in a pressure packed Market while Duncan won in a small town
Kobe played all of the games top tier players at his position while Duncan had no real competition at his position

And on and on...but you get my drift

[BD24]

You're deflecting. Toss me her number... and we'll see who's fucking who.
I could toss you numbers of 20 hot girls and the only thing you would be fucking is the pocket pussy Kool bought you for your birthday :lol

[Buddy Mignon]

It takes skill but I can carve a brisket many different ways...

All of Kobe's rings are repeats while none of Duncans rings are
Kobe won in a pressure packed Market while Duncan won in a small town
Kobe played all of the games top tier players at his position while Duncan had no real competition at his position

And on and on...but you get my drift

That 4-1 head to head is going to be a tough hill to get over.

[ambchang]

I don't get the obsession with money here. We are talking about a bunch of doctors and successful entrepreneurs who pull in $300k plus a year. Why are you all acting like a rabid dog that hasn't eaten in two weeks seeing a tenderloin when you talk about money, somebody else's money at that.

[Buddy Mignon]

I could toss you numbers of 20 hot girls and the only thing you would be fucking is the pocket pussy Kool bought you for your birthday :lol

I don't want 20 hot girls... I want your wife. Don't be a pussy.

[Xevious]

And on and on...but you get my drift
As I said, you need something to cling to... I get your drift.

[BD24]

I don't want 20 hot girls... I want your wife. Don't be a pussy.
Sure, give me your number and I'll give it my wife. Lets see who the pussy is now shall we?

[Buddy Mignon]

Sure, give me your number and I'll give it my wife. Lets see who the pussy is now shall we?


You dumb nigga. Your pussy is showing. I might as well fuck you instead.

[BD24]

You dumb nigga. Your pussy is showing. I might as well fuck you instead.
Well come on. If I give you her number I am going to see your number anyone. So come on with it tough guy.

Nothing? Thats what I thought. Pussy.

[Koolaid_Man]

That 4-1 head to head is going to be a tough hill to get over.

Yeah thats killing Mid and DPG...they have no answer for it...and when they open their mouth to try to respond I snatch the carpet from up under their feet with :

Kobe 2
Shaq 1

:lol

[Reck]

Money only factors in when you're a crazed psychopath whose only goal is to get rich and be lazy.

Poor kool and luva's only rethoric now is who got the most cash. :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Sure, give me your number and I'll give it my wife. Lets see who the pussy is now shall we?

Why would he give you his number when all you will do is throw it in the trash becsuse you're scared she actually wants his BBC....you won't pass it along we all know the game..however if you give him her number then you won't know when or where he will call or how they can cut you out of the know of their conversations....you the type of dweeb that likes to check her cell phone records well then he will call her from work or from an unlisted number...so again man up give him the number and let him fuck your bitch

[Splits]

His peers consider him the best and fans consider him the best in the US and globally..the media are the ones who favor Duncan because of what I stated in my OP...pretty spot on
Silver&Black (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20666) I'm on the road, no access to my links, please regulate this faggot with the ESPN polls

[Koolaid_Man]

Silver&Black (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20666) I'm on the road, no access to my links, please regulate this faggot with the two ESPN polls

:lol @ the polls....I've already addressed the polls you fucking cab driver...:lol

My OP disproves the polls and turns you guys into liars because you can't go on record as agreeing with me while we all know that behind closed doors you agree with my OP 100%

[Reck]

His peers consider him the best and fans consider him the best in the US and globally..the media are the ones who favor Duncan because of what I stated in my OP...pretty spot on

:lmao

He said he's considered the best globally. :lmao

If Kobe's considered the best than I guess Jordan is in God tier level. Kool you dumbass


https://kassieskorner.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/timmy.jpg

https://swishnba.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/bwtxfczcmae-dec-large.png

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/13/79/7f/13797fcdd9835272b8da97917bab4547.jpg

[Reck]

http://i66.tinypic.com/sc7uk2.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/21l0rqt.jpg

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/14264125/who-was-better-kobe-bryant-tim-duncan#comments

This is from this year, too. :lmao

The people have spoken kool.

[Koolaid_Man]

http://i66.tinypic.com/sc7uk2.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/21l0rqt.jpg

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/14264125/who-was-better-kobe-bryant-tim-duncan#comments

This is from this year, too. :lmao

The people have spoken kool.


All BSPN polls...the old Tammy stallworth...unfortunately they're bout as rigged as the Onion

[Reck]

All BSPN polls...the old Tammy stallworth...unfortunately they're bout as rigged as the Onion

:lmao

get real faggot.

[Koolaid_Man]

:lmao

get real faggot.


Uhh I'm real..lets not pretend that BSPN doesn't have it in for Kobe...I posted a thread where one of their journalists admitted they have bias against Kobe and they write articles to try to defame him...they're on record as admitting it

[Reck]

Uhh I'm real..lets not pretend that BSPN doesn't have it in for Kobe...I posted a thread where one of their journalists admitted they have bias against Kobe and they write articles to try to defame him...they're on record as admitting it

Its not just ESPN that considers Duncan the better player.

Google is your friend.

[Koolaid_Man]

Its not just ESPN that considers Duncan the better player.

Google is your friend.


Listen its a media driven narrative..Tim Duncan doesn't have all the tools or skills pure basketball wise to be better than Kobe.....he can't shoot better he can't defend better he csnnt run faster, he can't jump higher, he has less post moves as a big man, has less mid range game, and his not a vocal leader...so in no way from a basket ball perspective is he on Kobe's level...this is pure math..the media may love him because of his team play and sexual preferences and many fans may feed into that narrative based on their love of team play...it goes back to my OP....theres not a sane fan out there who would prefer Duncan career to Kobe's when put in the context that my OP does....and I never really mentioned his bronze medal...:lol

Again Kobe has the nod of 99% of ALL of the All-time greatest players in NBA history on his side....99% of All of the greatest players this generation and the previous and 99% of every collegiate athelete...and those joining the league today

That is the real measure of a players greatness...you cannot use public ESPN Polls as a validation and then turn around to discredit public Allstsar voting when its covienant for you...:toast

[Reck]

Listen its a media driven narrative..Tim Duncan doesn't have all the tools or skills pure basketball wise to be better than Kobe.....he can't shoot better he can't defend better he csnnt run faster, he can't jump higher, he has less post moves as a big man, has less mid range game, and his not a vocal leader...so in no way from a basket ball perspective is he on Kobe's level...this is pure math..the media may love him because of his team play and sexual preferences and many fans may feed into that narrative based on their love of team play...it goes back to my OP....theres not a sane fan out there who would prefer Duncan career to Kobe's when put in the context that my OP does....and I never really mentioned his bronze medal...:lol

Again Kobe has the nod of 99% of ALL of the All-time greatest players in NBA history on his side....99% of All of the greatest players this generation and the previous and 99% of every collegiate athelete...and those joining the league today

That is the real measure of a players greatness...you cannot use public ESPN Polls as a validation and then turn around to discredit public Allstsar voting when its covienant for you...:toast

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/39439x/duncan_vs_kobe_extended_analysis_using_advanced/

Stats dont lie mein neger. :toast :hat

[Spurtacular]

Listen its a media driven narrative..Tim Duncan doesn't have all the tools or skills pure basketball wise to be better than Kobe.....he can't shoot better he can't defend better he csnnt run faster, he can't jump higher, he has less post moves as a big man, has less mid range game, and his not a vocal leader...so in no way from a basket ball perspective is he on Kobe's level...this is pure math..the media may love him because of his team play and sexual preferences and many fans may feed into that narrative based on their love of team play...it goes back to my OP....theres not a sane fan out there who would prefer Duncan career to Kobe's when put in the context that my OP does....and I never really mentioned his bronze medal...:lol

Again Kobe has the nod of 99% of ALL of the All-time greatest players in NBA history on his side....99% of All of the greatest players this generation and the previous and 99% of every collegiate athelete...and those joining the league today

That is the real measure of a players greatness...you cannot use public ESPN Polls as a validation and then turn around to discredit public Allstsar voting when its covienant for you...:toast

:lmao

[Killakobe81]

Listen its a media driven narrative..Tim Duncan doesn't have all the tools or skills pure basketball wise to be better than Kobe.....he can't shoot better he can't defend better he csnnt run faster, he can't jump higher, he has less post moves as a big man, has less mid range game, and his not a vocal leader...so in no way from a basket ball perspective is he on Kobe's level...this is pure math..the media may love him because of his team play and sexual preferences and many fans may feed into that narrative based on their love of team play...it goes back to my OP....theres not a sane fan out there who would prefer Duncan career to Kobe's when put in the context that my OP does....and I never really mentioned his bronze medal...:lol

Again Kobe has the nod of 99% of ALL of the All-time greatest players in NBA history on his side....99% of All of the greatest players this generation and the previous and 99% of every collegiate athelete...and those joining the league today

That is the real measure of a players greatness...you cannot use public ESPN Polls as a validation and then turn around to discredit public Allstsar voting when its covienant for you...:toast

Dont agree with all but the poll argument is easily countered by all star votes so do they both count? funny how fans matter only when they agree with Spur fan ...for the record i have Tim slightly ahead of Kobe ...but Kool brings up some valid points along with his troll game.

I love how he snuck in sexual preferences in between the rest ...:rollin

[Silver&Black]

Silver&Black (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20666) I'm on the road, no access to my links, please regulate this faggot with the ESPN polls

http://i.imgur.com/S0jDK2L.png

I don't know what you're trying to accomplish Spits. These faggots never recognize the fact that even Californians think Duncan is the Player of the Generation.

And yes Capri...that little circle on the bottom right is the "globally" part of your post. Notice that it's red just like everything else.

[SpursBig3s]

I could toss you numbers of 20 hot girls and the only thing you would be fucking is the pocket pussy Kool bought you for your birthday :lol



:lmao POCKET PUSSY!! BMS was a great show

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Q: Why do people hate America?

A: Because doctors here let people die if there's a chance they won't profit off them.

[Koolaid_Man]

Dont agree with all but the poll argument is easily countered by all star votes so do they both count? funny how fans matter only when they agree with Spur fan ...for the record i have Tim slightly ahead of Kobe ...but Kool brings up some valid points along with his troll game.

I love how he snuck in sexual preferences in between the rest ...:rollin

You like Spur fan you are being intellectually dishonest about Tim being slightly ahead of Kobe..look I get it..we live in a what have you done for me lately world...and Tim has been on a good team while he personally produces very little bit he is on the team so he gets credit for the recent success....ESPiN however is on record admitting their personal and open Bias against Kobe....I created a thread proving it when Spur fan (I think DMC) tried to deny it.

I can see the arguement for Tim having a better career longevity wise because his team is still having success but my arguement is that Tim has had it much much easier than Kobe by virtue of the position he plays. He' s not asked to facilitate the offense, play the most athletic opposing player, defend the most athletic posing player..again Hakeem said it best..the 2 guard spot is the toughest in all of basketball....

Tim runs to a spot on the floor and waits for the ball....hell as he big man he even trails Kobe All time in assists and that should not be the case...because he has the ability to kick the ball out to his shooters when doubled and yet Kobe a shooting guard still leads him in assists....

Also the fact that that ESPN poll shows Tim Duncan as the better player globally proves its a sham...we all know that's not the case....I want to see the meta data or back and data from the poll..did they only sample from the islands and leave Europe and Asia off? Are you fucking kidding me?

ESPN is a joke when it comes to Kobe :lol

[ILoveOranges]

Why do you care so much? You spend so much time debating these people online.

Day in, day out.

It would be less sad if it weren't about the same thing every time, about the same two people.

I feel second-hand loneliness just seeing your name pop up on the forums.

[Koolaid_Man]

Why do you care so much? You spend so much time debating these people online.

Day in, day out.

It would be less sad if it weren't about the same thing every time, about the same two people.

I feel second-hand loneliness just seeing your name pop up on the forums.


Meh? If you have such strong feelings it means I'm doing my job ;-)

[pgardn]

Rape.


It will always be there. You go into personal money, wives leaving...


Rape.
Payed off.
Kool admires a Rapist.
You are safe Avante, Kool is cool with it.