Defensive Player of the Year

[DAF86]

...So far. Tim or Kawhi. Who you got?

[bic50]

Co dpoy

[TXstbobcat]

Leonard.

[Spurtacular]

Media doesn't want to give back to back DPOY's unless someone is head and shoulders above (which Leonard may be; but doubtful they see it that way). It may as well go to Timmy. He deserves the lifetime achievement award.

[bdictjames]

Kawhi with the goods. Timmy should have won it before though, but sadly, from an unbiased point of view, this is Kawhi's award to lose. Kawhi might very well be the NBA's next winner of a DPOY and MVP in the same season, I think Jordan was the last to do so.

[DAF86]

Media doesn't want to give back to back DPOY's unless someone is head and shoulders above (which Leonard may be; but doubtful they see it that way). It may as well go to Timmy. He deserves the lifetime achievement award.


Kawhi with the goods. Timmy should have won it before though, but sadly, from an unbiased point of view, this is Kawhi's award to lose. Kawhi might very well be the NBA's next winner of a DPOY and MVP in the same season, I think Jordan was the last to do so.

Lifetime achievement award? Kawhi's award to lose? Duncan is the one leading the entire NBA in DRPM, tbh. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM

[bdictjames]

Lifetime achievement award? Kawhi's award to lose? Duncan is the one leading the entire NBA in DRPM, tbh. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM
Although Tim has better per-minute numbers, sometimes, the volume does count. Kawhi does more, simply because he plays more minutes, and the media could see this as a better, more cumulative effect. I love my man Timmy but Kawhi has been the main cornerstone of this team, and his defense has a more offensive impact, if you know what I mean.

[LakerHater]

Has anyone won DPOY & MVP in the same year?

[DAF86]

Although Tim has better per-minute numbers, sometimes, the volume does count. Kawhi does more, simply because he plays more minutes, and the media could see this as a better, more cumulative effect. I love my man Timmy but Kawhi has been the main cornerstone of this team, and his defense has a more offensive impact, if you know what I mean.

Sure but it's not set in stone. It's a pretty close call, tbh.

[bdictjames]

Has anyone won DPOY & MVP in the same year?
MJ did it in 1988. I thought he did it more than once, but apparently, that was the only year. I'm not sure if any other player has done it.

[bdictjames]

Sure but it's not set in stone. It's a pretty close call, tbh.
It is closer than most people think.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Media doesn't want to give back to back DPOY's unless someone is head and shoulders above (which Leonard may be; but doubtful they see it that way). It may as well go to Timmy. He deserves the lifetime achievement award.

Ben Wallace anyone? :lol

[LakerHater]

MJ did it in 1988. I thought he did it more than once, but apparently, that was the only year. I'm not sure if any other player has done it.

Hakeem Olajuwon in '93

[LakerHater]

Ben Wallace anyone? :lol

Hakeem Olajuwon, Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning, Dwight Howard (3peat)

[lefty]

Not Parker

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Hakeem Olajuwon, Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning

those guys were legit, Ben Wallace wasn't. Wallace got most of his blocks from the help side, frequently lost his man, instigated the Malice at the Palace, and got schooled by Shaq and Duncan in two straight Finals series. Massively overrated

[DAF86]

Hakeem Olajuwon, Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning

Rodman. Dwight fucking Howard won it like three years in a row.

[DAF86]

DPOY must be the most repeated award in NBA history, tbh. :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Tim is still the best rim protector, Kawhi on the other hand is the Dion Sanders of the NBA.

[Kawhitstorm]

DPOY must be the most repeated award in NBA history, tbh. :lol

That's b/c reputation & blocks play a large part since the media folks voting don't watch every game. A perimeter defender would absolute have to shutdown star player to get a shine just like Kawhi ripping Curry last season.

[K...]

Duncan would have to shill like Kobe.he plays too few minutes and shares a stage with a surprisingly good Aldridge. Kawhi is a highlight reel and the stats he produces are drool worthy.

It's probably kawhi's award to lose

[Kawhitstorm]

Rodman. Dwight fucking Howard won it like three years in a row.

Dwight led a team which had a bunch of defensively inept players to the Finals. He basically manned the paint all by himself b/c his frontcourt running mates were Rashard Lewis/Hedo:lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

^^ Prime Dwight was one of the 5 best defensive presences of all-time, tbh..

There's virtually no chance that Duncan wins DPOY..he couldn't win it in his prime, there's no way they will give it to him at his current age and minutes/games played IMO..it's a hype-based award, and Kawhi is the most recognized defensive force in the NBA, right now..

[TrainOfThought5]

Poll currently tied at 9-9

[TrainOfThought5]

Duncan is definitely playing elite D, and covers the asses for the whole team, but Leonard has the momentum of the hype train behind him.

[BatManu20]

Way too early in the season for this kind of talk tbh.

[Kawhitstorm]

There's virtually no chance that Duncan wins DPOY..he couldn't win it in his prime, there's no way they will give it to him at his current age and minutes/games played IMO..it's a hype-based award, and Kawhi is the most recognized defensive force in the NBA, right now..

Tim would have been running away w/ it if he had the media slobbering over him like Kirby esp. considering his age.:lol It would still be remarkable if Tim gets All-NBA 1st Team D honors at the age of 40 (would tie none other than Kirby for 1st team selections:lmao).

[spurraider21]

leonard

[dabom]

There is no way Duncan wins this. :lmao

[james evans]

Has anyone won DPOY & MVP in the same year?
jordan in 88 and hakeem in 94. That's well known. But leonard isn't gonna win dpoy 2 years in a row. They got to give it to someone else to hype up. I believe the league is gonna screw him

[Pauleta14]

Leonard.

You have to "reward" playing time imo

[Pauleta14]

There is no way Duncan wins this. :lmao

His PER numbers are off the charts bro, at his age people don't realise how AMAZING it is...

Even if you compare to former HOFers for example it's insane, in 2015 with the atleticism of nowdays BB, the change of rules not helping defenders, etc.

Timmy is underated even by his own fans lmao...

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

I think Tim is slightly better still but Kawhi has a great shot at repeating if the Spurs' defense continues to be #1.

[DAF86]

Dwight led a team which had a bunch of defensively inept players to the Finals. He basically manned the paint all by himself b/c his frontcourt running mates were Rashard Lewis/Hedo:lmao

Dwight was a beast. I put the "fucking" between his names just because, tbh. :lol

[DAF86]

So, what do you say now?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256796&p=8402096#post8402096

[dabom]

We would have lost playing @GSW and @CLE if we had Duncan and Kawhi was out. Kawhi is still the best defensive player in the game. In the future we wouldn't be playing 2 starting PFs.

[spursistan]

Tim and Kawhi are going to split votes and that faggot Raymond is going to win it :depressed..