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ElNono
01-03-2016, 11:32 AM
System player, a product of Curry... He's basically 1st season DeJuan Blair with ACLs...

Has his coach, teammates and himself hyping and begging to get personal accolades, disgusting

He's a fat, undersized Leon Powe, tbh, in the right place at the right time

ceperez
01-03-2016, 11:36 AM
Who is Raymond?

ElNono
01-03-2016, 11:37 AM
That warriors guy

100%duncan
01-03-2016, 11:39 AM
:lol being mvp

ceperez
01-03-2016, 11:40 AM
That warriors guy

Is he a ball boy or something, I don't see him in the roster.

D-league perhaps?

ParadoxEN
01-03-2016, 11:41 AM
This should be about Klay, IMO.

Fireball
01-03-2016, 11:54 AM
Nono still in holidays mood ...

Canyonero
01-03-2016, 11:56 AM
Goat player

Gagnrath
01-03-2016, 11:58 AM
This should be about Klay, IMO.

Nah Clay is a sweet spot up shooter with decent athletic ability. He plays starter quality defense and rebounds well enough for a perimeter player. He's essentially peja stoyochovich, only his shooting is really attention worthy but he's a pretty good character guy who is average for a starter to slightly above average at most everything else.

Kikoluna
01-03-2016, 12:05 PM
That guy green looks like a....

Can't quite point it out....
He's also very arrogant and obnoxious

steeledl
01-03-2016, 12:11 PM
Anybody not on the Spurs sucks tbh.... and the Warriors suck too.. not sure why everyone talks about them

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
01-03-2016, 12:16 PM
You seem salty and this comes off as you being nervous. Not a good look for us

UNT Eagles 2016
01-03-2016, 12:18 PM
we'll beat the whoreiors

Old School 44
01-03-2016, 12:18 PM
System player, a product of Curry... He's basically 1st season DeJuan Blair with ACLs...

Has his coach, teammates and himself hyping and begging to get personal accolades, disgusting

He's a fat, undersized Leon Powe, tbh, in the right place at the right time

But worst of all, he could bump Kawhi from the All-Star game!

Gagnrath
01-03-2016, 12:25 PM
Oh and back to the Draymond Green topic. Right now he is 25 an pretty much at his absolute athletic peak and can probably maintain that for another 2 or 3 years. At 6'7" with his build, he is naturally a tweener forward tending more towards the 4. It's not surprising then with the smaller modern line-up and the declining center position since 2005 that he can matchup against many smaller centers at least at times especially since the back to the basket game has disappeared. He passes well for his position so why not run the offense through him with defenses focused on your teams mvp point guard. Especially if your 2 guard is probably the teams weakest position and the SF functions best as a spot up shooter. He's a good player with probably all star ability. He wouldn't be getting alot of the publicity he is if not for being on a championship team with the league mvp but no one would.

He also has the benefit of playing with another all-star level tweener forward in Andre Igudala that lets his team cause lots of offensive mismatches and green until recently was the guy you put the weakest defender on in pick your poison choices between Klay, AI2 and Green.

Raven
01-03-2016, 12:26 PM
it's true, he's massively overrated.

bic50
01-03-2016, 12:35 PM
I don't know about that. He seems pretty good.

ParadoxEN
01-03-2016, 12:39 PM
Nah Clay is a sweet spot up shooter with decent athletic ability. He plays starter quality defense and rebounds well enough for a perimeter player. He's essentially peja stoyochovich, only his shooting is really attention worthy but he's a pretty good character guy who is average for a starter to slightly above average at most everything else.

"Decent", "well enough", "Peja", "average" ...

ceperez
01-03-2016, 12:41 PM
I don't know about that. He seems pretty good.

He's pretty good and I would have preferred him over the not-so-engaged LMA that the Spurs signed.

Mel_13
01-03-2016, 12:44 PM
He's pretty good and I would have preferred him over the not-so-engaged LMA that the Spurs signed.

Restricted free agent. Never was a viable target.

TheGreatYacht
01-03-2016, 12:47 PM
ElNono, it's all fun and games until Timvp and Kori open up registration again and hundreds of Gay Area Worrier fans come at your head

Gagnrath
01-03-2016, 12:54 PM
"Decent", "well enough", "Peja", "average" ...

Let's do prime Tony Parker when he was in the running for mvp. He's a great driving slasher, with good ball handling skills. A decent passer for a point guard, who shots outside just well enough for the defense to honor the shot. He has a tendency to loaf on man to man defense, and is a below average team and help defender for his position. His off ball movement is at times suspect and he only tries on the boards in critical moments. His character and dedication to the team is questionable. He's a early to mid career Jason Kidd without the work ethic/competitive spirit and with a bit less passing ability.

You take about ˝ the adjectives in a critique out of context and parse yhem and it won't ever sound good.

Cry Havoc
01-03-2016, 12:55 PM
:tu Nicely done ElNono. :lol

widowmaker
01-03-2016, 01:02 PM
That's the question i keep asking when someone brings up some guy named kobe. Never heard of him.

still.focused
01-03-2016, 01:02 PM
Overrated? Probably
Ballin his MF ass off? Definitely

ElNono
01-03-2016, 01:08 PM
:cry gimme my DPOY :cry

ElNono
01-03-2016, 01:09 PM
ElNono, it's all fun and games until Timvp and Kori open up registration again and hundreds of Gay Area Worrier fans come at your head

You mean former Lakerfan? crofl

ElNono
01-03-2016, 01:13 PM
You seem salty and this comes off as you being nervous. Not a good look for us

Curry is historically good, tbh... He definitely makes me nervous... especially if he starts getting the Harden/KD ref treatment...

look_at_g_shred
01-03-2016, 01:16 PM
:cry gimme my DPOY :cry
My mom says I deserve it so it must be true :cry

spurraider21
01-03-2016, 01:43 PM
ElNono's new year resolution was to step up his troll game tbh

TheDoctor
01-03-2016, 02:06 PM
Leader of that legion of cry babies tbh. Overrated as fuck, a downgraded Boris Diaw tbh.

Vic Petro
01-03-2016, 02:14 PM
8/10

SAGirl
01-03-2016, 02:15 PM
ElNono's new year resolution was to step up his troll game tbh

:downspin: :lol

sexinthatsx
01-03-2016, 02:26 PM
Raymond Green is a huge douchebag. I can't wait to see the whole Warriors team cry when they rely oh him to play Center when it matters during the playoffs and they lose.

spurs10
01-03-2016, 02:26 PM
He seems to be one of those gloating guys that likes to laugh at others when he beats them.

sexinthatsx
01-03-2016, 02:27 PM
Oh and I can picture Demarcus Cousins getting into a fight with Draymond Green during a game and punking his ass. Book it.

sexinthatsx
01-03-2016, 02:31 PM
Look at how he makes the layup over Kyrie and when Kyrie falls down, he screams next to his ear. Completely classless piece of filth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx2_AZ8qnCk

Raven
01-03-2016, 02:39 PM
Look at how he makes the layup over Kyrie and when Kyrie falls down, he screams next to his ear. Completely classless piece of filth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx2_AZ8qnCk

irving flopped big time there

Agloco
01-03-2016, 02:39 PM
System player, a product of Curry... He's basically 1st season DeJuan Blair with ACLs...

Has his coach, teammates and himself hyping and begging to get personal accolades, disgusting

He's a fat, undersized Leon Powe, tbh, in the right place at the right time

NoNo marching into the flames of hell with this one. :lol

sexinthatsx
01-03-2016, 02:44 PM
irving flopped big time there

He was trying to get the charge, I don't see that as a flop. But that's besides the point.

Obstructed_View
01-03-2016, 02:47 PM
The stupid flows strong in this thread.

apalisoc_9
01-03-2016, 02:49 PM
Draymond is a top 15 player in this league. I said it before the start of the season but mainstream vanilla fans are stupid.

sexinthatsx
01-03-2016, 02:50 PM
The stupid flows strong in this thread.

Let us trollers troll in peace please :toast

ElNono
01-03-2016, 03:02 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251998&p=8170081&viewfull=1#post8170081

Strategic
01-03-2016, 03:02 PM
He does look a little like DB.

Mel_13
01-03-2016, 03:05 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251998&p=8170081&viewfull=1#post8170081

:lmao

apalisoc_9
01-03-2016, 03:19 PM
Draymond is a super role player though. I dont understand how being a super role player diminishes anyones value tbh.

Like I said entering this season after their championship last year I claimed he was a top 15 player in this league.. But vanilla fans were to caught up with stats.

FlAVaK
01-03-2016, 03:26 PM
Who is Raymond?

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23100000/Raymond-everybody-loves-raymond-23125974-1024-768.png

sexinthatsx
01-03-2016, 03:28 PM
Draymond is a super role player though. I dont understand how being a super role player diminishes anyones value tbh.

Like I said entering this season after their championship last year I claimed he was a top 15 player in this league.. But vanilla fans were to caught up with stats.

Now that ElNono shed some light on the thread, I think you're just digging yourself into a deeper hole by posting more lol

ElNono
01-03-2016, 03:32 PM
FWIW thread has nothing to do with that... We're just 3 weeks away from playing our biggest foe in the west, it's time to get some hating going...

ElNono
01-03-2016, 03:33 PM
And 'douchebag Curry chewing on his mouthguard' has been done to death IMO

SAGirl
01-03-2016, 03:48 PM
They didn't really get into the level they got until Draymond started whooping ass, and getting ppl fired up over there. I think he's more their leader than Curry is. When he was out of sorts in the Finals, D.Lee had to come in and make some plays to wake him up. If you break Draymond, you break them, but Draymond is a tough cookie.

Lasharkus will have to rise to the occassion. Really psyched TBH.
Edit: so will Diaw.
I think we'll be fine.

Gagnrath
01-03-2016, 03:51 PM
Draymond is a super role player though. I dont understand how being a super role player diminishes anyones value tbh.

Like I said entering this season after their championship last year I claimed he was a top 15 player in this league.. But vanilla fans were to caught up with stats.

He's not top 15 he's debatable top 25 somehwere between 19 and 28. He does have a strong competitive spirit which helps lots.

Why the heck am I trying to talk basketball sense with apasolic in a borderline troll thread? Oh yeah boring Sunday afternoon.

Mikeanaro
01-03-2016, 05:38 PM
Its not just about him being a fat unathletic POS, there is also the issue with his loudmouth, just after winning that shitty championship served in a silver plate dude started to behave like a mini Rodman or a mini Artest who the fuck is him anyway?
The same goes to Clay ¨Play-doh¨ Thompson now he thinks he´s unguardable best SG ever and all that shit.
At the end of the day if smooth chocolate is not there the Warriors are just a 3 pointers team with little else to offer.

Spurs9
01-03-2016, 05:41 PM
He's a fat, undersized Leon Powe, tbh, in the right place at the right time

:lol tbh

BanditHiro
01-03-2016, 06:38 PM
hoping he suffers a quadriplegic inducing injury.

timtonymanu
01-03-2016, 06:40 PM
He's pretty good but Diaw will destroy him, tbh.

txstr1986
01-03-2016, 06:43 PM
I thought everybody loves Raymond?

YGWHI
01-03-2016, 07:08 PM
He's pretty good but Diaw will destroy him, tbh.

:bobo

YGWHI
01-03-2016, 07:10 PM
:cry gimme my DPOY :cry

My coach doing campaign for me :cry...my mom says on twitter I'm the real DPOY...:cry

Seventyniner
01-03-2016, 07:44 PM
I thought everybody loves Raymond?

Damn I should have thought of that line. Well played, sir.

Spurs_619
01-03-2016, 07:50 PM
They were getting destroyed by the nuggets at home once Curry went out. Thompson and Green look like ass without Curry on the floor.

TD 21
01-03-2016, 08:05 PM
Draymond is a super role player though. I dont understand how being a super role player diminishes anyones value tbh.

Like I said entering this season after their championship last year I claimed he was a top 15 player in this league.. But vanilla fans were to caught up with stats.

He is, but it does. You can't be a truly elite player if you're nothing more than a complimentary player on offense. Even a guy like prime Howard, though not good enough to be the focal point for a championship caliber team, was a focal point on offense.

Green is not that type of player, no matter the team. Also, his biggest offensive strength, secondary play making, wouldn't matter nearly as much if he didn't play with a player who commands more attention above the three-point line than any player in history, which leads to plenty of 4-on-3's.

He's clearly overrated and is neck and neck with Westbrook as the most unlikable player in the league. There's nothing worse than a shameless, self promoter and it's even worse when it's someone who's not even an all-time great.

spurs10
01-03-2016, 08:06 PM
FWIW thread has nothing to do with that... We're just 3 weeks away from playing our biggest foe in the west, it's time to get some hating going... The hate is building!!! Thank you EN!! :ihit
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...........Go Spurs! :flag:

Obstructed_View
01-03-2016, 08:57 PM
Who is Raymond?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs04sxMyvRE

Obstructed_View
01-03-2016, 09:37 PM
I guess it's a testament to optimism that the guys starting threads like these aren't noticing that people actually think they're this stupid.

SpurPadre
01-03-2016, 09:41 PM
Awhi Leonard is awesome, though.

GSH
01-03-2016, 09:52 PM
I guess it's a testament to optimism that the guys starting threads like these aren't noticing that people actually think they're this stupid.

;)

LoneStarState'sPride
01-03-2016, 09:57 PM
FWIW thread has nothing to do with that... We're just 3 weeks away from playing our biggest foe in the west, it's time to get some hating going...

I like Kerr, I like Curry, I like the fire with which GSW competes....guess I don't really hate them (on the other hand, I loathe the clippers).

That said, I want to beat them and break their spirits in the postseason.

emanueldavidginobili
01-03-2016, 10:16 PM
overrated lol, I hate him but his 15ppg 9.3 reb 7.4 assist 1.4 steals and 1.4 blocks stat line with six triple doubles is pretty amazing. Sure having Curry and Thompson helps out a lot but the kid is a very good player at 25 years old tbh

Wu36
01-03-2016, 10:22 PM
Generic Diaw.

random21
01-03-2016, 10:53 PM
Generic Diaw.

Agreed

lilbthebasedgod
01-04-2016, 12:38 AM
One of the best players in the league and only getting better. Would love to have him.

Splits
01-04-2016, 12:44 AM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251998&p=8170081&viewfull=1#post8170081

Holy shit :lmao

EN goin' deeeep

Clipper Nation
01-04-2016, 12:48 AM
Drayflop Green is a mental faggot who disappeared in the playoffs when shit got real.

Kawhitstorm
01-04-2016, 01:19 AM
Supposedly he hates playing against Boris b/c he can't handle his fat ass according to Zach Lowe although Boris hasn't played well against the Warriors :lol (mentioned it in a recent podcast that he had Ethan Strauss as a guest)

sexinthatsx
01-04-2016, 01:44 AM
A poor man's Kyle Anderson tbh.

Silver&Black
01-04-2016, 01:52 AM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251998&p=8170081&viewfull=1#post8170081

:wow

gospursgojas
01-04-2016, 01:53 AM
Serious questions tho...

Does he ever close his mouth, tbh?

gospursgojas
01-04-2016, 02:00 AM
I like Kerr, I like Curry, I like the fire with which GSW competes....guess I don't really hate them (on the other hand, I loathe the clippers).

That said, I want to beat them and break their spirits in the postseason.

They were likeable last year, now they are cocky and annoying. They are the new regular season champ Mavs. Celebrate reg season wins against scrub teams like they won a championship.

G-Dawgg
01-04-2016, 03:02 AM
As versatile of a defender he is, he is still and undersized tweener forward.. Aldridge will go apeshit on him in a 7 game series...

TheBestEver
01-04-2016, 03:35 AM
As versatile of a defender he is, he is still and undersized tweener forward.. Aldridge will go apeshit on him in a 7 game series...

:rollin:rollin:rollin

Did u watch Aldridge in the playoffs against Memphis? 33% shooting :rollin:rollin:rollin

but he's going to go apeshit on the top defensive player in the NBA:rollin

G-Dawgg
01-04-2016, 03:41 AM
:rollin:rollin:rollin

Did u watch Aldridge in the playoffs against Memphis? 33% shooting :rollin:rollin:rollin

but he's going to go apeshit on the top defensive player in the NBA:rollin
Did you see Aldrige average like 40 points against Dwight Howard in the playoffs 2 years ago? Draymond Green is too tiny to matchup with Aldridge defensively. San Antonio's frontcourt has always been too big for Draymond Green, even when we still had Splitter. He's never had any really overly exceptional games against us defensively. He'll get victimized against the Spurs' massive frontline... Draymond Green is the same height and weight as Kawhi Leonard which is too small to match up with the likes of Tim, Aldrige, West and Boban in the post in a 7 game series...he'll get abused. The Spurs are built to beat Golden State.
Aldridge 33% VS Memphis? First off, he was playing with torn ligaments in his thumb. Also, the last time I checked Marc Gasol is 7'1 and Draymond Green is only 6'7.. Also, if you forgot Marc Gasol was also a former defensive player of the year. 6'7, 230lb Draymond Green will not be able to handle 6'11, 265lb Aldridge in the post like Gasol... Even if he's a defensive player of the year candidate, that is a size mismatch that the Spurs can expose. That's like Kawhi Leonard trying to defend the post against Cousins or Drummond. -Nice try

spurs10
01-04-2016, 04:40 AM
Serious questions tho...

Does he ever close his mouth, tbh? No..


They were likeable last year, now they are cocky and annoying. They are the new regular season champ Mavs. Celebrate reg season wins against scrub teams like they won a championship. Yes...

r0drig0lac
01-04-2016, 05:21 AM
One of the best players in the league and only getting better.

this

weeks
01-04-2016, 07:38 AM
:cry gimme my DPOY :cry yeah but he wasn't salty Leonard won it iirc .Said he was the best defender in the nba

DJR210
01-04-2016, 08:46 AM
Poor man's Malik Rose IMO

Leonardpart6
01-04-2016, 02:12 PM
He is a monster.

dabom
01-04-2016, 02:33 PM
yeah but he wasn't salty Leonard won it iirc .Said he was the best defender in the nba

That's cause Kawhi took his cookies. :lmao

Mr Bones
01-04-2016, 02:57 PM
The stupid flows strong in this thread.

weeks
01-04-2016, 08:35 PM
That's cause Kawhi took his cookies. :lmao
they dont' talk shit about the spurs much, so i can't really muster up a lot of hate for em

GSH
01-04-2016, 10:34 PM
FWIW thread has nothing to do with that... We're just 3 weeks away from playing our biggest foe in the west, it's time to get some hating going...


Need to get a copy of your OP up on a Warriors forum, and see if we can get this thing some national attention. This is the kind of thing that could blow up before they finally meet.

Clipper Nation
01-05-2016, 12:18 AM
They were likeable last year

They were never likeable. Not under Mark Jackass, not last year, not now. They've always been cocky and annoying, people are just finally noticing it now instead of buying the media's slurp-job on them.

midnightpulp
01-05-2016, 12:21 AM
They were never likeable. Not under Mark Jackass, not last year, not now. They've always been cocky and annoying, people are just finally noticing it now instead of buying the media's slurp-job on them.

CN

Stevie Johnson
01-05-2016, 12:32 AM
They were never likeable. Not under Mark Jackass, not last year, not now. They've always been cocky and annoying, people are just finally noticing it now instead of buying the media's slurp-job on them.
You are so jealous and negative. Are you still mad that your team could not get the job done against the Rockets?

spursistan
01-05-2016, 01:31 AM
684228418385350656

Bobo should feast on this nigga, tbh..Getting clowned by Frank Kamisnky :lol..

TheDoctor
01-05-2016, 01:35 AM
Terry Cummings 1.5 tbh.

Hoops Czar
01-05-2016, 01:49 AM
684228418385350656

Bobo should feast on this nigga, tbh..Getting clowned by Frank Kamisnky :lol..

:lol Apparently, you've never seen Sanny Green play defense if you're going to call out Draymond,

BatManu20
01-05-2016, 02:40 AM
684267570413830144

spurraider21
01-05-2016, 02:50 AM
the warriors need to trade or bench him

he doesn't fit

Kawhitstorm
01-05-2016, 03:06 AM
A bigger version of Lance Stephenson w/ the Pacers.:wakeup

G-Dawgg
01-05-2016, 05:29 PM
Draymond Green is overrated. He may be getting some excellent numbers but he's a classic example of a player who is a product of his system. Just like Lance Stephenson when he was on the Pacers. It can't be that hard for anybody to rack up assists when you're throwing the ball to Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson.. In my opinion I don't think he would do as well on a different team. I don't think anybody seriously thinks he's in the same class as players like Paul George, James Harden, or Anthony Davis.. That seems ridiculous. If I was making a team from scratch, I wouldn't even take him before Cousins or Aldridge...

Fat Hands
01-05-2016, 05:59 PM
the warriors need to trade or bench him

he doesn't fit

this!!!1

Kool Bob Love
01-05-2016, 06:07 PM
Thread back fire. OP didn't learn in 2013.

spursistan
01-05-2016, 06:50 PM
684287278391406593

Dubs statkeepers :lmao ..not surprised, happened last season with Westbrook and plenty of folks mentioned it twitter..these fuckers get caught in the "triple double story" which results in home cooking phantom assists to whoever is stat-whoring in the game..

SouthernFried
01-05-2016, 07:26 PM
I dunno who Raymond Green is. But, Draymond is probably more under-rated than overrated.

ElNono
01-05-2016, 07:30 PM
Draymond Green is overrated. He may be getting some excellent numbers but he's a classic example of a player who is a product of his system. Just like Lance Stephenson when he was on the Pacers. It can't be that hard for anybody to rack up assists when you're throwing the ball to Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson.. In my opinion I don't think he would do as well on a different team. I don't think anybody seriously thinks he's in the same class as players like Paul George, James Harden, or Anthony Davis.. That seems ridiculous. If I was making a team from scratch, I wouldn't even take him before Cousins or Aldridge...

boom

Mikeanaro
01-05-2016, 07:31 PM
I dunno who Raymond Green is. But, Draymond is probably more under-rated than overrated.
Tell us more.

spurraider21
01-05-2016, 08:20 PM
boom
Didn't he have a monster game with curry out?

gospursgojas
01-05-2016, 08:30 PM
You can play the System Player card with a bunch of spurs players too tho.

ElNono
01-05-2016, 08:52 PM
Didn't he have a monster game with curry out?

No idea, tbh... I only watched like 2 Warriors games this season

Nathan89
01-05-2016, 10:43 PM
Webber just declared him the best pf in the west. Too bad the Clipper didn't have the "best" pf in the west last year. Spurs would've easily beat them.

AFMadison
01-06-2016, 11:15 AM
Draymond is a super role player though. I dont understand how being a super role player diminishes anyones value tbh.

Like I said entering this season after their championship last year I claimed he was a top 15 player in this league.. But vanilla fans were to caught up with stats.
Link?

Mikeanaro
01-06-2016, 02:47 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/1/6/10721764/draymond-green-is-a-traveling-machine

resistanze
01-06-2016, 03:06 PM
No idea, tbh... I only watched like 2 Warriors games this season

:lol

DrunkTXLabrat
01-06-2016, 03:11 PM
somebody bump this thread when Raymond has lame crying like Obama, after the Warriors/Spurs series... that is, if the Spurs don't drop to OKC or Minny first.

DrunkTXLabrat
01-06-2016, 03:13 PM
somebody bump this thread when Raymond has lame crying like Obama, after the Warriors/Spurs series... that is, if the Spurs don't drop to OKC or Minny first.

"the Warriors need to background check their players, all our spurs are high class citizens."

Nathan89
01-06-2016, 07:34 PM
Didn't he have a monster game with curry out?

Vs the Rockets. The Rockets were allowing back-door cuts all night long.

BatManu20
01-09-2016, 12:38 AM
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Nathan89
01-09-2016, 12:43 AM
Didn't watch the game but Green has the most inflated assist numbers of all time. Best off ball players that do 90% of the work and 4 on 3 action because he plays with the best shooter ever.

One great part about his game though is his ability to get a rebound and push it up court quickly.

Hoops Czar
01-09-2016, 12:48 AM
Draymond Green is overrated. He may be getting some excellent numbers but he's a classic example of a player who is a product of his system. Just like Lance Stephenson when he was on the Pacers. It can't be that hard for anybody to rack up assists when you're throwing the ball to Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson.. In my opinion I don't think he would do as well on a different team. I don't think anybody seriously thinks he's in the same class as players like Paul George, James Harden, or Anthony Davis.. That seems ridiculous. If I was making a team from scratch, I wouldn't even take him before Cousins or Aldridge...

You misspelled Danny Green.

SAGirl
01-09-2016, 12:53 AM
A triple double tonight. The 8th of the season. If we had our PF being a triple double threat nightly we'd be a different team. Not that I think he's a good fit for us, but his talent and his fit with his team can't be denied.

i don't like his personality at all, but he has a competitive spirit that reminds me of legends like Manu. He is that competitive.

ElNono
01-09-2016, 01:01 AM
A triple double tonight. The 8th of the season. If we had our PF being a triple double threat nightly we'd be a different team. Not that I think he's a good fit for us, but his talent and his fit with his team can't be denied.

i don't like his personality at all, but he has a competitive spirit that reminds me of legends like Manu. He is that competitive.

Our PF isn't a triple double threat nightly because Pop trots out the scrubs when we're up 20 instead of letting the main guys stat pad to hell and back...

I watched some of that Dubs-Portland game, and they had all the starters out there up 20+ in the 2nd quarter...

Godbama
01-09-2016, 01:04 AM
You seem salty and this comes off as you being nervous. Not a good look for us

ElNono
01-09-2016, 01:06 AM
Raymond plays 33 mins tonight, game was over midway through the 2nd quarter...

Hope Pop was taking notes, that's how you make All Stars...

dabom
01-09-2016, 01:09 AM
GSW are known stat padders. Disgusting really. :lol

YGWHI
01-09-2016, 01:12 AM
If LMA/Boris had some problems with Porzingins/Ryan Anderson that doesn't mean Raymond is a real issue for them.

YGWHI
01-09-2016, 01:16 AM
I should have accepted cjw's bet after Utah game...;)

SAGirl
01-09-2016, 01:24 AM
Our PF isn't a triple double threat nightly because Pop trots out the scrubs when we're up 20 instead of letting the main guys stat pad to hell and back...

I watched some of that Dubs-Portland game, and they had all the starters out there up 20+ in the 2nd quarter...
I see your point.
Statpadding hah?
I guess they don't care about anything else.

I do think Kawhi/LMA have not been afforded the opportunity to statpad this season bc of the young players Pop is developing. We don't know about Timmy/Manu. Next season Boban/Kyle may really need to be counted on and it's better to get them a headstart, + already get them working on weak areas of their games they find in video footage.

Pop always with the long term view.

:pop::cheer

It is going to be jarring when the vets hang them up no matter what you do, and how you prepare, but it will be worse if you don't prepare.

spurraider21
01-09-2016, 01:33 AM
Our PF isn't a triple double threat nightly because Pop trots out the scrubs when we're up 20 instead of letting the main guys stat pad to hell and back...

I watched some of that Dubs-Portland game, and they had all the starters out there up 20+ in the 2nd quarter...
Which of our PF's would be a nightly 3x2 threat even if he got 40 mpg?

SAGirl
01-09-2016, 01:39 AM
Wow ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) though.
Just looked at the box score of tonight's game and the GSW bench was a negative. All of them pretty much. That meant they were getting outscored by the Blazers, so they had to play their main guys. The game was never close once Portland got off to a slow start, and they could not get stops on GSW, but they were also in a kind of shootout of their own scoring 31/35 in the 2nd and 3r Q, trying to make their runs and outscored the GSW bench.
The 4th Q was a slower scoring affair. I guess the game was never in doubt, but that GSW bench... :lol

Kawhitstorm
01-09-2016, 01:49 AM
Wow ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) though.
Just looked at the box score of tonight's game and the GSW bench was a negative. All of them pretty much. That meant they were getting outscored by the Blazers, so they had to play their main guys. The game was never close once Portland got off to a slow start, and they could not get stops on GSW, but they were also in a kind of shootout of their own scoring 31/35 in the 2nd and 3r Q, trying to make their runs and outscored the GSW bench.
The 4th Q was a slower scoring affair. I guess the game was never in doubt, but that GSW bench... :lol

Klay Thompson feasts on mediocre defenses so most of those games are over by the 2nd quarters since they can make enough shots even when the other team is making runs. Their issue is that Klay looks no better than Marco against legit defenses.

midnightpulp
01-09-2016, 06:21 AM
I think Nono is being ironic.

Raymond is an incredible faggot and one of the most annoying players in the league personality-wise, but he's the real deal and proof that you can become a great player through hard work, studying the game (Raymond does have a sky high basketball IQ), and knowing your role within a system. Raymond doesn't posses any freaky athletic or skill set gifts, but he maximizes everything he does have.

Kawhi is cut from that same mold without the faggotry.

DenialTwist
01-09-2016, 06:24 AM
Brandon Jennings said on twitter that Draymond should start over Blake Griffin. He also reiterated that Klay and Draymond should start in the All Star game. So basically, 3 Warriors starters.

ElNono
01-09-2016, 10:05 AM
I think Nono is being ironic.

Raymond is an incredible faggot and one of the most annoying players in the league personality-wise, but he's the real deal and proof that you can become a great player through hard work, studying the game (Raymond does have a sky high basketball IQ), and knowing your role within a system. Raymond doesn't posses any freaky athletic or skill set gifts, but he maximizes everything he does have.

Kawhi is cut from that same mold without the faggotry.

I'm trying to get Spurfan to hate on non-Spur-player... it doesn't appear to be working, I have to admit, tbh...

ElNono
01-09-2016, 10:06 AM
Which of our PF's would be a nightly 3x2 threat even if he got 40 mpg?

Well, Boris ofcourse...

spursistan
01-09-2016, 12:16 PM
Our PF isn't a triple double threat nightly because Pop trots out the scrubs when we're up 20 instead of letting the main guys stat pad to hell and back...

I watched some of that Dubs-Portland game, and they had all the starters out there up 20+ in the 2nd quarter...
He (+ they) is stat-whoring AF...

685689980673339392

bic50
01-09-2016, 12:20 PM
I should have accepted cjw's bet after Utah game...;)

It seems you were right after all.

spurraider21
01-09-2016, 01:30 PM
Well, Boris ofcourse...
Even per 36 he averages less than 5 apg

And then raymond is a top 2-3 defensive player to boot

Kawhitstorm
01-09-2016, 01:30 PM
Brandon Jennings said on twitter that Draymond should start over Blake Griffin. He also reiterated that Klay and Draymond should start in the All Star game. So basically, 3 Warriors starters.

Brandon Jennings:lmao

SAGirl
01-09-2016, 03:01 PM
I'm trying to get Spurfan to hate on non-Spur-player... it doesn't appear to be working, I have to admit, tbh...
:lol

Don't know you know by know spurfan only hates on its own players?

ElNono
01-09-2016, 05:20 PM
Even per 36 he averages less than 5 apg

And then raymond is a top 2-3 defensive player to boot

You have to have the team help him get his numbers, tbh.... check out that tweet above... that's teamwork...

spurraider21
01-09-2016, 05:27 PM
You have to have the team help him get his numbers, tbh.... check out that tweet above... that's teamwork...
Yeah when he's close to 10 they go an extra mile, but to suggest they do that all game to benefit him at the expense of the team is pretty silly. The guy is good.

Nathan89
01-09-2016, 05:28 PM
Even per 36 he averages less than 5 apg

And then raymond is a top 2-3 defensive player to boot

Boris could put up assist numbers like Draymond on the Warriors.

ElNono
01-09-2016, 05:44 PM
Yeah when he's close to 10 they go an extra mile, but to suggest they do that all game to benefit him at the expense of the team is pretty silly. The guy is good.

Philo

Drachen
01-09-2016, 05:51 PM
Oh yeah, I know Raymond Green. He is overrated. His insurance selling skills are nowhere near those of Cliff Paul.

Kawhitstorm
01-09-2016, 05:58 PM
Boris could put up assist numbers like Draymond on the Warriors.

He basically averages the same amount of assists as 2011-12 Manu per 100 possessions & Manu didn't try to pad his stats nor did he play w/ two elite shooters (Gary Neal:lol).

Diaw basically was able to approximate Draymond in 2005-06 but he was the secondary playmaker behind Nash meanwhile Draymond basically gets to stand at the top of key & find shooters or cutters. It's not like he's breaking down defenses & kicking it out nor drawing double teams.:lol

spurraider21
01-09-2016, 06:01 PM
Draymond is similar offensively to suns diaw but yes another level defensively.

Kawhitstorm
01-09-2016, 06:04 PM
Draymond is similar offensively to suns diaw but yes another level defensively.

You don't need to double Draymond in the post as long as he's being guarded by someone his own size.

spurraider21
01-09-2016, 06:07 PM
You don't need to double Draymond in the post as long as he's being guarded by someone his own size.
I said similar not identical. And suns diaw wasn't as good in the post as spurs diaw

ElNono
01-09-2016, 06:10 PM
I said similar not identical. And suns diaw wasn't as good in the post as spurs diaw

Don't know about that. Postups were just a rarity with run and gun + amare p&r...

spurraider21
01-09-2016, 06:52 PM
Don't know about that. Postups were just a rarity with run and gun + amare p&r...
he didnt have the girth tbh, and he puts that hip to good use down low :lol

YGWHI
01-09-2016, 07:41 PM
Brandon Jennings said on twitter that Draymond should start over Blake Griffin. He also reiterated that Klay and Draymond should start in the All Star game. So basically, 3 Warriors starters.

Crazy guy...Last year, he was forced to delete his Twitter account after the "corny-Meek" issue :lol

Can't wait to play him/Detroit on Tuesday :ihit

Kawhitstorm
01-09-2016, 07:41 PM
I said similar not identical. And suns diaw wasn't as good in the post as spurs diaw

When Diaw's main offensive weapon is his post up, it's an IMPORTATANT distinction. Diaw didn't postup much w/ he Suns b/c D'Antoni banned his players from posting up. Amare was actually a pretty good postup player, he just never got to use it w/ the Suns but he was a beast during his 1st season w/ the Knicks.

spursistan
01-13-2016, 11:47 PM
Real talk..Curry/Raymond are the new Durant/Westbrook in being a two man show team..your team can literally turn from title contender to first round fodder (or even miss the playoffs) if you lose one of them..heck the Warriors lost Curry for a half game and the same freaking Nuggets erased a 20 point deficit and could have won it in OT last time in Oracle..

ElNono
01-13-2016, 11:50 PM
I only caught the 4th quarter of this game, and the dubs could've easily won if Darrel Arthur wasn't hitting jumpers like it was 2011, tbh... Heck, Jameer Nelson didn't know what else to do to lose the game

Horry Hipcheck
01-13-2016, 11:52 PM
Real talk..Curry/Raymond are the new Durant/Westbrook in being a two man show team..your team can literally turn from title contender to first round fodder (or even miss the playoffs) if you lose one of them..heck the Warriors lost Curry for a half game and the same freaking Nuggets erased a 20 point deficit and could have won it in OT last time in Oracle..

Meanwhile the Spurs come at you like

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/themishkin/GIFs/airplane-slap_o_GIFSoupcom_.gif

spursistan
01-31-2016, 07:04 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaD4cr8VAAAna9p.jpg

Raymond says they were close to losing to Sixers because he was chasing Triple Doubles :lmao..Kerr: "better get it in 3rd quarter" :lmao

r0drig0lac
01-31-2016, 07:38 PM
gsw just having fun with the rest of the league

HarlemHeat37
01-31-2016, 08:07 PM
He's the 2nd best PF in the NBA behind Blake Griffin, tbh..pretty crazy for a 2nd round draft pick that couldn't get minutes over David Lee:lol

Have to respect the work he has put in..

HarlemHeat37
01-31-2016, 10:13 PM
9-9 from the field and a triple-double:wow

Kawhitstorm
01-31-2016, 10:47 PM
Raymond says they were close to losing to Sixers because he was chasing Triple Doubles :lmao..Kerr: "better get it in 3rd quarter" :lmao

Lance Stephenson 2.0:lmao

Kawhitstorm
01-31-2016, 10:47 PM
9-9 from the field and a triple-double:wow

Shooting 25% against Boris:wakeup

Spurs_619
01-31-2016, 10:56 PM
Raymond is miles ahead of Aldridge. Lma has not even been a top 5 pf this year.

james evans
02-01-2016, 12:16 AM
Raymond is miles ahead of Aldridge. Lma has not even been a top 5 pf this year.
no. Green is just playing with players that can hit open jump shots. When you play the spurs, there is no threat of 3 pointers outside of Leonard since green and mills can't consistently hit shit all season.

HarlemHeat37
02-01-2016, 12:21 AM
no. Green is just playing with players that can hit open jump shots. When you play the spurs, there is no threat of 3 pointers outside of Leonard since green and mills can't consistently hit shit all season.

Draymond creates open shots for his teammates, while Aldridge is an inefficient, black hole in the post, tbh..

Danny Green shot 49% from 3 in January and Kawhi shot 48% from 3 in January, yet Aldridge had the same struggles, and they just don't get enough looks running the offense through him..if the Spurs had Draymond, well, I don't even have to finish my thought:lol

houston spurs fan
02-01-2016, 12:34 AM
Raymond is miles ahead of Aldridge. Lma has not even been a top 5 pf this year.
Much rather have LMA. Draymond is a system player. LMA is only half way in to a season with a new team and needs time...

ElNono
02-01-2016, 12:41 AM
Look, I watched like 4 games now from these guys, and it's all Curry and a system that fits them like a glove. They're so good, they can afford to have stat-padders like this guy even openly admitting to it, and still pull off the wins...

I mean, I know what Harlem is saying about Raymond vs LMA, but would you be shocked if Marreese Speights has a couple triple-doubles too this season? I wouldn't blink an eye. When you have videogame Curry playing like that, the sky is the limit. I'm counting and basically this dude already rescued Barbosa, Livingston, Iggy and Bogut careers. Guys they were either supremely talented but losers, or looked way past their peak.

I find it kinda ridiculous that when we're basically entering the dawn of the Lebron era, and maybe you start discussing where he ranks top 5 all time, Curry in two years is basically giving him a run for his money. Guys like Nash, Kidd, Chris Paul, Lillard, Westbrook, they all look overrated as fuck next to this kid. It also kinda gives you mixed feelings, IMO, because he's still seemingly getting better and you wonder how high can he really go, while at the same time you already get the idea that unless he ruptures both his achilles it's going to be hell to beat him.

SAGirl
02-01-2016, 02:07 AM
Look, I watched like 4 games now from these guys, and it's all Curry and a system that fits them like a glove. They're so good, they can afford to have stat-padders like this guy even openly admitting to it, and still pull off the wins...

I mean, I know what Harlem is saying about Raymond vs LMA, but would you be shocked if Marreese Speights has a couple triple-doubles too this season? I wouldn't blink an eye. When you have videogame Curry playing like that, the sky is the limit. I'm counting and basically this dude already rescued Barbosa, Livingston, Iggy and Bogut careers. Guys they were either supremely talented but losers, or looked way past their peak.

I find it kinda ridiculous that when we're basically entering the dawn of the Lebron era, and maybe you start discussing where he ranks top 5 all time, Curry in two years is basically giving him a run for his money. Guys like Nash, Kidd, Chris Paul, Lillard, Westbrook, they all look overrated as fuck next to this kid. It also kinda gives you mixed feelings, IMO, because he's still seemingly getting better and you wonder how high can he really go, while at the same time you already get the idea that unless he ruptures both his achilles it's going to be hell to beat him.

And it is his time. It is going to take a whole team effort and a special team to beat them and I think we don't have it this season, and maybe not either next year. I will still enjoy the season bc it is very special and after 5, nothing will sour me teamwise for a long time. But I think our team is a bit in flux and has a bit of an identity crisis. The young players (and I mean LMA/Kawhi, not my usual pet peeves, you know who they are) have not grabbed this team for themselves. There is still too much reliance on vets, who lets face it are legendary themselves and as long as you have them they are positives most nights, but Tony is a detriment at times, and so is Manu. They should defer more and don't necessarily. The one to give up the most of his role has really been Tim, is it in any way surprising? I feel like this team doesn't know what it wants to be and that is just the SL offense. And maybe some guys are mixed in together for the sake of it that are not good fits with each other.

Then the bench, it is still the traditional bench, revolving around the 3, but Patty has been chuckfest mode and off, has been terrible on D, Manu started well but he mentally still has moments when he wants to be 26 and he's not, and Diaw is solid, but he's also struggled specially defensively. He has very good fundamentals, but I do think his weight/age has slowed him. They are terrific most nights, but not against the elite. Already Simms has rescued a few games and Anderson is developing and making a case for himself. We won't need much from them this year we all thought, but as it turns out we might need more from them this season.

And that is why I think we won't be able to defeat a team that hot. Maybe the guys come together during the Rodeo Road trip and iron out their wrinkles. But the younger guys need to carry more of a burden, if they do not, we are not winning.

Ice009
02-01-2016, 05:27 AM
Draymond creates open shots for his teammates, while Aldridge is an inefficient, black hole in the post, tbh..

Danny Green shot 49% from 3 in January and Kawhi shot 48% from 3 in January, yet Aldridge had the same struggles, and they just don't get enough looks running the offense through him..if the Spurs had Draymond, well, I don't even have to finish my thought:lol

Do you think the Spurs would have went after him instead of Aldridge if the Warriors weren't willing to pay him. He was a restricted free agent, wasn't he?

spurraider21
02-01-2016, 05:38 AM
Look, I watched like 4 games now from these guys, and it's all Curry and a system that fits them like a glove. They're so good, they can afford to have stat-padders like this guy even openly admitting to it, and still pull off the wins...

I mean, I know what Harlem is saying about Raymond vs LMA, but would you be shocked if Marreese Speights has a couple triple-doubles too this season? I wouldn't blink an eye. When you have videogame Curry playing like that, the sky is the limit. I'm counting and basically this dude already rescued Barbosa, Livingston, Iggy and Bogut careers. Guys they were either supremely talented but losers, or looked way past their peak.

I find it kinda ridiculous that when we're basically entering the dawn of the Lebron era, and maybe you start discussing where he ranks top 5 all time, Curry in two years is basically giving him a run for his money. Guys like Nash, Kidd, Chris Paul, Lillard, Westbrook, they all look overrated as fuck next to this kid. It also kinda gives you mixed feelings, IMO, because he's still seemingly getting better and you wonder how high can he really go, while at the same time you already get the idea that unless he ruptures both his achilles it's going to be hell to beat him.
sounds like how fans of other teams used to berate kawhi in years past tbh. raymond's legit.

but yeah, curry is special

james evans
02-01-2016, 11:34 AM
Draymond creates open shots for his teammates, while Aldridge is an inefficient, black hole in the post, tbh..

Danny Green shot 49% from 3 in January and Kawhi shot 48% from 3 in January, yet Aldridge had the same struggles, and they just don't get enough looks running the offense through him..if the Spurs had Draymond, well, I don't even have to finish my thought:lol
i'll finish it for u, if the spurs had Draymond, he wouldn't be avering as many assists because the spurs don't shoot as many 3s or good as GS. Fact of the matter is that Aldrdige can score, but he doesnt have a much time because teams like GS send that double and triple team quick because they don't fear Danny Green and Parker as 3 point shooters this season. Just like the Wolves. When rubio starts knocking down open 3s, that's gonna open the floor up a hell of a lot more for Wiggins and Towns.

Remember the 2010 finals when Kobe guarded Rondo and played off of him 8 feet?

DrunkTXLabrat
02-01-2016, 12:13 PM
sounds like how fans of other teams used to berate kawhi in years past tbh. raymond's legit.

but yeah, curry is special

bingo

ElNono
02-01-2016, 12:52 PM
sounds like how fans of other teams used to berate kawhi in years past tbh. raymond's legit.

but yeah, curry is special

tbf, some people still berate kawhi...

houston spurs fan
02-01-2016, 01:04 PM
Put Al Horford on GS and people will say the same thing. Green is a system player. A good one but a system player...

gambit1990
02-01-2016, 01:32 PM
He's a fat, undersized Leon Powe, tbh, in the right place at the right time
:lol not bad for someone fat and undersized to be leading the league in triple doubles.

Benoit
02-01-2016, 01:49 PM
Put Al Horford on GS and people will say the same thing. Green is a system player. A good one but a system player...

LOL

Wow

SAGirl
02-01-2016, 01:54 PM
i'll finish it for u, if the spurs had Draymond, he wouldn't be avering as many assists because the spurs don't shoot as many 3s or good as GS. Fact of the matter is that Aldrdige can score, but he doesnt have a much time because teams like GS send that double and triple team quick because they don't fear Danny Green and Parker as 3 point shooters this season. Just like the Wolves. When rubio starts knocking down open 3s, that's gonna open the floor up a hell of a lot more for Wiggins and Towns.

Remember the 2010 finals when Kobe guarded Rondo and played off of him 8 feet?
That is a good point.
Still none of our two forwards are good passers (Kawh/LMA). In Portland Aldridge had 3 deadly shooters in the perimeter and he still didn't average a ton of assists. I don't think Kawhi would either. They just have different games. I have to give it to Raymond, he's a gifted passer, but passing needs good players to flourish. Look at our Boris, in the mediocre teams he wans't good, and I consider Boris a more naturally gifted player, because his craftiness and creativity is unmatched.

Benoit
02-01-2016, 01:57 PM
Playing next to a superstar doesn't make you a system player

Were Parker and Ginobili system players all these years?

spursistan
02-01-2016, 02:27 PM
sounds like how fans of other teams used to berate kawhi in years past tbh. raymond's legit.

but yeah, curry is special
Kawhi has no unique all-time talent at his peak for a teammate making him look good..Dude averaged double double in an NBA Finals at age 21 while two Hall Famers shat the bed when push came to shove..

DrunkTXLabrat
02-01-2016, 03:51 PM
Playing next to a superstar doesn't make you a system player

Were Parker and Ginobili system players all these years?

no, but i wouldn't call them superstars either. i think there is a line between superstars like Duncan, Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, Curry and winners like Tony/Manu, Wade, Pau, maybe Draymond.

ElNono
02-01-2016, 03:54 PM
Mo Williams was an All-Star during Lebron's prime... just sayin'

hater
02-01-2016, 03:55 PM
:lol another thread that keeps on giving :lol

hater
02-01-2016, 03:57 PM
Thread back fire. OP didn't learn in 2013.

:lol

skulls138
02-01-2016, 04:03 PM
That is a good point.
Still none of our two forwards are good passers (Kawh/LMA). In Portland Aldridge had 3 deadly shooters in the perimeter and he still didn't average a ton of assists. I don't think Kawhi would either. They just have different games. I have to give it to Raymond, he's a gifted passer, but passing needs good players to flourish. Look at our Boris, in the mediocre teams he wans't good, and I consider Boris a more naturally gifted player, because his craftiness and creativity is unmatched.We need to practice and get better with lesser teams. We arent where we could be, I think thats important to remember. The SL is a chemistry problem that can be solved I feel. I think Kawhi is fine, its Parker and LMA and both needing the ball to feel effective is where the chemistry problem lies. In the end it is LMA that should get the ball and if hes succesful it opens things up like running the ball helps the QB. We need a dangerous scorer to anchor everything. As for Parker, he needs to be more of a floor general and as a relief valve if passing the ball around doesnt work.

As for Aldridge and assists, that doesnt mean his passing didnt help. Its getting the pass out quick and passing it around before the D can catch up that matters.

Also our 3 pt shooting used to better so believe that it can come back after everybody finds their roles.

Everythying needs to be more decisive and quick and confident. Our earlier success masked a problem that still needs to be corrected and we can get a second wind

houston spurs fan
02-01-2016, 04:45 PM
Take Curry away and see how well Draymond does. Put him on, let's say Portland for example. And they would have the exact same record (maybe a couple extra wins). He benefits from playing in an unbelievable system...put him on a team as the 1st or 2nd option and he is just an above average forward...

HarlemHeat37
02-01-2016, 04:47 PM
Do you think the Spurs would have went after him instead of Aldridge if the Warriors weren't willing to pay him. He was a restricted free agent, wasn't he?

Nah, he was never a realistic option..Warriors would have never let him go, tbh..

They have the best player in the NBA and the 2nd best PF in their prime, it would be foolish to fuck with that..

SpursFan86
02-01-2016, 06:00 PM
Obviously he's playing in an environment that is conducive to having success. But anyone who says he's a "system player" and acts like he wouldn't be able to have lots of success elsewhere is clueless :lol

He's a DPOTY-caliber defender who can guard positions 1-5. That will go with him wherever he plays, and that alone makes him extremely valuable. Throw in his playmaking abilities (again, something that he'll bring to the table no matter what team he's on) and his solid 3-point shooting (put him on any team with a halfway decent playmaker and he'll be able to spot up at 3 and spread the floor out)...not sure why people think he'd only be good on GS.

No shit playing alongside Curry makes things easier. It almost always helps in basketball to play alongside other talented players. Draymond might not be able to carry a shitty team in the playoffs, but he's damn near the perfect complimentary player on any team and he has the impact of a superstar. People get so caught up in this argument of "Could X player carry a team by himself?" and that really shouldn't be the whole basis of the argument when it comes to judging players. I'd rather have the perfect 2nd option than some overrated volume scorer who might be able to take a team from 25 to 35 wins.

spurraider21
02-01-2016, 06:17 PM
Mo Williams was an All-Star during Lebron's prime... just sayin'
his numbers with cleveland were no better than his numbers with milwaukee. he just got a token spot like LMA did this year.

raymond's numbers are ridiculous

gambit1990
02-01-2016, 06:39 PM
his numbers with cleveland were no better than his numbers with milwaukee. he just got a token spot like LMA did this year.

raymond's numbers are ridiculous
and mo got selected to the all star team cause bosh was injured. also, other all star reserve guards for that east team included devin harris and jameer nelson :lol

LkrFan
02-01-2016, 07:00 PM
System player, a product of Curry... He's basically 1st season DeJuan Blair with ACLs...

Has his coach, teammates and himself hyping and begging to get personal accolades, disgusting

He's a fat, undersized Leon Powe, tbh, in the right place at the right time

Overrated? :wow Triple Double Leaders:

Green - (and counting)
AlphaBroook - 6
MVP/FMVP - 2
The Kang - 0
Kiwi - 0

:downspin:

LkrFan
02-01-2016, 07:02 PM
it's true, he's massively overrated.

:lol

LkrFan
02-01-2016, 07:06 PM
Drayflop Green is a mental faggot who disappeared in the playoffs when shit got real.

Green 1, Sucka Puncha 0 :lol

How many games you think he getting suspended son? I'll give you Randal and next year's lotto pick for him right now. :downspin:

Venti Quattro
02-01-2016, 07:08 PM
Put Al Horford on GS and people will say the same thing. Green is a system player. A good one but a system player...

You should never be allowed to post again :lmao

LkrFan
02-01-2016, 07:11 PM
They were never likeable. Not under Mark Jackass, not last year, not now. They've always been cocky and annoying, people are just finally noticing it now instead of buying the media's slurp-job on them.

Talking about the pot calling the team kettle black! Doctor mapped out a championship route when he got hired. Don't make me bump det thread! :rollin :lmao :rollin

LkrFan
02-01-2016, 07:12 PM
You misspelled Danny Green.

:lol

Mikeanaro
02-01-2016, 07:20 PM
OK Gaymond is the best since MJ, lol he isnt... just a bigmouth loser living at expenses of Curry and a watered down league.

TD 21
02-01-2016, 07:24 PM
:lmao Closet Warriors fans at it again.

houston spurs fan
02-01-2016, 07:24 PM
You should never be allowed to post again :lmao
The stats are very similar except for the assists...Green is a better defender though but undersized.

hater
02-01-2016, 07:57 PM
:lol

:lmao raven

ElNono
02-01-2016, 08:24 PM
crofl at new age Warrier fans (aka former Lakerfan)... I see they even added the mexican contingent... :lol

daslicer
02-01-2016, 08:33 PM
Larry Bird once said that Scottie Pippen is the second best player in the league when he plays with MJ but without MJ he's probably the 8th best player. I view Curry having the same type of effect on Draymond. Without Curry I think Draymond is a solid player but not an all-star but with Curry he becomes an all-star player.

daslicer
02-01-2016, 08:37 PM
crofl at new age Warrier fans (aka former Lakerfan)... I see they even added the mexican contingent... :lol

Laker fans doing what typical Southern California fans do which is claim Northern California teams when their local teams are garbage. They did that with the 49ers during the 80's and the early 90's when they were winning superbowls. They are now doing the same with the Warriors.

Venti Quattro
02-01-2016, 08:38 PM
Los Angeles Warriors tbh :lmao

We are the LAW :lol

LkrFan
02-01-2016, 09:44 PM
crofl at new age Warrier fans (aka former Lakerfan)... I see they even added the mexican contingent... :lol

:lol

LkrFan
02-01-2016, 09:44 PM
Los Angeles Warriors tbh :lmao

We are the LAW :lol

:lmao

spursistan
02-03-2016, 11:13 PM
Bob Voulgaris is going HAM on Raymond fangirls and the emerging "TOP 5 PLAYER" spiel :lol..

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Agree with ElNono, I bet Mareese Speights and his hideous noggin gets a random triple double playing next Curry for 36 MPG..The dude is that good..

Benoit
02-03-2016, 11:22 PM
When they all hate you and your game, you know you have made it:lol

TheGreatYacht
02-03-2016, 11:25 PM
A 6'8 Rondo that's fatter and uglier, tbh. Sacrificing team success to get triple doubles, a role player on a stacked team, and can't shoot 3's in the playoffs smh. Curry's 51 almost went to waste.

ElNono
02-03-2016, 11:36 PM
A 6'8 Rondo that's fatter and uglier, tbh. Sacrificing team success to get triple doubles, a role player on a stacked team, and can't shoot 3's in the playoffs smh. Curry's 51 almost went to waste.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a1/5c/65/a15c65afa3039cf1af24ad1807aad0ec.jpg

TheGreatYacht
02-03-2016, 11:42 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a1/5c/65/a15c65afa3039cf1af24ad1807aad0ec.jpg
manig :tu

Mikeanaro
02-04-2016, 12:49 AM
Lol Gaymond should thank Chimicurry for carrying him and all the other losers.

Shastafarian
02-25-2016, 01:30 AM
http://s7.postimg.org/iv4zo020b/Screen_Shot_2016_02_25_at_12_26_25_AM.png (http://postimg.org/image/ygmb7ydyf/full/)

What is this shit? :rollin

Raymond Green being the centerpiece :lmao

TheGreatYacht
02-25-2016, 01:32 AM
http://s7.postimg.org/iv4zo020b/Screen_Shot_2016_02_25_at_12_26_25_AM.png (http://postimg.org/image/ygmb7ydyf/full/)

What is this shit? :rollin

Raymond Green being the centerpiece :lmao
1. Durant
2. Lebron
3. Kawhi
4. Westbrook
5. Towns

Benoit
02-25-2016, 01:33 AM
I never thought Dray would become a franchise player but hard work pays off

Dubs are not only fortunate to have the best player in the NBA but they also have another franchise centerpierce in addition to him

Klay could become a franchise centerpiece too

AFMadison
02-25-2016, 01:36 AM
I never thought Dray would become a franchise player but hard work pays off

Dubs are not only fortunate to have the best player in the NBA but they also have another franchise centerpierce in addition to him

Klay could become a franchise centerpiece too
Raymond's blocked 3 saved by a moving screen to set up a Curry 3 :lmao

SPURt
03-03-2016, 05:23 PM
http://www.nba.com/2016/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/03/03/golden-state-warriors-seek-perfection-at-home-stephen-curry-klay-thompson-draymond-green-steve-kerr/index.html?ls=iref:nba:specials:homepage:t1

Didn't want to start a new thread for this weird little piece.

RD2191
03-03-2016, 05:24 PM
http://s7.postimg.org/iv4zo020b/Screen_Shot_2016_02_25_at_12_26_25_AM.png (http://postimg.org/image/ygmb7ydyf/full/)

What is this shit? :rollin

Raymond Green being the centerpiece :lmao
Lol lol lol

Brazil
03-03-2016, 05:40 PM
1. Durant
2. Lebron
3. Kawhi
4. Westbrook
5. Towns

:lol good luck building a team around Westbrook. You usually don't be build around a pg if you want to win tbh unless pg is curry.

id say

curry
lebron
kawhi
durant
im not sold on Davis, you can build around but winning ? I'd rather pick George tbh fwiw

ElNono
03-06-2016, 06:22 PM
lol couldn't even pull the triple-double against the worst team in the West and on top of that he's holding a big fat L...

This is what happens when Curry has a bad shooting game and Iggy isn't out there to bail out everyone defensively...

ViceCity86
03-06-2016, 06:26 PM
Paul George is also overrated AF.Not even top 15 player.

Spurtacular
03-06-2016, 06:30 PM
http://s7.postimg.org/iv4zo020b/Screen_Shot_2016_02_25_at_12_26_25_AM.png (http://postimg.org/image/ygmb7ydyf/full/)

What is this shit? :rollin

Raymond Green being the centerpiece :lmao

:lmao Building around a role player like Raymond!

CP48107
03-06-2016, 06:46 PM
I was surprised too.

He is no doubt a good player, but one of the top 5 to build a team around, that is a stretch.

TheMulletMan3000
03-07-2016, 11:41 AM
Is this a list of already accomplished players or young potential? You can't mix both.
The fact that Draymond is on the list is ridiculous but I'm not surprised.

NameLess Scrub
03-07-2016, 12:16 PM
Just listening to Shaq's podcast.

Draymond: "I'm the emotional leader of this team"

Might want to check that.. maybe spurs fans will like him more :rolleyes

look_at_g_shred
03-07-2016, 03:36 PM
Westbrook :lol

BillMc
03-07-2016, 03:40 PM
http://s7.postimg.org/iv4zo020b/Screen_Shot_2016_02_25_at_12_26_25_AM.png (http://postimg.org/image/ygmb7ydyf/full/)

What is this shit? :rollin

Raymond Green being the centerpiece :lmao

They DID get one thing right. No one wants to build around Harden.

They're underestimating KAT big time. His numbers are comparable to rookie Timmy.

Raven
03-07-2016, 03:42 PM
honestly, it's

Curry
Kawhi
Durant
Lebron
the rest is up for debate.

lilbthebasedgod
03-07-2016, 03:58 PM
Curry
Lebron
Durant
Kawhi
Towns
IMO in building a team around.

houston spurs fan
03-19-2016, 12:28 PM
This system player gets his ass exposed tonight...

ElNono
03-19-2016, 10:55 PM
lolololol hold this :lma:

Curry struggles, and system player just disappears... lmao @ the :cry whining :cry like a bitch after fouling...

Couldn't even stat pad another triple double tonight

ElNono
03-19-2016, 10:58 PM
:lmao this nobody so salty in the post-game interview

Mugen
03-19-2016, 11:01 PM
:lol Raymond,
:lol mouth breathing loser
:lol has to have his mom finish his twitter feuds
:lol System player

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1720251374/ray_400x400.jpg

HarlemHeat37
03-19-2016, 11:02 PM
What did he say, post-game?

TheGreatYacht
03-19-2016, 11:03 PM
Dude needs proactive on his neck, that shit is disgusting. You're on HDTV scrub

DAF86
03-19-2016, 11:06 PM
:lmao this nobody so salty in the post-game interview

What did he say.

DAF86
03-19-2016, 11:07 PM
This fucker could be the key to beating GS, tbh. Just let him keep bricking threes.

HarlemHeat37
03-19-2016, 11:07 PM
This fucker could be the key yo beating GS, tbh. Just let him keep bricking threes.

I don't know why more teams don't live with it, tbh..

ElNono
03-19-2016, 11:08 PM
What did he say, post-game?


What did he say.

:lol he said something about beating us by 30... I picked it up right at the end, gotta find the quotes

PopTheGOAT
03-19-2016, 11:16 PM
:lol he said something about beating us by 30... I picked it up right at the end, gotta find the quotes
"It was only by 8" :cry

SpurPadre
03-19-2016, 11:23 PM
He just told local media here in the Bay that they feel more confident in beating us after seeing how close it was despite missing key players and Curry having his worst night of the season and also playing 6 in 9 nights. He chuckled and said he knows they'll be fine.

exstatic
03-19-2016, 11:25 PM
Brilliant piece of defensive strategy by Pop to put KL2 on Raymond. It made Curry NOT want to run their best play: the Curry/Raymond PnR. Steph wanted NO part of KL2 switching onto him. Normally, players good enough to make the switch onto Curry are dead meat when Raymond overwhelms them physically.

ElNono
03-19-2016, 11:25 PM
He just told local media here in the Bay that they feel more confident in beating us after seeing how close it was despite missing key players and Curry having his worst night of the season and also playing 6 in 9 nights. He chuckled and said he knows they'll be fine.

:lol was he breathing from his mouth when he said all that?

SpurPadre
03-19-2016, 11:28 PM
:lol was he breathing from his mouth when he said all that?

Lol, yeah, a doubly hard feat considering the local guy interviewing him was giving him a hand job at the same time.

UZER
03-19-2016, 11:34 PM
Play curry straight up, switch on picks, stay home on everyone, and everyone becomes very average including Raymond. The only play he made were when the spurs slipped up and tried to trap curry leaving him wide open to drive and the spurs scrambling to recover.

ElNono
03-19-2016, 11:37 PM
Lol, yeah, a doubly hard feat considering the local guy interviewing him was giving him a hand job at the same time.

:rollin

Dancelot
03-19-2016, 11:41 PM
Someone mentioned something about how the Spurs played better tonight than the first matchup & horse face said "well, that isn't hard to do". Just came across really salty. That shit is going to bite him in the ass at some point.

SpurPadre
03-19-2016, 11:44 PM
Play curry straight up, switch on picks, stay home on everyone, and everyone becomes very average including Raymond. The only play he made were when the spurs slipped up and tried to trap curry leaving him wide open to drive and the spurs scrambling to recover.

We did leave Green wide open on a couple three balls on key possessions, though.

ElNono
03-19-2016, 11:48 PM
What did he say, post-game?


What did he say.

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Joseph Kony
03-19-2016, 11:51 PM
He just told local media here in the Bay that they feel more confident in beating us after seeing how close it was despite missing key players and Curry having his worst night of the season and also playing 6 in 9 nights. He chuckled and said he knows they'll be fine.

sounds like he is trying to justify it to himself tbh...the cracks are forming... :lol