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FuzzyLumpkins
01-04-2016, 03:47 PM
As you guys probably noted, Trump tried to make the narrative into Bill and Monica. He did this because Bill has started campaigning in earnest on behalf of his wife. This is interesting news because he is the most popular living president by a long mile and is a political celebrity that people, particular the low income droves and independents who win presidential elections, have shown trust in.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bill-clinton-gop-scary-217324

What is interesting to me is that the press is downplaying this but Bill is a huge draw and winner.

boutons_deux
01-04-2016, 04:29 PM
I figure some of Trumps ads will have pics of Monica. Trump is such shitty, classless punk, but he knows his supporters very well, because they are also shitty, classless, loser punks

FuzzyLumpkins
01-04-2016, 07:09 PM
I figure some of Trumps ads will have pics of Monica. Trump is such shitty, classless punk, but he knows his supporters very well, because they are also shitty, classless, loser punks

Sorry but someone's ability to stay steadfast in the face of temptation is an important issue. Trust is key. I get that deception is portrayed as virtue here but to want that for yourself is stupid.

CosmicCowboy
01-04-2016, 07:11 PM
Bill would be fun to party with.

CosmicCowboy
01-04-2016, 07:16 PM
I doubt Trump really plays the Monica thing too hard. Too many new ones to run with. All those trips with Epstein and the underage hookers are much more current and interesting.

angrydude
01-05-2016, 02:21 AM
All women who claim they are raped should be immediately believed.....unless Bill Clinton because we like him. Then it's his sex life, leave him alone. But put Biil Cosby in jail because we don't like him.

CosmicCowboy
01-05-2016, 08:03 AM
All women who claim they are raped should be immediately believed.....unless Bill Clinton because we like him. Then it's his sex life, leave him alone. But put Biil Cosby in jail because we don't like him.

well Duh. Cosby is black.:p:

boutons_deux
01-05-2016, 09:26 AM
Turning Bill Clinton into Bill Cosby: Sorry, conservatives, there’s a massive difference between their sex abuse allegations

Conservatives play gotcha with Clinton sexual abuse allegations, but skepticism doesn't make feminists hypocritical

Heaven save us all from conservatives who think they have a “gotcha.”

And boy they sure think they have one with Bill Clinton and the supposed “hypocrisy” of feminists who don’t agree that his wife’s career should be derailed because of allegations of sexual harassment and assault made against him in the 1990s.

At stake is this alleged unfairness that while some men accused of sexual abuse get in actual trouble for it, Clinton walks around free and even gets to campaign for his wife. Meanwhile Hillary Clinton, who, in a bit of ironically sexist logic for these supposed defenders of feminist integrity, is treated as an extension of her husband and therefore guilty of anything he might have done.

This entire gotcha is based on a straw man. Contrary to what conservatives might have you believe, it simply isn’t true that feminists think every allegation of sexual harassment or assault, no matter how unlikely, should be treated like God’s honest truth. What feminists want is to end the double standard, where sexual abuse allegations are disbelieved out of hand, subjected to more skepticism and second-guessing than any other crime, or dismissed even in the face of strong evidence. By saying most women aren’t liars, we aren’t denying that some women do lie. This is an important distinction.

“I think rape and sexual assault allegations should be treated like allegations of mugging or burglary —which is to say, investigated promptly and thoroughly, on the assumption that the person reporting a crime is telling the truth,” Kate Harding, the author of 2015’s must-read examination of rape culture, “Asking For It,” told me over email (http://www.amazon.com/Asking-It-Alarming-Culture-about/dp/0738217026). “But that’s often not how it works — so many people, including many in the justice system, presume that anyone reporting a rape is just as likely to be lying as not. When feminists affirm that we believe victims, we’re saying there’s absolutely no good reason to presume that when someone reports sexual violence, there’s a 50/50 chance they’re lying.”

“We’re not saying we’ll ignore any evidence that someone fabricated a claim of rape,” she added.

Either way, the equation of the Clinton accusations and the Cosby accusations simply doesn’t pass the smell test. Cosby has been accused by more than 50 women of sexual assault or attempted sexual assault (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2015/10/23/two-more-cosby-accusers-go-public-total-nears-60/74477228/), and there’s no reason to think anyone would lie about it. Clinton, in contrast, has been accused of sexual harassment by Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey, and the only substantive accusation of rape, made by Juanita Broaddrick, was thoroughly investigated in the ’90s. (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/1999/03/is_juanita_broaddrick_telling_the_truth.html)

There simply is no evidence, one way or another, to tell if this was a sincere accusation or yet another incident of a wild-eyed Clinton hater with a grudge telling tall tales of murder and mayhem coming from those dastardly and satanic Clintons. Not all rape allegations are the same. And it’s not feminists who are suggesting they should be treated that way.

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/05/turning_bill_clinton_into_bill_cosby_sorry_conserv atives_theres_a_massive_difference_between_their_s ex_abuse_allegations/

CosmicCowboy
01-05-2016, 10:11 AM
:lmao @ Boo claiming Bill has reformed since the early 90's. Do a little research on Bill and Epstein, Boo...like I said, Bill would be fun to party with, but he is no innocent boy scout.

boutons_deux
01-05-2016, 10:12 AM
:lmao @ Boo claiming Bill has reformed since the early 90's. Do a little research on Bill and Epstein, Boo...like I said, Bill would be fun to party with, but he is no innocent boy scout.

Haven't made any claims about Slick Willy, so, You Lie