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MultiTroll
01-06-2016, 11:01 AM
Any of you SpursTalkers taken Kratom?

Welcome to kratom, a new semi-legal sort of mostly drug (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/us/kratom-an-addicts-alternative-is-found-to-be-addictive-itself.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0). Long used, and now banned in its native Thailand, kratom is made from kratom leaves, shredded and then brewed into a kind of tea. It is said to affect the brain like an opiate, say Oxy or heroin. It is addictive, particularly to people already prone to addiction, such as alcoholics.Kratom exists in a kind of legal purgatory. Because it is categorized as a “dietary supplement,” the Food and Drug Administration cannot officially restrict its sale unless it is proved unsafe or producers claim that it treats a medical condition. Packages are often labeled “not for human consumption” to avoid tripping such alarms.
However, none of that stopped the U.S. government, which just up and banned the the import of kratom in 2014, under its authority when a substance is “strongly suspected” to be harmful. That year, marshals seized 25,000 pounds of it from a single Los Angeles warehouse, so the stuff seems to have a few fans out there.

The Drug Enforcement Administration has listed kratom as a “drug of concern” but not a controlled substance, which would require proven health risks and abuse potential. Indiana, Tennessee, Vermont and Wyoming have banned it on their own; several other states, including Florida and New Jersey, have set aside similar bills until more is known about kratom’s health risks. The Army has forbidden its use by soldiers.
On the other hand, the New York Times reports (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/us/kratom-an-addicts-alternative-is-found-to-be-addictive-itself.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0) that powdered forms of the leaf are sold at “head shops,” gas stations, convenience stores and on the Internet. Bars have recently opened in Colorado, New York, North Carolina and other states where customers nurse brewed varieties, varying in strength, from plastic bottles that resemble those for fruit juice.

I. Hustle
01-06-2016, 11:17 AM
I like Thai food. Thai Chili is my favorite place.

Leebrix
01-06-2016, 04:28 PM
It's not new, I've used it for years mostly when I'm just out of pain meds for chronic back issues. It's perfectly safe, no side-effects... and you can try different strains for different effects. green strains provide a more energized feeling as red with give you more of the downer/relaxed. I definitely wouldn't recommend buying from your local head shop though... shit is garbage. you can get much more potent and pay like 1/4 the price online.

I would personally recommend kwikkratom.com. But there are many to choose from

baseline bum
01-06-2016, 05:53 PM
Why do they call smoke shops head shops?

Chris
01-06-2016, 08:07 PM
Why do they call smoke shops head shops?

Pot heads

baseline bum
01-06-2016, 08:38 PM
Pot heads

Makes sense. When I hear head shop I think of a place with hookers.

Avante
01-06-2016, 09:37 PM
Been to Bangkok 4 times, fantastic city. Yep, drugs all over the place, with your cab driver/guide*** able to score everything.

*** they were all lined up when ya pulled in, so you picked one and he'd make a deal with the 4-5 of us. He was there for you everyday until ya left. He took care of us.

Mitch
01-06-2016, 09:42 PM
:lol

Leebrix
01-06-2016, 09:42 PM
Why do they call smoke shops head shops?

I always wondered myself. But a quick google search says:

The term "Head Shop" is from a phrase started in the 60's. It is actually a lyric from the Jefferson Airplane song "White Rabbit" The last line is "Feed your Head". It was commonly misinterpreted to mean get high and expand your consciousnes.

.... Learn somethin everyday.

I. Hustle
01-07-2016, 09:38 AM
Been to Bangkok 4 times, fantastic city. Yep, drugs all over the place, with your cab driver/guide*** able to score everything.

*** they were all lined up when ya pulled in, so you picked one and he'd make a deal with the 4-5 of us. He was there for you everyday until ya left. He took care of us.

Hhhhmmmmm

boutons_deux
01-07-2016, 03:48 PM
US Marshals seize dietary supplements containing kratom

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/304821.php

johnsmith
01-07-2016, 09:03 PM
I took it prior to having back surgery cause I was tired of painkillers and read about it. I still occasionally buy it if I'm tired and coffee isn't cutting it.

Pretty simple stuff that's a very weak alternative to opiate pain meds.....so naturally it will be illegal soon.

johnsmith
09-06-2016, 01:27 PM
I took it prior to having back surgery cause I was tired of painkillers and read about it. I still occasionally buy it if I'm tired and coffee isn't cutting it.

Pretty simple stuff that's a very weak alternative to opiate pain meds.....so naturally it will be illegal soon.


Called it!

chunticakes
09-06-2016, 02:45 PM
I once sat next to a real pretty Thai chick on a train. I kept thinking to myself, don't get a boner...don't get a boner...don't get a boner. Well...turns out she did.

DJR210
09-06-2016, 04:17 PM
I once sat next to a real pretty Thai chick on a train. I kept thinking to myself, "don't get a boner...don't get a boner...don't get a boner. Well...turns out she did.

Tf you chilling w/ ladyboys for bruh?

chunticakes
09-06-2016, 07:50 PM
Tf you chilling w/ ladyboys for bruh?

I learn from the best.

Avante

140
09-06-2016, 08:01 PM
I learn from the best.

Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483)
He's definitely the forums expert when it comes to southeast Asian ladyboys tbh

chunticakes
09-06-2016, 08:04 PM
He's definitely the forums expert when it comes to southeast Asian ladyboys tbh

Yes.

SpursforSix
09-06-2016, 08:09 PM
Y'all is gay.

DJR210
09-06-2016, 10:45 PM
inb4 the old faggot comes in a denies he fucked underage ladyboys

baseline bum
09-07-2016, 06:37 PM
inb4 the old faggot comes in a denies he fucked underage ladyboys

Maybe they fucked him?

DJR210
09-07-2016, 08:32 PM
Maybe they fucked him?

That's a solid theory

Capt Bringdown
09-07-2016, 09:00 PM
Typically those who declaim their aversion to ladyboys the most vociferously ...well, you know how that goes.
Funny that, innit?
By the by, kratom can get you busted in Thailand (http://www.samuitimes.com/two-men-arrested-in-phuket-drug-bust/). It's more popular and freely available in the US. I believe most of it comes from Indo.
Also, you want steer well clear of illegal recreational substances in Thailand. Despite its reputation as the sex-on-tap capital of the universe, Thailand is mainly a socially conservative country that doesn't take kindly to foreigners bringing their laissez faire drug attitudes on holiday.
Plenty of other things to do over there.

UNT Eagles 2016
09-13-2016, 01:14 PM
Typically those who declaim their aversion to ladyboys the most vociferously ...well, you know how that goes.
Funny that, innit?
By the by, kratom can get you busted in Thailand (http://www.samuitimes.com/two-men-arrested-in-phuket-drug-bust/). It's more popular and freely available in the US. I believe most of it comes from Indo.
Also, you want steer well clear of illegal recreational substances in Thailand. Despite its reputation as the sex-on-tap capital of the universe, Thailand is mainly a socially conservative country that doesn't take kindly to foreigners bringing their laissez faire drug attitudes on holiday.
Plenty of other things to do over there.
If the outrageous heat and humidity doesn't kill you there, then the H5N1 bird flu or radical Islamics will... if you manage to survive all those plus the insanely spicy/contaminated food and the stench of durian, you'll probably be flying home with AIDS from a ladyboy who raped you in your sleep.

Would avoid Thailand at all costs.