Jet blue airbus A320 emergency landing underway

[Vashner]

It's front gear are sideways.. they flew around for a while.. they just dumped fuel and are gonna try to land.. HANG ON!!

It's in long beach... no links yet.

[CharlieMac]

A320 might be one of the best Foo Fighters songs. Actually it's in my all-time island top 5.

[Vashner]

It's the 2nd smallest plane from Airbus. about the Size of a 737.

http://abclocal.go.com/images/092105_jetbluelg.jpg

[MannyIsGod]

I was listening to an NOAA radio link when they broke in with that. Thats insane!

[bigzak25]

Crash Landing In 5 Minutes...i'm Watching Cnn...

Godbless All Those People!!! Say A Prayer If You Haven't Already! :cry

[CharlieMac]

I've got my "HOLY SHIT" response ready to go in another window.....

[bigzak25]

looks like the gear is down, but i don't think it's locked...maybe they fixed it...oh man...at least they dumped all their fuel...

[exstatic]

:wow :wow :wow

[Vashner]

Apparently it does not have a fuel dump system. .they are still gonna fly another hour to burn off

[exstatic]

Diverting to LAX. 100+ firefighters at the ready...

[samikeyp]

MSNBC is saying 5-10 min.

[Spam]

This is like watching a white bronco.

[exstatic]

MSNBC says 5-10 minutes until landing.

[samikeyp]

With that landing gear twisted, I hope that thing doesn't flip.

[Hook Dem]

Good coverage on CNN right now!

[CharlieMac]

And a tornado in Minnesota!

[Shelly]

I can't believe they're showing that live!

[exstatic]

This is like watching a white bronco.

Not to me. I care about what happens to the people in the plane...

[Vashner]

The guy talking on msnbc sounds like an idiot..

Try to break the nose off? ... no.. you try to slow it down as much.. not ram the front down... what a noob...

[bigzak25]

cnn reported that they had already dumped fuel over the pacific and i know they have been circling longbeach for almost an hour...the flight left burbank headed for newyork, so they had plenty of fuel...i find it hard to believe that ANY commercial airliner wouldn't have an emergency fuel dump system and a manual crank for landing gear...i'm sure they had both, but i could be wrong...maybe you got the correct info...

[Vashner]

I am monitoring it on airliners.net..

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/918988/L/

[MannyIsGod]

Apparently there is no fuel dump system on this plane. WTF man?

[bigzak25]

man, with the front gear sideways, that shit better get straight QUICK on touchdown or just shear off...this is crazy to watch...Godbless them.

[Spam]

Not to me. I care about what happens to the people in the plane...

True..but it is the drama that is making you watch.

[bigzak25]

fuck the tornado...if you in minny, get the fuck out, a twister is coming...if you near galveston or corpus, get the fuck out, a hurricane is coming....get back to the Airliner!!!....oh well, at least it's on split screen....

[Cant_Be_Faded]

And a tornado in Minnesota!


If we get breaking news of a massive earthquake in california, this is truely the end of the world, or at least the end of the country

[bigzak25]

True..but it is the drama that is making you watch.


it's concern for the people...believe me, i'd rather be on my way to the park and NOT watching this...I wish it wasn't happening....hopefully all will be well...

[bigzak25]

139 passengers plus crew on board...

[Kori Ellis]

fuck the tornado...if you in minny, get the fuck out, a twister is coming...if you near galveston or corpus, get the fuck out, a hurricane is coming....get back to the Airliner!!!....oh well, at least it's on split screen....

Yeah this is pretty crazy that all this is happening at once.

I don't believe in the end of the world mumbo jumbo. But this sucks for a lot of peeps.

[bigzak25]

i believe you guys about no fuel dump system now...they are saying that the airliner is still circling longbeach...which would be to burn fuel...thanks for the 411. :tu

[Vashner]

139 passengers 6 crew....

Let's hope for the best...

[Spam]

it's concern for the people...believe me, i'd rather be on my way to the park and NOT watching this...I wish it wasn't happening....hopefully all will be well...

I care but my watching it will not help the people on board and nobody is making you watch.

[Kori Ellis]

i believe you guys about no fuel dump system now...they are saying that the airliner is still circling longbeach...which would be to burn fuel...thanks for the 411. :tu


It's going to land at LAX not Long Beach. They ditched the Long Beach plan because LAX as a much longer runway and more emergency prep.

[Vashner]

Emergency landings are actually very common.. they happen everyday.. just you don't here too much about the successfull ones.

Yea you would want to bleed speed off before lowering the nose.. let the main gear do as much work as possible...

I have crashed many a times in the T38 simulator at Brooks from like landing too fast (well when I was first training on it).. ..

[bigzak25]

Yeah this is pretty crazy that all this is happening at once.

I don't believe in the end of the world mumbo jumbo. But this sucks for a lot of peeps.


very true...this is crazy...


as for end of world, i'm sure that was just a bad joke...believe me, the WHOLE WORLD will KNOW when that day comes...

[exstatic]

Can you imagine being on board, and knowing you're going to crash, but you have to fly around for a while to burn off fuel?

"I'll have 5 Jack and Cokes. Put it on my tab."

[bigzak25]

I care but my watching it will not help the people on board and nobody is making you watch.

you are right nobody is making me watch...and I would be right to say I never said anybody was making me watch...

you watching won't help...you praying would.


It's going to land at LAX not Long Beach. They ditched the Long Beach plan because LAX as a much longer runway and more emergency prep.

sounds like a plan...

[ZStomp]

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[Shelly]

Can you imagine being on board, and knowing you're going to crash, but you have to fly around for a while to burn off fuel?

"I'll have 5 Jack and Cokes. Put it on my tab."


I know I'd be downing the booze.

I hope it's a safe landing :(

[bigzak25]

Can you imagine being on board, and knowing you're going to crash, but you have to fly around for a while to burn off fuel?

"I'll have 5 Jack and Cokes. Put it on my tab."


at this point, that shit better be complimentary if anyone asks for it...but it's serve yourself as the stewardesses are surely strapped in by now...:tu

[NZHayden]

link - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9430871/

BREAKING NEWS
MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 8:37 p.m. ET Sept. 21, 2005
A JetBlue flight with 139 passengers on board developed a problem with its landing gear and was diverted to Los Angeles International Airport for an emergency landing on Wednesday, officials said.

Flight 292, which was bound for New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport, was expected to attempt an emergency landing, a spokesman for Long Beach airport said. MSNBC TV reported that the plane was scheduled to attempt the landing at 5:25 p.m. PT.

Jim Wells, a spokesman for the Los Angeles Fire Department, said that while a safe landing was expected, “we don't know exactly what's going to happen. Thats why we have these people there; we're not sure what's going to happen.”
Wells said many hospitals on the ground would be ready to receive passengers if necessary.

The plane circled in the area burning fuel, aviation experts said. The Airbus A320 is designed so that it cannot dump fuel. The flight had a full load of fuel for the cross-country flight. The aircraft has a capacity of 46,860 pounds of fuel.

The airplane flew past the tower at Long Beach airport, where officials determined that there was a problem with the landing gear, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Donn Walker said. The plane's front wheels were turned sideways.

Television images showed the jet circling with the front landing gear turned at a 90 degree angle from its normal position.

The flight, which took off from Burbank shortly after 3:15 p.m., was scheduled to arrive at JFK at 11:35 p.m.

[NZHayden]

this is crazy stuff thats going on, but like kori said not the end of the world

[Kori Ellis]

The Airbus A320 is designed so that it cannot dump fuel.

Why would it be designed that way?

[Vashner]

Please leave the politics out for now.. that's stupid when American's life are in the balance.

320 front office pics..
All airbus have side joysticks... compared to boeing's traditional yoke sticks.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/900186/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/899855/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/783539/L/

[bigzak25]

I hope God himself takes over the Pilots Body and lands that sucker safely...:angel

[Vashner]

Why would it be designed that way?

Weight and cost are lower. The problem would be if you had a full load and one engine blew right at takeoff... The plane itself is so light and well designed it can normally land heavy with maybe blowing tires etc...

[bigzak25]

Why would it be designed that way?


they are used predominantly in low fare airlines which can only afford low wage maintenance...meaning illegals...meaning siphoning of gas potential...meaning they need to be designed that way...:p

[Spam]

Please leave the politics out for now.. that's stupid when American's life are in the balance.

320 front office pics..
All airbus have side joysticks... compared to boeing's traditional yoke sticks.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/900186/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/899855/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/783539/L/

"Lives" are in the balance right now and yeah I'm watching.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm praying.

[Vashner]

"Lives" are in the balance right now and yeah I'm watching.

Whut sorry a typo.. geez.. I got a million things going on here at once gimme a break..

[JoeChalupa]

Actually, I think Spam was referring to the distinction of "American" lives but I could be wrong.

[bigzak25]

so what are the chances that landing gear straightens out if the pilot comes in right...i'm hoping that happens...:tu

[Vashner]

No I screwed up .. ok nevermind back to the show.. move along..

[JoeChalupa]

I'm thinking it'll break off and they can make a belly landing?

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

@ work how many more mins till att. landing????

[Vashner]

I'm thinking it'll break off and they can make a belly landing?

Hum.. it's VERY strong... it might break but.. would be good if they have a stopping net at the landing site..

And LOTS of foam...

She's got a good 50/50 chance of no one getting hurt...

[bigzak25]

I'm thinking it'll break off and they can make a belly landing?


yeah, that's what's expected to happen joe, but i'm a dreamer...i want that landing to be as soft as mouse's ass after a Nair Session...

as for when the plane will land Trez, as soon as they use up the excess fuel...the only people that know that are the tower and the pilots...

[JoeChalupa]

yeah, that's what's expected to happen joe, but i'm a dreamer...i want that landing to be as soft as mouse's ass after a Nair Session...



That'd still be a very rough landing so I hope they have plenty of foam.

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

Tnx BZ !!

Anyone know if a live news stream?

The big guys are all prerecorded with the LIVE grahpic..........

[JoeChalupa]

Thank God!

[Shelly]

Man...I had my fingers crossed. Kudos to the pilots!

[Kori Ellis]

That was uneventful. Thank God.

[MannyIsGod]

Props to those pilots. They saved quite a few lives.

[samikeyp]

excellent!

[bigzak25]

Thank God!


u said it all... :elephant

[Vashner]

LOL that first pilot said "I would ram the nose down and try to break it off"..

PLEASE don't ever let me fly with him at the controls...

[bigzak25]

i actually missed it...i was feeding the dog...when i looked at the tv, they were stopped...Awesome...

[KEDA]

GIVE THOSE PILOTS A RAISE!!!!


they deserved it tonight!

[bigzak25]

GIVE THOSE PILOTS A RAISE!!!!


they deserved it tonight!


the pilots will get all that and more...but God landed that plane. :tu

[Vashner]

I think they are going to slow getting them off. .if the gear is cracked it could collapse... GET OUT already...!

[bigzak25]

good point...they should at least have the truck to prop up the front hydraulicly brought in...

[bigzak25]

okay, the people are safe! what the hell is wrong with CNN!!! there is a tornado coming to minny and a hurricane about to hit the Texas gulfcoast!!!

[jochhejaam]

I don't know what kind of skill it took to keep that front tire off the ground for so long but it looked awesome from here...like doing a wheelie on a jet.
AWESOME!

[Vashner]

WHUT? The LA Fire Chief said "there was no fire just smoke"..

Geeze he must be Brownies brother or something... sigh..

[jochhejaam]

The guy commenting on FOX said they would replace the landing gear and have the plane running again by Friday! He said that particular problem with the landing gear happens about 1 in everu 1,000,000 landings.

[bigzak25]

and in late breaking news...Al Gore has beat Bush once again and is donning a Firemen's hat on the LAX runway...:lmao

and the Clinton's are en route to washington to voice their disgust with the corruption in the FAA that Republicans are responsible for...including the missappropriation of funding meant for quality landing gear. :lol

[NZHayden]

man did you see that thing holding the wheel thats bloody strong it didnt even snap, those pilots are good but hey thats what they train for aint it?

[Ocotillo]

Friggin' Bush.

[boutons]

what did the pilots do differently to set the plane down?

If one of them had climbed down on the nose landing gear like John Matrix in "Commando", and wrestled the wheels into position, bravo, impressive. :)

[bigzak25]

props to boutons for giving credit when it's due...:lol

although i must admit, the though of commando coming to the rescue had entered my mind as well...:tu

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Dude, that was an hour and a half of watching a plane fly in a fucking circle that I can never get back :lol

I thought we were facing the apocalypse for sure... monster hurricanes in the Gulf, tornados in the North, and planes crashing in LA :spin

That pilot's gonna get laid tonight for sure :tu

[NZHayden]

That pilot's gonna get laid tonight for sure :tu
dont forget the 2 week paid vacation

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm sure he gets a bonus too. 50K bonus sure beats the hell out of what they would have had to pay out for injuries/death.

[NZHayden]

totally agree, hes gonna get laid get paid and get a bonus, i wanna be a life saving pilot, what a day hes had though

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Amazing, recovered cockpit footage of the pilot during landing...


























http://www.tigersweat.com/movies/airplane/air11s.jpg

[Shelly]

Passengers saw landing drama unfold on TV

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- The airliner circled Southern California for hours, crippled by a faulty landing gear, while inside its cabin 140 passengers watched their own life-and-death drama unfolding on live television.

While satellite TV sets aboard JetBlue Flight 292 were tuned to news broadcasts, some passengers cried. Others tried to telephone relatives and one woman sent a text message to her mother in Florida attempting to comfort her in the event she died.

"It was very weird. It would've been so much calmer without" the televisions, Pia Varma of Los Angeles said after the plane skidded to a safe landing Wednesday evening in a stream of sparks and burning tires. No one was hurt.

Varma, 23, and other passengers said the plane's monitors carried live DirectTV broadcasts on the plane's problems until just a few minutes before landing at Los Angeles International Airport.

The landing gear trouble -- the front wheels were stuck in a sideways position -- was discovered almost immediately after the plane departed Bob Hope Airport in Burbank at 3:17 p.m., en route to New York City.

The Airbus A320 circled the Long Beach Airport, about 30 miles south of Burbank, before being cleared to land at Los Angeles. It stayed in flight for three hours to burn off fuel, said Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Donn Walker.

Zachary Mastoon of New York said it was "surreal" to watch his plane's fate being discussed on live TV while it was in the air. At one point, he said, he tried to call his family, but his cell phone call wouldn't go through.

"I wanted to call my dad to tell him I'm alive so far," the 27-year-old musician said.

The pilot finally brought the plane down, back wheels first. As he slowly lowered the nose gear, the stuck wheels erupted in smoke and flames, which quickly burned out.

"At the end it was the worst because you didn't know if it was going to work, if we would catch fire. It was very scary. Grown men were crying," said Diane Hamilton, 32, a television graphics specialist.

As the plane was about to touch the ground, Hamilton said crew members ordered people to assume a crash position, putting their heads between their knees.

"They would yell, "Brace! Brace! Brace!"' she said. "I thought this would be it."

Lisa Schiff, 34, of Los Angeles sent a text message to her mother in Miami that said: "I love you. Don't worry about me. If something happens, know that I am watching you and Daddy and (her brother) David."

Emergency crews from across the area met the plane on the runway. Spectators gathered on buildings and stood on parked cars to see firsthand as passengers walked down a stairway onto the tarmac with their carry-on luggage.

Some passengers shook hands with emergency workers and waved to cameras. One firefighter carrying a boy across the tarmac put his helmet on the child's head.

"We all cheered, I was bawling, I cried so much," said Christine Lund, 25, who was traveling with her cat.

She and the other passengers were taken by bus from the tarmac to the airport's international terminal.

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who spoke with the pilot, identified him as Scott Burke and praised him for the calm he showed during the flight.

"He joked that he was sorry he put the plane down 6 inches off the center line," Villaraigosa said.

Ann Decrozals, an Airbus spokeswoman at the aircraft manufacturer's headquarters in France, said the A320 was designed to be able to land with front wheel problems.

JetBlue spokeswoman Jenny Dervin said the airline was investigating the incident with the FAA and National Transportation Safety Board. She declined to identify the pilot and first officer.

About 57 of the passengers were placed on another flight, which arrived at New York's Kennedy Airport at 6:05 a.m. EDT Thursday, said airline spokeswoman Sharon Jones. Others were put up in Los Angeles area hotels and given reservations for Thursday flights. Still others simply returned home.

Among the latter group was Varma, who was greeted by her parents at the terminal.

"It started out just being a ghastly birthday, but now it's just fabulous, " said her father, Anil, who turned 51 on Wednesday.

JetBlue, based in New York, is a five-year-old low-fare airline with 286 flights a day and destinations in 13 states and the Caribbean. It operates a fleet of 81 A320s.

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