Game Thread: Spurs vs knicks -- FRI. (1/8) - 7:30PM CST (3:30AM Riga Time)

[Chinook]

You definitely don't belong in Princeton.

Puck Frinceton

[sasaint]

Ya Tony missed that last shot but he made 2 other big shots down the stretch. I'm surprised Carmelo didn't try and force a shot up there he was heating up in the 4th. I'm also shocked the Knicks didn't call a time out on that last play especially with how well they executed the previous play out of that time out. Win is a win I guess. Tough game against the ref's and a Knicks team that showed up to play. :flag:

Absolutely stunning by Fisher!

[SpurPadre]

Let's take the win, fellas. 22-0 at home is no easy feat.

[TampaDude]

Fuck all those fucking fucks. GO SPURS GO!!!!!

[rasuo214]

Spurs win and that's all that matters. Plus after all those blowouts it was nice to have a tough close game in preparation for some of the tougher games we have coming up.

[DMC]

We can only hope.
Talking about Porzi.

[Uriel]

A bunch of things went the Knicks' way late and the Spurs still won. I'm actually damn proud. The Knicks had to dodge several extremely questionable no-calls against Kawhi and LMA, then hit two bailout threes, one off a lucky bounce and one well-covered.
Agreed. The Knicks played their best game of the season while we played arguably our worst at home and still won the game despite some blatant missed calls. Championship teams find ways to win even when everything seems to be going against their way.

[Uriel]

Puck Frinceton
:lol Ivy rivalry

[Chinook]

A bunch of things went the Knicks' way late and the Spurs still won. I'm actually damn proud. The Knicks had to dodge several extremely questionable no-calls against Kawhi and LMA, then hit two bailout threes, one off a lucky bounce and one well-covered.

Danny playing well enough for Pop to trust him in the clutch makes this an awesome victory. As long as the Spurs win, the most important thing for them is getting their guys in rhythm and building chemistry. Tony, Danny, Kawhi, Boris and LaMarcus are all playing well together. Them being able to close out a clutch victory only means good things.

And :lol at anyone who doesn't think the Spurs can close. How the hell do they think the Spurs keep blowing teams out?

[Chinook]

:lol Ivy rivalry

So are you a Tiger?

[Mr. Body]

Danny playing well enough for Pop to trust him in the clutch makes this an awesome victory. As long as the Spurs win, the most important thing for them is getting their guys in rhythm and building chemistry. Tony, Danny, Kawhi, Boris and LaMarcus are all playing well together. Them being able to close out a clutch victory only means good things.

And :lol at anyone who doesn't think the Spurs can close. How the hell do they think the Spurs keep blowing teams out?

There's something to it. The Spurs are lacking in sharp end-game mechanics. They have so little need for it the offense hitches and freezes. They'll need to figure this out.

[Chinook]

There's something to it. The Spurs are lacking in sharp end-game mechanics. They have so little need for it the offense hitches and freezes. They'll need to figure this out.

The point is that people are using like the first game in a long time that the Spurs have been threatened as an example of them not being able to close. The reason why they keep blowing teams out is because they've been closing VERY well this season. A team that has to scrape together a bunch of close victories is the one with closing issues.

[rasuo214]

btw Danny deserves some credit for playing well on defense. He earned those extra minutes tonight.

[GSH]

I said it early in the thread, teams with young athletic bigs are going to give the Spurs trouble. Porzingas is pretty much THE young athletic big right now. A lot of people seem to have forgotten how much trouble Lopez has given Tim the last couple of seasons. To me, that was one of the first signs that Tim really was aging. There was a time when Tim would have just ripped him a new one. Instead, he went straight at Tim quite a lot, and made Tim put up some really bad shots on the other end. You notice that Tim played less than 21 minutes tonight, and that left the Spurs under-sized against this Knicks team.

There are always going to be teams that match up better against a particular team. If the Spurs meet a team like that in the playoffs, it will probably be a long series. Or a short series, with a lot of close games.

[sasaint]

btw Danny deserves some credit for playing well on defense. He earned those extra minutes tonight.

Danny played a very good game at both ends, tbh. Good for Danny! Good for us!

[littlecoyotecoin]

You definitely don't belong in Princeton.

Prison, maybe.

[sasaint]

I said it early in the thread, teams with young athletic bigs are going to give the Spurs trouble. Porzingas is pretty much THE young athletic big right now. A lot of people seem to have forgotten how much trouble Lopez has given Tim the last couple of seasons. To me, that was one of the first signs that Tim really was aging. There was a time when Tim would have just ripped him a new one. Instead, he went straight at Tim quite a lot, and made Tim put up some really bad shots on the other end. You notice that Tim played less than 21 minutes tonight, and that left the Spurs under-sized against this Knicks team.

There are always going to be teams that match up better against a particular team. If the Spurs meet a team like that in the playoffs, it will probably be a long series. Or a short series, with a lot of close games.

Good points. That being the case, why not get Boban in the game against Lopez. BTW, it was Kawhi on Porzingis that finally quieted him down from 3 in the 4th quarter.

[SAGirl]

Frankly, I don't know why Pop went away from Simmons in the second half.
He wasn't special tonight and Danny was having a hell of a defensive game. If Danny was shitting it, I could have seen more of him, but it was either sit Danny/Kawhi/Manu for him and the three had a good game.

Frankly it is not his minutes at all that I thought was the problem. 10 minutes against a team like this is about what I wuold expect. The problem is that when he was there, they didn't look for him to make plays. The one cut he had was a beauty, and he could have 1 or 2 more shots.

[SASdynasty!]

MVParker - 16pts, 6reb, 8ast "take that French fuck out"

Patty - 0pts, 0-4 shooting "Played great as a starter"

dacuck :lmao

[GSH]

Danny played a very good game at both ends, tbh. Good for Danny! Good for us!

2-3 from 3P. 4 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, and 3 blocks. Yeah, he played well. If only he wasn't 1-6 on his 2-point shots. Danny just needs to quit trying to take it to the paint.

[313]

One of those Barnesque night for him, it happens, he's still human being not an alien powered player like his krews believe him to be.

So glad that MVParker shows up tonight, CLUTCH baskets in the 4th quarter.
:tu agreed

[sasaint]

He wasn't special tonight and Danny was having a hell of a defensive game. If Danny was shitting it, I could have seen more of him, but it was either sit Danny/Kawhi/Manu for him and the three had a good game.

Frankly it is not his minutes at all that I thought was the problem. 10 minutes against a team like this is about what I wuold expect. The problem is that when he was there, they didn't look for him to make plays. The one cut he had was a beauty, and he could have 1 or 2 more shots.

Danny had a good game at both ends. Manu had a good game. Kawhi had a very pedestrian game (for Kawhi) on the offensive end. That was due to his expending so much energy on D. But when Kawhi was out, Danny played Melo very well. I think there were minutes for Simmons in that stretch, especially with Patty being subpar - again. I also would like to have seen Pop give Boban a shot against Lopez. Tim couldn't do it tonight, and he only played 21 minutes. Pop clearly wanted this game, and he shortened his rotation to the vets.

[From Downtown]

At least we won

[TheGreatYacht]

Good job by Green tonight on Melo :tu was definitely the bigger thorn on his side tonight

[GSH]

When you look at all the factors the Spurs controlled tonight, you'd think they would have won fairly easily.

Total rebounds S-49 NY-44
Offensive Rebounds S-12 NY-10
Points in the Paint S-60 NY-33
Turnovers S-8 NY-8 (any time the Spurs are under 10 turnovers, its usually a solid win)
FG% S-44.1% NY-41.8%

So what kept the Knicks in this game? It's pretty simple, when you look at the box:

The Knicks shot a ridiculous (for them) percentage from the 3P line. The Knicks are 23rd in the league, and average 33.7% from the arc. Tonight they shot 43%.
Kawhi took 4 FT's to Carmello's 10. (18 FGA for Kawhi, compared to 15 FGA for Melo.) Right calls, or wrong, the whistles were a big factor in the game.

[TheGreatYacht]

BatManu20 needs to make the game threads from now on tbh. Op is a faggot

[SAGirl]

I said it early in the thread, teams with young athletic bigs are going to give the Spurs trouble. Porzingas is pretty much THE young athletic big right now. A lot of people seem to have forgotten how much trouble Lopez has given Tim the last couple of seasons. To me, that was one of the first signs that Tim really was aging. There was a time when Tim would have just ripped him a new one. Instead, he went straight at Tim quite a lot, and made Tim put up some really bad shots on the other end. You notice that Tim played less than 21 minutes tonight, and that left the Spurs under-sized against this Knicks team.

There are always going to be teams that match up better against a particular team. If the Spurs meet a team like that in the playoffs, it will probably be a long series. Or a short series, with a lot of close games.

I have noticed several off games by Tim already this season. He's looked very poor against athletic or talented bigs, and when he does the team struggles. Off the top of my head, games we were close or lost, Tim didn't have a good game and we had to minimize his minutes.

[bklynspursfan]

IDIOT, Kawhi was clapping his hands b/c he WIDE OPEN & Tony even acknowledged him after he called his own number. It's was LMA that opened up the lane for him b/c Porzingis didn't want to help off him otherwise he was wetting the bed outside the paint.

So I'm an idiot cause u named 1 play? I've never spoken to you on here before, but don't be a dick dude. No need for that... He may have missed him on 1 possession but what I said is still accurate.

This wasn't Kawhi's best game, no one was in rhythm down the stretch.

[SAGirl]

Danny had a good game at both ends. Manu had a good game. Kawhi had a very pedestrian game (for Kawhi) on the offensive end. That was due to his expending so much energy on D. But when Kawhi was out, Danny played Melo very well. I think there were minutes for Simmons in that stretch, especially with Patty being subpar - again. I also would like to have seen Pop give Boban a shot against Lopez. Tim couldn't do it tonight, and he only played 21 minutes. Pop clearly wanted this game, and he shortened his rotation to the vets.
Actually some of the minutes Simmons got would have in the past been Patty minutes. There was a lineup in the bench with Jerian Grant and Galloway, both quick PG. In the past that would have been Patty and he only played 15 minutes, he could have given 6-8 more easy. Pop staying with Simms shows some trust. Like I said, I thought his minutes were fine, but they needed to look for him more to make plays and didn't. His role won't be amplified this season. It is what it is.

I do think Pop needs to reconsider testing Boban. Tim has been struggling against quality bigs regularly, and when he does, we are in trouble. He already does so much defensively and his passing opens up opportunitites for others. D.West played really well next to LMA so I can't fault Pop's call either. We'll see with Boban. All may not be written yet on him.

[cjw]

Puck Frinceton

Go Penn

But now Tommy Amaker has their league on lockdown

[sasaint]

I have noticed several off games by Tim already this season. He's looked very poor against athletic or talented bigs, and when he does the team struggles. Off the top of my head, games we were close or lost, Tim didn't have a good game and we had to minimize his minutes.

All the more reason to test the water with Boban. Porzingis was not Tim's cover. Lopez was. For a good part of the 4th, Kawhi was on Porzingis, and Danny was on Melo. Those 3 Spurs plus Tony/Manu and LMA/Boris/West was a lineup that begged.

[bklynspursfan]

This is a problem if the only guy who can really score in crunch time in Tony Parker. LMA just doesn't have the moves to do so. Leonard has trouble against longer opponents.

Eh, Tony has been solid overall. It's a luxury to have several guys who can step up. It's been LMA, Kawhi, TP, Manu, Bobo, etc at different times.

Parker happened to have Calderon on him, he won't have that kind of mismatch often. It was the right time for him to attack, and why he got more mins than Mills tonight

[Chinook]

Go Penn

But now Tommy Amaker has their league on lockdown

Penn was the cream of the conference right up until the year I went there. Then Lin came about, Miller moved on, and I never got be root for a Tournament team.

:cry we still have squash tho :cry (... don't we?)

[bklynspursfan]

Yea, Tony made the right decisions at the end. Pop had already called for plays for LMA and Kawhi and they didn't get it done. It was actually Manu coming in and Tony pouring in a few buckets. He picked his spots well in this one I thought. Everyone got shots and opportunities at the end and yes, Tony had the most favorable match up and he was rested.

Exactly.. it can be any one on any given night asked to take us home. Most times its Kawhi, and rightfully so. But if doesn't have it going , other guys have to step up

[sasaint]

When you look at all the factors the Spurs controlled tonight, you'd think they would have won fairly easily.

Total rebounds S-49 NY-44
Offensive Rebounds S-12 NY-10
Points in the Paint S-60 NY-33
Turnovers S-8 NY-8 (any time the Spurs are under 10 turnovers, its usually a solid win)
FG% S-44.1% NY-41.8%

So what kept the Knicks in this game? It's pretty simple, when you look at the box:

The Knicks shot a ridiculous (for them) percentage from the 3P line. The Knicks are 23rd in the league, and average 33.7% from the arc. Tonight they shot 43%.
Kawhi took 4 FT's to Carmello's 10. (18 FGA for Kawhi, compared to 15 FGA for Melo.) Right calls, or wrong, the whistles were a big factor in the game.

Seems like you can be counted on to muddy the clear waters of emotional discourse with facts.

:toast

[SAGirl]

When you look at all the factors the Spurs controlled tonight, you'd think they would have won fairly easily.

Total rebounds S-49 NY-44
Offensive Rebounds S-12 NY-10
Points in the Paint S-60 NY-33
Turnovers S-8 NY-8 (any time the Spurs are under 10 turnovers, its usually a solid win)
FG% S-44.1% NY-41.8%

So what kept the Knicks in this game? It's pretty simple, when you look at the box:

The Knicks shot a ridiculous (for them) percentage from the 3P line. The Knicks are 23rd in the league, and average 33.7% from the arc. Tonight they shot 43%.
Kawhi took 4 FT's to Carmello's 10. (18 FGA for Kawhi, compared to 15 FGA for Melo.) Right calls, or wrong, the whistles were a big factor in the game.
I looked it up. 3 pt shooting was a factor in this game, and we had been defending the 3 really well, except against PF that shoot 3s.

Ryan Anderson anyone? Teletovich?

Pop will be specially upset with the lack of defense on the 3, they made some contested ones, but there were a few that were open. the ones Carmelo hit were open, so were Porzingods. Our bench really didn't have the 3 rolling tonight. Knicks defended our 3s well. I even thought the one Tony took was not an open look for him.

[cjw]

Penn was the cream of the conference right up until the year I went there. Then Lin came about, Miller moved on, and I never got be root for a Tournament team.

:cry we still have squash tho :cry (... don't we?)

At least I had one year with Onyekwe and Archibong when they got an 11 seed and lost to Tony Allen's OSU team. Melo played in the first game that day in Boston to kick off his title run.

Went to the tournament three of my four years there, the last year being up at the half on LMA's Texas squad with Ibby. Then it was all downhill.

Pales in comparison to people who went in 70s and saw a Final Four or two other Elite Eights.

Miller inherited Dunphy's team and his recruits never panned out. But hell of a game coach, was the tactician on Napier's UConn title team.

[BatManu20]

Bunch of whiny bitches.

"oh, these blow out games are boring"

Spurs win a close game against a team on a 5 game winning streak.

"what a shitty 2nd round fodder team. parker hero balling fagg*t"

Welcome to ST.

[BatManu20]

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[SupremeGuy]

I remember that shit. He's already a better player than that scrub ever was.I know man. Fuck I'm old cause I remember Fatmelo tearing it at Syracuse. That was a crazy draft. I thought Lebron, with all that fucking pressure, would blow. But goddamn he shut me up.

lolz and that asshole that went 2 got a ring before Lebron.. fucking pistons

[rasuo214]

People bitching about a close win against the Knicks and I turn on my tv and OKC is struggling against the Lakers. I wonder if they have fans who think they're 1st round fodder...

[SpursIndonesia]

I actually remember Arvydas Sabonis in '86. That is a much better comparison.

Sabas can kill you on the block at his peak, he's around 290-300 lbs pure muscle, a Boban with O'Nealesque athleticism. He is a true big man in every sense.

I don't think as good as Porzingod is, he will ever be that menacing, physical monster on the block like the great Lithuanian truly was. Just doesn't have the body build type to be one, but he still is gonna kill you in a variety of ways, and actually faster on the perimeter.

[TampaDude]

Fuck the Knicks! GO SPURS GO!

[sasaint]

Sabas can kill you on the block at his peak, he's around 290-300 lbs pure muscle, a Boban with O'Nealesque athleticism. He is a true big man in every sense.

I don't think as good as Porzingod is, he will ever be that menacing, physical monster on the block like the great Lithuanian truly was. Just doesn't have the body build type to be one, but he still is gonna kill you in a variety of ways, and actually faster on the perimeter.

Sabonis was not 290-300 at his peak. Nor was his game limited to being a beast on the block. He was astonishingly athletic especially by comparison to the bigs in the NBA at the time. He reached weight long after his prime when he was playing for the Blazers.

[SAGirl]

Sabas can kill you on the block at his peak, he's around 290-300 lbs pure muscle, a Boban with O'Nealesque athleticism. He is a true big man in every sense.

I don't think as good as Porzingod is, he will ever be that menacing, physical monster on the block like the great Lithuanian truly was. Just doesn't have the body build type to be one, but he still is gonna kill you in a variety of ways, and actually faster on the perimeter.
He dribbles from the perimeter like a SF. He doesn't need to post up big guys when he's moving around them and getting where he wants to go.

[BillMc]

:flag:

Victory!

[UNT Eagles 2016]

And you still have a "my room"?

I was PCSing when I was 22 after a 4 year tour. You're up in your room hating the world on your guitar.

Only over Christmas break when I'm back home with family. When it's the school semester I have an apartment up in Denton. It's simple.

[dabom]

Sup Bill. :flag:

[BillMc]

Sup Bill. :flag:

Not much. Overslept so had to watch the game on ILP while avoid seeing the scores. Happy to see us eek out a victory. :flag:

[SpursIndonesia]

Sabonis was not 290-300 at his peak. Nor was his game limited to being a beast on the block. He was astonishingly athletic especially by comparison to the bigs in the NBA at the time. He reached weight long after his prime when he was playing for the Blazers.

Well, Blazer's Sabonis weight was more than 300 lbs for sure, not any smaller compared to 330-350 lbs peak Shaq. He was very athletic but i don't think he could have ever matched the quickness & agility of PorzinGOD already on the perimeter. Exactly my point that they can't really be compared since playing a different spot & game, though their skills indeed overlap here & there.

[SpursIndonesia]

He dribbles from the perimeter like a SF. He doesn't need to post up big guys when he's moving around them and getting where he wants to go.

A rookie Duncan sometimes played at SF spot too when he was playing alongside DRob & Perdue and his dribbling skill was solid, doesn't mean he was ever designed to be a perimeter player in the future. Like early years Nowitzki, has enough speed & handle to beat opponent bigs from perimeter, with deadly outside shooting to open up the opportunities for it. Nowitzki played post up fade away jumper later in his career IIRC.

[Chinook]

At least I had one year with Onyekwe and Archibong when they got an 11 seed and lost to Tony Allen's OSU team. Melo played in the first game that day in Boston to kick off his title run.

Went to the tournament three of my four years there, the last year being up at the half on LMA's Texas squad with Ibby. Then it was all downhill.

Pales in comparison to people who went in 70s and saw a Final Four or two other Elite Eights.

Miller inherited Dunphy's team and his recruits never panned out. But hell of a game coach, was the tactician on Napier's UConn title team.

When I was there for my visit, the guy giving the presentation ended his speech by asking us to root for Penn vs A&M in the tourney. I grew up an Aggies fan, so I was like, "Yeah, right." Had no idea that I was so easily rooting against my future school.

[BatManu20]

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[ceperez]

People bitching about a close win against the Knicks and I turn on my tv and OKC is struggling against the Lakers. I wonder if they have fans who think they're 1st round fodder...

Dude... the Knicks look pretty good... the front like of Lopez, Prozingis and Anthony are pretty formidable. You also got Affalo and Calderon as guards.

WTF... It's like a Hispanic All Star team with the exception of the Latvian!

[ceperez]

I looked it up. 3 pt shooting was a factor in this game, and we had been defending the 3 really well, except against PF that shoot 3s.

Ryan Anderson anyone? Teletovich?

Pop will be specially upset with the lack of defense on the 3, they made some contested ones, but there were a few that were open. the ones Carmelo hit were open, so were Porzingods. Our bench really didn't have the 3 rolling tonight. Knicks defended our 3s well. I even thought the one Tony took was not an open look for him.

Porzingis at 7'3" shooting the 3 is unstoppable. The only thing more unstoppable is 7'5" Boban shooting the 3.

[SAGirl]

Porzingis at 7'3" shooting the 3 is unstoppable. The only thing more unstoppable is 7'5" Boban shooting the 3.
It will not be blocked, but you can cloud his vision.
The PnP with Porzingis will be a terror for teams. Reminds me of Nowitzki in that aspect.

[ace3g]

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[spurs10]

Great pics ace3g! Thanks!

[ace3g]

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