Game Thread: Spurs @ Warriors -- Mon. (1/25) - 9:30PM CST (5:30AM Riga Time)

[Spurtacular]

Put in Corpse McCallum. We can't afford to have any real players injured in garbage time.

[spurs10]

If LMA came here to win he needs to pull his own weight! No team with play like that is winning.

[steeledl]

Seen enough of Boban to realize he should never touch the floor vs this team. He should be in street clothes not Bonner.

Only idiots thought that he should....

[Nathan89]

Boban too slow for Dubs, match up is not for him. Only Dub he can match up with is Bogut

Even with Bogut the other player are too fast to have him out there.

[Capt Bringdown]

This loss isn't about Curry, fuck that little twink.
No, it really is. Put down the haterade

[sasaint]

Boban too slow for Dubs, match up is not for him. Only Dub he can match up with is Bogut

True. That is why we should have considered starting him.

[NASpurs]

These hyped games never live up to the billing. I knew it was going to be ugly one way or another. The Spurs fan in me was hoping for a close game though.

[SPURt]

Ray McCallum is about to come in and go 2009 Kings on the Warriors.

[HI-FI]

This loss isn't about Curry, fuck that little twink. This is about wild-ass turnovers, discombobulation on offense and lack of physicality. It's just one game. The Spurs came out playing with banana peels on their shoes and they never got any traction. When that happens, you get your ass kicked.

I'm convinced Pop hates Danny Green and is flat out fed up with him. Why the fuck is Manu even in the game at this point?

Spurs will be fine.
I hope you're right.

and :lol twink. good description of that bitch Curry.

[LakerHater]

Sending a message to the Spurs

What, No bench?

[sasaint]

QUESTION: What is the worst beat down in Spurs history?

[BillMc]

:yield:yield:yield:yield:yield

http://i.imgur.com/zhnEQHJ.png

It kind of reminds me of some of the beat down the Lakers gave us in 2001 and 2002 in the playoffs. They seemed on another level.

But then 2003 came around. Things can change.

[$pursDynasty]

Seen enough of Boban to realize he should never touch the floor vs this team. He should be in street clothes not Bonner.
This

[100%duncan]

No I'm talking about the Spurs relying on Manu too much tonight.

I know. Just saying

[DarrinS]

Meh - The Warriors are the best/better team - by far.

In this RS game, yes

[steeledl]

I wish someone would trade us for Danny Green

[r0drig0lac]

In this RS game, yes

wow

[Mnky]

Boban was playing 1v3 ball there. :lol

[NASpurs]

Spurs homers who were downplaying the Warriors...... Crow thread?

Holy fuck this twat is annoying.

[spurtech09]

Boban got fouled like 5 times lol

[LakerHater]

:lol Danny Green playin in these trash mins!

[Nathan89]

Only idiots thought that he should....

I didn't think he should but seeing it just magnified how slow he is. He's making Speights look like Chris fucking Bosh.

[SAGirl]

BOBAN!
I like this pace with this group.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Time for garbage ball AKA Simmons and Marjanovic development time

[01Snake]

Was expecting a loss tonight but it still sucks to get completely destroyed.

[SAGirl]

Boban got fouled like 5 times lol
Yea I saw that... practically they have to jump on his back for it get to called lol

[2centsworth]

Way better version of the Suns. Gonna be real tough to beat

[TheGreatYacht]

Kyle hasn't passed all season in garbage time. Fucking faggot... Let him open for three when it matters and he will though

[FaM0us Skins]

:lol Danny Green playin in these trash mins!
:lol

[spurtech09]

Spurs missed a lot of open shots tonight......Spurs were very shaky tonight.....

[Ginobili3]

Green make some fucking 3s

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Bricks! Bricks and boulders everywhere!

[steeledl]

Could we get a backup point guard for Mills and Green tbh?

[99 Problems]

Boban looking like MJ. Something to cheer about at last.

[Spurtacular]

Give me:

1 - Corpse
2 - Green
3 - KA or Simmons
4 - Bonner
5 - Boban

[LakerHater]

Tim is gonna have Coach Pop fired, ala LeBitch

[SAGirl]

QUESTION: What is the worst beat down in Spurs history?
I haven't been following the team long enough to know that.

[sasaint]

It kind of reminds me of some of the beat down the Lakers gave us in 2001 and 2002 in the playoffs. They seemed on another level.

But then 2003 came around. Things can change.

Except I hate the Dubs more than I hated the Lake Show.

[ViceCity86]

We need Curry or Draymond to get injured to win it all

[SAGirl]

Tim is gonna have Coach Pop fired, ala LeBitch
:lmao
Mr. lakerHater, at least you made me burst out laughing... quite a feat with this game.

[HI-FI]

I picked the wrong day to give up Norco.

[SAGirl]

Well Danny getting demoted, for those who wanted Simmons.

[LakerHater]

:lmao
Mr. lakerHater, at least you made me burst out laughing... quite a feat with this game.

youre still watchin?

[BillMc]

Tim is gonna have Coach Pop fired, ala LeBitch

Becky will be coaching us by Houston.

[DarrinS]

TO and missed shots. It's just basketball. Not worried.

[afireinside20]

Spurs just didn't show up and Warriors did. The passes, shots, calls and energy from they're crowd lifting them up. I expect the Spurs to come out ready for the next matchup over here at home. Our crowd will be fired up, the shots will be falling better, and the intangibles will go in our favor. Next game will be a big win for the Spurs!

[spurtech09]

warriors only good players are curry and Klay Thompson....So why do they look so unstoppable....Playing as a team.....Warriors are overrated

[NASpurs]

3 times this season a poster has interrupted my Game Thread winning-streak, and all 3 times we lost that game. But.. Here's to hoping SpurPadre (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=29323) breaks the streak tonight. You have my blessing :lol :toast. Have fun at the game my dude.

OP should be tarred, feathered, pinked and ridiculed constantly.

[tmtcsc]

Spurs homers who were downplaying the Warriors...... Crow thread?

Fuck no. Nothing has changed my mind. Spurs will beat the Warriors in the playoffs. They'll get their shit back together and this game will be forgotten. This is 1 of 82 and their are 3 left against them this season. These are all opportunities to get better and learn what works and what doesn't. Unfortunately, this was game was a total waste with all the turnovers.

We know what to expect from West though. Dude will show up and play big in the big games. Simmons needs more floor time too.

[Nathan89]

Boban shouldn't be brought back as anything other than a 5th big.

[Uriel]

:lol @ people sayng Duncan missing the game won't have an impact. He's #1 in the NBA in defensive real-plus minus and remains the anchor of our defense on the interior.

His absence not only takes away a lot of luster from arguably the most anticipated regular season game in NBA history, it also virtually guarantees a Spurs loss.
:wakeup

[Pauleta14]

Looks to me that Kerr's idea was to run run run all game long...

Good move tbh, we don't have the personnel to do it 48min

[Spurtacular]

I picked the wrong day to give up Norco.

The only Norco I know is a town in California.

[sasaint]

warriors only good players are curry and Klay Thompson....So why do they look so unstoppable....Playing as a team.....Warriors are overrated

By those same standards the Spurs have been overrated every season they won a championship.

[Spurtacular]

Even our blocks are f'ing stupid. LMA and Butler just giving the ball back instead of playing smart.

[G-Dawgg]

The garbage time crew look so much more relaxed and poised..

[99 Problems]

23 turnovers.

[Darius Bieber]

Lol at people not worrying. This Spurs team is not elite. Just got embarrassed by playing like they were scared. An elite team should not be scared. Gonna get swept in the playoffs.

[$pursDynasty]

Ah I was blaming the refs but SpurPadre starting the game thread will do

[Silver&Black]

OP should be tarred, feathered, pinked and ridiculed constantly.

Agreed. Don't know if that's enough though. Got anything else to add?

[DarrinS]

warriors only good players are curry and Klay Thompson....So why do they look so unstoppable....Playing as a team.....Warriors are overrated

They're not overrated at all. They are the defending champs and played like it.

[sasaint]

Spurs just didn't show up and Warriors did. The passes, shots, calls and energy from they're crowd lifting them up. I expect the Spurs to come out ready for the next matchup over here at home. Our crowd will be fired up, the shots will be falling better, and the intangibles will go in our favor. Next game will be a big win for the Spurs!

Were you watching LMA at all tonight?

[NASpurs]

:wakeup

You want a cookie?

[SAGirl]

youre still watchin?
I have to be fair to my team. I like watching Boban and Anderson TBH.
We better get ready when our vets retire, we might go through a period looking like this.
You have to find some joy in watching young guys develop or will have to bandwagon with a new team.

[r0drig0lac]

warriors only good players are curry and Klay Thompson....So why do they look so unstoppable....Playing as a team.....Warriors are overrated

wtf, who are the good spurs players??

[Pauleta14]

23 turnovers.

17 for the Dubs.

TO's are NOT THE REASON...

Composure and will are the 2 main reason imo (and Curry of course)

[NASpurs]

Agreed. Don't know if that's enough though. Got anything else to add?

Sodomized with a rusty pipe that's covered in dog shit?

[tmtcsc]

What the fuck is that thing on Speights' head?

[Nathan89]

17 for the Dubs.

TO's are NOT THE REASON...

Not all turnovers are created equal.

[RD2191]

Lol at people not worrying. This Spurs team is not elite. Just got embarrassed by playing like they were scared. An elite team should not be scared. Gonna get swept in the playoffs.

Darius Bieb spitting truth per usual.

[Kawhitstorm]

Rasual: +8:wow

[NASpurs]

What the fuck is that thing on Speights' head?

His brains are oozing out.

[Nathan89]

It's not only turnovers though. They fucking bullied us in every way possible.

[SAGirl]

Boban reverse Jam

[SAGirl]

Kyle that shot right there, that is what you have to look for in games really

[tmtcsc]

Livingston came to play tonight for the W's. He took advantage of his matchups.

[afireinside20]

Were you watching LMA at all tonight?
Yea i saw him play tonight, and he played like shit. As goes for the rest of the team. Lamarcus is a great player, he will bounce back and be ready for Round 2 with the Warriors.

[LakerHater]

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=media%2Fgettyphoto%2F2016%5C01%5C25%5C506783 308.jpg&w=715&h=481

Kawhi will remember

[Nathan89]

Rasual: +8:wow

Should get all of KA's minutes from here on out. He needs to provide the shooting when we have to yank Patty Mills.

[timtonymanu]

Lol the clowns that said Boban was better than Splitter

[Uriel]

List of Excuses for Losing:
1. Duncan was out
2. The Spurs were playing only their 3rd game in 8 nights so they were out-of-rhythm
3. The game was held in Golden State in front of a fired up crowd
Bonus: Pop didn't give a fuck and almost seemed like he wanted to lose this game.

[LakerHater]

stupid ray :lol

[NASpurs]

I hope the Spurs are embarrassed. No one beats a Spurs team that took one on the chin. CIA Pop throwing the game.

[$pursDynasty]

Danny having to work in garbage time, while Simmons gets to rest

[Silver&Black]

Sodomized with a rusty pipe that's covered in dog shit?

I'll allow it...

Spur Padre is good people, but his thread making privileges have been revoked. He's not even ITT at the moment. Thread starter has quit on us.

In BatManu20 we trust

[Pauleta14]

Not all turnovers are created equal.

I know, but we were still -6 after our worst TOs of the 1st half...

again, composure and will are the 2 main reasons imo (and Curry of course)

[james evans]

I don't like this gambling defense. I said some weeks ago, we can't play this team as we play others. We just can't gamble and leave others open. Parker is gonna have to become a man this year. Leonard can't guard his assignment and parker's

[BillMc]

Can't remember this many turnovers.

[BillMc]

I'll allow it...

Spur Padre is good people, but his thread making privileges have been revoked. He's not even ITT at the moment. Thread starter has quit on us.

In BatManu20 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33095) we trust

+1

[SAGirl]

It's not only turnovers though. They fucking bullied us in every way possible.
It puts the Cavs and Bulls in a new light.
We can't beat this team. Not like this, not playing their game, not turning the ball over, and not playing like we are some scared babies. We have to push right back.
This is going to be a fight. I don't know if LMA has it TBH.

[sasaint]

17 for the Dubs.

TO's are NOT THE REASON...

Composure and will are the 2 main reason imo (and Curry of course)

All of the above. Our turnovers came early and got them out of the gate fast. Ours were primarily live ball turnovers. Their turnovers were not live ball turnovers and many came when the game was decided. Type and timing of turnovers was a big difference. Mainly we played like we were their scared little brother.

[SAGirl]

Danny having to work in garbage time, while Simmons gets to rest
I noticed that long time ago...
Maybe Pop saving Danny secret weapon.
:pop:
I don't think that at all.
To me, Simmons showed balls tonight at a time Pop was looking for it, and Pop just rewarded his effort. Also time for him to develop, he was playing when guys were attempting a come back.

[LakerHater]

Kawhi & West the only Spurs in double figures!

Spurs have 26 Turnovers givin GSW 30 points!

[Silver&Black]

:wow Boogie dropping 56 on dem bitches tonight...

[sasaint]

It puts the Cavs and Bulls in a new light.
We can't beat this team. Not like this, not playing their game, not turning the ball over, and not playing like we are some scared babies. We have to push right back.
This is going to be a fight. I don't know if LMA has it TBH.

I have been wrong all season. We DO need to pair LMA and Boris, bringing them off the bench. A lot of people may end up owing apologies to ceperez! :lol

[tmtcsc]

This Spurs team is not elite. Just got embarrassed by playing like they were scared. An elite team should not be scared.

The league is awful this year. Its the Spurs and Warriors and no one else. Terrible game by the Spurs tonight for sure but this isn't game, set and match. Fucking ridiculous to believe the Spurs will get swept in the playoffs.

[wingster]

Had a feeling we would lose this game..not this badly mind you but we haven't hit our peak yet. The Warriors have at the wrong time. It's January.

[Spurtacular]

Corpse missing the point blank lay-up.

[Silver&Black]

Hurry the fuck up so I can post the final boxscore and go to bed...

[Spurtacular]

Had a feeling we would lose this game..not this badly mind you but we haven't hit our peak yet. The Warriors have at the wrong time. It's January.

Spurs played so terrible. I think they'll rise from the ashes; but they should hang their heads in shame for now.

[SAGirl]

We might have been better off playing Boban early.
Boban showing cojones TBH. 4-5 guys over him.
This guy has impressed me. Yea mistakes but what do we expect he's a rookie.

[sasaint]

Had a feeling we would lose this game..not this badly mind you but we haven't hit our peak yet. The Warriors have at the wrong time. It's January.

I do now t that no the Dubs have raked - they have plateaued. And it is at an altitude way above everybody else.

[r0drig0lac]

Had a feeling we would lose this game..not this badly mind you but we haven't hit our peak yet. The Warriors have at the wrong time. It's January.

It would have been nice just one defeat today

[LakerHater]

Now they fuckin round... speights hittin 3s!

[SAGirl]

Boban showing the dominance in the paint Pop wanted

[SAGirl]

Wow, Boban wasn't going to let this beatdown be of epic proportions.

[The Reckoning]

pop gave no fucks this game tbh. all the rotations and assignments were roulette. why give up your game plan in january?

[Silver&Black]

Got donkey punched tonight. Lost by 30....120-90.

:flag:

Burn the tape IMO.

http://i.imgur.com/uPuwCrP.png

[sasaint]

Boban showing the dominance in the paint Pop wanted

LMA didn't. Nor do I believe he will going forward.

[BillMc]

Well, I'll get more work done tomorrow. Always do after a loss. :wow

[SPURt]

Boban with 12 and 6 in 13 min. No way he could hang with GSW main unit with his lack of speed

[tmtcsc]

The shittiest thing about tonight, besides the "L" was that the Spurs didn't show up. This wasn't a good game, wasn't competitive and the Spurs learned close to nothing. Failure can lead to success but the Spurs were so awful there was very little to take away from it.

[NASpurs]

Got donkey punched tonight. Lost by 30....120-90.

:flag:

Burn the tape IMO.

http://i.imgur.com/uPuwCrP.png

25 TOs to 31 fgs :lol

Moving on.

[still.focused]

Aldridge owes us some money
Kyle Anderson still sucks
Tony Parker is useless against GSW

[ceperez]

I have been wrong all season. We DO need to pair LMA and Boris, bringing them off the bench. A lot of people may end up owing apologies to ceperez! :lol

Well, Spurs need to lose badly to shake up their over confidence against other teams.

Spurs need to have lineups that matchup against GS.

[Silver&Black]

Spurs starters:

10 AST
11 Turnovers

[TheMulletMan3000]

http://4.kicksonfire.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/MJ-Computer-Meme.jpg?feae65

[BillMc]

Hey, even the 96 Bulls got blown out by the Knicks one game during the regular season. 1 game is just 1 game.

[Silver&Black]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vLOAoksNY1Q/URFUvHAoV6I/AAAAAAAAJXE/ebJVVqBVqKE/s1600/not-like-this.gif

[TheMulletMan3000]

Well, I'll get more work done tomorrow. Always do after a loss. :wow

Me too!

[KenziE]

Corpse missing the point blank lay-up.

Who the fuck is Corpse

[SAGirl]

I have been wrong all season. We DO need to pair LMA and Boris, bringing them off the bench. A lot of people may end up owing apologies to ceperez! :lol

sasaint, I have not been in agreement with ceperez bc he saw the signs early, but I never ridiculed him.
Boban showed me more tonight than LMA. Simmons played with heart. Even Anderson. Mistakes yes, but what do we expect, at least theirs is justified. Simmons/Boban are rookies... Anderson might as well be bc he also hadn't played a game like this and he is out of the rotation at this point.

I thought Pop should have thrown the towel earlier, bc Manu was there taking hard fouls when the game was already over, but I thought Pop was gathering sufficient film before throwing out the garbage time crew.

[sasaint]

Well, Spurs need to lose badly to shake up their over confidence against other teams.

Spurs need to have lineups that matchup against GS.

This was a game made for LMA to really show some moxy and leadership. He wilted horribly.

[james evans]

I really hope popovich talks some shit and gets fined to force the officials to call illegal picks. Green does this thing when he sets a pick by sticking his butt out bumbing the defender and bogut just doesn't give a fuck. The 3 curry hit on leonard , bogut moved on the screen. Maybe we need an owner like Mark Cuban to call some shit out to get noticed haha

[BillMc]

:wow Boogie dropping 56 on dem bitches tonight...

Actually , my previous response made no sense. I need sleep. 8 AM here

[Spurs9]

Can we trade parker for kimba?

[rasuo214]

I know people are loving Simmons but honestly I'm not that impressed, yes he's more athletic and aggressive than Danny but his defense is a sizable step down. Our PGs are also a huge liability defensively against the Warriors. Which maybe we could live with if they were offsetting it offensively but both were no-shows. Pop either needs to not play them or stop helping them and just live with the results.

Not sure why Pop went small ball. I would have liked to see a big lineup like Manu/Danny/Kawhi/West/LMA or Simmons/Danny/Kawhi/West/LMA. Pop needs to also stop trying to force the LMA postup. He should have kept going to Kawhi until the Warriors adjusted, but maybe Pop is saving it after seeing how effective it was (at least I hope that's the case).

There are plenty of adjustments to be made. Also can't afford to give up that many turnovers.

[TheDoctor]

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[Pauleta14]

Hey, even the 96 Bulls got blown out by the Knicks one game during the regular season. 1 game is just 1 game.

I also suspect Pop isn't completely unhappy about the loss/blow out, helps re focus and keep improving...

We were blowing out everybody only because of the weakness of the league.

If we could find a reliable 3pts shooter tho...

[SAGirl]

Burn the tape IMO.

Can't burn the tape. Some guys need to grow a pair. This is the tape that will build character.

Remember how we started the championship season watching the tape of game 6 and 7... Pop is like that. After a while, he thought ok you guys going to play like this... this is the learning tape!!!!
:pop:

[024]

Excited to see the meltdown here when the Spurs get blown out.
:corn:

[Mugen]

Missed the game. How did we do tbh?

[rasuo214]

The shittiest thing about tonight, besides the "L" was that the Spurs didn't show up. This wasn't a good game, wasn't competitive and the Spurs learned close to nothing. Failure can lead to success but the Spurs were so awful there was very little to take away from it.

There was plenty to learn from this game. I posted a few of them that stood out to me. Obviously the team still needs to play better otherwise it won't matter how many adjustments are made.

[HarlemHeat37]

I know people are loving Simmons but honestly I'm not that impressed, yes he's more athletic and aggressive than Danny but his defense is a sizable step down. Our PGs are also a huge liability defensively against the Warriors. Which maybe we could live with if they were offsetting it offensively but both were no-shows. Pop either needs to not play them or stop helping them and just live with the results.

Not sure why Pop went small ball. I would have liked to see a big lineup like Manu/Danny/Kawhi/West/LMA or Simmons/Danny/Kawhi/West/LMA. Pop needs to also stop trying to force the LMA postup. He should have kept going to Kawhi until the Warriors adjusted, but maybe Pop is saving it after seeing how effective it was (at least I hope that's the case).

There are plenty of adjustments to be made. Also can't afford to give up that many turnovers.

Simmons was pretty terrible after his nice 1st half stint, tbh..

He's a 10 MPG energy player..if you play him more than that, his flaws get exposed, which is what happened after the Warriors realized that dude is super-athletic and always looks to drive first..

[Silver&Black]

Missed the game. How did we do tbh?

:lol

[ceperez]

Spurs attempted 14 3 point attempts. Warriors attempted 26 3 point attempts.

Spurs aren't going to win if they play conservative ball while the other team is rolling the dice!

[Silver&Black]

Can't burn the tape. Some guys need to grow a pair. This is the tape that will build character.

Remember how we started the championship season watching the tape of game 6 and 7... Pop is like that. After a while, he thought ok you guys going to play like this... this is the learning tape!!!!
:pop:

I totally agree SAGirl. Just talking outta my ass tbh

[timtonymanu]

Missed the game. How did we do tbh?

Well, it was another blowout.

[BillMc]

Pop just said it was like "men playing boys" tonight. He said he'd have gotten fired if the GM was in the locker room.

Pop will have the team's full attention again.

[ViceCity86]

NBA TV is fucking awful.I come home wanting to watch pregame,they're showing shit games around the league.Wanting to watch post game stuff and they are showing Kings Hornets.LOL.

[Spurtacular]

Who the fuck is Corpse

Corpse McCallum

[$pursDynasty]

Exactly, watch the tape to see what NOT to do next time

[Spurtacular]

NBA TV is fucking awful.I come home wanting to watch pregame,they're showing shit games around the league.Wanting to watch post game stuff and they are showing Kings Hornets.LOL.

And in between, shitty GS announcers. It's a big bag of sh**.

[SAGirl]

Not sure why Pop went small ball. I would have liked to see a big lineup like Manu/Danny/Kawhi/West/LMA or Simmons/Danny/Kawhi/West/LMA. Pop needs to also stop trying to force the LMA postup. He should have kept going to Kawhi until the Warriors adjusted, but maybe Pop is saving it after seeing how effective it was (at least I hope that's the case).

There are plenty of adjustments to be made. Also can't afford to give up that many turnovers.

I think he saved stuff. For example, Danny was hot early, he made mistakes and Pop went to Simmons. All the Simmons time is development. He showed fire, so if you can polish that a bit, he will be useful. He wasn't intimidated by the situation and this team needs that, and soon Manu will retire and we will miss that fire.

I am hopeful like you that Kawhi post up was just being saved... specially bc the game was out of hand and Pop didn't want to show all his cards. I mean Kawhi only 6 shots?? What was that? Even Anderson who is one of the most reluctant and passive guys we have shot 9 times in 16 minutes. Kawhi did draw fouls but still.

[Pauleta14]

Pop will have the team's full attention again.

[LakerHater]

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[rasuo214]

Simmons was pretty terrible after his nice 1st half stint, tbh..

He's a 10 MPG energy player..if you play him more than that, his flaws get exposed, which is what happened after the Warriors realized that dude is super-athletic and always looks to drive first..


Yea I view Simmons similar to a change of pace type back in football. Green still needs to be the starter for his defense alone, especially against GSW.

[NASpurs]

Can't burn the tape. Some guys need to grow a pair. This is the tape that will build character.

Remember how we started the championship season watching the tape of game 6 and 7... Pop is like that. After a while, he thought ok you guys going to play like this... this is the learning tape!!!!
:pop:

That's what I gathered as well after seeing him stopped coaching in the second half. Nothing conjures up fire in the belly and motivation like taking one on the chin. I'm sure Pop will use the tape of this game for something like that in the future.

[sasaint]

sasaint, I have not been in agreement with ceperez bc he saw the signs early, but I never ridiculed him.
Boban showed me more tonight than LMA. Simmons played with heart. Even Anderson. Mistakes yes, but what do we expect, at least theirs is justified. Simmons/Boban are rookies... Anderson might as well be bc he also hadn't played a game like this and he is out of the rotation at this point.

I thought Pop should have thrown the towel earlier, bc Manu was there taking hard fouls when the game was already over, but I thought Pop was gathering sufficient film before throwing out the garbage time crew.

I didn't say you may end up owing him an apology. I don't know what Pop was doing this game. It's virtually impossible to see what he had in mind when things spiraled out of control so fast. I didn't like LMA taking a 3 for our first shot of the game. My first question was whether Pop's plan was to try to match their tempo (surely not!), or whether the guys on the floor just got too carried away and totally neglected Pop's plan? Then later, rather than throwing in the towel, first try some Boban early. And going forward, Butler needs court time. He might have helped early on in this game. it looks to me like both Simmons AND Butler should get Danny's minutes. Simmons needed even more time tonight. A lot of people saw this game as more reason to hate on Kyle. I actually liked his play better than most of our guys. Most of our guys were boys playing against men, as Pop just said in his postgame interview.

[Silver&Black]

Actually , my previous response made no sense. I need sleep. 8 AM here

No worries. Get some sleep my nigga.

[SAGirl]

Pop just said it was like "men playing boys" tonight. He said he'd have gotten fired if the GM was in the locker room.

Pop will have the team's full attention again.
Quite not so subtle jab at the CAVS TBH. Pop not holding his tongue.
Carlisle was very public, Pop is like yea, this is a day I could have gotten fired too.
:lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

I noticed that long time ago...
Maybe Pop saving Danny secret weapon..

Danny should start the game on Curry (hide Tony on Barnes & let him chuck all he wants). Kawhi should just stick to Klay since he can't waste energy chasing Curry because he has to produce on offense. Plus, Manu on Livingston & Simmons on Iggy (since he isn't looking to score).

[LakerHater]

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[SAGirl]

I didn't say you may end up owing him an apology. I don't know what Pop was doing this game. It's virtually impossible to see what he had in mind when things spiraled out of control so fast. I didn't like LMA taking a 3 for our first shot of the game. My first question was whether Pop's plan was to try to match their tempo (surely not!), or whether the guys on the floor just got too carried away and totally neglected Pop's plan? Then later, rather than throwing in the towel, first try some Boban early. And going forward, Butler needs court time. He might have helped early on in this game. it looks to me like both Simmons AND Butler should get Danny's minutes. Simmons needed even more time tonight. A lot of people saw this game as more reason to hate on Kyle. I actually liked his play better than most of our guys. Most of our guys were boys playing against men, as Pop just said in his postgame interview.
I agree... I was being a bit sarcastic in my first sentence, don't take it wrong, its so tough to transmit these things in writing.
The thing with Kyle is.. he's 22 and he's barely played. He's out of the rotation at this point. Pop doesn't even know what position he wants him to play and has played everything, everything for us from the 1-5. It is garbage time, but its not until recently that Pop has been giving him time as a 4. He's still a project very much, but in this game, he was still trying to make stuff happen, whatever, a deflection here or there, an offensive board. Considering how even our vets wilted, he showed courage.

Same with Simmons, Butler has been very solid from the very beginning of the season. He has simply not played bc Pop is developing Simmons and Anderson, and really at this point, Anderson only in garbage time or against weak teams. Butler is a vet and doesn't need garbage time to "develop." He's ready.

Is Danny a serious concern at this point? What do you think?

[Mugen]

Well, it was another blowout.

Hell yeah. :flag:

[rasuo214]

I think he saved stuff. For example, Danny was hot early, he made mistakes and Pop went to Simmons. All the Simmons time is development. He showed fire, so if you can polish that a bit, he will be useful. He wasn't intimidated by the situation and this team needs that, and soon Manu will retire and we will miss that fire.

I am hopeful like you that Kawhi post up was just being saved... specially bc the game was out of hand and Pop didn't want to show all his cards. I mean Kawhi only 6 shots?? What was that? Even Anderson who is one of the most reluctant and passive guys we have shot 9 times in 16 minutes. Kawhi did draw fouls but still.

The problem with Simmons is that while yes he shows fire and athleticism, he is also reckless and a step down defensively from Danny. If Pop wants to play Simmons I'd rather see him bench Parker or have him take some of Patty's minutes. Neither are a very good matchup against the Warriors because of their size. I also wouldn't mind seeing some Anderson play some Point Forward in a big lineup and see how it works.

As far as Kawhi's shots, I don't mind if he takes fewer shots if the team is taking advantage of a mismatch or they're exploiting double teams or if someone else is on a run, but I'm not a fan of ignoring him for long stretches when he's shown to be effective. I mean how many times have we seen Kawhi wide open under the rim calling for the ball and not getting it, or when he has a mismatch like Curry guarding him and not going to it imminently.

[SAGirl]

I didn't say you may end up owing him an apology. I don't know what Pop was doing this game. It's virtually impossible to see what he had in mind when things spiraled out of control so fast. I didn't like LMA taking a 3 for our first shot of the game. My first question was whether Pop's plan was to try to match their tempo (surely not!), or whether the guys on the floor just got too carried away and totally neglected Pop's plan? Then later, rather than throwing in the towel, first try some Boban early. And going forward, Butler needs court time. He might have helped early on in this game. it looks to me like both Simmons AND Butler should get Danny's minutes. Simmons needed even more time tonight. A lot of people saw this game as more reason to hate on Kyle. I actually liked his play better than most of our guys. Most of our guys were boys playing against men, as Pop just said in his postgame interview.
Just looked at the stat sheet.
Anderson outscored, outrebounded and got more assists, more steals and less TO than LMA.

[LakerHater]

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[sasaint]

I agree... I was being a bit sarcastic in my first sentence, don't take it wrong, its so tough to transmit these things in writing.
The thing with Kyle is.. he's 22 and he's barely played. He's out of the rotation at this point. Pop doesn't even know what position he wants him to play and has played everything, everything for us from the 1-5. It is garbage time, but its not until recently that Pop has been giving him time as a 4. He's still a project very much, but in this game, he was still trying to make stuff happen, whatever, a deflection here or there, an offensive board. Considering how even our vets wilted, he showed courage.

Same with Simmons, Butler has been very solid from the very beginning of the season. He has simply not played bc Pop is developing Simmons and Anderson, and really at this point, Anderson only in garbage time or against weak teams. Butler is a vet and doesn't need garbage time to "develop." He's ready.

Is Danny a serious concern at this point? What do you think?

Yes. Many want to see what Simmons could do in the starting lineup. Heck, I'd rather see Butler start a game. The three-ball threat we have been searching for MAY be the next-to-last guy on our own bench! I fear that Danny is done. Sit him for a while. Give him a sport coat and a couple of DNP-"rest" games.

[SAGirl]

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POP!!!
What a sense of humor. He must be a joy to be around behind the cameras.
Made me laugh.
Thanks for posting that LakerHater!!
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[LakerHater]

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[sasaint]

Just looked at the stat sheet.
Anderson outscored, outrebounded and got more assists, more steals and less TO than LMA.

I am not surprised. As you know, I have been holding my breath about LMA. To start the season, I was pleasantly surprised by his D. I have never been very impressed with his offensive game, but I've had a wait-and-see attitude. I have just about waited and seen enough. I was serious in my earlier post to you. If Tim can still walk, team him with West in the starting lineup and send LMA to the bench. I don't know if the guy has a fire to light, but if he does we need to figure out how to light it ASAP.

[BillMc]

Not a good night for...

LMA's All-Star Reserve Candidacy...

Tony's All-Star Reserve Candidacy...

Kawhi's DPOY Candidacy...

[Slime Baller]

Not a good night for...

LMA's All-Star Reserve Candidacy...

Tony's All-Star Reserve Candidacy...

Kawhi's DPOY Candidacy...

Add my liver to the list.

[SAGirl]

I am not surprised. As you know, I have been holding my breath about LMA. To start the season, I was pleasantly surprised by his D. I have never been very impressed with his offensive game, but I've had a wait-and-see attitude. I have just about waited and seen enough. I was serious in my earlier post to you. If Tim can still walk, team him with West in the starting lineup and send LMA to the bench. I don't know if the guy has a fire to light, but if he does we need to figure out how to light it ASAP.
I never took this seriously bc I thought the guy was coasting a bit against weak teams, but he really failed in this game, big time.
And I will do you one further. Since we have him signed and he's ours to keep unless he's traded and I don't think PATFO does that this season bc still a good record, just the one game, and ... beyond that... might be Timmy's and Manu's last, lets be honest. So they go with this group until the point they can go, next season is another tale.

So if we are keeping him, yea let's rock the boat a little bit. Let's in fact mix it up.

I will be honest.. Truth time:
I thought Danny/LMA/Kawhi made for too many guys jumbled together who can't pass the ball well. Danny/LMA specially, Kawhi much, much less, but he's not a talented passer either. He's adequate, lets just say, and the guy gets the ball very little, and when he gets it, most of the time you want him to shoot it, unless he's doubleteamed. That is Kawhi's game, but Danny/LMA are not very smart passers, and they are not a good fit together... specially since Tony is old and getting older, everything cannot revolve around Tony anymore, and Tim, he's in one leg and the other is sore.

Maybe yes, Simmons can help, maybe Rasual. They need more chemistry. There is a reason we are blowing out teams, and IT IS OUR BENCH, not our starters. I have been saying that a long time. On top of that Simmon/Anderson/Boban can be a core for a bench for any other team, just put two other guys around those 3. They can be the bench for any team TBH. That is why the blow out benches.

[BillMc]

LMA really seemed to miss the nice, high Duncan entry passes.

[SnakeBoy]

Missed the game. How did we do tbh?

Pretty good.

[SAGirl]

Not a good night for...

LMA's All-Star Reserve Candidacy...

Tony's All-Star Reserve Candidacy...

Kawhi's DPOY Candidacy...
You are right on all fronts.
And a good night for Curry MVP candidacy.

[sasaint]

I never took this seriously bc I thought the guy was coasting a bit against weak teams, but he really failed in this game, big time.
And I will do you one further. Since we have him signed and he's ours to keep unless he's traded and I don't think PATFO does that this season bc still a good record, just the one game, and ... beyond that... might be Timmy's and Manu's last, lets be honest. So they go with this group until the point they can go, next season is another tale.

So if we are keeping him, yea let's rock the boat a little bit. Let's in fact mix it up.

I will be honest.. Truth time:
I thought Danny/LMA/Kawhi made for too many guys jumbled together who can't pass the ball well. Danny/LMA specially, Kawhi much, much less, but he's not a talented passer either. He's adequate, lets just say, and the guy gets the ball very little, and when he gets it, most of the time you want him to shoot it, unless he's doubleteamed. That is Kawhi's game, but Danny/LMA are not very smart passers, and they are not a good fit together... specially since Tony is old and getting older, everything cannot revolve around Tony anymore, and Tim, he's in one leg and the other is sore.

Maybe yes, Simmons can help, maybe Rasual. They need more chemistry. There is a reason we are blowing out teams, and IT IS OUR BENCH, not our starters. I have been saying that a long time. On top of that Simmon/Anderson/Boban can be a core for a bench for any other team, just put two other guys around those 3. They can be the bench for any team TBH. That is why the blow out benches.

So, just for grins I say we should start Tim/West/Butler/Kawhi/Tony and see what happens. Second unit would be LMA/Boris/Simmons/Manu/Patty. Experimenting with Kawhi essentially at the 2 would increase size in the backcourt without giving up any speed. Kawhi is at least as fast as Danny and he is a better ball handler(!), and putting Rasual in at the 3 increases our size a little there. I think he is probably capable of playing adequate defense against most 3s. Plus, now we have two guys on the frontline that will not back down to anybody. LMA should be able to play soft and be very effective against about every 2nd unit in the league. Works, if Timmy can handle it - at least for this season. Just pray that he makes it through the season.

[BatManu20]

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[SpurPadre]

Back from the game. Worst live game I've ever been to by far. My bad, fellas. I fucked up BatManu20's mojo and I feel bad for it. Hang this one on me. I let you all down, tbh.

[james evans]

i say popovich threw that game. U know he hates winning streaks. But we can't afford for this shit to keep happening this season.

[BatManu20]

We're still #1 in Net-Rating, which is nice.

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[cjw]

Somehow the Spurs still have a better point differential (+13.5 vs. 12.5) and still control own destiny being down 3 games.

Not that it matters, but just shows how they've been rolling teams similar to how they were rolled tonight. This was the second game all season they didn't have a chance to win, and the first took Ryan Anderson morphing into Larry Bird.

[SAGirl]

So, just for grins I say we should start Tim/West/Butler/Kawhi/Tony and see what happens. Second unit would be LMA/Boris/Simmons/Manu/Patty. Experimenting with Kawhi essentially at the 2 would increase size in the backcourt without giving up any speed. Kawhi is at least as fast as Danny and he is a better ball handler(!), and putting Rasual in at the 3 increases our size a little there. I think he is probably capable of playing adequate defense against most 3s. Plus, now we have two guys on the frontline that will not back down to anybody. LMA should be able to play soft and be very effective against about every 2nd unit in the league. Works, if Timmy can handle it - at least for this season. Just pray that he makes it through the season.

I think the issue is that LMA is that he's a jumpshooting big. He's a good fit for guys who want to get inside the paint and if they get doubled then kick it to him. Pop wants to transform his game to play inside. I wonder if he's not a fit for what Pop wants like Rondo wasn't a fit for Carlisle system.

Considering how conservative with lineups Pop has been, if he makes an adjustment, the adjustment I could see is Simmons starting for Green, to test the waters. Then Danny/Butler in the bench.

Ultimately, we might not be able to compete with the Warriors. Diaw was an X-factor against OKC bc as much as Westbrook/Durant were a handful offensively, Ibaka was the one guy who threw our whole offense out of whack. Once Diaw challenged him, made him worry about him, took him to all places around the court, out of the paint and destroyed him with his passing, the rest of OKC we could deal with.

Offensively, I don't know who our nemesis is in GSW, who is the scary guy that is stalling our offense and who is going to be the Xfactor? Do you see us having anyone like that?

I think Boban can help. He was dominant.

[LakerHater]

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[DenialTwist]

What's even worse, they played horribly in front of Jay-Z and Beyonce. Even they expected this game to be competitive, why else would they show up to a regular season game in January. Drake looked bored too lol

[DenialTwist]

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[r0drig0lac]

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lmao excellent, differential point is useless

[DenialTwist]

So, just for grins I say we should start Tim/West/Butler/Kawhi/Tony and see what happens. Second unit would be LMA/Boris/Simmons/Manu/Patty. Experimenting with Kawhi essentially at the 2 would increase size in the backcourt without giving up any speed. Kawhi is at least as fast as Danny and he is a better ball handler(!), and putting Rasual in at the 3 increases our size a little there. I think he is probably capable of playing adequate defense against most 3s. Plus, now we have two guys on the frontline that will not back down to anybody. LMA should be able to play soft and be very effective against about every 2nd unit in the league. Works, if Timmy can handle it - at least for this season. Just pray that he makes it through the season.

Tony should not be starting, if you really want to make a change in the lineup. I think Tony will fare better off the bench against other team's second units.


I think he saved stuff. For example, Danny was hot early, he made mistakes and Pop went to Simmons. All the Simmons time is development. He showed fire, so if you can polish that a bit, he will be useful. He wasn't intimidated by the situation and this team needs that, and soon Manu will retire and we will miss that fire.

I am hopeful like you that Kawhi post up was just being saved... specially bc the game was out of hand and Pop didn't want to show all his cards. I mean Kawhi only 6 shots?? What was that? Even Anderson who is one of the most reluctant and passive guys we have shot 9 times in 16 minutes. Kawhi did draw fouls but still.

I don't think Pop is saving anything regarding Kawhi's post ups. Pop never runs the same play over and over even if it's successful. And even if you kept going to Kawhi, they would've adjusted. Kawhi is still getting used to being doubled and having all the defense focused on him. He needs to be more aggressive though. Spurs backcourt is really a glaring weakness. Ric Bucher said it postgame. Instead of San Antonio focusing on getting more wing defenders and shooters they were hell bent on getting LMA and West. They need more versatile defenders and three point shooters if they want to compete against GS. Hurts when Green still can't find his shot, Parker is a defensive liability and LMA is nowhere to be found. LMA looked so uncomfortable.

[Chillen]

No Duncan last night, and to beat the Warriors with Curry on fire like that you have to be able to put the ball in the basket. Spurs couldn't score a basket it seemed and those 20+ turnovers, the Warriors just turn it into free points. The defense for the Spurs also sucked last night, it was an ugly loss. Bad game from the Spurs, they could have and are capable of playing way better.

This Warriors team is just killing teams off these 3 point shots, Curry get's hot, Thompson sinks in a couple, they are running teams out of the gym with that hot shooting. Add to it they are a very good defensive team, it just equals into a tough team to beat.

Spurs have to bring their A game to beat the Warriors next time.

[99 Problems]

I had hope that maybe for the first time in a long time we could win this season without relying on TD to save our backsides. But it looks like we gunna need Tim as much as ever. Man we missed his elite D today. Credit to Warriors it was their day.

Think I saw lots of Heat bandwagoners from yesteryear amongst the crowd cheering on GSW. :lol

[Pauleta14]

Tony should not be starting, if you really want to make a change in the lineup. I think Tony will fare better off the bench against other team's second units.


So who do you start instead?

Patty has younger legs, but is scary on D, always gambling and Manu can't play too long...

[DenialTwist]

So who do you start instead?

Patty has younger legs, but is scary on D, always gambling and Manu can't play too long...

I'll still take Patty because he is a threat from three. I remember Zach Lowe mentioning this last season during the playoffs and I didn't agree with him because Parker was better at penetrating the paint and running the offense.
But Parker is even a step slower this season, he's a bigger problem for the spurs compared to Patty. TP doesn't have a jumper anymore and is a defensive liability. OKC and the Warriors know exactly how to exploit Parker, they go at him and score at will because they know he can't keep up. I mean look at the OKC game opening night, Waiters attacked him repeatedly.

[ace3g]

Was curious who Elliott was talking to pregame?

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[daslicer]

Was curious who Elliott was talking to pregame?



Her name is Rosalyn Gold-Onwude she is the warriors sideline reporter.

[Spurtacular]

Spurs were almost down by 4 at the end of the first; and then they just didn't buckle down. Later, when they pulled to 66-52, I thought they were a run away from making a game of it. But they double down on their poor play instead.

[TheGreatYacht]

3 times this season a poster has interrupted my Game Thread winning-streak, and all 3 times we lost that game. But.. Here's to hoping SpurPadre (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=29323) breaks the streak tonight. You have my blessing :lol :toast. Have fun at the game my dude.
Rockets game thread, tbh

[Capster]

OUCH that was an ass kicking. I am still bruding about the Spurs loss. How embarrassing!!

[TampaDude]

You can't turn the ball over that many times against a good team and expect to win.

Yeah, it was a blowout loss, but it still counts as just one game.

The Spurs will be fine.