Timmy Out for 1.25.16 at GST

[FromWayDowntown]

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[jon123spurs]

CIA POP

[Robz4000]

:lol Pop

[FromWayDowntown]

CIA POP

or Tim is really dealing with some right knee issues and needs rest to get whole.

My guess is that if it were a playoff game, he'd play; and I suspect he'll play later in the week, too. But there's little point at this juncture in pushing him to play, particularly in a game that will be difficult to win even at full strength. Very much the same theory that supported Pop's decision to punt in Miami a few years ago in order to give his team the best chance to win the home game that followed against Memphis.

[spursfaninla]

wow. that takes the edge off the game.

[Budkin]

Fuck!

[TheGreatYacht]

Boban better fucking start. This is all a big excuse to play the ginger, I just know it.

Watch from the 5:00-5:50 minute mark. That ginger POS is useless

http://youtu.be/3VcZCpjQJa8

[TheDoctor]

Pop just opened the pressure valve tbh.

[jyra]

Start Boban.

[spursistan]

I think it is legit thing..Really Timmy has labored for too many nights already this season despite the rest..

[EVAY]

I'm sorry that Timmy won't be playing. His leadership, if nothing else, is invaluable on the floor. We will miss his presence.

So, are assuming West or Boris to start?

[From Downtown]

Pop :lol

I doubt Tim would have played much anyway

[houston spurs fan]

I think it is legit thing..Really Timmy has labored for too many nights already this season despite the rest..
Agree. Something's wrong...

[Budkin]

We're not beating them without Timmy. Might as well rest Manu too.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Aren't the Spurs undefeated with David West starting?

Bummer about TD though..

[Kawhitstorm]

In any case, I didn't expect Tim to be on the floor more than 20 minutes b/c Curry would have just run a PnR w/ Bogut & toyed w/ him worse than 2013.

[Kawhitstorm]

Aren't the Spurs undefeated with David West starting?

Bummer about TD though..

West actually did okay guarding Melo/Bron/Millsap when he was w/ the Pacers & Vogel actually put him on Ray Allen during the playoffs:lol so he has experience playing against small-ball line-ups. We already know what Tim is capable of so I'm more interested in what Boban can do when Curry is off the floor.

[SupremeGuy]

CIA Pop.

[TheGreatYacht]

If they make Bonner beat them at Oracle.... We're fucked.

[NASpurs]

Good, I was worried about TD and how the Warriors were going to go at him on pick and rolls.

[Nathan89]

West stretching Bogut out should work quite well on offense. This doesn't change my interest in the game. I still think we can win.

Tim's health is my only concern.

[BatManu20]

Let's shock the world.

[SAGirl]

or Tim is really dealing with some right knee issues and needs rest to get whole.

My guess is that if it were a playoff game, he'd play; and I suspect he'll play later in the week, too. But there's little point at this juncture in pushing him to play, particularly in a game that will be difficult to win even at full strength. Very much the same theory that supported Pop's decision to punt in Miami a few years ago in order to give his team the best chance to win the home game that followed against Memphis.
He had a rough game against the Lakers and there is a thread on whether we are witnessing his last season and some other issues by sasaint (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12242). I tend to think it is not CIA Pop. There is a lot of hype for this game and Tim truly might be not in the best of state with that knee. It promises to be fast paced game and such, Tim might not be 100% to deal with that.
Brace yourselves.

[Spurtacular]

Boban better fucking start. This is all a big excuse to play the ginger, I just know it.

It'll be West like it has been.

[Kawhitstorm]

If they make Bonner beat them at Oracle.... We're fucked.

Bonner dropped 25/17 last time he started at the Oracle::lol http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200712110GSW.html

[Kawhitstorm]

or Tim is really dealing with some right knee issues and needs rest to get whole.

My guess is that if it were a playoff game, he'd play; and I suspect he'll play later in the week, too. But there's little point at this juncture in pushing him to play, particularly in a game that will be difficult to win even at full strength. Very much the same theory that supported Pop's decision to punt in Miami a few years ago in order to give his team the best chance to win the home game that followed against Memphis.

This is the KG-(let's save him some embarrassment)-DNP:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

West stretching Bogut out should work quite well on offense. This doesn't change my interest in the game. I still think we can win.

Tim's health is my only concern.

I actually wanted D-West to play as much as possible in this matchup b/c there are no postup player that will expose him on defense.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bonner dropped 25/17 last time he started at the Oracle::lol http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200712110GSW.html
Holy shit :lol det worriers core

[Spurtacular]

Small sample size; but Bonner is shooting .50 3FG this season.

[DeRozan m8]

West will start

And bitch slap that bitch team

[wingster]

This will just make the win that much better.

[Spurtacular]

Bonner dropped 25/17 last time he started at the Oracle::lol http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200712110GSW.html

Better than rookie Durant that night:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200712110CHI.html

[SAGirl]

This is the KG-(let's save him some embarrassment)-DNP:lol
I suspect they would destroy him in PnR like they did Love and would attack him every time. Tim wasn't looking right against the Lakers either. It is strategic as much as also saving Tim's knee.

Haven't we rested these guys plenty against the Dubs previous seasons though? They key men are Kawhi, Tony, Boris, Manu, some 3s and nice defense from Danny would be welcomed, LMA having a good game. We can still win this game.

[timtonymanu]

We're not beating them without Timmy. Might as well rest Manu too.

I love Timmy but the Dubs are a terrible matchup for him and right now, he looks really slow.

[Kawhitstorm]

Haven't we rested these guys plenty against the Dubs previous seasons though?

There wasn't much at stake unlike this season though:lol

[AFMadison]

West stretching Bogut out should work quite well on offense. This doesn't change my interest in the game. I still think we can win.

Tim's health is my only concern.
I can't take anything you say serious. Sanders? :lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

I love Timmy but the Dubs are a terrible matchup for him and right now, he looks really slow.

If he was going to play it would have been when Livingston is running the point along w/ the Speights/Ezeli frontline.

[AFMadison]

I like West playing this game. Hopefully he will throw some powder on his hand and slap Draymond across the jaw if he gets to jolly.

[ffadicted]

Classic Pop lol I'd be more surprised if everyone DID play

[Fireball]

that sucks big time ...

[SAGirl]

I like West playing this game. Hopefully he will throw some powder on his hand and slap Draymond across the jaw if he gets to jolly.
:lol
You made me laugh Madison.
I had a mental picture of this!

[AFMadison]

:lol
You made me laugh Madison.
I had a mental picture of this!
:bobo

[Spurs 4 The Win]

LMAO at anyone who thinks this is a real injury, this is CIA Pop 100%, he knows we live rent free in the Warriors head, no need to give them blind confidence against us by beating our full healthy squad :pop:

[gambit1990]

Pop just opened the pressure valve tbh.

[dabom]

Pop used to regularly rest guys at the warriettes home. Pop still playing mind games with them and reminding/giving his players confidence. :lol

[dabom]

Does Boban Start?

[Galileo]

This is a devilish conspiracy!

:lmao

[benefactor]

I think most of know in the back of our minds that though the players will be excited and play hard, Pop is likely going to tinker a bit and not show all his cards. He'll see the Dubs three more times. This is just the first chance to gauge some match ups and see where an advantage might lie.

:wakeup

[BillMc]

Does Boban Start?

Nope. Not mobile enough against the Dubs. West will start.

[dabom]

Nope. Not mobile enough against the Dubs. West will start.

Maybe.

[dabom]

West is undersized though. Would get hounded on defense.

[look_at_g_shred]

I like West playing this game. Hopefully he will throw some powder on his hand and slap Draymond across the jaw if he gets to jolly.
:lmao

[DenialTwist]

Fuck Jordan Ramirez, that benjamin button looking troll from Worriers World and Bleacher Report. He compared Duncan to Mo Speights and said it doesn't matter if TD doesn't play.
https://twitter.com/JRAM_91/status/691346965238456320

Pop should have just sat the big three lol

[wildbill2u]

I hate to even think that Pop might be building in an excuse in case of a loss.

[james evans]

This is a good strategy. Duncan can't cover the pnr like that. Start Diaw/Aldridge and bring Boban/West off the bench. I'm happy with this decision. Duncan looked old as fuck against the lakers. My favorite player of all time, but let's face reality.

[Fireball]

Pop used to regularly rest guys at the warriettes home. Pop still playing mind games with them and reminding/giving his players confidence. :lol

thats because most of the time we play GS on the second night on a b2b ... this time with two days rest I do not buy this Pop CIA thing ...

[Spurs 4 The Win]

thats because most of the time we play GS on the second night on a b2b ... this time with two days rest I do not buy this Pop CIA thing ...

This CIA Pop 100%

[Kikoluna]

Well this f-ing sucks. Talk about anticlimactic. Way to kill the game pop.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Well this f-ing sucks. Talk about anticlimactic. Way to kill the game pop.
We will still be competitive, we arent the warriors, we can miss a guy or two and still function fine

[hooperflash]

Would've loved to have had Timmy play but let's win it regardless of having the services of the GPFOAT.

[Mister Sinister]

Substantial sanctions tbh

[vander]

of all the old guys, I think Duncan is the one we can most afford to sit against the Warriors.

[Mikeanaro]

This will be a test for Lamarcus-san.

[Brian Windhorst]

The Warriors are the team that TD is going to be the least valuable against tbh. Not sure why people are reacting this way. LMA-Boris-Kawhi-Danny/Manu-TP was always going to be our optimal lineup against them. TD is basically only playable against GSW when Bogut or Ezeli is on the floor, and even then our more mobile bigs are going to fare better against their offense.

Sure, we aren't seeing them go head to head at "full strength", but "full strength" against Golden State isn't going to involve much Duncan to begin with.

[Xevious]

West is undersized though. Would get hounded on defense.
By who? Bogut is not a low-post threat, and West is more mobile than Tim is at this point. Spurs have done fine with West in the starting unit. They'll continue to roll with that.

[Brian Windhorst]

Furthermore, this is an extremely low risk, high reward play by Pop. We get to toy around with different combinations of our three mobile bigs and see what works and what doesn't, plus if we lose we didn't have Duncan, and if we win we did it without Duncan.

[dabom]

By who? Bogut is not a low-post threat, and West is more mobile than Tim is at this point. Spurs have done fine with West in the starting unit. They'll continue to roll with that.

By the guards and perimeter players. Undersized players can't rotate and help without giving an easy shot.

[Darius McCrary]

Just pray to the bball GODS this is CIA Pop.

Duncan is a bad matchup anyways, but he better not be hurt.

[Nathan89]

If Duncan plays in the next game I will be a lot less concerned.

[spursistan]

Tim left team and went back to SA..Starting to feel concerned about this, tbh..

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[BillMc]

Tim left team and went back to SA..Starting to feel concerned about this, tbh..

691375808166785024

Yeah, kinda sounds real...

[cjw]

of all the old guys, I think Duncan is the one we can most afford to sit against the Warriors.


The Warriors are the team that TD is going to be the least valuable against tbh.


Agree - Parker, Green, Kawhi, LMA, Diaw and Manu are all almost certainly more important than Duncan against GS, and you could argue West and Mills too. This could be a game where Pop throws Simmons, Anderson and/or Boban into the fire to get them some reps.

[ElNono]

Great excuse if we lose, tbh... :tu

[KenziE]

CIA Tim tbh

[spursistan]

Father Time is currently in 4th OT game with Timmy, but eventually it will win--like always..You just hope TD can push this thing to an another extra time before the knee gives out...

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan is more valuable vs. the Thunder and Clippers, tbh..this doesn't mean much for the Warriors games..

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Tim left team and went back to SA..Starting to feel concerned about this, tbh..

691375808166785024

We have never sent Tim home early before :lol

[BillMc]

Duncan is more valuable vs. the Thunder and Clippers, tbh..this doesn't mean much for the Warriors games..

This is true

[baseline bum]

I think Pop hates long winning streaks ever since blowing four straight to OKC in 2012 after 20 wins in a row.

[tholdren]

west and boban to bring the nasty

[TD 21]

This isn't about "Pop not wanting to show his cards" or "Pop not wanting to give them a mental edge" or Duncan "not being necessary vs the Warriors". Something is clearly not right. He hasn't looked himself for a while now and it's past the point where it can be said that the primary reason for it, is his "role changing" or him "taking it easy".

Soreness might actually be worse than a (relatively minor) injury, because in his case, it's probably mileage related, as opposed something specific having happened. I wouldn't be surprised to see him shut down for a few weeks soon, but it's fair to wonder if this is going to linger through the remainder of the season.

[Brian Windhorst]

Tim left team and went back to SA..Starting to feel concerned about this, tbh..

691375808166785024

"Hey Tim, you want to stick around for a few days in San Francisco so you can watch the game behind the bench in a suit? I know the knee is sore, but that's nothing a few days in the Bay away from our facility and two hours sitting in the bleachers will make worse."

[Spurs 4 The Win]

This isn't about "Pop not wanting to show his cards" or "Pop not wanting to give them a mental edge" or Duncan "not being necessary vs the Warriors". Something is clearly not right. He hasn't looked himself for a while now and it's past the point where it can be said that the primary reason for it, is his "role changing" or him "taking it easy".

Soreness might actually be worse than a (relatively minor) injury, because in his case, it's probably mileage related, as opposed something specific having happened. I wouldn't be surprised to see him shut down for a few weeks soon, but it's fair to wonder if this is going to linger through the remainder of the season.

He has had two bad games in a row, besides that, he had been playing just fine, look at the stats, you are overreacting. He probably was a little sore, because he has tendonitis, and Pop said, this game really isnt important in the grand scheme, no need to risk an injury, lets send you home for an extended rest and get you ready for the next game.

[baseline bum]

This isn't about "Pop not wanting to show his cards" or "Pop not wanting to give them a mental edge" or Duncan "not being necessary vs the Warriors". Something is clearly not right. He hasn't looked himself for a while now and it's past the point where it can be said that the primary reason for it, is his "role changing" or him "taking it easy".

Soreness might actually be worse than a (relatively minor) injury, because in his case, it's probably mileage related, as opposed something specific having happened. I wouldn't be surprised to see him shut down for a few weeks soon, but it's fair to wonder if this is going to linger through the remainder of the season.

If it was anything serious do you really think Pop would have played him against the Lakers?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

If it was anything serious do you really think Pop would have played him against the Lakers?

People are suddenly cliffjumping, dont understand it lol

[TD 21]

He has had two bad games in a row, besides that, he had been playing just fine, look at the stats, you are overreacting. He probably was a little sore, because he has tendonitis, and Pop said, this game really isnt important in the grand scheme, no need to risk an injury, lets send you home for an extended rest and get you ready for the next game.

We knew his averages would decline, but the vast majority of his metrics have been steadily declining for weeks, too.



If it was anything serious do you really think Pop would have played him against the Lakers?

I think they've thought for a while now that it's typical soreness and they'll rest him here and there and it'll be fine, but I think they're getting to the point where they're starting to realize it's not getting better, which is why he'll probably be shut down for a few weeks soon.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

We knew his averages would decline, but the vast majority of his metrics have been steadily declining for weeks, too.




I think they've thought for a while now that it's typical soreness and they'll rest him here and there and it'll be fine, but I think they're getting to the point where they're starting to realize it's not getting better, which is why he'll probably be shut down for a few weeks soon.

If that happens then you will be right, until then, you are just making a wild guess and seeming like a cliffjumper

[Nathan89]

If he's out for more than this game it's a real issue. In the meantime let's speculate.

[Spurs Brazil]

I hope TD is OK. When he missed games early in the season with that sore knee, Elliott said TD was really hurt

[SpurAddict561]

This is so they don't fine the organization again on a highly anticipated game. Nothing to see here...

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Won't we need Duncan for rebound if we up by three and Warriors are going for tie in the waning moments of the game?

[Aztecfan03]

West is undersized though. Would get hounded on defense.
you know we still have lamarcus, right?

[Capster]

Duh! Yes the Spurs need Duncan!

[dabom]

you know we still have lamarcus, right?

But not LMA and Duncan you dope.

[Aztecfan03]

But not LMA and Duncan you dope.
LMA/West combo is normal-sized combo for PF/C. and warriors like to play small anyways.

[dabom]

LMA/West combo is normal-sized combo for PF/C. and warriors like to play small anyways.

I don't give a fuck what you say girl. Duncan is the second best defender in the league behind Kawhi. He will be missed. You can bet on that. :lmao

[Capster]

The Spurs can win this game if the rest of the team can bring their A GAME!!

[spurs10]

Bummer! :(

[lilbthebasedgod]

west would work much better as a starter than boban tbh.

But its cool that we'll see boban play

[hooperflash]

Imagine they announce LMA out again with back spasms. :lol

[z0sa]

Called Pop resting a starter.

[Old School 44]

Too bad. I'll miss Tim trolling his buddy Kerr.

[Spurs9]

Can't wait for Boban to start, gonna troll all of the Warriors fan base with some giant they have probably never heard of :lol

[SilverSpur]

Pop being Pop, he knows we gonna need speed to keep up with State.

[benefactor]

If that happens then you will be right, until then, you are just making a wild guess and seeming like a cliffjumper
TD21 is known for his emotional, estrogen filled takes. Hasn't posted in like a week, but as soon as something he can spin as bad happens he logs in and pounds out a post through the tears.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

TD21 is known for his emotional, estrogen filled takes. Hasn't posted in like a week, but as soon as something he can spin as bad happens he logs in and pounds out a post through the tears.

:lol

[100%duncan]

I actually feel sad. Soon Timmy wont be DNP anymore if you know what i mean... :depressed

[YGWHI]

They also sent multiple defenders at Curry when he went towards the middle. The spacing on this play is all kinds of bad, but watch Leonard's recovery on the perimeter to prevent the perimeter shot, then Duncan covering inside.

This is why I was stunned when people suggested that Duncan being out wouldn't make an impact in this game because he wouldn't play vs. the smallball lineups. LaMarcus Aldridge and Boban Marjanovich aren't defending at the rim like that, or getting the rebound.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25460942/beneath-the-glitz-warriors-spurs-will-be-a-chess-game-of-matchups

[Sec24Row7]

I think Pop hates long winning streaks ever since blowing four straight to OKC in 2012 after 20 wins in a row.

I think he'd be ok with 98 straight.

[BillMc]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25460942/beneath-the-glitz-warriors-spurs-will-be-a-chess-game-of-matchups

Good read. Thanks for posting. LMA is going to be key.

[tonight...you]

By the guards and perimeter players. Undersized players can't rotate and help without giving an easy shot.
Didn't read the thread. Too many gomers...
Whatchu think is gon' happen on Monday, blud?

[TrainOfThought5]

Didnt we beat the warriors a couple years ago without like 5 of our players?

[Russ]

Your move, Kerr . . . :lol

Actually, I think Pop just wants to see the Bo-Bo confrontation.

Boban -- Bogut, that is.

[Arcadian]

I'm the biggest Duncan fan I know, and even I don't think it matters that much. Our best lineups for GS don't include Duncan, tbh...

[Uriel]

:lol @ people sayng Duncan missing the game won't have an impact. He's #1 in the NBA in defensive real-plus minus and remains the anchor of our defense on the interior.

His absence not only takes away a lot of luster from arguably the most anticipated regular season game in NBA history, it also virtually guarantees a Spurs loss.

[littlecoyotecoin]

:lol @ people sayng Duncan missing the game won't have an impact. He's #1 in the NBA in defensive real-plus minus and remains the anchor of our defense on the interior.

His absence not only takes away a lot of luster from arguably the most anticipated regular season game in NBA history, it also virtually guarantees a Spurs loss.

Yeah. They just sent me up here to talk to you. You need a cigarette or anything? Why don't you step through that window, off that ledge and you can tell me what's wrong. I'm just trying to do my job. Help me out, here.

[Aztecfan03]

I don't give a fuck what you say girl. Duncan is the second best defender in the league behind Kawhi. He will be missed. You can bet on that. :lmao
I didn't say he wouldn't, dumbass.

[TheDoctor]

Imagine they announce LMA out again with back spasms. :lol
Or Kawhi with the shits again. Gastroenteritis, sorry.

[Mnky]

West 4 D Win

[Mnky]

:lol @ people sayng Duncan missing the game won't have an impact. He's #1 in the NBA in defensive real-plus minus and remains the anchor of our defense on the interior.

His absence not only takes away a lot of luster from arguably the most anticipated regular season game in NBA history, it also virtually guarantees a Spurs loss.

What in the world are you talking about...
Guaranteed... ?

[spurs10]

Well it's time to win one for Timmy!:ihit

[BillMc]

Well it's time to win one for Timmy!:ihit
:toast

[TheDoctor]

Imagine they announce LMA out again with back spasms. :lol
Or Kawhi with the shits again. Gastroenteritis, sorry.

[Ice009]

Darn. Tim sat another game or two earlier in the season with knee soreness. I wasn't sure if it was just an excuse for rest or if his knee really was bothering him. I was worried that his knee might actually be more of an issue than it normally is for him and not just listed there for the sake of listing an injury. I hope it's not that bad and that he will be alright.

[dabom]

Didn't read the thread. Too many gomers...
Whatchu think is gon' happen on Monday, blud?

If this was SA we steamroll them. Tim is always there for rim protection. No Tim, we get less ref respect. I have to make a homer take and take Spurs by 14.

[Kawhitstorm]

This is a good strategy. Duncan can't cover the pnr like that. Start Diaw/Aldridge and bring Boban/West off the bench. I'm happy with this decision. Duncan looked old as fuck against the lakers. My favorite player of all time, but let's face reality.

Nah, West/LMA have good chemistry & West is a better matchup against Draymond b/c he's going to bring some nasty. Diaw can school Speights or Barnes (if they go to the "Death Lineup"). Diaw also puts the ball on the money for Boban & has better chemistry w/ the bench mob.

[Kawhitstorm]

The Warriors are the team that TD is going to be the least valuable against tbh. Not sure why people are reacting this way. LMA-Boris-Kawhi-Danny/Manu-TP was always going to be our optimal lineup against them. TD is basically only playable against GSW when Bogut or Ezeli is on the floor, and even then our more mobile bigs are going to fare better against their offense.

Sure, we aren't seeing them go head to head at "full strength", but "full strength" against Golden State isn't going to involve much Duncan to begin with.

It's actually not Draymond that's the issue for Tim, it's Curry running high PnRs. If it was Livingston then it wouldn't matter much b/c he's a postup point guard.

[Kawhitstorm]

This isn't about "Pop not wanting to show his cards" or "Pop not wanting to give them a mental edge" or Duncan "not being necessary vs the Warriors". Something is clearly not right. He hasn't looked himself for a while now and it's past the point where it can be said that the primary reason for it, is his "role changing" or him "taking it easy".

Soreness might actually be worse than a (relatively minor) injury, because in his case, it's probably mileage related, as opposed something specific having happened. I wouldn't be surprised to see him shut down for a few weeks soon, but it's fair to wonder if this is going to linger through the remainder of the season.

Do you think Pop would have played him against the Lakers if it was something serious?:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Won't we need Duncan for rebound if we up by three and Warriors are going for tie in the waning moments of the game?

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/41/47/50/8813084/9/1024x1024.jpg

[Kawhitstorm]

I don't give a fuck what you say girl. Duncan is the second best defender in the league behind Kawhi. He will be missed. You can bet on that. :lmao

Tim is the best rim protector, not the 2nd best defender. :lol

[SpurPadre]

Boban better not play important minutes against the Dubs. If you guys thought Beno turned it over too much against the Pistons, that's child's play compared to how many times Boban would turn it over against the Dubs. Worst matchup possible for him. I'd rather sandwich boy get minutes...and you all know how I feel about him.

[itzsoweezee]

Kind of worrisome that Tim is sitting after two days off.

[TD 21]

Do you think Pop would have played him against the Lakers if it was something serious?:lol

Like I said earlier, I don't think they thought it was anything serious initially, but it's clearly something that's been lingering for a while and at this point, they're probably concerned.

Players coming in and out of the lineup, being sent home off of a road trip, this is not how the Spurs usually operate.

You can tell something is wrong too. He started the season looking similar to how he has in recent seasons, but has been in a steady decline for weeks.

[Kawhitstorm]

Boban better not play important minutes against the Dubs. If you guys thought Beno turned it over too much against the Pistons, that's child's play compared to how many times Boban would turn it over against the Dubs. Worst matchup possible for him. I'd rather sandwich boy get minutes...and you all know how I feel about him.

Considering how they got cucked by Baynes/Plumlee it won't a disaster unless they are trying to post him up.:lol PnRs or pound them on the offensive glass.

[Kawhitstorm]

Kind of worrisome that Tim is sitting after two days off.

LeBron took 2 wks off b/c of general soreness last season.:lol

[dabom]

Tim is the best rim protector, not the 2nd best defender. :lol

Who is better than him?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Like I said earlier, I don't think they thought it was anything serious initially, but it's clearly something that's been lingering for a while and at this point, they're probably concerned.

Players coming in and out of the lineup, being sent home off of a road trip, this is not how the Spurs usually operate.

You can tell something is wrong too. He started the season looking similar to how he has in recent seasons, but has been in a steady decline for weeks.

Take your debbie downer shit elsewhere dude. You are freaking out over nothing.

[SpurPadre]

Considering how they got cucked by Baynes/Plumlee it won't a disaster unless they are trying to post him up.:lol PnRs or pound them on the offensive glass.

The only benefit I see out of Boban playing is if he stares down Draymond and baits him to an ejection due to fighting.

[gospursgojas]

Wouldnt have been a big part of outcome of game anyway.

[TD 21]

Take your debbie downer shit elsewhere dude. You are freaking out over nothing.

I'm not freaking out, genius, I'm just pointing out that there's good reason to believe this is not the bullshit that cliche, vanilla fans such as yourself automatically assume it is.

[SpurPadre]

Wouldnt have been a big part of outcome of game anyway.

Offensively no, but would've helped significantly in the rebound battle.

[Kawhitstorm]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25460942/beneath-the-glitz-warriors-spurs-will-be-a-chess-game-of-matchups

Draymond wasn't shooting 40% from 3 nor playing point-forward full-time & Tim wasn't missing point blank shots (while getting outplayed by Hibbert/Robin Lopez/Garnett/Shitter/Biyombo/Ajinca:lol) last season.

The Worriers had also already clinched the #1 seed & weren't playing their best during the "Kawhi Game", not to mention it was at the Worriors House of Horrors (SA).

The 1st matchup was early in the season before the Worriers became the Worriers along with CoJo/Baynes/Marco no longer being on the roster. Kawhi/Shittier/Tony/Patty were either injured or coming back from injury for the 2nd game so last season is moot especially w/ the addition of LMA/D-West/Simmons/Boban.

If you are going to take anything from any of the 3 games from last season then the 1st match-up would be the one to study.:wakeup

[dabom]

Still waiting. :lol

[tonight...you]

If this was SA we steamroll them. Tim is always there for rim protection. No Tim, we get less ref respect. I have to make a homer take and take Spurs by 14.
Right on right on. Let's hope.

[TD 21]

I love how all the closet Warriors fans ignore the fact that the Spurs have dominated them in recent years and instead make it seem like it's the Spurs who have to prove themselves and make all sorts of adjustments to have a chance.

Only the Spurs could have the pedigree they have and be doing what they're currently doing, yet seemingly always be in the position of having to prove themselves to the latest it team.

[dabom]

I love how all the closet Warriors fans ignore the fact that the Spurs have dominated them in recent years and instead make it seem like it's the Spurs who have to prove themselves and make all sorts of adjustments to have a chance.

This a new team.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQi6Gg1NrLN_yqWBCZaX_HueRVhL4NaW DJGRv7uQbwqrk6k9IlW

[spurs10]

I love how all the closet Warriors fans ignore the fact that the Spurs have dominated them in recent years and instead make it seem like it's the Spurs who have to prove themselves and make all sorts of adjustments to have a chance. We have quite the record against this team! I like our chances in a series, but would love homecourt.

[spurs10]

This a new team.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQi6Gg1NrLN_yqWBCZaX_HueRVhL4NaW DJGRv7uQbwqrk6k9IlW Somewhat, and no doubt they are a great team.

[TD 21]

This a new team.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQi6Gg1NrLN_yqWBCZaX_HueRVhL4NaW DJGRv7uQbwqrk6k9IlW

And statistically a better one than the ones that have beaten up on those arrogant punks, but let's keep pretending it's the Spurs who have to prove themselves to them and not the other way around.

[jdelar03]

Spurs know they dont need Duncan to be gs once 7 game series yes but the warriers are like anybody else we can rest who we want and still win

[phxspurfan]

RIP TD. Kareem was better at 40 I guess

[TheDoctor]

Fuck Jordan Ramirez, that benjamin button looking troll from Worriers World and Bleacher Report. He compared Duncan to Mo Speights and said it doesn't matter if TD doesn't play.
https://twitter.com/JRAM_91/status/691346965238456320

Pop should have just sat the big three lol
Nobody gives a fuck about some no name benjamin button shit . Who the fuck is named Jordan Ramirez anyway? I'll name my son Pippen Gonzalez :lmao I feel bad for him tho'. He is not to blame but rather his parents. Dumb name.

[Kawhitstorm]

RIP TD. Kareem was better at 40 I guess

Kareem didn't have knee problems since he was 23 & missed the playoffs TWICE during the peak of his prime:wakeup

[Kawhitstorm]

The only benefit I see out of Boban playing is if he stares down Draymond and baits him to an ejection due to fighting.

Boban would eat Speights lunch.:wakeup

[SpurPadre]

Boban would eat Speights lunch.:wakeup

Speights likes to shoot 15 footers, do you really see Boban able to defend that?

[Kawhitstorm]

Who is better than him?

Draymond

[Kawhitstorm]

Speights likes to shoot 15 footers, do you really see Boban able to defend that?

Speights can chuck all he wants but he can't handle Boban.:sleep

[dabom]

Draymond

:lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

:lmao

:wakeup

[Ice009]

Did anyone ask the question which knee it is? I notice that he's been wearing a brace/sleeve on the other one this season and I don't recall him wearing one on that knee in previous seasons.

[dabom]

:wakeup

I can't believe you even said that. :lol

Sorry to tell you but Kawhi and Tim are super close for the one and two spot. Raymond not even close. :toast

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Speights likes to shoot 15 footers, do you really see Boban able to defend that?
it doesn't matter, if Speights chucks that's a win for us tbh

[Kawhitstorm]

it doesn't matter, if Speights chucks that's a win for us tbh

Yep, he's the 6'10" version of Gary Neal:lol

[tmtcsc]

WTF? Tim is hurting folks. I have no idea how serious it is but its real and it sent Tim home early.

[Ice009]

Again, does anyone know which knee it is? Is it the one that he wears the big brace on or the other one that would be considered his good one?

[RD2191]

Tim needs badger milk.

[SpursforSix]

Tim needs badger milk.

Well put some cups on your mom's giant clown areoles and get to milkin

[RD2191]

Well put some cups on your mom's giant clown areoles and get to milkin
:lmao

[SAGirl]

Again, does anyone know which knee it is? Is it the one that he wears the big brace on or the other one that would be considered his good one?
It is the one good knee he still has. The left knee is gone, that is where he wears the brace. The right knee is the one that he has bandaged up lately and is sore.

[TheGreatYacht]

Well put some cups on your mom's giant clown areoles and get to milkin
Pfffffff :lmao

[Aztecfan03]

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/41/47/50/8813084/9/1024x1024.jpg
He makes drummond look like a guard.

[PublicOption]

Pop playing minds....built in excuse.....release the Boban.

[nowitzkikopf]

your next game is at home vs houston; that's why he's back in SA. more concerning if he had left in the middle of the rodeo rt or something

[ElNono]

We'll see what's the news in the next few days, but the team has already sat him out with the same issue before this season, I'm pretty confident they've run MRIs and what not to determine what's going on.

It's well known that right knee has been bone on bone for a while now. If they have to sit him down for a while, so be it. Big picture.

[Kawhitstorm]

It is the one good knee he still has. The left knee is gone, that is where he wears the brace. The right knee is the one that he has bandaged up lately and is sore.

:depressed

[Proxy]

I'm sorry that Timmy won't be playing. His leadership, if nothing else, is invaluable on the floor. We will miss his presence.

So, are assuming West or Boris to start?

West.... We've already seen him get starts this year if TD or LMA sat out... And I think it's somewhat of a priority to keep Patty, Manu, and Boris out there together as the second unit

[G-Dawgg]

I think David West matches up better with Draymond Green anyways...

[Fireball]

It is the one good knee he still has. The left knee is gone, that is where he wears the brace. The right knee is the one that he has bandaged up lately and is sore.

Timmy has not dunked the ball once this season ... again, I do not buy this CA Pop stuff ... this is just not good

[DMC]

Spurs will be ushered out in grande style. Pop knows he cannot have that slow ass start in GS, so he is going to have the Tony Parker show and up the tempo to the Patty Mills show. Expect a GS avalanche early.

Remember how the bench beat State a couple or so back?

[DMC]

Spurs will be ushered out in grande style. Pop knows he cannot have that slow ass start in GS, so he is going to have the Tony Parker show and up the tempo to the Patty Mills show. Expect a GS avalanche early.

Remember how the bench beat State a couple or so back?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Actually this is good. Spurs already know what they got in Duncan/Diaw vs GSW. Now its time to see what LMA, West, and yes Boban brings to the table. Boban might struggle defensively off the pnr but he should beast and bully GS frontcourt. With Duncan not starting, I think Pop will play Simmons and KA a lot as well.

It would see that Pop would want they guys to get battle tested for the playoffs -- watching the film and learning from their mistakes

[NameLess Scrub]

I can only hope Timmy is not seriously hurt.
I want him to get another ring and retire playing great.

He does look visually older and more fragile.
If he needs to rest until the POs so be it.. Spurs will need him to bring whatever he has left.

Also hope LMa and Boban are ready to handle the rim protection and keep SA in the race for HCA.
It sucks for the Spurs the Warriors are having such a great record.

[TheDoctor]

How was it?

"Until the wheels fall off"?

Tim just needs to put in his right leg the same brace that's in his left and he'll be ready to go for another 15 years.

[houston spurs fan]

I'm in H-Town and there are 2 major sports radio stations and then the national guys. EVERYONE is saying this is Pop being Pop. Spurs don't care about regular season,Pop not wanting to show Kerr his full deck, etc... And it all may be true. But I got to wonder after watching TD the last few games if that is true...makes me nervous.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Tim's fine. Yes he is old. Pop doesn't want to risk injury or fatigue on Duncan on a meaningless game. Playoffs is when its going to matter anyhow. Just ask Parker about that.

[Fireball]

I would not be surprised if Boban does not play more than 5 minutes despite Timmy sitting this one out ...

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I would not be surprised if Boban does not play more than 5 minutes despite Timmy sitting this one out ...

I expect no more than 10 minutes in the 5 1st half and 5 in the 2nd.. It will be LMA, Diaw and West getting the bulk. But it would be good for him to get his feet wet against GS just to test the waters.

[Fireball]

I expect no more than 10 minutes in the 5 1st half and 5 in the 2nd.. It will be LMA, Diaw and West getting the bulk. But it would be good for him to get his feet wet against GS just to test the waters.

yeah, I just think Pop is known for not throwing his rookies to the wolves ... not the worst thing from a confidence perspective

[BillMc]

I would not be surprised if Boban does not play more than 5 minutes despite Timmy sitting this one out ...

Agreed. I think Boban will get killed on the Warriors pick and roll. West, Boris, LMA and even Bonner will see time.

[SpursFan86]

I honestly like this decision. For one, you can never get upset at a 40-year old getting rest in January. Whether his knee is actually bothering him or if Pop just wants him to get rest, I'm fine with it.

Secondly, as I've said in the past, I really don't think GS is a great matchup for Tim. This will force Pop to play with the lineups a bit and see how we match up. I think West/Aldridge and Diaw/Aldridge are better pairings than Aldridge/Tim against the Warriors. People keep saying we need to exploit their size and while I agree, I don't think playing Tim/Aldridge together is the right way to do that. Kawhi/Diaw/Aldridge is still a "big" lineup, and they match up much better with GS IMO.

[Nathan89]

Timmy sitting out definitely allows Pop to tweak the lineup without it looking like panic adjustments to compete with GSW.

[BackHome]

Man feels like watching a soap opera everyone thinking the sky is falling. Every one just needs to man up and we win today end of story.

[boutons_deux]

I don't see a big problem, although GS could make some more layups, put backs.

and winning @GS AND w/o Tim would really give GS something to think about.

[gameFACE]

On the surface this is a predictable CIA Pop chess move that it's mundane. But it's brilliant, too. Not for the Warriors but for the Spurs. They can get comfortable winning. TD not playing gives them an edge to work from. If Manu and/or Tony were to rest it would be too much. Why not capitalize and embellish a true situation (TD's sore knee)? Kerr knew a CIA Pop move was coming. A blatantly obvious one might just work.

GO SPURS!! And FTW

[Chinook]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25460942/beneath-the-glitz-warriors-spurs-will-be-a-chess-game-of-matchups

Lol, no one thinks Tim isn't a great defender when he's in his comfort zone. His issue is that he's easy to exploit when targeted, and teams like GS are great at targeting bigs by putting them out in space. I wouldn't want Tim to miss a post-season series with GS as his intangibles are necessary to get the team over the hump, but I totally don't think it's an issue in the RS.


:lol @ people sayng Duncan missing the game won't have an impact. He's #1 in the NBA in defensive real-plus minus and remains the anchor of our defense on the interior.

His absence not only takes away a lot of luster from arguably the most anticipated regular season game in NBA history, it also virtually guarantees a Spurs loss.

:rolleyes I understand that you're like the poster boy for the "appeal to authority" fallacy, but come on. Can you have a take without relying on stats or what other people think? If you don't understand why Tim is a liability to a GS game, I don't know what to tell you. But there's a big difference between Tim's aggregate play when he's allowed to play almost exclusively in his comfort zone and specific games. Like seriously.

[Horse]

It's low risk high reward. If we lose on the road without TD who gives a shit. But should we win it's a bigtime mindfuck to some fragile warriors. We should still dominate the boards. Transition D will be key. If LMA and West have their shots falling it may take bogut out of the game giving them even less rim protection.

[EVAY]

Agreed. I think Boban will get killed on the Warriors pick and roll. West, Boris, LMA and even Bonner will see time.

This would be my guess. I will be surprised if Boban plays at all.

[From Downtown]

Loss

[Arcadian]

:lol @ people sayng Duncan missing the game won't have an impact. He's #1 in the NBA in defensive real-plus minus and remains the anchor of our defense on the interior.

His absence not only takes away a lot of luster from arguably the most anticipated regular season game in NBA history, it also virtually guarantees a Spurs loss.

It won't have nearly the impact that it would have had, say, 3 years ago.

We're talking about 39-yo Duncan here. The Spurs aren't dependent on him for success anymore. This is the first time in his career when he's not even a top-3 MVP on his team. Top 5, probably, but that means he's still "expendable" (i.e. a win is possible without him).

[TD 21]

I honestly like this decision. For one, you can never get upset at a 40-year old getting rest in January. Whether his knee is actually bothering him or if Pop just wants him to get rest, I'm fine with it.

Secondly, as I've said in the past, I really don't think GS is a great matchup for Tim. This will force Pop to play with the lineups a bit and see how we match up. I think West/Aldridge and Diaw/Aldridge are better pairings than Aldridge/Tim against the Warriors. People keep saying we need to exploit their size and while I agree, I don't think playing Tim/Aldridge together is the right way to do that. Kawhi/Diaw/Aldridge is still a "big" lineup, and they match up much better with GS IMO.

If his knee isn't actually bothering him (which I don't buy), no one needs as much rest as he's gotten recently, especially not a guy who's proven more than capable of carrying a heavier workload in recent seasons and with a week plus break upcoming.

I don't get this line of thinking. Sure, they may not be a good match-up for him, but people act as if they're going to drop him from the rotation or play him spot minutes, if/when they meet in the playoffs. Neither is happening, so it would make more sense to figure out how and when to utilize him against them, than attempting to avoid figuring it out altogether.

[Uriel]

:rolleyes I understand that you're like the poster boy for the "appeal to authority" fallacy, but come on. Can you have a take without relying on stats or what other people think? If you don't understand why Tim is a liability to a GS game, I don't know what to tell you. But there's a big difference between Tim's aggregate play when he's allowed to play almost exclusively in his comfort zone and specific games. Like seriously.
So what are you implying? That we stand a better chance to win this game today without Tim than with him? Because if not, then you've essentially conceded my point.

[james evans]

Duncan is still great at rim protection, but in that pnr when Bogus(yeah I spelled it right) and Green are setting illegal picks that the refs won't call, we don't need to see him on Curry in the open court. I just hope Patty Hearst and Ginobli are ready to flop on one of those many illegal screens that will be set tonight.

[dabom]

West is undersized though. Would get hounded on defense.


By the guards and perimeter players. Undersized players can't rotate and help without giving an easy shot.


But not LMA and Duncan you dope.


I don't give a fuck what you say girl. Duncan is the second best defender in the league behind Kawhi. He will be missed. You can bet on that. :lmao


If this was SA we steamroll them. Tim is always there for rim protection. No Tim, we get less ref respect. I have to make a homer take and take Spurs by 14.

Everything right. Even my biased homer take. I still hope we win though but I knew we were going to miss Tim the GOAT Duncan even if they play small ball. Low IQ posters. :lmao

[Uriel]

:lol @ people sayng Duncan missing the game won't have an impact. He's #1 in the NBA in defensive real-plus minus and remains the anchor of our defense on the interior.

His absence not only takes away a lot of luster from arguably the most anticipated regular season game in NBA history, it also virtually guarantees a Spurs loss.
:wakeup

[dabom]

West is undersized though. Would get hounded on defense.


By the guards and perimeter players. Undersized players can't rotate and help without giving an easy shot.


But not LMA and Duncan you dope.


I don't give a fuck what you say girl. Duncan is the second best defender in the league behind Kawhi. He will be missed. You can bet on that. :lmao


:wakeup

Bro it's like some people don't fucking know shit about basketball even though they religiously watch that shit. :lmao

[Budkin]

out against Houston too... damn.

[DMC]

Spurs will be ushered out in grande style. Pop knows he cannot have that slow ass start in GS, so he is going to have the Tony Parker show and up the tempo to the Patty Mills show. Expect a GS avalanche early.

Remember how the bench beat State a couple or so back?
This one was easy to predict. Spurs are nowhere close to Warriors basketball. This just shows how shitty the rest of the league is. There should be a class action lawsuit against the NBA for having such as shitty product that falsely advertises "competition".