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SAGirl
01-26-2016, 12:06 PM
GSW has become an elite team not only by Steph and Draymond raising their level of play, they have also become a much smarter team. That is the addition of Steve Kerr to the team.

Whereas they attacked Kevin Love against the Cavs and caused David Blatt to be fired... against Spurs, they attacked Parker and Mills. They didn't use PnR as much bc they didn't want to get Kawhi on Draymond and on Curry, so instead they attacked Tony. You can't hide Tony anywhere. Everyone scored on Tony, or caused whoever Tony was guarding to be doubled, and unlike some of our guys, they are skilled passing up out of double teams immediately. Several of Livingston's baskets were obtained this way.

I am not a fan of Raymonds. I hope our own Kyle Anderson can match him eventually, if not defensively bc that is a tall order, offensively and in passing and ball handling, much much superior. . . (allow me this fangirl's hope), but Kawhi already has that potential as well (so it is a realistic hope). But Raymond was clearly their leader, making passing decisions, and he would get the ball a lot to create, not even to score for himself. He's not a great post scorer, but learned to copy Diaw in the sense that he would attack any mismatch to pass, what he is, is a great passer. The PG are off the ball a lot in this game a lot, and Curry didn't need the PnR since he could take Tony off a screen or one on one when he wanted.

GSW showed me how our team could progress to the future centered on a forward, since there were also sequences in the 2nd Q when Pop did give the ball to Kawhi and Kawhi was very efficient scoring, and also moved the ball very well and we got buckets out of that for himself and others. We even got the game to within 10. However within that same span, we could not get stops on the other end bc GSW attacked Tony with whoever he was guarding.

On our own end, there were mismatches we missed. We are not as smart as they are offensively and didn't execute on either end. Defensively, the story of the night was exploiting Tony and getting backcuts since all our perimeter players were hit with them. Yes there was some questionable officiating... and dare I say it, everyone in our team is a veteran save Kyle and Simmons. There was a moment Kyle let the excitement and the showboating, the pressure get to him, and drove to the basket getting fouled, but getting no calls. Kawhi had a sequence also going one on one forcing up a bad shot early in the shot clock when there were options right in front of him like Kyle guarded by Livingston almost right under the basket, but instead Kawhi forced up a bad contested midrange shot over Draymond I believe. Simmons started well but then was out of control. I believe these guys are the ones who Pap may say there were like boys among men against GSW. Everyone else should know better.

The Positives:

Our young future. Kawhi knows better than to get rattled by the situation as he's been in these atmospheres and level competition before, but not in this role. This is something else and he's learning.

Kyle and Simmons are new. Both different, bring different things and we need them to develop for our future. They were not ready for this, I believe Kyle got rattled by all the showboating (Raymond getting to him? who knows?) and forced up a drive that got a very bad look. The silver lining is that he has fire in his belly to attempt something and not get passive. The bad is that he's not yet good enough for that something he attempted to be a good thing. But he was competitive and I liked that, good instincts on defense too. All I saw is, he needs to develop and needs experience.

Simmons, super athletic, and very competitive, was also aggressive and not scared because of the situation, but it also maybe got to him a bit with a bit of an out of control play at times. The silver lining is that he also has that fire in his belly to not back down from the situation.

Finally Boban, competed hard and showed heart out there. He was playing with determination and ended up scoring and getting fouled out of his own will to not surrender and in quite dominating fashion.

The negatives:

Our PG situation is a liability against an elite team and we are not winning as we are bc GSW is now a smart enough and talented enough team to attack our undersized and defensively challenged PG every time with whoever they are guarding.

Tony. If you don't have him scoring, and have him off the ball, why have him out there to begin with. In the 2nd Q, we could have made a run if GSW didn't constantly attack Tony (Danny made a few mistakes on defense and Kyle forced up a bad shot-getting fouled no-call), but still the worse problem is that we were not getting stops. Patty was not much better, and he was exposed also getting attacked by Livingston and anyone else.

Manu played with fire but he wasn't much more effective than Tony. Overall our backcourt situation is a concern.

LMA. He was engaged defensively but GSW is an elite team and he's not a rim protector by trade or experience. They didn't target him specifically and he held his own several times, also rotating to contest 3s. Offensively he wasn't able to assert himself and it is a concern in a game we were counting on him. So much has been said about him elsewhere, that lets just say, he was not what we were expecting this game offensively.

ElNono
01-26-2016, 12:09 PM
Good writeup. I don't know if this was posted somewhere else, but Pop praised Simmons' aggression in the postgame, and said everybody else needed to play with that attitude.

TheGreatYacht
01-26-2016, 12:16 PM
Kyle and "positives" shouldn't go together. Cut that clown and play Rasual Buckets

RD2191
01-26-2016, 12:27 PM
Thanks for the thoughts.

RD2191
01-26-2016, 12:27 PM
Kyle and "positives" shouldn't go together. Cut that clown and play Rasual Buckets

One thing we can agree on.

TheGreatYacht
01-26-2016, 01:06 PM
One thing we can agree on.
And fuck the Warriors

sasaint
01-26-2016, 01:12 PM
Kyle and "positives" shouldn't go together. Cut that clown and play Rasual Buckets

I think we were lulled into a false sense of security, leading us to believe that we had the luxury of developing Kyle rather than playing the reliable veteran, Rasual. I look for Butler to get more burn going forward. I would like to see Pop even try him in place of Danny in the starting unit. Put him in at the 3 and move Kawhi to the 2. I believe Butler may be able to play with the confidence that Danny has lost and shoot the 3 that we have been needing.

DarrinS
01-26-2016, 01:26 PM
Yeah, the Warriors and Thunder are terrible matchups for our PG's.

RD2191
01-26-2016, 01:42 PM
And fuck the Warriors

Fuck yes.

SAGirl
01-26-2016, 02:49 PM
I think we were lulled into a false sense of security, leading us to believe that we had the luxury of developing Kyle rather than playing the reliable veteran, Rasual. I look for Butler to get more burn going forward. I would like to see Pop even try him in place of Danny in the starting unit. Put him in at the 3 and move Kawhi to the 2. I believe Butler may be able to play with the confidence that Danny has lost and shoot the 3 that we have been needing.
Kyle is mostly playing in garbage time when games are out of contest anyway.
If you want to see Rasual get real minutes you are asking for Danny's minutes.
Garbage time doesn't help Rasual as much as it helps Kyle who does need it, and Rasual does see garbage time. Before the last couple of games he had been shooting very poorly as well, since shooters are streaky.

Rasual for Danny? Defense is the concern. Rasual is always subbed as a 4 for a reason. His lateral quickness is lacking, as well as negotiating screens. Who knows maybe Pop will find minutes for Rasual, but it is tight. Danny has already been loosing minutes to Simmons.

SAGirl
01-26-2016, 08:56 PM
Bumping my own thread.
:toast

daledondale
01-26-2016, 09:21 PM
Kyle and "positives" shouldn't go together. Cut that clown and play Rasual Buckets
http://i.imgur.com/bl3e9eN.gif

YGWHI
01-26-2016, 09:22 PM
Whereas they attacked Kevin Love against the Cavs and caused David Blatt to be fired... against Spurs, they attacked Parker and Mills.
Is this some subtle to-trade-them-line...? Just kidding. Good read. Thanks :toast


GSW showed me how our team could progress to the future centered on a forward, since there were also sequences in the 2nd Q when Pop did give the ball to Kawhi and Kawhi was very efficient scoring, and also moved the ball very well and we got buckets out of that for himself and others. We even got the game to within 10.
I've said before that we still have advantage in Kawhi's matchups over Barnes/Klay. But they didn't go to Kawhi in the game consistently, not even make an effort to put the ball in his hands.

Most people say it's just Pop trying not to show his cards but if we compare Kawhi usg% and fga in January to other Spurs key players, we can say this team is too reliant on those players instead of him, and that seems a bad formula against the Dubs.

313
01-26-2016, 09:23 PM
Kyle and "positives" shouldn't go together. Cut that clown and play Rasual Buckets
That block he had was emphatic. I had forgot he was on the roster.

YGWHI
01-26-2016, 09:33 PM
Yeah, the Warriors and Thunder are terrible matchups for our PG's.
And it's not like Clippers with Paul last playoffs, and Rockets with Beverly this season, were/are great matchups for them...Rockets, Clippers, Thunder, Warriors...basically all our rivals in playoffs.

SAGirl
01-26-2016, 09:40 PM
Is this some subtle to-trade-them-line...? Just kidding. Good read. Thanks :toast


I've said before that we still have advantage in Kawhi's matchups over Barnes/Klay. But they didn't go to Kawhi in the game consistently, not even make an effort to put the ball in his hands.

Most people say it's just Pop trying not to show his cards but if we compare Kawhi usg% and fga in January to other Spurs key players, we can say this team is too reliant on those players instead of him, and that seems a bad formula against the Dubs.
There was experimenting in this game, the sequence in the 2nd that I referenced they went to him repeatedly with good results. I believe Pop saw what he wanted to see out of that and moved on to test other guys and other things. I think Pop did want to win, but the overall goal was to learn about his team and improve, for that he needed to see different guys. He was pretty laid back and unsurprised by the results. This truly was CIA Pop.

weebo
01-26-2016, 09:41 PM
NBA championships aren't won in January. How many times have we seen the Spurs get ass whipped by a favorite/title contender halfway through the season? It happens--it's a long season. Look at it like this, if the Spurs beat down the warriors come March at home, will it change anything in the end? Probably not.

cjw
01-26-2016, 09:49 PM
I'd rather lose the Warriors handily than lose the Knicks without Melo like the Thunder are about to do (as it relates to dropping games in the standings).