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SpursDynasty
01-27-2016, 02:00 PM
So everything I read is just a repeat of 2005-2007 when the run and gun Mavericks and Suns would have a good shooting night vs. the Spurs. "The Spurs are old" "The Spurs aren't good enough", etc. Then we proceeded to tear those franchises apart.

The Spurs have been counted out since 2006 and here they stand with the best start in franchise history 10 years later with the same core, only 1 1/2 years removed from a title.

Fudge statements all you want to make things look like you want them to look, the fact is this is only the Warriors' third win vs. the Spurs in the last 9 meetings. The Spurs were missing Duncan who at 39 years old is still one of the best defensive players in the league and still an actual All-Defensive Team player.

What makes Curry any different than Kobe, Amare Stoudemire, Shawn Marion, Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, Devin Harris, Kevin Durant, LeBron James and all the other guys who at one point or another had a hot shooting night vs. the Spurs but ultimately were brought down by us while we won titles?

Devin Harris was more impressive vs. the Spurs in 2006 than Curry :lol

-21-
01-27-2016, 02:04 PM
Don't necessarily agree with you but I appreciate the confidence.

benefactor
01-27-2016, 02:04 PM
Nice work.:lol

After this can you log onto your main and take Kools thread starting privileges away? Thanks in advance.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
01-27-2016, 02:05 PM
If the Spurs could allow Amare to score 38 ppg and still win a series, the same can be said for GS. Let Curry have his and shut down everyone else. This is exactly the strategy that the Spurs will use against GS in the playoffs.

MVPCues
01-27-2016, 02:10 PM
I guess I prefer your take than someone flat out saying the Spurs have no chance. However, this is just the opposite and so by definition still an extreme.

What does 2006 have to do with the 2016 Spurs and Warriors?

Regarding your last 9 meetings comment:
1. The last 4 meetings teams are 2-2.
2. Warriors are defending champs.
3. Warrors are winning at an all time pace, not simply a franchise record.

I have not given up on the Spurs. They are having a stellar year and could win. But, your take is rose colored glasses.

Trainwreck2100
01-27-2016, 02:32 PM
:lol all these newbs reading this won't know who one of the GOAT trolls is and this is a work.

Uriel
01-27-2016, 02:37 PM
Is that timvp?

8FOR!3
01-27-2016, 02:41 PM
We're going to have to put Green and Kawhi (whoever's not guarding Steph guards Barnes) on Steph and hide Parker on Klay Thompson. Unfortunately that could bite us in the ass. My only real worry is hiding Parker/Patty on defense. Patty SHOULD be able to stay with Barbosa.

YGWHI
01-27-2016, 02:45 PM
If the Spurs could allow Amare to score 38 ppg and still win a series, the same can be said for GS. Let Curry have his and shut down everyone else. This is exactly the strategy that the Spurs will use against GS in the playoffs.

The Spurs did it the last game...Warriors starting lineup: Curry 37 points, Thompson and Green each scored 11 points, Barnes and Bogut each scored just 4...and we still lost.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
01-27-2016, 02:56 PM
The Spurs did it the last game...Warriors starting lineup: Curry 37 points, Thompson and Green each scored 11 points, Barnes and Bogut each scored just 4...and we still lost.

No they didn't, they kept doubling and get caught on backdoor cuts. Eliminate backdoor cuts and cuts to the wing, and the Warrior offense goes stagnate. That is exactly how the Pistons beat them. Spurs didn't do that Monday night.

steeledl
01-27-2016, 03:03 PM
This niggas lost it.

cjw
01-27-2016, 03:10 PM
If the Spurs could allow Amare to score 38 ppg and still win a series, the same can be said for GS. Let Curry have his and shut down everyone else. This is exactly the strategy that the Spurs will use against GS in the playoffs.

06-07 Amare averaged 1.58 PPS which is even higher than Steph's 1.55, so not that crazy after all. But how do you shut down everyone else / know his PPS won't go up if you let off at all?

Also, add in turnovers and FT x 44% (Hollinger methodology) to get a proxy for possessions, and you get to 1.08 PPP for Amare and 1.19 for Curry. That's a more accurate representation (Amare's PPS inflated because of free throw attempts). And that's probably not fair to Curry, as he has more turnover opportunities given the position he plays. You can beat a team that's averaging 108 points per 100 possessions. You won't beat a team where someone's putting up 119.

YGWHI
01-27-2016, 03:11 PM
No they didn't, they kept doubling and get caught on backdoor cuts. Eliminate backdoor cuts and cuts to the wing, and the Warrior offense goes stagnate. That is exactly how the Pistons beat them. Spurs didn't do that Monday night.

In some of the backdoor cuts, Curry and Green were getting double teamed and passed to Livingston, you know what people say...pick your poison.

I shouldn't take things too literally but you said "shut down everyone else"...frankly, I don't expect their starters score just 10-4 points in every game of a series.

NameLess Scrub
01-27-2016, 03:32 PM
What makes Curry any different than Kobe, Amare Stoudemire, Shawn Marion, Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, Devin Harris, Kevin Durant, LeBron James and all the other guys who at one point or another had a hot shooting night vs. the Spurs but ultimately were brought down by us while we won titles?

He makes NBA Jam shots.

There's nothing the Spurs can do. Only the Warriors can beat themselves.

ElNono
01-27-2016, 03:41 PM
:cry still hurts tho

Fireball
01-27-2016, 03:46 PM
I hate to quote dabom ... but

:lmao

r0drig0lac
01-27-2016, 03:54 PM
almost 2 seasons is people are still underestimating gsw, impressive

look_at_g_shred
01-27-2016, 04:00 PM
I wonder what the result would have been if we went into that game coming off a loss rather than a 13 game winning streak. Perhaps the same result if we turned it over 20+.

Rain Man
01-27-2016, 04:17 PM
It's like talking to a brick wall with you guys. I'm an ahole for stating the obvious just because you generic spurfans refuse to see what's right in front of your faces. The Warriors and Curry are the TRUTH. Convert my brethren to Currstianity. The Spurs have shunned you and become false prophets. They draw you in with hopes of everlasting championships. It is false hope. You've been had! You've been took! You've been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok! You've let Pop pull the wool over your eyes!

TampaDude
01-27-2016, 04:28 PM
It's like talking to a brick wall with you guys. I'm an ahole for stating the obvious just because you generic spurfans refuse to see what's right in front of your faces. The Warriors and Curry are the TRUTH. Convert my brethren to Currstianity. The Spurs have shunned you and become false prophets. They draw you in with hopes of everlasting championships. It is false hope. You've been had! You've been took! You've been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok! You've let Pop pull the wool over your eyes!

LOL @ "Currstianity" :lol

Mikeanaro
01-27-2016, 04:28 PM
It's like talking to a brick wall with you guys. I'm an ahole for stating the obvious just because you generic spurfans refuse to see what's right in front of your faces. The Warriors and Curry are the TRUTH. Convert my brethren to Currstianity. The Spurs have shunned you and become false prophets. They draw you in with hopes of everlasting championships. It is false hope. You've been had! You've been took! You've been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok! You've let Pop pull the wool over your eyes!
Thats a blasphemy
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PeriPGQ8VcY/hqdefault.jpg

james evans
01-27-2016, 04:34 PM
I want u same naysayers in here after we beat them in the playoffs this year.

Rain Man
01-27-2016, 04:39 PM
LOL @ "Currstianity" :lol

Will you be baptized, brother? Recognize Kawhi as the Anti-Curry. He is a false idol. He brought down the King but only as a distraction. The one true King reigns and is blessed.

Rain Man
01-27-2016, 04:41 PM
I want u same naysayers in here after we beat them in the playoffs this year.

Open your eyes, brother. Should the Spurs make it to the WCF they will be swept. I too was once shrouded in black hoping for the silver lining. My eyes are now wide open just like the basket for The Chef.

daslicer
01-27-2016, 04:47 PM
It's like talking to a brick wall with you guys. I'm an ahole for stating the obvious just because you generic spurfans refuse to see what's right in front of your faces. The Warriors and Curry are the TRUTH. Convert my brethren to Currstianity. The Spurs have shunned you and become false prophets. They draw you in with hopes of everlasting championships. It is false hope. You've been had! You've been took! You've been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok! You've let Pop pull the wool over your eyes!

Yup this is a troll I called it earlier. Whatsup Lakers troll.

Rain Man
01-27-2016, 04:56 PM
Yup this is a troll I called it earlier. Whatsup Lakers troll.

I am most definitely not a Laker troll. If there is a team that I truly hate it would be the Lakers. Which is why I bought in with the Spurs and their made not bought promise. I could not stand the Lakers or cHeat for what they did. Then what do the Spurs do? They go out and get, what they believe to be, the equivalent of a franchise player. The Warriors on the other hand have been putting this team together for quite some time. A truly made team. A team that holds each other in high regard and truly cares for one another and it shows in their play. They recognize their leader and fully commit their loyalty to him because it means committing to the team.

Open your heart, brother.

Lakerfan you are welcome to join as well. Just do what is right and denounce the team that is full of pride, selfishness and greed.

daslicer
01-27-2016, 05:11 PM
I am most definitely not a Laker troll. If there is a team that I truly hate it would be the Lakers. Which is why I bought in with the Spurs and their made not bought promise. I could not stand the Lakers or cHeat for what they did. Then what do the Spurs do? They go out and get, what they believe to be, the equivalent of a franchise player. The Warriors on the other hand have been putting this team together for quite some time. A truly made team. A team that holds each other in high regard and truly cares for one another and it shows in their play. They recognize their leader and fully commit their loyalty to him because it means committing to the team.

Open your heart, brother.

Lakerfan you are welcome to join as well. Just do what is right and denounce the team that is full of pride, selfishness and greed.

You are a troll. A lakerfan pretending not be a troll how clever they are like a 100 incarnations of this type of troll :lol.

Arcadian
01-27-2016, 05:16 PM
Interesting analogy.

Even if the Warriors are better than the Mavs and Suns of the last decade, the Spurs are still more experienced. Remember, the Warriors look up to the Spurs, not the other way around.

Rain Man
01-27-2016, 05:19 PM
You are a troll. A lakerfan pretending not be a troll how clever they are like a 100 incarnations of this type of troll :lol.

I agree, there have been a number of laker trolls. I, however, am not one of them. I know that it is hard to believe, brother. I didn't want to admit it at first either. The reality is we will either convert and believe or be forced to live with heartache and despair.

dbreiden83080
01-27-2016, 06:42 PM
Duncan being out killed that game. They still lose but not by 30.. We embarrassed ourselves..

spurraider21
01-27-2016, 06:47 PM
I hate to quote dabom ... but

:lmao
:lmao faggot

Budkin
01-27-2016, 07:00 PM
Spurs "They were just shooting some shots" Dynasty. The Class of SpursTalk!

Frank Dux
01-27-2016, 07:02 PM
SpursDynasty just making some threads he supposed to make.

outmap
01-27-2016, 10:35 PM
We're going to have to put Green and Kawhi (whoever's not guarding Steph guards Barnes) on Steph and hide Parker on Klay Thompson. Unfortunately that could bite us in the ass. My only real worry is hiding Parker/Patty on defense. Patty SHOULD be able to stay with Barbosa.

Don't play either. Kawhi on Curry, Manu at Klay, and Green at Barnes.

UNT Eagles 2016
01-27-2016, 10:50 PM
If the Spurs could allow Amare to score 38 ppg and still win a series, the same can be said for GS. Let Curry have his and shut down everyone else. This is exactly the strategy that the Spurs will use against GS in the playoffs.
Problem is Amare only scored 2's and we won a lot of those by only a few points or so. Change a lot of those to 3's and we give up an additional 10 ppg to Curry and lose by about 5 instead of winning by about 5 tbh.

UNT Eagles 2016
01-27-2016, 10:50 PM
Don't play either. Kawhi on Curry, Manu at Klay, and Green at Barnes.
Play Anderson/Simmons at backup PG?

Kawhitstorm
01-27-2016, 11:58 PM
The best version of the Suns was the 2009-10 team when they actually played respectable defense but they got overwhelmed by the MVPau/Odumb/Bynum frontline.

cjw
01-28-2016, 12:00 AM
Problem is Amare only scored 2's and we won a lot of those by only a few points or so. Change a lot of those to 3's and we give up an additional 10 ppg to Curry and lose by about 5 instead of winning by about 5 tbh.

My point exactly from earlier. A lot different when a guy is putting up 110 (Stat) than 120 (Curry) points per 100 possessions.

UNT Eagles 2016
01-28-2016, 01:06 AM
The best version of the Suns was the 2009-10 team when they actually played respectable defense but they got overwhelmed by the MVPau/Odumb/Bynum frontline.

disagree, think their best iteration was the first one (04-05) because of the sheer explosive talent and shooting/scoring in that stacked starting lineup. Amaré was never the same after the first knee injury, he was still very good just a couple steps slower and not as dominant near the rim after 2005. That team didn't have much of a bench or defense though.


Sarver screwed the pooch by trading JJ for Diaw and Q-Rich for Kurt Thomas. I think they were good enough to win the championship with that original lineup, and they could have had Raja Bell and Tim Thomas for cheap regardless.

UNT Eagles 2016
01-28-2016, 01:09 AM
My point exactly from earlier. A lot different when a guy is putting up 110 (Stat) than 120 (Curry) points per 100 possessions.

this... imagine a Curry 3 for every electrifying STAT dunk in 2005. Suns would've taken it, it's not like STAT ever played defense anyways

Kawhitstorm
01-28-2016, 12:45 PM
disagree, think their best iteration was the first one (04-05) because of the sheer explosive talent and shooting/scoring in that stacked starting lineup. Amaré was never the same after the first knee injury, he was still very good just a couple steps slower and not as dominant near the rim after 2005. That team didn't have much of a bench or defense though.


Sarver screwed the pooch by trading JJ for Diaw and Q-Rich for Kurt Thomas. I think they were good enough to win the championship with that original lineup, and they could have had Raja Bell and Tim Thomas for cheap regardless.

Amare actually became a complete offensive player in 2009-10 after he added a Blake-ish mid-range shots. Besides, Q-Rich was a fuckin' gunner who was no better than Marcus Thornton.:lol In 2010 they had Grant Hill/Robin Lopez who were very good defenders & Channing Frye was the best stretch 5 in the league. Besides, Dudley was a decent 3 & D guy along w/ Jason Richardson playing out of his mind in the playoffs. Dragic was also a decent backup for Nash which was something they never had during his MVP years.

They were basically a Ron Artest putback at the buzzer away from going to the Finals after they stomped the Spurs as bad as any team during the Big 3 era.

DFYQmM7s1VY

UNT Eagles 2016
01-28-2016, 03:27 PM
Amare actually became a complete offensive player in 2009-10 after he added a Blake-ish mid-range shots. Besides, Q-Rich was a fuckin' gunner who was no better than Marcus Thornton.:lol In 2010 they had Grant Hill/Robin Lopez who were very good defenders & Channing Frye was the best stretch 5 in the league. Besides, Dudley was a decent 3 & D guy along w/ Jason Richardson playing out of his mind in the playoffs. Dragic was also a decent backup for Nash which was something they never had during his MVP years.

They were basically a Ron Artest putback at the buzzer away from going to the Finals after they stomped the Spurs as bad as any team during the Big 3 era.

DFYQmM7s1VY
Definitely the worst Spurs team in the big 3 era.

kawhidoyoudothistome
01-28-2016, 05:02 PM
I just believe home court is a huge factor. Think about it, both teams are undefeated at home. There's a reason for that. I mean, all we can do is wait until March and everyone will see. Timmy will hopefully not garner a DNP, and the screaming lady will carry us to victory.

Kawhitstorm
01-28-2016, 06:08 PM
Definitely the worst Spurs team in the big 3 era.

That 2010 Spurs squad bounced by the 2nd seed Mavs who went on the win the Chip w/ the same core after adding Chandler (actually Caron Butler was injured in 2011). That was also George Hills coming out party & Dick Jefferson was actually decent unlike 2011.:lol There wasn't much change b/w the 2009-10 & 2010-11 Spurs personnel wise either besides Gary Neal (Tony just missed a bunch of game in 2009-10)

Say what you want about the Spurs but the 2009-10 Suns were the best version of the 6 second or less squads.

dbestpro
01-28-2016, 06:20 PM
Playoffs are always more physical, as the teams get away with more aggressive defense. If that continues, I would not be surprised if the Warriors get bounced by a team like Memphis, should they get it going at the right time. There are no foregone conclusions. That is why they still play the game.

Kawhitstorm
01-28-2016, 06:23 PM
I just believe home court is a huge factor. Think about it, both teams are undefeated at home. There's a reason for that. I mean, all we can do is wait until March and everyone will see. Timmy will hopefully not garner a DNP, and the screaming lady will carry us to victory.

Spurs haven't yet played OKC/Worriers/Raptors/Bulls at home.:lol

For the Worriers, it's the match-up that have mattered more-so than home-court based on the Clippers, Raptors, Bucks, Nuggets, Pistons, Pacers & Mavs games. They eventually pulled out wins against those teams at home in the 4th quarter but they either lost or won a close game on the road.