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JohnnyMax
02-08-2016, 11:01 PM
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Thread
02-08-2016, 11:39 PM
Nice of the Thunder to cloud up and rain all over the Suns.
JMarkJohns
02-08-2016, 11:57 PM
Suns are awful, but they are finally seeing what they have in Goodwin.

He's 21 and just put up 20-7-4 vs Westbrook.

They seriously need to trade Knight and/or Bledsoe.

Just let Goodwin and Booker play 30 minutes nightly for next two years.

Sort it out after you give them a legit chance.
LakerHater
02-09-2016, 12:08 AM
Timothy Mozgov
tlongII
02-09-2016, 12:44 AM
Blazers.
Splits
02-09-2016, 03:59 AM
Nice of the Thunder to cloud up and rain all over the Suns.

What did you think of 12 putting up 6/25?
UNT Eagles 2016
02-09-2016, 04:17 AM
Blazers.
Going to be interesting who gets the 8th seed between Utah/Portland. One team will probably win about 45, the other like 42-43
MI21
02-09-2016, 04:25 AM
Blazers.

They are going ok, imagine if they had a decent offensive threat up front? Does anyone know of a player like that?
Thread
02-09-2016, 06:24 AM
What did you think of 12 putting up 6/25?

I don't do "12." I leave that to you children.
Thread
02-09-2016, 06:25 AM
Suns are awful, but they are finally seeing what they have in Goodwin.

He's 21 and just put up 20-7-4 vs Westbrook.

They seriously need to trade Knight and/or Bledsoe.

Just let Goodwin and Booker play 30 minutes nightly for next two years.

Sort it out after you give them a legit chance.

The word is out on Booker.
JMarkJohns
02-09-2016, 07:48 AM
Word is out on the youngest player in the NBA?

I'm not worried.
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02-09-2016, 10:59 AM
Word is out on the youngest player in the NBA?

I'm not worried.

Me too. Well, I'm less worried than I was.
illmatic
02-09-2016, 11:16 AM
Me too. Well, I'm less worried than I was.

The kid is good, he just needs to stay healthy.
Thread
02-09-2016, 11:18 AM
The kid is good, he just needs to stay healthy.

& evolve. If he can't evolve, and then re-evolve he's dead meat. Get a body bag, yeah.
illmatic
02-09-2016, 11:28 AM
& evolve. If he can't evolve, and then re-evolve he's dead meat. Get a body bag, yeah.

He has a jumpshot and a high basketball IQ. He's shown maturity at 19 years old, I think we have ourselves a keeper. Sky is the limit for Booker.
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02-09-2016, 11:40 AM
He has a jumpshot and a high basketball IQ. He's shown maturity at 19 years old, I think we have ourselves a keeper. Sky is the limit for Booker.

I got my fingers, toes, & countless pubics crossed that it ain't so. I want him to auger in from about 5,000 feet.
illmatic
02-09-2016, 11:48 AM
He's the only hope to cling to with this dreary organization.
JMarkJohns
02-09-2016, 03:51 PM
I got my fingers, toes, & countless pubics crossed that it ain't so. I want him to auger in from about 5,000 feet.

Body contortion by be your only hope. Suns suck, but are giving serious play to the youngest backcourt duo in NBA history, where each has scored significant totals and notched career highs in recent weeks.

Gonna have to see.
Thread
02-09-2016, 03:53 PM
Body contortion by be your only hope. Suns suck, but are giving serious play to the youngest backcourt duo in NBA history, where each has scored significant totals and notched career highs in recent weeks.

Gonna have to see.

Can't wait for Knight to return and slip a monkey wrench in there. And they can't keep him out forever. Knights agent won't brook it.

And if that doesn't do the trick when stinkpot Bledsoe returns in October he'll reestablish the pecking order and I should be right as the mail.
JMarkJohns
02-09-2016, 04:01 PM
Can't wait for Knight to return and slip a monkey wrench in there. And they can't keep him out forever. Knights agent won't brook it.

And if that doesn't do the trick when stinkpot Bledsoe returns in October he'll reestablish the pecking order and I should be right as the mail.

All true, plus Sarver is always good for a WTF?!

But, Sarver's cheapassery may actually see this thing through since both are the value right now, both are young, exciting, likeable, and are own draft picks, so they feel homegrown to the community.

I'd expect a huge sell off this offseason when everyone will have money and there simply will not be the talent to go around. The friendly contracts of Knight, Morris, Chandler will look pretty nice in the upcoming arms race.

Maybe even Bledsoe.
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02-09-2016, 04:04 PM
All true, plus Sarver is always good for a WTF?!

But, Sarver's cheapassery may actually see this thing through since both are the value right now, both are young, exciting, likeable, and are own draft picks, so they feel homegrown to the community.

I'd expect a huge sell off this offseason when everyone will have money and there simply will not be the talent to go around. The friendly contracts of Knight, Morris, Chandler will look pretty nice in the upcoming arms race.

Maybe even Bledsoe.

They'll have to take the safety off the gun,,,and I do not believe they'll be able to make themselves. They want to keep all that shit, + new shit. They love it.
JMarkJohns
02-09-2016, 04:09 PM
Probably.

But as a Suns fan, it's my only hope for Goodwin/Booker backcourt.
Thread
02-09-2016, 04:15 PM
Probably.

But as a Suns fan, it's my only hope for Goodwin/Booker backcourt.

Goodwin can't play PG, JM. No way. You could put Knight or Bledsoe there, move Booker up front, then put Goodwin at SG.
JMarkJohns
02-09-2016, 06:48 PM
I sort of agree, though I think Goodwin has a good bit of Wade to his game.

I'm not a fan of Bledsoe or Knight as PG, as both are ball dominant.

If I had to pick, I suppose Knight, since in theory he can shoot.

Or see if their pick this year can net them a good shooting PG who doesn't need the ball to be effective.
Kawhitstorm
02-09-2016, 06:56 PM
If I had to pick, I suppose Knight, since in theory he can shoot.


Knight is Austin Rivers status when he's running the point:lol

JrK2Fv1s0qk
Thread
02-09-2016, 07:01 PM
^Good find, Shitstorm.

LOL.
JMarkJohns
02-09-2016, 07:10 PM
Knight is Austin Rivers status when he's running the point:lol

JrK2Fv1s0qk

Agreed. Like I said, if I had to pick.

I actually wouldn't mind trying to turn Goodwin into a PG and surrounding him with shooters.

At least short-term.
illmatic
02-09-2016, 07:15 PM
They'll have to take the safety off the gun,,,and I do not believe they'll be able to make themselves. They want to keep all that shit, + new shit. They love it.

It's gotta be boring for you lately with the Suns, you're only worry is the Cardinals and possibly D-Backs.
Thread
02-09-2016, 07:15 PM
Agreed. Like I said, if I had to pick.

I actually wouldn't mind trying to turn Goodwin into a PG and surrounding him with shooters.

At least short-term.

See, this is the problem. You want to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. It won't work. Making a PG out of a SG who wants nothing to do with such machination. Trying to run a two PG system when it's been an abject failure. Rehabbing an arch criminal and mastermind of a coaches destruction in the face of a fan base who is telling you "No."

You're trying to reinvent the wheel. Just make the best wheel.
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02-09-2016, 07:17 PM
It's gotta be boring for you lately with the Suns, you're only worry is the Cardinals and possibly D-Backs.

& the fuckin' D-Backs start up. SOB. Could be a big problem come Fall. + I have to hear all the optimism till then. I'll go out of my mind with it.

My consternation never ends, ill.
illmatic
02-09-2016, 07:21 PM
See, this is the problem. You want to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. It won't work. Making a PG out of a SG who wants nothing to do with such machination. Trying to run a two PG system when it's been an abject failure. Rehabbing an arch criminal and mastermind of a coaches destruction in the face of a fan base who is telling you "No."

You're trying to reinvent the wheel. Just make the best wheel.

Goodwin's happy now because he's getting PT, however, I don't think he wants to be full time PG, nor do I want him to be. We need someone with a higher IQ to be the point.
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02-09-2016, 07:28 PM
Goodwin's happy now because he's getting PT, however, I don't think he wants to be full time PG, nor do I want him to be. We need someone with a higher IQ to be the point.

And that is the only reason.

They have no PG to take his place and they don't want Knight coming in an gumming up the works now. He may raise Hell though. That's what I'm waiting for.
illmatic
02-09-2016, 07:30 PM
And that is the only reason.

They have no PG to take his place and they don't want Knight coming in an gumming up the works now. He may raise Hell though. That's what I'm waiting for.

Nah, Knight isn't militant like your boy Bledsoe, you know this.
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02-09-2016, 07:32 PM
Nah, Knight isn't militant like your boy Bledsoe, you know this.

No, but, his agent ain't no country preacher. If they disable him to season's end I'll be a monkey's ass.
illmatic
02-09-2016, 07:35 PM
No, but, his agent ain't no country preacher. If they disable him to season's end I'll be a monkey's ass.

Does his agent have a history that I don't know about? It's not like we're dealing with Rich Paul. Christ, if that were the case I'd throw up the white flag.
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02-09-2016, 07:37 PM
Does his agent have a history that I don't know about? It's not like we're dealing with Rich Paul. Christ, if that were the case I'd throw up the white flag.

No, but, he ain't going to let the rug be pulled on his client like that...unless he gets assurances on the other side (October). If he stays out till season's end a deal has been made. Not a trade, but, an accommodation.
JMarkJohns
02-09-2016, 11:46 PM
See, this is the problem. You want to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. It won't work. Making a PG out of a SG who wants nothing to do with such machination. Trying to run a two PG system when it's been an abject failure. Rehabbing an arch criminal and mastermind of a coaches destruction in the face of a fan base who is telling you "No."

You're trying to reinvent the wheel. Just make the best wheel.

How many teams have ideal PGs?

I truly understand what you're saying, but even Steph Curry was a SG who could pass until be developed into a PG.

PG is a weird position anymore. Top impact guys aren't traditional. Almost all are ball dominant if not score first. Even the ones that do pass before shooting hardly pass unless it's for an assist.

Ideally, yeah, Goodwin is developed as a wing.

But having a slasher at PG with wings spread wide from range isn't so unideal it can't work.

After all, there are all sorts of wheels in the world.
HBK
02-09-2016, 11:47 PM
fuck steph curry is unreal
HBK
02-09-2016, 11:51 PM
both teams hack a bullshitting now