Monty Williams' Wife Killed in Car Crash

[BatManu20]

Horrible. RIP.

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[Pelicans78]

Awful news. He's a real good guy.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Sucks because it's tough to find an adequate replacement in OKC, the city with the ugliest females in the US. Maybe he can find some cute young thing on a road trip who will go for his money. Idk.


Thank goodness I don't drive a car. Driving is dangerous.

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Did the Cavs play at OKC last night?

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[spursistan]

RIP..

[baseline bum]

Did the Cavs play at OKC last night?

http://i.imgur.com/sIY0Eqz.jpg

[Mel_13]

Horrible. Just horrible.

[spursparker9]

Did the Cavs play at OKC last night?

:lol

[LkrFan]

Damn. Condolences to Monty and his family. :(

[BatManu20]

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[DeRozan m8]

Thats shattering

[DMC]

Paul Flannery @Pflanns (https://twitter.com/Pflanns)

Everyone who's been around Monty Williams knows how much his family means to him. Just devastating.


Well no shit. I guess other people don't really give a shit.

[unleashbaynes]

Knowing what he did for Ryan Anderson in his time of need......this hurts.

[Jenks]

That's awful to hear. Please don't drink or do meth and drive.

[benefactor]

God damn man...that's fucked up. I feel terrible for him and his kids. RIP.

[Chinook]

Killed by a woman with a dog riding on her lap. Damned shame

[01Snake]

Met her once after watching dipshit Monty back into my car when they lived in the apartment next to me while he was with the Spurs. Went over to confront him and the guy called me a liar and basically wanted to come out and throw down but Ingrid grabbed his ass and yanked him back inside the apartment. Prick left me with about $600 in damage to pay for while in college.

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Killed by a woman with a dog riding on her lap. Damned shame

Just for the record was the Williams woman strapped in?

[Chinook]

Just for the record was the Williams woman strapped in?

No idea. But the wreck was bad enough that all three of them were killed, so I imagine that the belt wasn't the issue.

[ambchang]

Always hate it when things like this happens.

And things like this happens everyday.

Condolences to the Williams.

[DMC]

No idea. But the wreck was bad enough that all three of them were killed, so I imagine that the belt wasn't the issue.
Doggone

[FkLA]

Damn that's sad. RIP.

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& of course Popovich insists on showing his fuckin' ass in the midst of so much agony.

Typical.

[[[with a tissue in one hand, tears in his eyes and remnants of tears wiped away as he addressed the media.
"I'd rather talk about basketball," Popovich said. "The personal stuff's none of your business."]]]

[InTheCrust]

^good God, no respite even for a night. It could have waited till tomorrow morning.

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^good God, no respite even for a night. It could have waited till tomorrow morning.

Who, me, or Popovich?

[InTheCrust]

Who, me, or Popovich?

:rolleyes

[Chillen]

All car accidents are caused by driver error, so the 55 year old woman driving with her dog on her lap probably caused the whole head on collision. The dog probably moved or something, causing the woman to lose control of the vehicle. It's pretty stupid to drive with your dog on your lap, this is very tragic but his wife was just sadly in the wrong place at the wrong time. Very tragic, so sad. My heart goes out to everyone that was killed, even the dog. His wife though would probably still be alive if that driver wasn't so foolish to be driving with her dog on her lap, that's why there are pet carriers. Drive responsibly people.

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All car accidents are caused by driver error, so the 55 year old woman driving with her dog on her lap probably caused the whole head on collision. The dog probably moved or something, causing the woman to lose control of the vehicle. It's pretty stupid to drive with your dog on your lap, this is very tragic but his wife was just sadly in the wrong place at the wrong time. Very tragic, so sad. My heart goes out to everyone that was killed, even the dog. His wife though would probably still be alive if that driver wasn't so foolish to be driving with her dog on her lap, that's why there are pet carriers. Drive responsibly people.

lol.

[HarlemHeat37]

My aunt was in a major accident, 2 years ago, because she was driving with her dog in her lap:lol..

She went through the windshield and the dog went flying(tiny breed) way in front of her..the dog and the passenger were fine, as was the person in the other car, but she broke a bunch of bones and lost her memory..it took her like a year to resume normal life..that's what you get for being an idiot..

[100%duncan]

Sad tbh. RIP.

[Trainwreck2100]

Just for the record was the Williams woman strapped in?

it was a head on collision on the highway

[hater]

Rip. Teri bl news

[Reck]

Women drivers...

Seriously though, these preppy old ladies who think they're living in the 1920s with their dogs everywhere they go should be put into homes. No business driving at all.

RIP wife.

[DMC]

My aunt was in a major accident, 2 years ago, because she was driving with her dog in her lap:lol..

She went through the windshield and the dog went flying(tiny breed) way in front of her..the dog and the passenger were fine, as was the person in the other car, but she broke a bunch of bones and lost her memory..it took her like a year to resume normal life..that's what you get for being an idiot..
You and I have differing ideas on what "fine" means. lol

[DMC]

^good God, no respite even for a night. It could have waited till tomorrow morning.
He'll bail on a game but not on this. The opening was too wide (like his hole).

[ElNono]

rip

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He'll bail on a game but not on this. The opening was too wide (like his hole).

And yet you cite me as the sagest of all LF's.

Fuckin' Popovich had to lecture in the midst of all those tears. ha.

[DMC]

And yet you cite me as the sagest of all LF's.

Fuckin' Popovich had to lecture in the midst of all those tears. ha.

Regulate yourself or I'll do it for you, sparky.

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Regulate yourself or I'll do it for you, sparky.

Come hard, else stay on the porch with the women folk.

[chunticakes]

RIP dog. :cry

[DMC]

Come hard, else stay on the porch with the women folk.

Bend over, I'll come hard.

[Frank Dux]

Paul Flannery @Pflanns (https://twitter.com/Pflanns)

Everyone who's been around Monty Williams knows how much his family means to him. Just devastating.


Well no shit. I guess other people don't really give a shit.


Yeah, because if there's one thing history has shown us, it's that all the guys in the NBA are committed and loyal family men.

[DMC]

Yeah, because if there's one thing history has shown us, it's that all the guys in the NBA are committed and loyal family men.

I get that if it's about not showing up to a birthday bash, but when your wife dies in a car crash and you have 5 kids who no longer have a mother, it's not hard to find people who's family means a lot to them.

If he was a white man no one would ever think to make that stupid qualifier about how he cared for his family.

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Yeah, because if there's one thing history has shown us, it's that all the guys in the NBA are committed and loyal family men.

That dog ain't even cold yet and look at ya.

[Frank Dux]

I get that if it's about not showing up to a birthday bash, but when your wife dies in a car crash and you have 5 kids who no longer have a mother, it's not hard to find people who's family means a lot to them.

If he was a white man no one would ever think to make that stupid qualifier about how he cared for his family.

No, it's not. There are plenty of men in this country who don't give two shits about their family. Of course they'll cry if one of them dies, but that doesn't mean family meant a lot to them. Not everybody is a family man, especially not in the NBA. People who know Williams say he is. There are probably few scenarios like being an NBA player that can show your true colors in that regard. People seem to respect the guy.

The race-baiting is a little silly. I've heard plenty of white guys referred to as family men.

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[Brazil]

& of course Popovich insists on showing his fuckin' ass in the midst of so much agony.

Typical.

[[[with a tissue in one hand, tears in his eyes and remnants of tears wiped away as he addressed the media.
"I'd rather talk about basketball," Popovich said. "The personal stuff's none of your business."]]]


You are on the being a dumbass business now ?

You are a terrible human being tbh

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You are on the being a dumbass business now ?

You are a terrible human being tbh

Yep. I caught this tidbit of Popovich tiptoein' & called him on it. It was a blatant self serving comment over a dead body.

& if you don't like me, Bra, don't address me.

[TampaDude]

Yep. I caught this tidbit of Popovich tiptoein' & called him on it. It was a blatant self serving comment over a dead body.

& if you don't like me, Bra, don't address me.

What exactly did Pop say that irked you?

[Brazil]

Yep. I caught this tidbit of Popovich tiptoein' & called him on it. It was a blatant self serving comment over a dead body.

& if you don't like me, Bra, don't address me.

Your comment was dumb, baseless, totally stupid and disrespectful... I despite you for not having a minimum of decency

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What exactly did Pop say that irked you?

Mixing his tears with a quaint troll of Media.

Of course you don't see that because to you Popovich can do no wrong. It can only be good. If it's bad you can't face that so you condemn the materiel, and/or the materiel supplier. Fucking ridiculous & childish.

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Your comment was dumb, baseless, totally stupid and disrespectful... I despite you for not having a minimum of decency

Then, like I said,,,address me no more.

[TampaDude]

Mixing his tears with a quaint troll of Media.

Of course you don't see that because to you Popovich can do no wrong. It can only be good. If it's bad you can't face that so you condemn the materiel, and/or the materiel supplier. Fucking ridiculous & childish.

I didn't see that because I didn't watch the interview. Unlike some people on here, my life is not entirely consumed by the minutiae of the National Basketball Association.

[.G.]

No idea. But the wreck was bad enough that all three of them were killed, so I imagine that the belt wasn't the issue.

The dog died, TOO!?!?!?! Godfuckingdammit, life is never fair.

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I didn't see that because I didn't watch the interview. Unlike some people on here, my life is not entirely consumed by the minutiae of the National Basketball Association.

You don't have to see it to appreciate it. I gave it to you verbatim. He could not resist taking a moment for himself & wisecrack Media. That was not the time to piggishly take such a privilege. He could not resist. Could not stop himself. So, he indulged his baser instinct.

I spotted it, and brought it to The Forum.

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The dog died, TOO!?!?!?! Godfuckingdammit, life is never fair.

And this country's knuckleheads won't stop till the dog is honored & laid to rest. And Media will self crush in the stampede to make damn sure the knuckleheads are heard & obeyed.

It'll be some pertinently placed aside, like, something like this:::"It's not the dog's fault for being on her lap, and it's not even her fault for having the dog on her lap. It's not against law in that state to have an animal on your lap when driving. It used to be, but, a new law was past on June 11, 1986 by the unicameral to change the original law. She was an elderly person who bought the dog to arrest her loneliness. Kareef Abdul Afar, the Humane Society adjunct director remembers Mrs. Smith as a carrying person when she adopted the dog. "She very nice, how you say, person. Yes, I come to America to escape the Nazi's. I love America. Excuse me I have to get into my Wikieup and pray toward the East, Martha's Vineyard I think. Chow."

"Mr. Addul Afar has worked for the county's Animal Shelter/Human Society for six months and makes $85,000 a year plus bonuses and health insurance/private health insurance."

- "Amy Duncan reporting 'News 3 in the Evening.'"

[.G.]

Reminiscent of that time Avery Johnson walked out on an interview after learning of the death of Bobby Phills, whose Porsche veered onto oncoming traffic after drag racing Wesley Davis. Niggas were doing a hundy in a 45. Fake and lame, Avery...

[.G.]

And this country's knuckleheads won't stop till the dog is honored & laid to rest. And Media will self crush in the stampede to make damn sure the knuckleheads are heard & obeyed.

It'll be some pertinently placed aside, like, something like this:::"It's not the dog's fault for being on her lap, and it's not even her fault for having the dog on her lap. It's not against law in that state to have an animal on your lap when driving. It used to be, but, a new law was past on June 11, 1986 by the unicameral to change the original law. She was an elderly person who bought the dog to arrest her loneliness. Kareef Abdul Afar, the Humane Society adjunct director remembers Mrs. Smith as a carrying person when she adopted the dog. "She very nice, how you say, person. Yes, I come to America to escape the Nazi's. I love America. Excuse me I have to get into my Wikieup and pray toward the East, Martha's Vineyard I think. Chow."

"Mr. Addul Afar has worked for the county's Animal Shelter/Human Society for six months and makes $85,000 a year plus bonuses and health insurance/private health insurance."

- "Amy Duncan reporting 'News 3 in the Evening.'"

Blame it on the Universe.

[Brazil]

Then, like I said,,,address me no more.

fine

and old fart go fuck yourself

[illusioNtEk]

Wtf. I just saw him on the bench the other day when OKC was playing the dubs! Unreal!

[TampaDude]

You don't have to see it to appreciate it. I gave it to you verbatim. He could not resist taking a moment for himself & wisecrack Media. That was not the time to piggishly take such a privilege. He could not resist. Could not stop himself. So, he indulged his baser instinct.

I spotted it, and brought it to The Forum.

Wow...you are like those self-serving race hustlers, always looking for injustice where none exists, and failing to find it, making something up out of whole cloth just to further some psychotic agenda of divisiveness and perpetual victimhood.

Here's some advice: Life sucks, get a fucking helmet.

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fine

and old fart go fuck yourself

C'mon, Bra, let's bury the old proverbials. I've known your acquaintance for nigh on 8 years. You've said things that have enraged me and I've let them pass, after I took it out on the wife.

What say, old horse?

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Wow...you are like those self-serving race hustlers, always looking for injustice where none exists, and failing to find it, making something up out of whole cloth just to further some psychotic agenda of divisiveness and perpetual victimhood.

Here's some advice: Life sucks, get a fucking helmet.

Like I asserted:::I knew you could see no bad in Popovich. You're incapable. And that's just the way it is, Dude.

[TampaDude]

Like I asserted:::I knew you could see no bad in Popovich. You're incapable. And that's just the way it is, Dude.

I'd run you and your entire family over with an Abrams tank to deliver a pizza to Popovich's distant cousin, so yeah...

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I'd run you and your entire family over with an Abrams tank to deliver a pizza to Popovich's distant cousin, so yeah...

The first time an Abrams tank crossed American soil to murder Americans was the last time. McVeigh saw to that.

[TampaDude]

The first time an Abrams tank crossed American soil to murder Americans was the last time. McVeigh saw to that.

I hear ya, brah. I don't necessarily condone what Timothy McVeigh did, but I understand it.

[DPG21920]

Like I asserted:::I knew you could see no bad in Popovich. You're incapable. And that's just the way it is, Dude.

What does that say about you that during something sad, you looked for an opportunity to scoreboard and grandstand/troll? You're no better than what you claim from Pop.

[DMC]

No, it's not. There are plenty of men in this country who don't give two shits about their family. Of course they'll cry if one of them dies, but that doesn't mean family meant a lot to them. Not everybody is a family man, especially not in the NBA. People who know Williams say he is. There are probably few scenarios like being an NBA player that can show your true colors in that regard. People seem to respect the guy.

The race-baiting is a little silly. I've heard plenty of white guys referred to as family men.
But commenting on how someone cared for the wife that died... that's pointless.

I'm sure you've heard white guys referred to as family men, but not after their wife was killed in a traffic accident.

[DMC]

Mixing his tears with a quaint troll of Media.

Of course you don't see that because to you Popovich can do no wrong. It can only be good. If it's bad you can't face that so you condemn the materiel, and/or the materiel supplier. Fucking ridiculous & childish.

You cannot cry foul then use circular reasoning to shield yourself from the backlash. You opened your mouth too soon and got it popped. Just walk it off.

[DMC]

You don't have to see it to appreciate it. I gave it to you verbatim. He could not resist taking a moment for himself & wisecrack Media. That was not the time to piggishly take such a privilege. He could not resist. Could not stop himself. So, he indulged his baser instinct.

I spotted it, and brought it to The Forum.

I'd think you were referring to yourself here.

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I'd think you were referring to yourself here.

No. I was perusing that article in a leisurely fashion. La, de, da, la, de da.......when I spotted it. I rubbed my eyes to clear the cataracts, leaned in close and read it again. I tripped over myself lodging it here.

I busted Popovich.

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What does that say about you that during something sad, you looked for an opportunity to scoreboard and grandstand/troll? You're no better than what you claim from Pop.

I have nothing to say to you, Deeps. You took a cheap shot at me.

[DPG21920]

I have nothing to say to you, Deeps. You took a cheap shot at me.

Explain what was cheap about it. I took a shot. It was not cheap. It was honest and direct and I treated you fairly in the moment so there should be no complaints.

[Frank Dux]

But commenting on how someone cared for the wife that died... that's pointless.

I'm sure you've heard white guys referred to as family men, but not after their wife was killed in a traffic accident.

It's not pointless. Apparently he cared about his wife, to the point that his colleagues noticed.

Still not buying the race-baiting angle.

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Explain what was cheap about it. I took a shot. It was not cheap. It was honest and direct and I treated you fairly in the moment so there should be no complaints.

That's BS. I've never treated you like that. Just leave me be.

[Spurtacular]

Met her once after watching dipshit Monty back into my car when they lived in the apartment next to me while he was with the Spurs. Went over to confront him and the guy called me a liar and basically wanted to come out and throw down but Ingrid grabbed his ass and yanked him back inside the apartment. Prick left me with about $600 in damage to pay for while in college.

Odds of this being for real?

[Spurtacular]

My aunt was in a major accident, 2 years ago, because she was driving with her dog in her lap:lol..

She went through the windshield and the dog went flying(tiny breed) way in front of her..the dog and the passenger were fine, as was the person in the other car, but she broke a bunch of bones and lost her memory..it took her like a year to resume normal life..that's what you get for being an idiot..

STFU

[DMC]

No. I was perusing that article in a leisurely fashion. La, de, da, la, de da.......when I spotted it. I rubbed my eyes to clear the cataracts, leaned in close and read it again. I tripped over myself lodging it here.

I busted Popovich.
You didn't even see the interview.

[01Snake]

Odds of this being for real?

Why in the fuck would I make up a story like that? :rolleyes

[Spurtacular]

Why in the fuck would I make up a story like that? :rolleyes

Good question. Now, give us the answer.

[Splits]

The first time an Abrams tank crossed American soil to murder Americans was the last time. McVeigh saw to that.

What do you think of your other boy (Bundy the elder) getting nabbed in Portland last night?

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What do you think of your other boy (Bundy the elder) getting nabbed in Portland last night?

I haven't kept up with that case.

[Splits]

I haven't kept up with that case.

You should read up on it. You'd probably admire him as much as you do McVeigh

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You should read up on it. You'd probably admire him as much as you do McVeigh

Fat chance. McVeigh is an American hero.

[DPG21920]

That's BS. I've never treated you like that. Just leave me be.

That is BS. The "nary a cent' when you know damn well it's wrong was cheap and opportunistic.

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That is BS. The "nary a cent' when you know damn well it's wrong was cheap and opportunistic.

& you accepted that stance from me. If you didn't want to accept that you should have spoke up, and/or rid yourself of me. Don't come back now several years later and start renegotiation. I told you then that it was wrong to take a dollar from any of our members. I wouldn't a done it. No fuckin' way. Wagering money with "friends" leads to nothing but trouble. Never fails.

Now I find out the lofty principle you based your condemnation of me the past 3 days is in fact this gd wager.

Do what you want, Deeps. If a relationship with me (as is) is not enough for you then so be it. Mori hasn't cared enough to capitulate. I'm sure you're just as stubborn.

[Brazil]

C'mon, Bra, let's bury the old proverbials. I've known your acquaintance for nigh on 8 years. You've said things that have enraged me and I've let them pass, after I took it out on the wife.

What say, old horse?

Fine with me old chap'

As I said your post about Pop is wrong... dude is a human being, Monty is a good friend of him, he probably knows very well the whole family... but yeah let's move on, I've passed the age to keep bitterness on that kind of stuff

[140]

C'mon, Bra, let's bury the old proverbials. I've known your acquaintance for nigh on 8 years. You've said things that have enraged me and I've let them pass, after I took it out on the wife.

What say, old horse?


Fine with me old chap'

As I said your post about Pop is wrong... dude is a human being, Monty is a good friend of him, he probably knows very well the whole family... but yeah let's move on, I've passed the age to keep bitterness on that kind of stuff

Good stuff gents :toast

[Killakobe81]

And this country's knuckleheads won't stop till the dog is honored & laid to rest. And Media will self crush in the stampede to make damn sure the knuckleheads are heard & obeyed.

It'll be some pertinently placed aside, like, something like this:::"It's not the dog's fault for being on her lap, and it's not even her fault for having the dog on her lap. It's not against law in that state to have an animal on your lap when driving. It used to be, but, a new law was past on June 11, 1986 by the unicameral to change the original law. She was an elderly person who bought the dog to arrest her loneliness. Kareef Abdul Afar, the Humane Society adjunct director remembers Mrs. Smith as a carrying person when she adopted the dog. "She very nice, how you say, person. Yes, I come to America to escape the Nazi's. I love America. Excuse me I have to get into my Wikieup and pray toward the East, Martha's Vineyard I think. Chow."

"Mr. Addul Afar has worked for the county's Animal Shelter/Human Society for six months and makes $85,000 a year plus bonuses and health insurance/private health insurance."

- "Amy Duncan reporting 'News 3 in the Evening.'"

I feel for Monty and his kids ...
But damn, Cully you get in these zones where I dont know whether to laugh, shake my head or close my phone. You are a marvel sick and twisted at times but a marvel.

[Killakobe81]

It's not pointless. Apparently he cared about his wife, to the point that his colleagues noticed.

Still not buying the race-baiting angle.

And you shouldn't. I don't know how it's relevant even if you buy in to the most black men dont care for their kids stereo-type (which has some truth to it) I dont think anyone was playing the race card in that moment. I believe the mention of his family man status was sincere by all of those who did so ...

[DMC]

I feel for Monty and his kids ...
But damn, Cully you get in these zones where I dont know whether to laugh, shake my head or close my phone. You are a marvel sick and twisted at times but a marvel.
12 really fucked him up.

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Fine with me old chap'

As I said your post about Pop is wrong... dude is a human being, Monty is a good friend of him, he probably knows very well the whole family... but yeah let's move on, I've passed the age to keep bitterness on that kind of stuff

Excellent.

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I feel for Monty and his kids ...
But damn, Cully you get in these zones where I dont know whether to laugh, shake my head or close my phone. You are a marvel sick and twisted at times but a marvel.

Kind words, Killa. Thank ya kindly.

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12 really fucked him up.

I don't do "12." I leave that to you children.

[DMC]

I don't do "12." I leave that to you children.

You've done it. You just haven't admitted it. It's fucked with you, D. you know it. It's caused you to tighten your belt a notch.

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You've done it. You just haven't admitted it. It's fucked with you, D. you know it. It's caused you to tighten your belt a notch.

I don't do "12." I leave that to you children.

[Brazil]

Good stuff gents :toast

:tu

[Killakobe81]

You've done it. You just haven't admitted it. It's fucked with you, D. you know it. It's caused you to tighten your belt a notch.

Not sure where you get 12 has anyone messed up ...it bothered Kool and maybe Luva but most other Lakers posters here have hardly spoke to it. I see more consternation upstairs over Duncan's place then I see down here. Cully ingored it. Ashy said it was just about right as did I. I have Kobe top 10 because I dont do Wilt, Russell and Oscar. IF i did and saw them play He would probably be 12th or close to it for me as well. it's a ranking fun to discuss. I dont even get Amb's issues with Moses and David's spots. Moses is underrated on ESPN probably slightly overrated on SI imho. But who cares about a couple spots?
Both lists got the top 5 mostly right.

[DMC]

Not sure where you get 12 has anyone messed up ...it bothered Kool and maybe Luva but most other Lakers posters here have hardly spoke to it. I see more consternation upstairs over Duncan's place then I see down here. Cully ingored it. Ashy said it was just about right as did I. I have Kobe top 10 because I dont do Wilt, Russell and Oscar. IF i did and saw them play He would probably be 12th or close to it for me as well. it's a ranking fun to discuss. I dont even get Amb's issues with Moses and David's spots. Moses is underrated on ESPN probably slightly overrated on SI imho. But who cares about a couple spots?
Both lists got the top 5 mostly right.
Stopped reading at that

[Killakobe81]

Stopped reading at that

Stop lying. I know you you read that shit if just to find something to throw in my face later ... you live for that shit.

[DMC]

Stop lying. I know you you read that shit if just to find something to throw in my face later ... you live for that shit.

No, you can't say "not sure where you get 12 has messed anyone up" then go on to say a couple who it has messed up. That's messed up. I didn't read the rest.

[Killakobe81]

No, you can't say "not sure where you get 12 has messed anyone up" then go on to say a couple who it has messed up. That's messed up. I didn't read the rest.

Bothered and messed up are two different words with different meanings.

Messed up
a. A cluttered, untidy, usually dirty place or condition: The kitchen was a mess.
b. Something that is disorderly or dirty, as a accumulation or heap: Who left the mess on the kitchen floor?
2.
a. A confused, troubling, or embarrassing condition or situation: With divorce and bankruptcy proceedings pending, his personal life was in a mess.
b. One that is in such a condition: They made a mess of their marriage. Her boyfriend is a real mess.

Bothered
To cause to be irritated, especially by repeated acts; trouble or annoy: "I spoke French badly. So I always replied to him in English. This didn't bother him" (Paul Theroux). See Synonyms at annoy.
2. To make agitated or perplexed; upset: "Jerry could see ... how much the doctor had been bothered by the failure of the first surgery" (Rick Bass).
3. To intrude on without warrant or invitation; disturb: "When I saw him slumped in a chair, deep in thought, I decided not to bother him" (Pat Toomay).
4. To give discomfort or pain to: a back condition that bothers her constantly.
5. To take the trouble (to do something); concern oneself with (accomplishing something): "Most people [with the syndrome] have such mild symptoms that they never bother to see a doctor" (Jane E. Brody).

You are the genius ... I'm the moron, you should know this ...

[DMC]

Bothered and messed up are two different words with different meanings.

Messed up
a. A cluttered, untidy, usually dirty place or condition: The kitchen was a mess.
b. Something that is disorderly or dirty, as a accumulation or heap: Who left the mess on the kitchen floor?
2.
a. A confused, troubling, or embarrassing condition or situation: With divorce and bankruptcy proceedings pending, his personal life was in a mess.
b. One that is in such a condition: They made a mess of their marriage. Her boyfriend is a real mess.

Bothered
To cause to be irritated, especially by repeated acts; trouble or annoy: "I spoke French badly. So I always replied to him in English. This didn't bother him" (Paul Theroux). See Synonyms at annoy.
2. To make agitated or perplexed; upset: "Jerry could see ... how much the doctor had been bothered by the failure of the first surgery" (Rick Bass).
3. To intrude on without warrant or invitation; disturb: "When I saw him slumped in a chair, deep in thought, I decided not to bother him" (Pat Toomay).
4. To give discomfort or pain to: a back condition that bothers her constantly.
5. To take the trouble (to do something); concern oneself with (accomplishing something): "Most people [with the syndrome] have such mild symptoms that they never bother to see a doctor" (Jane E. Brody).

You are the genius ... I'm the moron, you should know this ...

Now I have you posting definitions of words you equivocated.

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[illmatic]

Fat chance. McVeigh is an American hero.

Whoa. That's scary.

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