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spursistan
02-11-2016, 02:40 PM
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It is probably happening..He is done in H-town..

spursistan
02-11-2016, 02:43 PM
The Houston Rockets (https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/hou/) have started contacting teams about trading eight-time All-Star Dwight Howard (https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3818/), league sources told The Vertical.Howard, 30, plans to exercise an opt-out in his contract this summer to become an unrestricted free agent, and uncertainty surrounding the commitment both sides are willing to make has pushed Houston general manager Daryl Morey toward seeking potential trades on the market, league sources said.
The NBA’s trade deadline is Feb. 18.
The Rockets are working with Howard’s agent, Dan Fegan, on possible destinations, league executives told The Vertical.

NameLess Scrub
02-11-2016, 02:44 PM
Impossible, but would be interesting if he became a Spur.

Maybe Pop/Timmy could slap him back to '09.

RD2191
02-11-2016, 02:48 PM
Would be a great Spur if he weren't a man child.

Cry Havoc
02-11-2016, 02:49 PM
Impossible, but would be interesting if he became a Spur.

Maybe Pop/Timmy could slap him back to '09.

I'd rather have LMA. No desire to see Dwight on the Spurs.

Thread
02-11-2016, 02:53 PM
697862929505525760

It is probably happening..He is done in H-town..

Oh, a new start. A fresh start. All of it laying before him and that base. An entire Spring, Summer and most of Fall to dilly & dally with that 20 year guarantee of promise.

I hope he comes up the street. They'll piss their panties with it:::

"I don't see anything in his past that is so bad. I really, don't. Do you, Vinny?

"Yes, I do, Dan. But, when I think really hard about it I really don't."

"Me neither!"

spursistan
02-11-2016, 02:54 PM
Him seeking a max will limit his market..With his injury record and petulant act, he will would be a disastrous albatross two years into it..I think he still has something left but it is massive risk..

Thread
02-11-2016, 02:55 PM
I'd rather have LMA. No desire to see Dwight on the Spurs.

Because LMA will hold a hand. You couldn't make Dwight hold a hand with a loaded & cocked gun.

Spurs9
02-11-2016, 03:01 PM
Called it in my thread tbh, I should be Rockets GM.

illmatic
02-11-2016, 03:03 PM
Christ, I can't believe it's been 3 years since he signed with the Rockets. Time flies.

AlexJones
02-11-2016, 03:05 PM
Cleveland imo

Koolaid_Man
02-11-2016, 03:06 PM
Looks like this proves Kobe was vindicated

Thread
02-11-2016, 03:09 PM
Christ, I can't believe it's been 3 years since he signed with the Rockets. Time flies.

Can you imagine him coming here, ill? It'd be a hoot. He'd own, lose, and burn the town to the ground by this time next year. He'd have us fighting like cats & dogs. I might go out my mind. I wouldn't know whether to shit, or, go blind. I'd quit my j*b if I had one and devote all my time to posting here.

We'd meet for lunch, I'd try to two piece ya, you'd two piece me, I'd put you back out in the Cornfield.

It'd be quite a time.

Sean Cagney
02-11-2016, 03:11 PM
This guy no matter what team he is on is a bad teammate and a cancer, good luck to who ends up with him.

RD2191
02-11-2016, 03:13 PM
Can you imagine him coming here, ill? It'd be a hoot. He'd own, lose, and burn the town to the ground by this time next year. He'd have us fighting like cats & dogs. I might go out my mind. I wouldn't know whether to shit, or, go blind. I'd quit my j*b if I had one and devote all my time to posting here.

We'd meet for lunch, I'd try to two piece ya, you'd two piece me, I'd put you back out in the Cornfield.

It'd be quite a time.

Bend over, I'll show you a cornfield.

Thread
02-11-2016, 03:13 PM
Looks like this proves Kobe was vindicated

He was vindicated on-the-spot, but, Media couldn't resist dragging it for 3 years. Time of their lives doing so.

Just thank Christ Kobe didn't prostrate himself at the time. They had to beg him to come there, when he was luncheoning with Nessa and the girls at Disneyland. He came dressed like Duncan at the Federal Court House, drew up a steel chair and gave it to Howard man to fool. Howard listened intently, sweating profusely in an A/C blasted room, got up..."I have to use the bathroom." --- snuck out the service elevator and went to a pinball arcade. I saw him. I was in there. "You're not playing those games anymore, Dale! I've had it!" - Girl

Koolaid_Man
02-11-2016, 03:15 PM
He was vindicated on-the-spot, but, Media couldn't resist dragging it for 3 years. Time of their lives doing so.

Just thank Christ Kobe didn't prostrate himself at the time. They had to beg him to come there, when he was luncheoning with Nessa and the girls at Disneyland. He came dressed like Duncan at the Federal Court House, drew up a steel chair and gave it to Howard man to fool. Howard listened intently, sweating profusely in an A/C blasted room, got up..."I have to use the bathroom." --- snuck out the service elevator and went to a pinball arcade. I saw him. I was in there. "You're not playing those games anymore, Dale! I've had it!" - Girl

:lmao

Koolaid_Man
02-11-2016, 03:16 PM
Cully you a got dam fool :lol

Thread
02-11-2016, 03:16 PM
This guy no matter what team he is on is a bad teammate and a cancer, good luck to who ends up with him.

He'll goose the gate, tickle the anus, and sell a bundle of newspapers.

Thread
02-11-2016, 03:19 PM
Cully you a got dam fool :lol

:lmao

Thebesteva
02-11-2016, 03:19 PM
:lmao @ Howard getting caught up in a moment and thinking the Rockets team was anything special


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT9wJH4wNyg

lefty
02-11-2016, 03:21 PM
:lmao today's NBA centers

Thread
02-11-2016, 03:21 PM
:lmao Rocket fans trolling Laker fans over this guy
:lmao Jeanie Buss begging this faggot to stay

And of course nobody ever asked her why? No fuckin' way that question was permitted, or, permitted to this day. Those questions aren't asked now.

Splits
02-11-2016, 03:24 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hhq7639

Thread
02-11-2016, 03:26 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hhq7639

Only pussies & assholea use that machine.

Splits
02-11-2016, 03:27 PM
Only pussies & assholea use that machine.

+6 wins for ya, according to Hollinger

baseline bum
02-11-2016, 03:28 PM
Houston with the alpha move of trading the piece of shit. Quite the contrast to LA2 going full beta with The Begging.

Thread
02-11-2016, 03:35 PM
Houston with the alpha move of trading the piece of shit. Quite the contrast to LA2 going full beta with The Begging.

It was one of our dankest, darkest & humiliating moments. And daddy, we've had a boat full of 'em.

I've mentioned it before, but, it bears repeating:::I genuinely believed those pictures of the posters around town begging him to stay were fake, Photo shopped.
We've lost our dignity. It's gone. gone-gone --- we're adrift.

TampaDude
02-11-2016, 03:43 PM
It was one of our dankest, darkest & humiliating moments. And daddy, we've had a boat full of 'em.

I've mentioned it before, but, it bears repeating:::I genuinely believed those pictures of the posters around town begging him to stay were fake, Photo shopped.
We've lost our dignity. It's gone. gone-gone --- we're adrift.

Take heart, my friend...brighter days are coming for the Lakeshow...Kobe is finally retiring.

illmatic
02-11-2016, 03:47 PM
Can you imagine him coming here, ill? It'd be a hoot. He'd own, lose, and burn the town to the ground by this time next year. He'd have us fighting like cats & dogs. I might go out my mind. I wouldn't know whether to shit, or, go blind. I'd quit my j*b if I had one and devote all my time to posting here.

We'd meet for lunch, I'd try to two piece ya, you'd two piece me, I'd put you back out in the Cornfield.

It'd be quite a time.

Lmao!! Sarver would be dumb enough to do it too, you know this.

djohn2oo8
02-11-2016, 03:48 PM
d by*cyberx*

He didnt ask for a trade but Fegan told Morey he wants a max, so Dwight said, "If you arent going to give me a max this summer, send me to a team that will be able to this summer while keeping my bird rights"

Not verbatim.. But you get it. He is looking for a max pay day.

baseline bum
02-11-2016, 04:00 PM
Cleveland imo

http://i.imgur.com/xfs4ydX.png

http://i.imgur.com/mJUL4zX.png

RD2191
02-11-2016, 04:02 PM
Lol @ anyone who gives that mental midget the max.

baseline bum
02-11-2016, 04:05 PM
Can you imagine him coming here, ill? It'd be a hoot. He'd own, lose, and burn the town to the ground by this time next year. He'd have us fighting like cats & dogs. I might go out my mind. I wouldn't know whether to shit, or, go blind. I'd quit my j*b if I had one and devote all my time to posting here.

We'd meet for lunch, I'd try to two piece ya, you'd two piece me, I'd put you back out in the Cornfield.

It'd be quite a time.

I'm rooting for you cubby. Howard in Phoenix would be great, not only to see all those republicans turn on their new ######, but it also ensures the Rockets would get no one of value since your Suns have such shit for a roster.

Thread
02-11-2016, 04:09 PM
I'm rooting for you cubby. Howard in Phoenix would be great, not only to see all those republicans turn on their new ######, but it also ensures the Rockets would get no one of value since your Suns have such shit for a roster.

It feels like it could happen too. Nothing I've heard, but, it's just typical Phoenix Suns to want him.

spursistan
02-11-2016, 04:14 PM
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det stock has fallen hard in couple years..freakin' Toronto is saying no to Dwert :lol

Indazone
02-11-2016, 04:16 PM
I hope he goes to the Celtics. Imagine what a good coach like Brad Stevens could do with him.

baseline bum
02-11-2016, 04:17 PM
It feels like it could happen too. Nothing I've heard, but, it's just typical Phoenix Suns to want him.

There you go cubby. It costs the Suns 6 wins and costs the Rockets 8 wins, so we're covered on both fronts. Plus the Rockets get an even bigger diva.

http://i.imgur.com/8UrRavt.png

baseline bum
02-11-2016, 04:18 PM
I hope he goes to the Celtics. Imagine what a good coach like Brad Stevens could do with him.

Get fired because of him?

NameLess Scrub
02-11-2016, 04:20 PM
I'd rather have LMA. No desire to see Dwight on the Spurs.

Hands down. Wouldn't chose between them.

It'd be more of a "bring him for less" thing.

Indazone
02-11-2016, 04:21 PM
Howard is not the problem for the Rockets. He comes to play every night but only gets 8-9 touches a game. You want to know what the problem is? Our shooting guard James Frauden. It will take a disciplinarian coach who can yank Harden off the floor anytime to get anything out of this paper mache tiger.

Indazone
02-11-2016, 04:24 PM
Celtics can start with a package that includes David Lee (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2772/david-lee) (his $15.5 million salary) and draft picks. When considering what Boston might give up from there, remember what Ainge said about being patient. And that might ultimately be the sticking point in any Rockets talks because Boston would seemingly be leery of giving up too much for a player that might ultimately be a short-term rental.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4721920/should-the-celtics-consider-a-dwight-howard-trade

Indazone
02-11-2016, 04:26 PM
Course adding Lee would not help the Rockets at all and make their defense worse. Lee as an offensive player, fine but we would be trading gimpy player for gimpy player. Would rather take Boston's picks and aim for Durant.

RsxPiimp
02-11-2016, 04:30 PM
djohn2oo8 :lol

RsxPiimp
02-11-2016, 04:30 PM
I'd trade hibbert for him tho

RsxPiimp
02-11-2016, 04:31 PM
nm, he wants max.

MultiTroll
02-11-2016, 04:46 PM
Howard is not the problem for the Rockets. He comes to play every night but only gets 8-9 touches a game. You want to know what the problem is? Our shooting guard James Frauden. It will take a disciplinarian coach who can yank Harden off the floor anytime to get anything out of this paper mache tiger.
Lakers record since Dwight Howard left:

27 - 55
21 - 61
11 - 44 The year of the Almond Head :lol

Dverde
02-11-2016, 05:31 PM
I hope Coach Bud doesn't do anything foolish here

Killakobe81
02-11-2016, 05:47 PM
It was one of our dankest, darkest & humiliating moments. And daddy, we've had a boat full of 'em.

I've mentioned it before, but, it bears repeating:::I genuinely believed those pictures of the posters around town begging him to stay were fake, Photo shopped.
We've lost our dignity. It's gone. gone-gone --- we're adrift.

Im with Cully we both were against the begging. I was definitively against paying that clown the max (same with Melo aldridge monroe etc.), I wasnt against the trade only cully was. Thread. But once I saw Dwight up close ... not just the national TV games I knew his game was suspect.He cares more about his physique than his post game. I thought shaq was just jealous but he saw the craven in him (even if he was jealous)

To make matters worse we asked Pau ...a skilled post man to drift on the perimeter so this fool could occupy the block. :bang

It was not only dark, but it shows we did not know hoops or how to recover from the veto. But at least we avoided Bynum's knees and Howard's cowardice ... problem is we have a huge hole in the middle. Not even Ben Simmons will change that and neither would have Oakafor. We REALLY needed KAT.

RsxPiimp
02-11-2016, 05:49 PM
someone brought up kanter, waiters and novak for howard and ariza

Killakobe81
02-11-2016, 05:52 PM
He was vindicated on-the-spot, but, Media couldn't resist dragging it for 3 years. Time of their lives doing so.

Just thank Christ Kobe didn't prostrate himself at the time. They had to beg him to come there, when he was luncheoning with Nessa and the girls at Disneyland. He came dressed like Duncan at the Federal Court House, drew up a steel chair and gave it to Howard man to fool. Howard listened intently, sweating profusely in an A/C blasted room, got up..."I have to use the bathroom." --- snuck out the service elevator and went to a pinball arcade. I saw him. I was in there. "You're not playing those games anymore, Dale! I've had it!" - Girl

Gold, Cully. Pure Gold.

Raven
02-11-2016, 05:53 PM
trade howard and ariza for gobert and keep drafting perimeter defenders for some years.

RsxPiimp
02-11-2016, 06:08 PM
trade howard and ariza for gobert and keep drafting perimeter defenders for some years.

why would Utah do that :lol

Thread
02-11-2016, 06:57 PM
Im with Cully we both were against the begging. I was definitively against paying that clown the max (same with Melo aldridge monroe etc.), I wasnt against the trade only cully was. Thread. But once I saw Dwight up close ... not just the national TV games I knew his game was suspect.He cares more about his physique than his post game. I thought shaq was just jealous but he saw the craven in him (even if he was jealous)

To make matters worse we asked Pau ...a skilled post man to drift on the perimeter so this fool could occupy the block. :bang

It was not only dark, but it shows we did not know hoops or how to recover from the veto. But at least we avoided Bynum's knees and Howard's cowardice ... problem is we have a huge hole in the middle. Not even Ben Simmons will change that and neither would have Oakafor. We REALLY needed KAT.

& even there we were rudderless. Media steered Kupchak around on that draft till we were both sea sick.

We have to hit ocean's bottom. Until that happens we'll continue to fall league after league under the sea.

Spurs9
02-11-2016, 06:59 PM
Hopefully Celtics aren't involved in anything for him, they are actually building a nice team.

LkrFan
02-11-2016, 08:22 PM
djohn2oo8 :lol

Michael Jordan. too :lmao

djohn2oo8
02-11-2016, 11:17 PM
Michael Jordan. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33236) too :lmao
How do you fuck up TWO top 10 picks? Jim turned you niggas into Philly.

Kawhitstorm
02-11-2016, 11:26 PM
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det stock has fallen hard in couple years..freakin' Toronto is saying no to Dwert :lol

Raptors don't have the pieces to match the salary unless they are moving Lowry/DeRozan/Carroll.:lol Horford is the perfect fit for the Raptors.

apalisoc_9
02-11-2016, 11:29 PM
Raptors don't have the pieces to match the salary unless they are moving Lowry/DeRozan/Carroll.:lol Horford is the perfect fit for the Raptors.

Doesnt make sense to trade with a confrence rival though. If they can shift to the west instead of toronto...thats better for atlanta

Kawhitstorm
02-11-2016, 11:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/xfs4ydX.png

http://i.imgur.com/mJUL4zX.png

How in the hell are Howard/Tristan going to play together if the Cavs trade Love for Howard with LeBron being a terrible shooter?:lol

Also why would the Rockets trade Howard for an overpaid player with no offensive game when they already have Capela?:lol

RsxPiimp
02-11-2016, 11:44 PM
Raptors don't have the pieces to match the salary unless they are moving Lowry/DeRozan/Carroll.:lol Horford is the perfect fit for the Raptors.
Biyombo is doing a great job for them, at a fraction of a cost. Dwight is practically pointless for them especially for his price tag.

RsxPiimp
02-11-2016, 11:57 PM
How do you fuck up TWO top 10 picks? Jim turned you niggas into Philly.

:lol...dat flex tho
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/966/031/RocketsBigMan_original.gif

Kawhitstorm
02-12-2016, 01:56 AM
:lol...dat flex tho
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/966/031/RocketsBigMan_original.gif

mArHU1ewSog

TDMVPDPOY
02-12-2016, 02:51 AM
mavs should go after him

Stalin
02-12-2016, 02:55 AM
:lmao today's NBA centers



Co sign

SpursIndonesia
02-12-2016, 02:58 AM
I'm rooting for you cubby. Howard in Phoenix would be great, not only to see all those republicans turn on their new ######, but it also ensures the Rockets would get no one of value since your Suns have such shit for a roster.

Chandler + Kieff for Howard, basically a salary dump move for the Suns while the Rox gets high risk high return type of players.

illmatic
02-12-2016, 03:53 AM
Chandler + Kieff for Howard, basically a salary dump move for the Suns while the Rox gets high risk high return type of players.

Howard wants that 5 years so this isn't gonna happen. The Suns would only trade for him to dump salary, which means Howard loses his Bird rights and he can't extend for 5 more years.

SpursIndonesia
02-12-2016, 04:41 AM
Howard wants that 5 years so this isn't gonna happen. The Suns would only trade for him to dump salary, which means Howard loses his Bird rights and he can't extend for 5 more years.

Good luck to BibleKemp in his quest for 5 years max contract, the last 4 yrs IMHO has really destroyed his perceived value among other teams FO out there. He might still get the max salary level -considering all the teams with cap room but little big fish FAs to acquire over, but not for a lengthy kinda contract. 2 yrs or 3 yrs with team option will be his best achievement, or 4-5 yrs with heavy dose of health, team & personal achievement clauses to cover all the risk involved.

cd021
02-12-2016, 04:51 AM
Impossible, but would be interesting if he became a Spur.

Maybe Pop/Timmy could slap him back to '09.

One of the more underrated seasons of any player in the past 20 years. Averaged something like 23pts, 14rebs, and 2.5 blks with an average to slightly average supporting cast (Anderson, Bass, Nelson,)

Raven
02-12-2016, 05:14 AM
Howard wants that 5 years so this isn't gonna happen. The Suns would only trade for him to dump salary, which means Howard loses his Bird rights and he can't extend for 5 more years.

that's not up to howard

NameLess Scrub
02-12-2016, 05:52 AM
One of the more underrated seasons of any player in the past 20 years. Averaged something like 23pts, 14rebs, and 2.5 blks with an average to slightly average supporting cast (Anderson, Bass, Nelson,)

It seems you're referring to 10-11. That season was the one Lebron didn't win the MVP after moving to Miami and Rose won it after Thibs took charge of the Bulls. I always thought he could have been the MVP that season.

He always looked great in ORL under SVG. The '09 team that beat Lebron's Cavs was the one with Hedo as point Fwd and Lewis as stretch 4. Jameer was having probably his best shooting season ever too and had scored 25+ on the Lakers in RS. Always wondered what if he had played healthy in the finals.

BillMc
02-12-2016, 07:18 AM
He should have stayed in Orlando.

Killakobe81
02-12-2016, 08:28 AM
Dallas makes some sense but not sure what they could offer. They had a huge "3D in big D" push a few years back ...
all are past their prime and no way they win a title ... but Dwill, Dwight and Dirk wouldnt be a bad fit.
Outside of Pop and maybe a system like the Dubs no one could probably get more out of Dwight than RC ...

Chillen
02-12-2016, 08:40 AM
I could see a trade with the Cavs, like Howard, Beverly for Thompson, Varejao, picks. For Houston it's better than nothing. They could probably do better but Howard would probably want to be traded to a contender.

djohn2oo8
02-12-2016, 08:50 AM
:lol...dat flex tho
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/966/031/RocketsBigMan_original.gif

Too bad Julius Randle's career aint flexin.:lol

Or Russell

Or Hibbert who cost you a pick :lol

cd021
02-12-2016, 09:49 AM
It seems you're referring to 10-11. That season was the one Lebron didn't win the MVP after moving to Miami and Rose won it after Thibs took charge of the Bulls. I always thought he could have been the MVP that season.

He always looked great in ORL under SVG. The '09 team that beat Lebron's Cavs was the one with Hedo as point Fwd and Lewis as stretch 4. Jameer was having probably his best shooting season ever too and had scored 25+ on the Lakers in RS. Always wondered what if he had played healthy in the finals.

You're right, got my years mixed up.

djohn2oo8
02-12-2016, 10:39 AM
Dallas makes some sense but not sure what they could offer. They had a huge "3D in big D" push a few years back ...
all are past their prime and no way they win a title ... but Dwill, Dwight and Dirk wouldnt be a bad fit.
Outside of Pop and maybe a system like the Dubs no one could probably get more out of Dwight than RC ...

Getting more out of him isnt the problem. He is just always hurt. And only going to decline more. Who really wants to pay him 30 mill when he is 35?

Raven
02-12-2016, 10:56 AM
why would Utah do that :lol

dunno, star power and it would make them contenders on paper, plus he fits with fagvors and ariza is a nice complement to the rest of their wings. of course I wouldn't do it if i were them, but I wouldn't have drafted trey burke either, so what do i know :lol

Killakobe81
02-12-2016, 11:02 AM
Getting more out of him isnt the problem. He is just always hurt. And only going to decline more. Who really wants to pay him 30 mill when he is 35?

Trust me if Morey gets .50 cents on the dollar for howard he is an amazing GM. And like I said when you bought him it wasnt that he couldnt or wouldnt be effective just that he is not a true max player because he is no longer a franchise type player ...at least not a for a title team. But I saw ESPN posted something about Harden being the real issue and I have head some of that same clamoring from Rox fans as well ...if you kept Dwight and traded Harden (as ESPN proposed) what would you get and would you be any closer to a title especially if you pay Howard max money to stay and gave him the keys?

Say what you will about Dwight/Harden both are stars you cant rid of both and get good value, can you?

RsxPiimp
02-12-2016, 12:13 PM
Too bad Julius Randle's career aint flexin.:lol

Or Russell

Or Hibbert who cost you a pick :lol
u salty as fuck bro, wcf to a possible lottery team in less than a year...:lol

also russell>>harden in 2 yrs, best believe that:hat

RsxPiimp
02-12-2016, 12:13 PM
dunno, star power and it would make them contenders on paper, plus he fits with fagvors and ariza is a nice complement to the rest of their wings. of course I wouldn't do it if i were them, but I wouldn't have drafted trey burke either, so what do i know :lol

:lol....

RsxPiimp
02-12-2016, 12:21 PM
Or Hibbert who cost you a pick :lol

you gave us larry nance tho:lol

snickles
02-12-2016, 12:54 PM
but Dwill, Dwight and Dirk wouldnt be a bad fit.

how great would it be to see cuban get the old and busted version of the team he broke up his championship squad to try to get?

Thread
02-12-2016, 12:56 PM
how great would it be to see cuban get the old and busted version of the team he broke up his championship squad to try to get?

Not as great as when they were selling your shit.

baseline bum
02-12-2016, 01:07 PM
Not as great as when they were selling your shit.

Which wasn't as great as 48.5 leading to 12

Killakobe81
02-12-2016, 01:27 PM
how great would it be to see cuban get the old and busted version of the team he broke up his championship squad to try to get?

Exactly. He probably could have kept that team and still ended up here but at least he would have tried to defend his only 'chip.

jeebus
02-12-2016, 01:39 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h2lmzs9

spursistan
02-12-2016, 02:42 PM
Kevin Pelton of ESPN Insider (article free on ABCNEWS) addressed the elephant in room: Harden is the problem and is the one who needs to be traded..Worth a read, but i don't think Houston will even entertain the thought..

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/rockets-trade-harden-trades-work/story?id=36881518..

Thread
02-12-2016, 02:53 PM
Kevin Pelton of ESPN Insider (article free on ABCNEWS) addressed the elephant in room: Harden is the problem and is the one who needs to be traded..Worth a read, but i don't think Houston will even entertain the thought..

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/rockets-trade-harden-trades-work/story?id=36881518..

I'm flabbergasted that A. Pelton didn't clear this with ESPN, or, B. ESPN cleared it thru NYC.

Sean Cagney
02-12-2016, 03:26 PM
He'll goose the gate, tickle the anus, and sell a bundle of newspapers.
:lol

cd021
02-12-2016, 03:35 PM
I could see the Wizards trying to get him as a misguided attempt at trying to attract KD.

Nene
Gary Neal

For
Dwight Howard
Marcus Thorton

snickles
02-12-2016, 03:42 PM
Not as great as when they were selling your shit.

sadly i give less than a shit about your schict.

Thread
02-12-2016, 04:04 PM
sadly i give less than a shit about your schict.

It ain't a schict. It's a fact. You won. They were selling your shit.

djohn2oo8
02-12-2016, 06:51 PM
I could see the Wizards trying to get him as a misguided attempt at trying to attract KD.

Nene
Gary Neal

For
Dwight Howard
Marcus Thorton
Lol KD hates Howard.

Killakobe81
02-12-2016, 07:18 PM
Lol KD hates Howard.

This. KD is built like Kobe he doesn't tolerate fools.

LkrFan
02-12-2016, 08:26 PM
This. KD is built like Kobe he doesn't tolerate fools.

KD needs to go west:

Russell
Derozan
Ben Simmons
KD
Whiteside

LkrFan
02-12-2016, 08:28 PM
It ain't a schict. It's a fact. You won. They were selling your shit.

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/94/2013/06/SPURS-GEAR.png

:rollin :lmao :rollin

Thread
02-12-2016, 10:05 PM
^^^^^^^^^

It ain't a schict. It's a fact. You won. They were selling your shit.

ambchang
02-13-2016, 07:22 AM
^^^^^^^^^

Then you should have shown up when they were selling it. You didn't.

Thread
02-13-2016, 10:54 AM
^^^^^^^^^

It ain't a schict. It's a fact. You won. They were selling your shit.

TrainOfThought5
02-13-2016, 11:17 AM
Houston with the alpha move of trading the piece of shit. Quite the contrast to LA2 going full beta with The Begging.

Theres a lot of unexplored truth here.

ambchang
02-13-2016, 11:18 PM
Then you should have shown up when they were selling it. You didn't.

HemisfairArena
02-13-2016, 11:20 PM
Best place for Howard is Dallas,,,,

Killakobe81
02-13-2016, 11:24 PM
Best place for Howard is Dallas,,,,

I already said that pages ago

HemisfairArena
02-13-2016, 11:51 PM
I already said that pages ago

Good for you,,,,you want a cookie?,,

djohn2oo8
02-14-2016, 12:22 PM
Best place for Howard is Dallas,,,,
Needs to go to a contender. But he probably doesn't care about fit at this point. Whoever is going to pay him the max is where he will want to go. And its looking like no one will.

Thread
02-14-2016, 12:39 PM
Needs to go to a contender. But he probably doesn't care about fit at this point. Whoever is going to pay him the max is where he will want to go. And its looking like no one will.

Yep, dj is right. He is deathly afraid of the money running out...sooner or later. He can control the money flow. He cannot control anything else and is wise enough to realize it now when the money can still be incredible. I'll give him credit here.

djohn2oo8
02-15-2016, 09:15 AM
Not much info coming out so I take it no one is willing to trade for him. Seems like a ploy to show Howard and his agent that no one is willing to pay him the max. If they have been trying to trade him for a month then he wont get traded.

LkrFan
02-15-2016, 10:56 AM
I hope Morey maxes him out. :tu

djohn2oo8
02-15-2016, 12:12 PM
I hope Morey maxes him out. :tu
They already told him no max. Which is why he wanted a trade. Btw, yall are about to max Whiteside and Derozan this summer.

LkrFan
02-15-2016, 12:37 PM
They already told him no max. Which is why he wanted a trade. Btw, yall are about to max Whiteside and Derozan this summer.

I like them both, but not for the max.

djohn2oo8
02-16-2016, 04:00 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-16-2016, 04:13 PM
699701366529269760

Doubt anyone falls for it. Maybe Jordan :lol

djohn2oo8
02-16-2016, 04:16 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-16-2016, 04:35 PM
Big news. Tiago Splitter out for the year. So if Atlanta trades Horford, they will need a C

Killakobe81
02-16-2016, 04:46 PM
Big news. Tiago Splitter out for the year. So if Atlanta trades Horford, they will need a C

what a good trade by the spurs. They trade hill for Kiwi and hill hasnt ever reached his potential and trade high on Splitter so they have space to get Lamarcus ...not sure who sold their soul but almost every Spur move comes up aces. That has to change eventually. sure they are smart, but they also have been lucky too. Dangerous combination.

djohn2oo8
02-16-2016, 04:51 PM
what a good trade by the spurs. They trade hill for Kiwi and hill hasnt ever reached his potential and trade high on Splitter so they have space to get Lamarcus ...not sure who sold their soul but almost every Spur move comes up aces. That has to change eventually. sure they are smart, but they also have been lucky too. Dangerous combination.

It wont matter if they get creamed by GS.

baseline bum
02-16-2016, 04:54 PM
Big news. Tiago Splitter out for the year. So if Atlanta trades Horford, they will need a C

RC getting out of that contract just in time :tu

baseline bum
02-16-2016, 05:03 PM
what a good trade by the spurs. They trade hill for Kiwi and hill hasnt ever reached his potential and trade high on Splitter so they have space to get Lamarcus ...not sure who sold their soul but almost every Spur move comes up aces. That has to change eventually. sure they are smart, but they also have been lucky too. Dangerous combination.

They have had a couple of major fuck ups along the way too though. Paying Richard Jefferson $40 million after a horrible first season in San Antonio was a pretty bad move. As was salary dumping Luis Scola to Houston in the summer of 2007.

Still, LOL at this bleacher report article claiming the Hill for Leonard trade was the second biggest mistake in franchise history :lol

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/751849-nba-draft-results-2011-was-dealing-george-hill-san-antonios-worst-error-ever/page/10

Killakobe81
02-16-2016, 05:17 PM
They have had a couple of major fuck ups along the way too though. Paying Richard Jefferson $40 million after a horrible first season in San Antonio was a pretty bad move. As was salary dumping Luis Scola to Houston in the summer of 2007.

Still, LOL at this bleacher report article claiming the Hill for Leonard trade was the second biggest mistake in franchise history :lol

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/751849-nba-draft-results-2011-was-dealing-george-hill-san-antonios-worst-error-ever/page/10

That is why I said ALMOST ... :lol
But one of the things I like about SA is overall even when it doesnt make sense like cutting SJax right before the playoffs (IIRC) Spurs find a way to make things work. getting and resurrecting Diaw, mills. cutting bait on Neal, RMJ, belli when folks here felt it was a mistake. Spurs have deserved the props as the Pats of the NBA really honestly and truly a few mistakes for either (Pats had re-signed Aaron Hernandez) is just speed bumps.

LkrFan
02-16-2016, 05:38 PM
699701366529269760

Doubt anyone falls for it. Maybe Jordan :lol

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h29jg6g - take it or leave it son.

ambchang
02-16-2016, 10:20 PM
what a good trade by the spurs. They trade hill for Kiwi and hill hasnt ever reached his potential and trade high on Splitter so they have space to get Lamarcus ...not sure who sold their soul but almost every Spur move comes up aces. That has to change eventually. sure they are smart, but they also have been lucky too. Dangerous combination.


In most cases it's actually player development.

I doubt ginobili, Parker, green, kawhi, mills, splitter, or diaw turned out the way they did in any other teams.

In fact, some of them tried and didn't amount to anything.

gambit1990
02-16-2016, 10:39 PM
I doubt ginobili, Parker, green, kawhi, mills, splitter, or diaw turned out the way they did in any other teams.
then you aren't giving some players enough credit. ginobili would've been ginobili on any team. and patty mills averaged the most points per game in the 2012 olympics. so he was already a scorer.

even diaw had shown to be capable, when motivated, a la his phoenix suns day.

ambchang
02-17-2016, 08:02 AM
then you aren't giving some players enough credit. ginobili would've been ginobili on any team. and patty mills averaged the most points per game in the 2012 olympics. so he was already a scorer.

even diaw had shown to be capable, when motivated, a la his phoenix suns day.

Olympics?

Killakobe81
02-17-2016, 08:09 AM
In most cases it's actually player development.

I doubt ginobili, Parker, green, kawhi, mills, splitter, or diaw turned out the way they did in any other teams.

In fact, some of them tried and didn't amount to anything.

Of course it's some player development but selling High on Hill and getting Kiwi requires smarts and luck first then development. You can see how much Parker and Kiwi have improved in SA no doubt they do a great job. I have been arguing Lakers should double their shooting coach salary to move to L.A. but they dont listen to me ...

ambchang
02-17-2016, 12:03 PM
Of course it's some player development but selling High on Hill and getting Kiwi requires smarts and luck first then development. You can see how much Parker and Kiwi have improved in SA no doubt they do a great job. I have been arguing Lakers should double their shooting coach salary to move to L.A. but they dont listen to me ...

You do scouting and organization properly.

And it's not just a shooting coach. What do you want a player to do? Can anyone tell any of the lakers players what their roles are?

Killakobe81
02-17-2016, 12:23 PM
You do scouting and organization properly.

And it's not just a shooting coach. What do you want a player to do? Can anyone tell any of the lakers players what their roles are?

I get it's not just that but back even when we were winning I never understood why the Lakers didnt buy the best assistants. That is how many of the top companies stay on top, they hire away the best minds in their industry and recruit the best and brightest out of college. Since there is no salary cap on coaches/and their staff. Lakers should go after the PHX or Dallas trainers, the spurs shooting coach etc. But No, since the lockout they fired some of their scouts and have hired moronic coaches and iffy assistants. they added some metric guys but Byron ignores them so who cares?

My point wasn't that the Spurs get the things right the Lakers do not ... because that is obvious. My point was there has been some luck involved but when you are not lucky you better be prepared the Spurs are both. Lakers are neither right now. We cant buy whatever players we want but no excuse not to have a top notch staff with that Time warner money. Some of Kobe's should have been spent on that. In fact, Lakers should ALREADY have their next trainer on staff as they transition from Gary Vitti ... but these bastards are acting like they are not printing money ...shit like that gets me even more pissed than Kobe's extension because it's no excuse for us to not have the best staff money can buy ..and that would help with development.

DMC may laugh but I wont buy LP or even the sports package that includes the TW Laker shows until I see some improvement. IF i didnt give a shit about missing some of Kobe's last games ...what do they expect when there is no Kobe? I am sure I am not the only one that feels this way . Love my Lakers but I will not buy any merch, tix or pay fees to watch this product until they show they are on the right path. Even Simmons wont change my stance. Ill just watch the young guys develop (slowly) on TNT/ESPN/NBATV and local DFW in any given year that is almost 20-30 games that wont cost me shit. Ill just read recaps and box scores like a casual for the non-national games.

Killakobe81
02-17-2016, 12:28 PM
and if they dont care what a loyal 30 plus year Laker fan thinks then eff them tbh ...

Splits
02-17-2016, 02:15 PM
Dwert running to the christian broadcasting network just as fast as he can

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Dwight Howard Gets Real About Being a Christian in the NBA (http://www.christiantoday.com/article/houston.rockets.dwight.howard.bares.his.christian. mission.use.nba.as.platform.for.god/79657.htm)


It is not easy being both a Christian and a successful NBA star. If the Houston Rockets' Dwight Howard did not share a solid foundation with Jesus Christ, he suspects that his life might have turned out differently.

"There [were] times where it was very overwhelming. Where it's like, man, this is so much. Everything is at my disposal, you know, all I got to do is just go reach and it's mine," he shared with CBN (http://www1.cbn.com/dwight-howard-gets-real-about-being-christian-nba).

But every time he feels tempted to stray from his values, Howard is reminded of his mission. "My mission was to preach God's Word, you know, in the NBA. Use the NBA as a platform for God. And when I'm on the floor, you know, let people see, you know, the God in me," he said.

Some people assume that Christians hardly make mistakes, and Howard had to learn the hard way how to deal with people's high expectations of him.

"I am a man of faith. I believe in God. And I will always believe in Him. And, you know, the minute I messed up, the minute I sinned, everybody took a shot at me. 'Hey, you're supposed to be a Christian,' but God died on — Jesus died on a cross for our sins, you know. So if He's willing to forgive us, why can't we forgive each other?" he said.

Back in 2012, Howard faced the lowest point of his career. He was then playing for the Orlando Magic and was dealing with friction with his coach and teammates.

"When I was in Orlando and a lot of this stuff went down in Orlando, everybody made me look like the worst guy in the world. A coach killer, a guy who hates his teammates, a cancer, all this stuff that I'm not," he revealed.

Then in August, he was traded to the Los Angeles Lakers. "I come back, I go to the Lakers," he narrated. "I'm trying to play. But I'm still not 100 percent, and I was getting demolished for that. 'Ahhh, he's not playing hard enough. He can't dunk anymore. He can't do this.' And I'm like, 'God, why do I have to go through this?' But He said just keep going. Just stay strong."
God eventually pointed Howard to the Rockets, but his move really upset Lakers fans. Overwhelmed by all the negativity, Howard prayed for God to "just do something."

"And He said, 'Listen, if the whole world hates you, I love you. Always remember that.' So I just tried to put away all the hate and everything like that and just focus on my relationship with Him," Howard said.

The Christian NBA star is now determined to continue his mission for God in the basketball court and do his best despite all the negativity. "When I'm on the floor, you know, let people see, you know, the God in me. Whether that be me having fun, blocking a shot and smiling dunking and smiling, whatever it may be. But just having fun playing with peace and joy," he said.

Chinook
02-17-2016, 03:41 PM
That is why I said ALMOST ... :lol
But one of the things I like about SA is overall even when it doesnt make sense like cutting SJax right before the playoffs (IIRC) Spurs find a way to make things work. getting and resurrecting Diaw, mills. cutting bait on Neal, RMJ, belli when folks here felt it was a mistake. Spurs have deserved the props as the Pats of the NBA really honestly and truly a few mistakes for either (Pats had re-signed Aaron Hernandez) is just speed bumps.

Pretty sure RJ cost the Spurs Draymond or at least Festus.

spursistan
02-17-2016, 05:19 PM
Report: Dwight Howard and James Harden tried to get the other traded from Rockets in 2014

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Trying to build a championship team around these dudes..Morey :rollin...


It was only days afterDamian Lillard (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1957/damian-lillard)‘s 3-point dagger eliminated them in the first round of their first playoff series together when both were sending out messages and maneuvering to get the other one traded.
Harden is a difficult teammate to play with, dominating the

Thread
02-17-2016, 05:22 PM
Pretty sure RJ cost the Spurs Draymond or at least Festus.

Thank Christ.

ambchang
02-17-2016, 09:08 PM
I get it's not just that but back even when we were winning I never understood why the Lakers didnt buy the best assistants. That is how many of the top companies stay on top, they hire away the best minds in their industry and recruit the best and brightest out of college. Since there is no salary cap on coaches/and their staff. Lakers should go after the PHX or Dallas trainers, the spurs shooting coach etc. But No, since the lockout they fired some of their scouts and have hired moronic coaches and iffy assistants. they added some metric guys but Byron ignores them so who cares?

My point wasn't that the Spurs get the things right the Lakers do not ... because that is obvious. My point was there has been some luck involved but when you are not lucky you better be prepared the Spurs are both. Lakers are neither right now. We cant buy whatever players we want but no excuse not to have a top notch staff with that Time warner money. Some of Kobe's should have been spent on that. In fact, Lakers should ALREADY have their next trainer on staff as they transition from Gary Vitti ... but these bastards are acting like they are not printing money ...shit like that gets me even more pissed than Kobe's extension because it's no excuse for us to not have the best staff money can buy ..and that would help with development.

DMC may laugh but I wont buy LP or even the sports package that includes the TW Laker shows until I see some improvement. IF i didnt give a shit about missing some of Kobe's last games ...what do they expect when there is no Kobe? I am sure I am not the only one that feels this way . Love my Lakers but I will not buy any merch, tix or pay fees to watch this product until they show they are on the right path. Even Simmons wont change my stance. Ill just watch the young guys develop (slowly) on TNT/ESPN/NBATV and local DFW in any given year that is almost 20-30 games that wont cost me shit. Ill just read recaps and box scores like a casual for the non-national games.

You make your own luck in this business and the Spurs were prepared. They make mistakes but they minimize those by making the right choice most of the time through preparation. Then they put the right resources to make the most of what they got.

The two franchises also have different drivers. In order for the Spurs to be profitable they have to be successful. They can't draw huge names in free agency because they are a small market to they develop what they have.

The lakers mean while will sell out tickets no matter what. All they want is to maximize merchandise sales and a player like Kobe allowed them to do that. They thought they can attract free agents whenever they want because they are the lakers. But the new age is different. Players want a plan to succeed. The lakers aren't providing that plant form.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2016, 08:41 AM
700310442149834752

If you know he is leaving , take whatever you can get.

140
02-18-2016, 08:44 AM
700310442149834752

Kobe knows that feel, tbh :lol

cd021
02-18-2016, 09:45 AM
Pretty sure RJ cost the Spurs Draymond or at least Festus.

It saved the team $ 11 million (RJs contract had additional year on his contract) but it did cost us a shot at both, Ezeli was the 30th pick and Dray was the 35th.

Thread
02-18-2016, 10:09 AM
700310442149834752

If you know he is leaving , take whatever you can get.

You got to take back 85% of Howard's salary. You can't just stick him out on the curb for waste management to haul him away in the middle of the nite.