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spursistan
02-12-2016, 05:24 PM
Watched this dude few times..He's more like young Tony Allen until further notice :lol..Rook Kiwi just got way more moves and an incomparably more polished shooting.

Put the brakes on that comparison, Heatfan, please....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_nPd7PFfoQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tO-9Xvymw0

Mnky
02-12-2016, 05:35 PM
Kawhi had the greatest coach, and shooting coach with a group of veterans that all sacrificed to be together. Winslow has a good group to learn from, but chip and pop are a huge difference maker. And Kawhi was not a great offensive player his rookie year. He was good for a rookie. He did better than expected as he was expected to not contribute much at all.This highlight just shows how much his teammates created for him, as well as his defense to up those offensive statistics. Winslow has said he looks at where Kawhi was, and he wants to emulate his rise to elite player. I think the kid has a good future.

spursistan
02-15-2016, 06:11 PM
Rookie season comparison..Virtually the same usage, Kawhi blows him out of water in every meaningful metrics..

bit.ly/1SPRrFv (https://t.co/pHeCix8nBd)

Spurtacular
02-15-2016, 09:38 PM
Winslow looking like a bust thus far: 5.7 ppg in 27.8mpg on 41.8 FG; Kawhi shot 49.3 FG his rookie year.

Winsolow's at 7.4 pp36. Jimmer was 14.7 pp36 his rookie year.

Chinook
02-16-2016, 07:27 AM
Looking at that first vid reminds me that the Jazz haven't been to the playoffs since the Spurs swept them in 2012. Lol Jazz.

Raven
02-16-2016, 01:23 PM
you're overthinking it, every rookie that has some defensive potential, is being compared to kawhi, just like ever chucker is being compared to kirby, that doesn't mean they resemble kawhi's game or kirby's sociopathic behaviour

Thread
02-16-2016, 01:38 PM
you're overthinking it, every rookie that has some defensive potential, is being compared to kawhi, just like ever chucker is being compared to kirby, that doesn't mean they resemble kawhi's game or kirby's sociopathic behaviour

They were selling your shit.

spursistan
04-28-2016, 11:04 AM
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Damn, his numbers in the Hornets series are even more hideous than reg season..he gotta put some serious work in the summer, but I still wonder if this dude shooting is salvageable....:lol..

StrengthAndHonor
04-28-2016, 11:06 AM
Winslow is going to be an amazing 3 and D guy. He has a Jimmy Butler type of ceiling.

daslicer
04-28-2016, 11:09 AM
This guy is definitely no where near rookie Kawhi. Even rookie Kawhi could hit open shots. The Hornets are treating him like Rondo by leaving him wide open on purpose. There was one possession I remember in game 3 where he was wide open for a 3 and he bricked it but the Heat got the offensive rebound and he got another wide open 3 but still bricked it again.

TDMVPDPOY
04-28-2016, 11:11 AM
Winslow is going to be an amazing 3 and D guy. He has a Jimmy Butler type of ceiling.

WTF no man...

DPG21920
04-28-2016, 11:13 AM
I still like him and people have to stop grading players on the "Kawhi Curve". Kawhi is not the norm. His development was one of the most shocking things I have ever seen for a young player.

Guys like Winslow, Justin Anderson, Butler, etc.. Will take longer (if they ever get there). Kawhi has an insane work ethic and talent level, but it doesn't mean that other young guys are bad and not developing because they didn't become FMVP/DPOY in the first few years.

TheGreatYacht
04-28-2016, 11:26 AM
Winslow was never behind Richard Jefferson in the rotation.

Justice >>>>>>>>>> Tony Snell Jr

jimbo
04-28-2016, 01:13 PM
He'd be lucky to be young tony allen. dude was a beast before his injuries

Raven
04-28-2016, 01:47 PM
Winslow is going to be an amazing 3 and D guy. He has a Jimmy Butler type of ceiling.

how about he first becomes a 2 and D guy? :lol

Raven
04-28-2016, 01:52 PM
I still like him and people have to stop grading players on the "Kawhi Curve". Kawhi is not the norm. His development was one of the most shocking things I have ever seen for a young player.

Guys like Winslow, Justin Anderson, Butler, etc.. Will take longer (if they ever get there). Kawhi has an insane work ethic and talent level, but it doesn't mean that other young guys are bad and not developing because they didn't become FMVP/DPOY in the first few years.

in fairness, anyone that thought comparing kawhi and winslow in the draft process was a good idea, should be laughed at. i mean just by wingspan alone, you know that there can be no comparison.

140
04-28-2016, 02:01 PM
Winslow was never behind Richard Jefferson in the rotation.

Justice >>>>>>>>>> Tony Snell Jr
:lol

spursistan
04-28-2016, 02:23 PM
how about he first becomes a 2 and D guy? :lol
yep..He is still pretty young though..i want' to give him this off-season to see whether he put work into his game; otherwise, we are maybe looking at Iman Shumpert/ Tony Allen 2.0 best case (his defensive chops are legit, tbh).:lol

dabom
04-28-2016, 02:28 PM
I already posted that this guy is too skinny to be compared to kawhi. Maybe small arms and no big hands.

dabom
04-28-2016, 02:30 PM
Kawhi was also one of the best slashers in the league his rookie season. I've always said this comparison was bogus from the start.

spursistan
11-05-2016, 07:01 PM
Bump..

still can't shoot for shit..

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Kawhitstorm
11-05-2016, 07:03 PM
Bump..

still can't shoot for shit..

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Seems like he makes everything against the Spurs.:rolleyes

spursistan
12-29-2016, 10:34 PM
He might be the worst shooter in the league with that much usage :lol... (0-9 tonight )

Somehow regressed in his sophomore year..I think Winslow/Smart/MKG will end-up more like Tony Allen type players.

https://s29.postimg.org/lpsslblh3/winslow.jpg

apalisoc_9
12-29-2016, 11:04 PM
Kawhi was a good shooter since game 1 of his NBA career. :lol

It's evident he only needed minor tweeks on his form ( england confirmed this)..these niggas have been struggling to shoot the last two years. :lol

spursistan
12-29-2016, 11:21 PM
Kawhi was a good shooter since game 1 of his NBA career. :lol

It's evident he only needed minor tweeks on his form ( england confirmed this)..these niggas have been struggling to shoot the last two years. :lol
Winslow form in particular is ugly as sin..Dude is shooting 21.6% on pull-up jumpers and 22.1% on catch and shoot..just an abomination..:lol

poeticism707
12-30-2016, 05:50 AM
They were selling your shit.

:rollin :rollin :rollin

Raven
12-30-2016, 07:12 AM
he has a ton of work to do. Will he be able to improve? Who knows, currently he is like a poor mans tony allen. Which isn't that bad in theory, except they also have whiteside which means a lot of pressure on the shooters

Mr. Body
12-31-2016, 12:52 AM
Too bad he didn't have a good college coach.

spursistan
01-04-2017, 09:55 PM
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Damn basically a lost season basically (only 18 games played)..Not like his shooting mechanics needed further fuckup..

Kawhitstorm
01-04-2017, 09:59 PM
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Damn basically a lost season basically (only 18 games played)..Not like his shooting mechanics needed further fuckup..

The surgery might actually fix his shooting mechanics. :lol

spursistan
01-04-2017, 10:03 PM
The surgery might actually fix his shooting mechanics. :lol
Heat should sell high on him if they can get a star in a package deal..Riley is an impatient dude and I don't think he can stomach another tank season beyond this one..

Kawhitstorm
01-04-2017, 10:08 PM
Heat should sell high on him if they can get a star in a package deal..Riley is an impatient dude and I don't think he can stomach another tank season beyond this one..

Trade him to the Celtics: http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4721184/the-one-that-got-away-celtics-get-up-close-look-at-justise-winslow