Spurs Record Misleading

[MoSpur]

I hate to write this and I hope I am dead wrong, but I think the Spurs' record is misleading. Yeah they've only lost 9 games, but 4 of those losses have been to the top teams in the league. They lost to OKC, Cavs, Warriors, and Clippers. I know it may sound absurd to say this, but I don't think they're as good as their record indicates.

Its crazy to say that a 47-9 record is misleading, but its my honest opinion. The Spurs are one of five or six very good teams in the league. There is huge gap though between the very good teams such as the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, Thunder, Clippers and the rest of the league. The Spurs are very good and better than the rest of those 24 or 25 teams in the NBA, but are probably on the same level as the Thunder and Cavs and just a step ahead of the Clippers.

If it came down to a seven game series between the Spurs against the Warriors or Thunder or Cavs, I don't think the Spurs would have an easy time against those teams. I don't think they would be able to win against the Thunder or Warriors because of the matchup problems those teams present.

That's why I say their record is misleading. They can improve. They don't have that same flow like they did in those 2012/2013 and 2013/2014 seasons. I'm just saying. Again, I really hope I'm wrong.

[dabom]

You're wrong. Go back to 2014 faggot.

[MoSpur]

Thanks for that mature response.

[SpursforSix]

You're wrong. Go back to 2014 faggot.

Lol. No mercy for pussies.

[Leetonidas]

They also beat the Clippers and Cavs. Played OKC in the first fucking game of the year and barely anyone has beaten GS. gtfo

[Kawhitstorm]

Thunder:lmao

[dabom]

Thanks for that mature response.

Sorry. Thought this was a troll thread...

[cjw]

You could argue the Warriors are the ones lucky to have the record they do based on record in close games. Spurs record is actually pretty fair, if not a loss or two higher than their point differential would indicate.

[DeRozan m8]

You're wrong. Go back to 2014 faggot.


This....100%

[hater]

Their record just like worriers record just shows the shit state of the league. Barely mediocre teams are breaking winning records.

Shit league that's all

[spurtech09]

-1,000

[DAF86]

The Spurs in 2014 lost almost every regular season game against elite teams and they went on to win it all. Your reasoning is off son. The Spurs not only have an amazing record, they are also the team with the best pt differential. They are really, really good.

[spurtech09]

The Spurs in 2014 lost almost every regular season game against elite teams and they went on to win it all. Your reasoning is off son. The Spurs not only have an amazing record, they are also the team with the best pt differential. They are really, really good.
+1,000

[Mikeanaro]

You're wrong. Go back to 2014 faggot.

[Godbama]

Lol. No mercy for pussies.

[Budkin]

2014. Nuff said.

[sexinthatsx]

I hate to write this and I hope I am dead wrong, but I think the Spurs' record is misleading. Yeah they've only lost 9 games, but 4 of those losses have been to the top teams in the league. They lost to OKC, Cavs, Warriors, and Clippers. I know it may sound absurd to say this, but I don't think they're as good as their record indicates.

Its crazy to say that a 47-9 record is misleading, but its my honest opinion. The Spurs are one of five or six very good teams in the league. There is huge gap though between the very good teams such as the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, Thunder, Clippers and the rest of the league. The Spurs are very good and better than the rest of those 24 or 25 teams in the NBA, but are probably on the same level as the Thunder and Cavs and just a step ahead of the Clippers.

If it came down to a seven game series between the Spurs against the Warriors or Thunder or Cavs, I don't think the Spurs would have an easy time against those teams. I don't think they would be able to win against the Thunder or Warriors because of the matchup problems those teams present.

That's why I say their record is misleading. They can improve. They don't have that same flow like they did in those 2012/2013 and 2013/2014 seasons. I'm just saying. Again, I really hope I'm wrong.

What I noticed from watching the Spurs games this season is that they are hiding tricks up their sleeve throughout the season and saving it for the playoffs. I can't explain it but I can just tell from their body language in the games.

[Hoops Czar]

I hate to write this and I hope I am dead wrong, but I think the Spurs' record is misleading. Yeah they've only lost 9 games, but 4 of those losses have been to the top teams in the league. They lost to OKC, Cavs, Warriors, and Clippers. I know it may sound absurd to say this, but I don't think they're as good as their record indicates.

Its crazy to say that a 47-9 record is misleading, but its my honest opinion. The Spurs are one of five or six very good teams in the league. There is huge gap though between the very good teams such as the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, Thunder, Clippers and the rest of the league. The Spurs are very good and better than the rest of those 24 or 25 teams in the NBA, but are probably on the same level as the Thunder and Cavs and just a step ahead of the Clippers.

If it came down to a seven game series between the Spurs against the Warriors or Thunder or Cavs, I don't think the Spurs would have an easy time against those teams. I don't think they would be able to win against the Thunder or Warriors because of the matchup problems those teams present.

That's why I say their record is misleading. They can improve. They don't have that same flow like they did in those 2012/2013 and 2013/2014 seasons. I'm just saying. Again, I really hope I'm wrong.

You posted this on a night where they just beat the juggernaut Kings on the road. You should have waited until they lost before posting this thread. The responses would have been much different.

[Hoops Czar]

2014. Nuff said.

As of 2/25/2016, the 2014 Spurs would smash this team in a seven game series. :lol

[DAF86]

You posted this on a night where they just beat the juggernaut Kings on the road. You should have waited until they lost before posting this thread. The responses would have been much different.

He actually posted it while the Spurs were struggling against Gay and Rondo, tbh. And the replys came at the same time.

[dabom]

As of 2/25/2016, the 2014 Spurs would smash this team in a seven game series. :lol

Do you understand what you just said? Playoffs and Regular season games are totally different you stupid fuck. If I was basing the 2014 and 2016 RS teams the 2016 would win hands down faggot. :lmao

[DAF86]

If only the Spurs biggest rival to ring would be a Lebron led team. I could already be celebrating the 6th, tbh. :depressed

[DeRozan m8]

Their record just like worriers record just shows the shit state of the league. Barely mediocre teams are breaking winning records.

Shit league that's all

Was thinking this today...its the only reason the Warriors have such a record....there's just simply not that many good to great teams in the league...

There's no way they'd pull this shit off when the Bulls did

[DAF86]

Was thinking this today...its the only reason the Warriors have such a record....there's just simply not that many good to great teams in the league...

There's no way they'd pull this shit off when the Bulls did

Which were the super teams of the 90's, tbh? Reggie Miller's pacers, Gary Payton's Sonics, John Starks' knicks? :lmao

[Amuseddaysleeper]

This is 2011 all over again, the league is extremely weak right now and the Spurs mostly beat up on poor teams. This team isn't even a lock to get out of the 2nd round despite being on pace 65-70 wins.

I would take 2012-2014 Spurs over this year's team any day of the week.

[apalisoc_9]

Which were the super teams of the 90's, tbh? Reggie Miller's pacers, Gary Payton's Sonics, John Starks' knicks? :lmao

The 90s had expansions teams too.

:lol

90's ball

[KenziE]

What I noticed from watching the Spurs games this season is that they are hiding tricks up their sleeve throughout the season and saving it for the playoffs. I can't explain it but I can just tell from their body language in the games.


THIS TBH !!!! Its a setup , under the radar attack comeplayoffs we will see the real spurs

[TheGreatYacht]

1/3rd of the league is tanking :lol

:lol 2010's ball
:lol Mo Williams dropping fiddy
:lol Corey Brewer and Terrence Ross too
:lol midget ball
:lol but "faster bigger stronger"


http://youtu.be/9nFb9432d0I

http://youtu.be/vC1srGqOrK4

http://youtu.be/TLUxO_dcTQE

[Splits]

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[Kidd K]

So you're saying it would've been better if they lost more to shitty teams as opposed to good ones?

Bad logic is bad imo.

[DeRozan m8]

They're not allowed to lose a single game tbh

[daledondale]

You're wrong. Go back to 2014 faggot.
Dabom from distance, boom, it's a three.

[MoSpur]

This is 2011 all over again, the league is extremely weak right now and the Spurs mostly beat up on poor teams. This team isn't even a lock to get out of the 2nd round despite being on pace 65-70 wins.

I would take 2012-2014 Spurs over this year's team any day of the week.

Bingo. Again, I hope I'm wrong.

[Thomas82]

What I noticed from watching the Spurs games this season is that they are hiding tricks up their sleeve throughout the season and saving it for the playoffs. I can't explain it but I can just tell from their body language in the games.

I feel the same way.

[cutewizard]

SPURSSSSSSSSSSSSSS PEAK AFTER MARCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[szkorhetz]

Best start in franchise history. Shut the fuck up.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Here we go again. When the Spurs won the title back in 2014, they started with a record of 4-9 against the West top 4 teams (well top 5 as the Spur had a top 4 record themselves). Spurs went on to finish like 13-9 against these teams as they turned in up at the end of Feb and Pop quit experimenting.

Pop does this every year. He experiments against these teams early, especially on the road. I get it. Its better to find out what matchups work and don't work in the regular season rather in the playoffs. And this pattern results in a lot of losses early by the Spurs against the top teams in the NBA especially in the WC.

[spurspokesman]

Spurs are right where they need to be. I believe that our boys will win the games that count this year

[Spurtacular]

Record isn't misleading; the league is weak; and the Spurs are pretty good. But the Warriors are a big concern.

[TrainOfThought5]

SPAM.

OP might actually be a pussified coward.

Saying we're not better than OKC because we lost to them in the first game of the year? LOL

Bold name bads.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You're wrong. Go back to 2014 faggot.

[Solid D]

The Spurs have a 12.5 Point Differential.

Greatest NBA Point Diffs and results*

Team__________________Record_Point Diff.__ Finished Season
2014-15 Golden St. Warriors 67-15 +10.10 NBA Champions
2007-08 Boston Celtics 66-16 +10.26 NBA Champions
1996-97 Chicago Bulls 69-13 +10.80 NBA Champions
1995-96 Chicago Bulls 72-10 +12.24 NBA Champions
1991-92 Chicago Bulls 67-15 +10.44 NBA Champions
1971-72 LA Lakers 69-13 +12.28 NBA Champions
1971-72 Milwaukee Bucks 63-19 +11.16 Lost to LA in Western Finals
1970-71 Milwaukee Bucks 66-16 +12.26 NBA Champions

* Note: The only Non-NBA Champion (Bucks) lost to the highest point diff. (Lakers) that season, who are also on this list.

[r0drig0lac]

Record isn't misleading; the league is weak; and the Spurs are pretty good. But the Warriors are a big concern.

[AsimoV]

Numbers are incapable of misleading. They are integers and lack sentience, a skill required in order to lie or exaggerate. Rather, it is the individual interpreting the numbers who may use them to mislead.

For example, your suggestion that a 47-9 record is not a 47-9 record, is misleading.

[MVPCues]

Spurs might lose in the first right, they might win the chip this year. Who knows. Losing in game 6 against the Warriors in the WCF is probably the bookie's over/under.

Regarding misleading record...the bottom line is if you are dismissing the Spurs chances or record because they have lost to a few of the better teams during the regular season, you are not paying attention from one year to the next. In 2014 it seemed like it took forever for them to be a top team in the regular season and everyone kept harping on that. How did that year end?

[MultiTroll]

That's why I say their record is misleading. They can improve. They don't have that same flow like they did in those 2012/2013 and 2013/2014 seasons. I'm just saying. Again, I really hope I'm wrong.
Agree.
Too many MeBall trips down the floor. As far as shooters missing shots, it happens. Not talking about that. But taking completely ill advised shots. Used to be mainly Porker. Then he massively improved for the 1st half of the season. Now he's going back to MeBall on too many trips up the floor. His 50% shooting is mainly against scrub teams. Now even Kawhi has gotten into the MeBall act. You are correct it certainly is not like the back to back No Stick Total Team Ball seasons. Not yet.

[FkLA]

They probably wouldn't be favored against any of those teams on the road. They'll have HCA against all of them except GS though. Winning in a hostile environment in the playoffs is tough but the Spurs are capable of stealing one, they've done it before.

It won't be easy but they have a realistic shot tbh.

[Dex]

This just in...the best teams in the league are harder to beat.

[Seventyniner]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016.html?lid=standings_summary

Check PW and PL (projected wins and losses) near the bottom of the page. These are based on point differential.

The Spurs' record, by that measure, is exactly what it should be. It's the Warriors that have a record 6 games better than it should be. They win a lot of close games.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2007.html

This is 2006-2007 for comparison. The Mavs finished 9 games ahead of the Spurs in the standings, but 3 games behind in projected record based on point differential.

The Spurs also went 0-4 vs the Mavs that year, though each game was close.

Bottom line: I think the Spurs are at least as good as Golden State. That one blowout doesn't change my mind.

[703 Spurz]

This is 2011 all over again, the league is extremely weak right now and the Spurs mostly beat up on poor teams. This team isn't even a lock to get out of the 2nd round despite being on pace 65-70 wins.

I would take 2012-2014 Spurs over this year's team any day of the week.

In 2014 they lost a lot of games to elite teams then win the title anyway. So what the fuck is the point here?

[Dro210]

What I noticed from watching the Spurs games this season is that they are hiding tricks up their sleeve throughout the season and saving it for the playoffs. I can't explain it but I can just tell from their body language in the games.

I think so too.... Everything is irrelevant right now tho. It all depends on health, we all know that. If we're 100%, I still think we're the best team once the games start to count. Warriors still haven't beaten an elite team in a playoff series, either.

[MoSpur]

Its not just the losses that I was pointing to. Its how they have played overall against some of the better teams. They don't look as strong as years in the past. Its just an observation. As I have said I hope that I am dead wrong and that they meet Golden State in the WCF and win.

[weeks]

I feel the same way.

i've gotten the same impression.

probably bullshit but i think they have plays and shit they're saving

[Thomas82]

i've gotten the same impression.

probably bullshit but i think they have plays and shit they're saving

Even Tony Parker came out and said something like that a couple weeks ago.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

In 2014 they lost a lot of games to elite teams then win the title anyway. So what the fuck is the point here?

2014 didn't have anyone close to the level of this year's Warriors. That's the problem.

[sasaint]

Here we go again. When the Spurs won the title back in 2014, they started with a record of 4-9 against the West top 4 teams (well top 5 as the Spur had a top 4 record themselves). Spurs went on to finish like 13-9 against these teams as they turned in up at the end of Feb and Pop quit experimenting.

Pop does this every year. He experiments against these teams early, especially on the road. I get it. Its better to find out what matchups work and don't work in the regular season rather in the playoffs. And this pattern results in a lot of losses early by the Spurs against the top teams in the NBA especially in the WC.

Pop has more new rotation players, including the big guy, LMA. Plus he is playing TWO young guys more than I ever remember. He seems to know that this team has so much talent that he can spend even more time than usual with his experiments. Consequently, we are seeing more close games until we put the pedal to the metal. Plus, as other posters have noted, we definitely seem to be holding back a lot of stuff in the Xs & Os department.

[cariocaz]

The fact that the Spurs have lost to the best teams is troubling. Yet as has been mentioned, as in 2014, the playoffs are different from the regular season.

What I don't understand on this forum is why guys can't just discuss the topic, without attacking the person who makes a statement.

Why the need to put others down? What do you get out of it?

I guess it's too much to hope for, to think that this kind of childish behavior will change. :bang

[MoSpur]

The fact that the Spurs have lost to the best teams is troubling. Yet as has been mentioned, as in 2014, the playoffs are different from the regular season.

What I don't understand on this forum is why guys can't just discuss the topic, without attacking the person who makes a statement.

Why the need to put others down? What do you get out of it?

Exactly. However, its been like this for awhile seems like. When I first joined the forum 10 years ago, it wasn't this bad. You had your internet tough guys here and there, but not like the way it is today. Doesn't bother me though.

I guess it's too much to hope for, to think that this kind of childish behavior will change. :bang

[boutons_deux]

Spurs do have a horrible record vs the handful of better teams, but starting next month, the Spurs have plenty of chances to show if their great record indicates a great team, or NBA Champion of the crappy teams.

[Kikoluna]

The fact that the Spurs have lost to the best teams is troubling. Yet as has been mentioned, as in 2014, the playoffs are different from the regular season.

What I don't understand on this forum is why guys can't just discuss the topic, without attacking the person who makes a statement.

Why the need to put others down? What do you get out of it?

I guess it's too much to hope for, to think that this kind of childish behavior will change. :bang

I'm with you on that one.

[r0drig0lac]

2014 didn't have anyone close to the level of this year's Warriors. That's the problem.

bingo

[benefactor]

Spurs will be fine tbh.

[SouthernFried]

It looks to me, that POP has changed this team because of the early season losses to better teams. Sitting Duncan and Kawhi I think was more of a strategic move and in response to those losses. Enabling him to see what these newer players strengths and weakness's were on their own...and how best to use them. I think the newer players also learned some things about themselves during that stretch. I wouldn't be surprised if Duncan was in on this too.

I saw a different Spurs team out there against UTAH last night. It's not the "beautiful" game we saw in 2014...but, maybe it's what we need. I dunno....been an interesting season so far. lol

[MoSpur]

They did look better after that slow start in the 1st quarter. A definite step in the right direction.

[noles1983]

lose 2 to OKC in one series.

BITCH MADE

[MoSpur]

Bump

[ElNono]

Nothing misleading about the record. The NBA level this season, generally speaking, was shit. Half the teams tanking.

Add that you stop doing what brought you here, and you finish games with midget cuck West against two 7 footers, and you'll get different results.

[TD 21]

Nothing misleading about the record. The NBA level this season, generally speaking, was shit. Half the teams tanking.

Add that you stop doing what brought you here, and you finish games with midget cuck West against two 7 footers, and you'll get different results.

Totally misleading. They fattened up on the easiest schedule in the league, mostly in the first half, before the bottom fell out on the veterans.

But as I said months ago, something felt off all along. People got caught up in the names and not their current games and the fact that this team was playing a style totally out of touch with the rest of the league. Slow pace (beyond they often look unsure of what they want to do), post ups, mid rangers; this is the exact opposite of the way the game is played today.

Historic defense or not, when you already don't get to the line, you can't be 25th and 26th in 3-point attempts/makes.

[ElNono]

Totally misleading. They fattened up on the easiest schedule in the league, mostly in the first half, before the bottom fell out on the veterans.

But as I said months ago, something felt off all along. People got caught up in the names and not their current games and the fact that this team was playing a style totally out of touch with the rest of the league. Slow pace (beyond they often look unsure of what they want to do), post ups, mid rangers; this is the exact opposite of the way the game is played today.

Historic defense or not, when you already don't get to the line, you can't be 25th and 26th in 3-point attempts/makes.

Our rebounding differential in this series is probably going to be close to record-setting. That's really the game and series right there. You can't play midgets or guys that can't rebound like Boris, especially for extended periods of time.

IMO, that's all on Pop. We should beat this OKC team, we're just going all wrong about it. You can't give them that kind of advantages and then turn around and wonder why you lost.

[TD 21]

Our rebounding differential in this series is probably going to be close to record-setting. That's really the game and series right there. You can't play midgets or guys that can't rebound like Boris, especially for extended periods of time.

IMO, that's all on Pop. We should beat this OKC team, we're just going all wrong about it. You can't give them that kind of advantages and then turn around and wonder why you lost.

True. But the reality is, outside of Leonard, Aldridge, Green and the games Parker somewhat turns back the clock, this team is trash right now. Even with Leonard's continued ascent and the addition of Aldridge, they were never going to out star the other four elite teams. They still needed to out depth them, only they no longer can.

[SouthernFried]

I think people here live to bump their own posts. lol

[MoSpur]

I think people here live to bump their own posts. lol

Not really, but people thought what I wrote was a joke or me losing my mind. There are too many homers on this board who don't like to accept the truth. I still think there's a small chance to win this series, but they're going to need a Game 1 performance or something similar to win Game 6.

[MoSpur]

You're wrong. Go back to 2014 faggot.

Just called it how I saw it

[MoSpur]

Thunder:lmao

Wonder if you're still laughing?

[dabom]

Just called it how I saw it

We got screwed over 2 times by the refs and we even had 2 double digit leads in the last 2 games and even had a short lead in the 1st quarter. Any blame should go to the coach and not the players faggot. We had Championship players. Beta Coach.

[MoSpur]

SPAM.

OP might actually be a pussified coward.

Saying we're not better than OKC because we lost to them in the first game of the year? LOL

Bold name bads.

So....

[MoSpur]

You're blaming the refs and calling me names???? :lol

[RD2191]

OP calling it like a boss.

[dabom]

You're blaming the refs and calling me names???? :lol

Look faggot, you were still wrong.

[MoSpur]

This team wasn't going to win the championship. The team was a very good team, but they struggled when it came to more youthful and athletic teams. Just facts. I loved that they competed and all, but the age finally caught up to the Spurs. It sucks. I was hoping I'd be wrong, but since like the All Star break I had been thinking this way. I'm not a homer fan. I call it how I see it.

[dabom]

This team wasn't going to win the championship. The team was a very good team, but they struggled when it came to more youthful and athletic teams. Just facts. I loved that they competed and all, but the age finally caught up to the Spurs. It sucks. I was hoping I'd be wrong, but since like the All Star break I had been thinking this way. I'm not a homer fan. I call it how I see it.

Age had nothing to do with it though faggot. :lmao

Playing players when they shouldn't is. :lmao

Go watch some more basketball faggot.

[MoSpur]

Look faggot, you were still wrong.

:idiot:

[MoSpur]

Age had nothing to do with it though faggot. :lmao

Playing players when they shouldn't is. :lmao

Go watch some more basketball faggot.

I think you need to go watch more basketball. Take off the blinders this time though.

[dabom]

I think you need to go watch more basketball. Take off the blinders this time though.

You don't know shit.

[MoSpur]

You don't know shit.


I disagree. I pretty much called it.

[dabom]

I disagree. I pretty much called it.

Pop dropping the soap doesn't mean the record was misleading. Anyone with a brain saw Pop playing shitty costly lineups the whole series and you know when the media picks up it, it is a long time coming. All on Pop. Not the team.

[Kawhitstorm]

Wonder if you're still laughing?

Yep, I'm laughing at the 2nd rd parade being thrown in Meth City. :lmao