NFL Free Agency Thread

[spurraider21]

About a week away from Free Agency... only a couple of days away from the deadline to give the Franchise Tag. Rumors will start cooking after the Tag deadline.


Who are some prospective FA's you want/expect your teams to pursue? (not including guys like Von Miller, Josh Norman who will likely get the tag)...

Raiders are expected to go after an inside backer like Danny Trevathan/Brandon Marshall/Derrick Johnson... a corner like Janoris Jenkins/Sean Smith... safety like Eric Weddle. Malik Jackson is also a name being thrown around.

[johnsmith]

About a week away from Free Agency... only a couple of days away from the deadline to give the Franchise Tag. Rumors will start cooking after the Tag deadline.


Who are some prospective FA's you want/expect your teams to pursue? (not including guys like Von Miller, Josh Norman who will likely get the tag)...

Raiders are expected to go after an inside backer like Danny Trevathan/Brandon Marshall/Derrick Johnson... a corner like Janoris Jenkins/Sean Smith... safety like Eric Weddle. Malik Jackson is also a name being thrown around.

Man I hope the Raiders aren't able to pilfer our inside linebackers. Trevethan and Marshall are so incredibly under rated.

I'm not positive they would be as good on a team without an exceptional front four like the Broncos had this year, but it would still hurt if we lost them.

[johnsmith]

The speed of Trevethan coupled with Mack would be a scary linebacker group.

The Raiders are without question the biggest threat to knock the Broncos off the pedestal in the West.

[Blizzardwizard]

Tashaun Gipson a name I heard for Chargers.

If he plays like he did in 2014 = :worthy:

If he plays like he did in 2015 = :pctoss

[spurraider21]

yeah, Weddle and Gipson are guys the Raiders should be targeting... our secondary already sucked and now Woodson is gone.

offseason checklist should be: secondary (safety and corner), middle linebacker, d-line depth (tuck retired and mario edwards has some weird neck injury that sounds ominous), and then OL (re-sign penn or draft a LT.... also need a RG)

Mario Williams released, Von Miller/Kirk Cousins/Eric Berry/Josh Norman/Cordy Glenn got tagged

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Panthers cut Charles Johnson and Dwan Edwards.

Rumor has it they will push for Eric Weddle due to the connection with Rivera.

[spurraider21]

"unofficial" free agency starts tomorrow, or the so called "legal tampering" period. players can meet with teams, negotiate, but contracts cant officially be signed for a few days.

[LakerHater]

Eagles trade Demarco to Titans!

[spurraider21]

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[Chinook]

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Don't mind the team having an extra third-rounder in the first year compensatory picks can be traded.

[spurraider21]

Raiders landed osemele. The money implies he's a tackle but I'm reading it's fluid and depends on rest of off-season

[spurraider21]

Malik Jackson to Jacksonville

[spurraider21]

Danny Trevathan to the Bears. Back with John Fox

[spurraider21]

Don't mind the team having an extra third-rounder in the first year compensatory picks can be traded.
how are the ravens so cash-strapped? i thought ozzie's MO was not signing big free agents

[Chinook]

how are the ravens so cash-strapped? i thought ozzie's MO was not signing big free agents

It's not. Dude's been burned quite a few times recently on his extensions. Rice had to punch his fiancee (still paying that one off), Pitta's hip exploded and Webb went from the second-best CB in the league behind Revis in 2011 to a guy trying to move to FS to continue his career. Monroe is a bust and is probably getting cut. Kyle Arrington hasn't fit the scheme. Same with Kendrick Lewis. Jimmy Smith is all right but not back to form yet. That's a TON of money tied up in guys who aren't earning it.

[spurraider21]

It's not. Dude's been burned quite a few times recently on his extensions. Rice had to punch his fiancee (still paying that one off), Pitta's hip exploded and Webb went from the second-best CB in the league behind Revis in 2011 to a guy trying to move to FS to continue his career. Monroe is a bust and is probably getting cut. Kyle Arrington hasn't fit the scheme. Same with Kendrick Lewis. Jimmy Smith is all right but not back to form yet. That's a TON of money tied up in guys who aren't earning it.
ray rice was dead money last year, off the books this year, to my knowledge

[elemento]

KO is a good Guard, but not Yanda good. He is still young but a 60m contract for him is too much money. If they're paying him LT money because of a 4-game stretch, they're nuts.

Anyway, the Raiders have a history of overpaying. If KO remains healthy, they got a good player no doubt about it, but he got overpaid by a lot. KO will probably be replaced by Jensen. I'm more concerned about having Monroe as the starting LT next season.

[Silver&Black]

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Also, heard you guys are "the favorites" for Doug Martin.

[benefactor]

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Do it.

[MultiTroll]

Who wants Weddle?

[spurraider21]

Raiders come out of nowhere to nab Bruce Irvin... he takes the SLB spot vacated by mack when he moved to DE. ken norton jr knows his seahawks guys, malcolm smith worked out well for us last year too

as long as this doesn't pull us out of the running for one of sean smith/janoris jenkins i won't complain

[benefactor]

Houston loses Ben Jones to the Tacks. Kinda sucks but he's replaceable.

[spankadelphia]

Nice pickup for the Raiders.

[Holden_Caulfield]

damn. jags might make the playoffs now. although im not too fond of the ivory pick up. now we just need a LB a safety a center and LT :lol

[spurraider21]

Osweiler to texans
benefactor djohn2oo8

[spurraider21]

:lmao HarlemHeat37
:lmao johnsmith

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[djohn2oo8]

Osweiler to texans
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Nice hope it works out. Now Lamar Miller signs with Texans

[spurraider21]

4 years 72 million for Brock? cmon :lol... started 7 games and got benched for TSOB manning

[TheGreatYacht]

Broncos dodged a bullet :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

4 years 72 million for Brock? cmon :lol... started 7 games and got benched for TSOB manning


Broncos dodged a bullet :lmao

Denver offered him the same money.

[djohn2oo8]

Texans signing OL Jeff Allen :tu

[HarlemHeat37]

Osweiler is a below average QB, tbh..he ranked poorly in virtually every metric that judges QBs:lol

His pocket presence is terrible, too..

Hopefully the Broncos get RG3 or Kaep now..

[benefactor]

4 years 72 million for Brock? cmon :lol... started 7 games and got benched for TSOB manning
Rick Smith's make or break signing. We got Miller too.

Somehow I still don't feel better. I'm just jaded from all the years of suck at the QB position.

They didn't sign RG3...and Hoyer is gone...so that's something.

[TheGreatYacht]

Osweiler is a below average QB, tbh..he ranked poorly in virtually every metric that judges QBs:lol

His pocket presence is terrible, too..

Hopefully the Broncos get RG3 or Kaep now..
You gone get Sanchize, and you gone like it

[benefactor]

Texans signing OL Jeff Allen :tu
Needed that one. Lost Brooks and Jones.

[djohn2oo8]

Rick Smith's make or break signing. We got Miller too.

Somehow I still don't feel better. I'm just jaded from all the years of suck at the QB position.

They didn't sign RG3...and Hoyer is gone...so that's something.
At least with this move, if it doesnt work out, FORCES niggas heads to roll

[manufan10]

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[djohn2oo8]

Now you can spend draft picks on any position to fill holes.

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[spurraider21]

Elway might have to suit up in 2016 :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Osweiler is a below average QB, tbh..he ranked poorly in virtually every metric that judges QBs:lol

His pocket presence is terrible, too..

Hopefully the Broncos get RG3 or Kaep now..
Not like those scrubs are any better, tbh, especially RGKnee :lol

Denver will have to draft a QB, IMO. They'll either have to hope Hackenburg drops to them or make a slight reach for Connor Cook at the end of Round 2. Not a great spot to be in, but hey, at least Broncos fans have a Super Bowl banner to dry their tears with.

[Mal]

:lmao Broncos without QB. Manning`s padawan went for money

[Raven]

:lol broncos already tanking

[spurraider21]

could be one of the most drastic declines from a superbowl winner in NFL history, tbh..

[Mal]

Broncos sold out. Only one tag on best player. All depth gone.

[HarlemHeat37]

Not like those scrubs are any better, tbh, especially RGKnee :lol

Denver will have to draft a QB, IMO. They'll either have to hope Hackenburg drops to them or make a slight reach for Connor Cook at the end of Round 2. Not a great spot to be in, but hey, at least Broncos fans have a Super Bowl banner to dry their tears with.

The Broncos had one of the 5 worst QB situations in the NFL, last year, tbh:lol

They could sign almost anybody and they would be an upgrade over Manning/Osweiler..

[spurraider21]

the giants just made olivier vernon the highest paid 4-3 DE ever :lmao... getting more annually than jj watt

[Holden_Caulfield]

the giants just made olivier vernon the highest paid 4-3 DE ever :lmao... getting more annually than jj watt

Thank God we avoided him: lol

[TXstbobcat]

Denver offered him the same money.

Sounds like he really didn't want to stay in Denver.

[djohn2oo8]

Sounds like he really didn't want to stay in Denver.
He didn't. Apparently being in Manning's shadow pissed him off

[TXstbobcat]

Rick Smith's make or break signing. We got Miller too.

Somehow I still don't feel better. I'm just jaded from all the years of suck at the QB position.

They didn't sign RG3...and Hoyer is gone...so that's something.

anything would have been better than rolling with Hoyer for another season.

[djohn2oo8]

Now we have to for the love of Christ find a TE.

[TXstbobcat]

Now you can spend draft picks on any position to fill holes.

How would you feel about drafting a WR in the 1st round???

[djohn2oo8]

anything would have been better than rolling with Hoyer for another season.

This. They had to try something to show they wont sit back and waste Watt's prime. If it doesnt work out then people are fired. If it works out then you are set at QB for 10 years.

[djohn2oo8]

How would you feel about drafting a WR in the 1st round???
I would be for it. Need some help outside of Deandre.

[benefactor]

I would be for it. Need some help outside of Deandre.
That or another offensive lineman. Brown is coming of an injury and the depth was suspect last year. I'd be for another real safety to put back there beside Jackson too.

[spurraider21]

Tashaun Gipson to Jags... 5/35

rough day for cleveland, losing Alex Mack, Mitchell Schwartz, Travis Benjamin, and Tashaun Gipson

[TXstbobcat]

Tashaun Gipson to Jags... 5/35

rough day for cleveland, losing Alex Mack, Mitchell Schwartz, Travis Benjamin, and Tashaun Gipson

Seems like every day is a rough day for the Cleveland Browns

[AlexJones]

Connor Cook is a winner tbh

[spurraider21]

Coby Fleener to the Saints.... Luck losing one of his weapons DPG21920

[Holden_Caulfield]

Yeeeee gipson. Hopefully he bounces back lol

[benefactor]

After thinking about it for a bit, this was really the only move Houston could make. They desperately need something that looks like a QB and they need it now. Every pick outside of Goff and Wentz is a crapshoot, so getting another QB in the draft means more development time, more QB competitions and perhaps yet another stop gap vet. Osweiler is far from a home run, but he's a chance they had to take. Now they can draft even more depth and basically go BPA with every pick.

[DPG21920]

After thinking about it for a bit, this was really the only move Houston could make. They desperately need something that looks like a QB and they need it now. Every pick outside of Goff and Wentz is a crapshoot, so getting another QB in the draft means more development time, more QB competitions and perhaps yet another stop gap vet. Osweiler is far from a home run, but he's a chance they had to take. Now they can draft even more depth and basically go BPA with every pick.

Plus having a legit RB now (if he's used well which he should have usage like Foster with his ability) is big. Brock isn't great, there was no better vet right now. It's not great, but it's not your money and you can only do what is realistic.

[DPG21920]

Coby Fleener to the Saints.... Luck losing one of his weapons DPG21920

Im really interested to see what the Colts do. They don't have a lot of weapons at all and losing one (even as meh as Fleener) is still bad.

Fleener always did ok when he was the only TE healthy, but fell off once the depth was back. I think he will do well with NO, but nothing special.

[benefactor]

Plus having a legit RB now (if he's used well which he should have usage like Foster with his ability) is big. Brock isn't great, there was no better vet right now. It's not great, but it's not your money and you can only do what is realistic.
That's the clincher. They overpaid, but they didn't put themselves in a bind. Still had plenty of cash left over to take care of other free agent needs.

[spurraider21]

Chiefs have had a lowkey impressive day 1. They kept some of their guys and now there's talk Sean Smith might go back on a big hometown discount instead of big offers from OAK/SF

[Pelicans78]

Coby Fleener to the Saints.... Luck losing one of his weapons DPG21920 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13014)

Retarded spending 7 million on a TE when Brees can make any scrub look really good. And people keep wondering why our defense is historically bad year after year.

[Blizzardwizard]

Chargers did all the right things for once in a day - Signed Travis Benjamin for WR 2/3 spot. Also boosts worst return game since 1981 statistically. Safety depth in Dwight Lowery. Pretty damn good DT in Brandon Mebane, still need more defensive depth however.

[TheGreatYacht]

Afc south doing a lot of moves in free agency

Texans get: Brock Osweiler, Lamar Miller, Jeff Allen
Titans get: DeMarco Murray, Rishard Matthews, Ben Jones, Matt Cassell
Jaguars get: Malik Jackson, Chris Ivory, Tashaun Gipson
Colts get: :lol

[benefactor]

Breakdown of thew Osweiler contract:

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If you are going to overpay for a player, this is how you do it. Every bit of the guaranteed money is front loaded into the first two years. Furthermore, the cap hit in 2016 is only 12 million, which gives Houston the ability to potentially keep making moves in free agency on top of the moves they've already made. The cap number starts to move into top QB money territory the second year, but that's expected.

So if disaster strikes(as it always seems to in Houston) they can part ways with Osweiler after two seasons with no extra cap hit.

[djohn2oo8]

Breakdown of thew Osweiler contract:

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If you are going to overpay for a player, this is how you do it. Every bit of the guaranteed money is front loaded into the first two years. Furthermore, the cap hit in 2016 is only 12 million, which gives Houston the ability to potentially keep making moves in free agency on top of the moves they've already made. The cap number starts to move into top QB money territory the second year, but that's expected.

So if disaster strikes(as it always seems to in Houston) they can part ways with Osweiler after two seasons with no extra cap hit.
Good stuff. I guess its do or die for Rick Smith

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Haha fuck the Broncos. Had no problem with them until you see these bitches on social media STILL trolling Carolina. They're more excited to beat Carolina than to win the SB...


so :lol Harlem


Go tank while we take the league by storm a la 2014 Spurs

[spurraider21]

Raiders got Sean Smith on a WAY better deal than janoris Jenkins got.

#DreamTeam

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

As long as Carolina steals Weddle for OAK

[djohn2oo8]

Aaron Wilson*

✔‎@AaronWilson_NFL

Texans are looking into trade scenarios involving former starter Brian Hoyer, nothing imminent

[Ditty]

:lol Teams overpaying for free agents like the 1999-2014 Redskins

TBH I like Sean Smith, Lamar Miller and Damon Harrison signings though.

Think the Skins will land Reggie Nelson, Vernon Davis, Andre Branch even possibly Chris Long soon and find a way to bring back Junior Galette.

Don't be shocked if the Skins make a strong push to trade for Chancellor though as he is from the area, and McCloughan is the guy who drafted him.

Skins I think will kill it in the draft again.

[spurraider21]

Yeah the Smith signing turned out great when you compare it to janoris jenkins. Bruce Irvin also looks like a steal based the market around him.

Osemele was an overpay, but I'd rather overpay on a sure commodity on the offensive line than just about anything else. Plus we need to spend a ton of money just to hit the salary floor, which is why all the deals we've made are frontloaded.

[spurraider21]

also the browns are at rock bottom, ground zero

i hope hue jackson is up to the task

[Blizzardwizard]

As long as Carolina steals Weddle for OAK

Weddle :lol

Have fun with those whiffs on RB and constant missed tackles. Oh and giving up on a play almost every time an opposing player breaks into the backfield :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Christ Bronco fan :lol

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[djohn2oo8]

LOL if Elway really trades for Kaepernick

[johnsmith]

:lmao HarlemHeat37
:lmao johnsmith

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It's adorable that you're pretending like the qb position is important for Denver. They just dominated everyone with the worst qb in the league. As long as we can replace Malik and Trevethan, the best defense in 15 years of the NFL will be back. And we will be well on our way to yet another AFC West crown. Brock is overrated anyway in my opinion.


And finally....I'm gonna go ahead an give Elway the benefit of the doubt seeing as he's been making the AFC West his bitch for his entire tenure.


Oh....also.....SUPER BOWL CHAMPS
with the worst qb in the league.

[johnsmith]

LOL if Elway really trades for Kaepernick

All he has to do is not throw the most picks in the league and he will be an upgrade from Manning.....when we won the super bowl.....lol

[johnsmith]

Haha fuck the Broncos. Had no problem with them until you see these bitches on social media STILL trolling Carolina. They're more excited to beat Carolina than to win the SB...


so :lol Harlem


Go tank while we take the league by storm a la 2014 Spurs

That's "world champion" Denver Broncos to you sir.

[Mal]

It's adorable that you're pretending like the qb position is important for Denver. They just dominated everyone with the worst qb in the league. As long as we can replace Malik and Trevethan, the best defense in 15 years of the NFL will be back. And we will be well on our way to yet another AFC West crown. Brock is overrated anyway in my opinion.


And finally....I'm gonna go ahead an give Elway the benefit of the doubt seeing as he's been making the AFC West his bitch for his entire tenure.


Oh....also.....SUPER BOWL CHAMPS
with the worst qb in the league.


As long as new QB doesnt do something stupid too often. Manning in post season was errorless.

[djohn2oo8]

All he has to do is not throw the most picks in the league and he will be an upgrade from Manning.....when we won the super bowl.....lol

You had a good running game last year. Defense wont matter if you cant run it this year, which isnt CJ Anderson leaving?

[djohn2oo8]

All he has to do is not throw the most picks in the league and he will be an upgrade from Manning.....when we won the super bowl.....lol

You had a good running game last year. Defense wont matter if you cant run it this year, which isnt CJ Anderson leaving?

[johnsmith]

You had a good running game last year. Defense wont matter if you cant run it this year, which isnt CJ Anderson leaving?

Lol....we had an extremely mediocre running game....and CJ is average at best. Telling you, That game you watched the Super Bowl was pretty much on par with the rest of the season.....thy didn't score much, they didn't convert on 3rd down much and they didn't have many yards.

The defense single handily carried them all the way thru a super bowl win.

[johnsmith]

You had a good running game last year. Defense wont matter if you cant run it this year, which isnt CJ Anderson leaving?

Shit part of the reason the qb's were so awful was because the play fake wasn't working because defenses didn't have to honor the run.

[johnsmith]

As long as new QB doesnt do something stupid too often. Manning in post season was errorless.

He threw a pick and fumbled I'm the super bowl.

[johnsmith]

As long as new QB doesnt do something stupid too often. Manning in post season was errorless.

But you're correct. However, he threw pick after pick after pick after pick prior to that and they still won 12 games....7 with Manning.

[djohn2oo8]

Shit part of the reason the qb's were so awful was because the play fake wasn't working because defenses didn't have to honor the run.

Yet Anderson still had 4.7 yards per attempt. You cannot keep depending solely on the defense for multiple years. Hell how long did Seattle's dominant defense last?

[johnsmith]

Yet Anderson still had 4.7 yards per attempt. You cannot keep depending solely on the defense for multiple years. Hell how long did Seattle's dominant defense last?

Agreed....completely, but Anderson was serviceable at best and platooned with Hillman. They can replace him without much effort. Further, their offensive line (in theory) should improve dramatically with the return of the always fucking injured pro bowler Ryan Clady, the projected starter at right tackle that was injured all last year in Ty Sambraillo, and then they just signed a dude from KC to come in and compete.

So like I said, the offense should improve....fuck, it would almost be impossible to not get better compared to last season. Then if we replace Malik and Trevethan, we should be good. I have a feeling they may move Barrett inside to compete for Trevethans job and in doing so would bring even more speed to the position.

They're going to be fine is my overall point....regardless if Brock or Kaep is the starter.


Also, while I agree that you have to come up with some balance....look how long the Ravens were good because of just the defense.....it can be done.

[johnsmith]

Sorry for the long windedness.....for some reason winning the super bowl has made me overly sensitive and a Whiney bitch.

[johnsmith]

I do think it's interesting to read how many people are criticizing the Broncos for the way they handled Manning coming back from injury. Lots of people saying they did Brock wrong and how f'd up it was and they blew their chance at singing Brock Right then and there.

Well fuck, they won the super bowl....isn't that the whole point?

[johnsmith]

Mark Sanchez....now you guys can freely make fun of the Broncos.

Jesus Christ.

[spurraider21]

:lol Sanchez

[spurraider21]

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[TheGreatYacht]

You gone get Sanchize, and you gone like it
I fucking called it :lmao

[spurraider21]

I fucking called it :lmao
fuckin gotem

[benefactor]

Nice call, TGY:tu

Damn breh...we would have given you Hoyer.

[TheGreatYacht]

Thanks brahs, can't take the credit tho.. My cousin who's cousins with Mark leaked that he was in talks with them

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Sanchez > Hoyer

[johnsmith]

Just read that they picked him up as a backup and they're still moving forward to get a starter.

Thank God

[johnsmith]

:lol Sanchez

Maybe he will help now since he's going to be backing up a quarterback on the AFC West champions (5 times in a row) as well as the Super Bowl winning Denver Broncos.

[TheGreatYacht]

At least the Broncos replaced a QB who outplays SysTom in the playoffs with another one that has :tu :wow

[johnsmith]

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There was no place for a play like that during the Denver Broncos Super Bowl win earlier this year.

[Canyonero]

Defeated both Manning and Brady away on playoffs. Respect.


Oh whatever. Sanchez :lol:lol:lol

[leemajors]

now jerruh can't take him!

[spurraider21]

:lmao response to the mark sanchez trade

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[spurraider21]

to be fair, johnsmith has every right to be in the honeymoon phase, all fans get that way. we are all the same after the spurs rang in '14. but the "we just won therefore we are infallible" stuff wont last

[Raven]

mark freaking sanchez :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Damn.... The Sanchise :lol AFC West is going to be interesting.

[Holden_Caulfield]

We got prince amukamara on a 1 year deal. Not bad

[The Gemini Method]

Jacksonville has definitely attempted to improve the D in the make it or break it Gus Bradley season. Not bad considering they have Fowler coming back for what essentially is his rookie season and the draft still looming.

[Raven]

We got prince amukamara on a 1 year deal. Not bad

how so

[Mal]

Sanchez :lmao

[Will Hunting]

JMO but I think Denver made the right move by not keeping Osweiler given what Houston paid him. If they sign Fitzmagic he has a few good years in him so they can develop a long term QB.

[spurraider21]

how so
he's a good player but injury prone. would suck to commit big guarantees and multiple years. let him prove it

[Mal]

JMO but I think Denver made the right move by not keeping Osweiler given what Houston paid him. If they sign Fitzmagic he has a few good years in him so they can develop a long term QB.

They don`t have material to develop. Their work just bolted to Texans

[johnsmith]

to be fair, johnsmith has every right to be in the honeymoon phase, all fans get that way. we are all the same after the spurs rang in '14. but the "we just won therefore we are infallible" stuff wont last

It will wear off when someone else wins the super bowl.....until then, the championship belt is placed firmly around our waists.

Having said that, everyone being critical of Elways moves (not you) should step back and take a look at what he's done since being GM. Over 50 wins, four division titles, four #1 seeds, 2 AFC titles, and 1 Super Bowl win. He's the pinnacle of the General Manager title and is doing it better than everyone else in the league. While I personally believe Elway is number 3 on the all time best quarterbacks list (Brady, Montana), I think he's proven to be #1 on the best GM's in the league (for the past four years anyway).

Now someone will come in and say it was just because of Manning....well, Elway got him to come to Denver, and Elway put together one of the greatest offenses in the history of the NFL and then when that didn't work, one of the greatest defenses.

It's Elways world and we are all just living it.

SUPER BOWL CHAMPS!!!!

[spurraider21]

he had peyton manning fall into his lap, bro

i know he sucked this year, but he's the reason the broncos became a great team in the first place

[johnsmith]

They don`t have material to develop. Their work just bolted to Texans

Meh, just start with a new guy.

Also, take a look at Sanchez numbers compared to Brock. They are eerily similar.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Sanchez is even close to the answer, but I also don't think the Broncos are done and are planning on settling with him either.

I could be wrong though, and if so, he's still an upgrade over what we had that season that we won the fucking super bowl!

[johnsmith]

he had peyton manning fall into his lap, bro

i know he sucked this year, but he's the reason the broncos became a great team in the first place

So no one else was going after Manning that year? It was just Denver trying to get him?

[spurraider21]

i get it. you're a denver fan who thinks the denver gm is the best in the league, that denver is going to be the best team in the league again next year no matter what happens in the offseason, and that you believe a denver QB is the third best all time (when virtually nobody outside denver would)

[johnsmith]

i get it. you're a denver fan who thinks the denver gm is the best in the league, that denver is going to be the best team in the league again next year no matter what happens in the offseason, and that you believe a denver QB is the third best all time (when virtually nobody outside denver would)

I never said they'd be the best next season. I don't think they're going to repeat frankly. Also, lots of people think Elway is the third best at a minimum. Shit, at the risk of sounding like Avante here, Wilbon believes he's the best ever.

And finally, I get it. You're a salty Raiders fan that as soon as the whistle blew in the Super Bowl you were getting excited for next season because maybe it's going to finally be the year that your team doesn't blow. To be honest, you should feel that way, I think they will be good. However, don't go around pouting that the Broncos have made the AFC West it's bitch the last few years and have been one of, if not the winningest franchise in the last 30 years and in that timeframe has only had two losing seasons.

[HarlemHeat37]

I never said they'd be the best next season. I don't think they're going to repeat frankly. Also, lots of people think Elway is the third best at a minimum. Shit, at the risk of sounding like Avante here, Wilbon believes he's the best ever.

And finally, I get it. You're a salty Raiders fan that as soon as the whistle blew in the Super Bowl you were getting excited for next season because maybe it's going to finally be the year that your team doesn't blow. To be honest, you should feel that way, I think they will be good. However, don't go around pouting that the Broncos have made the AFC West it's bitch the last few years and have been one of, if not the winningest franchise in the last 30 years and in that timeframe has only had two losing seasons.

Spurraider doubted the Broncos all year, tbh:lol..good poster, but clearly biased..it took him until the end of the SB to admit that the Broncos' D is historically great..

Elway has already proven that he's a top 3 GM in the NFL..the Broncos have subtly become the 2nd best franchise in the NFL in the modern era(behind NE), yet don't receive the credit for whatever reason..IMO it's geographical reasons..

[johnsmith]

Spurraider doubted the Broncos all year, tbh:lol..good poster, but clearly biased..it took him until the end of the SB to admit that the Broncos' D is historically great..

Elway has already proven that he's a top 3 GM in the NFL..the Broncos have subtly become the 2nd best franchise in the NFL in the modern era(behind NE), yet don't receive the credit for whatever reason..IMO it's geographical reasons..

I agree....they don't get the press because they're in mountain time and they aren't all that interesting unless their fax machine fucks up. I think getting blown out in three Super Bowls in the 80's was also a large contributor. But whatever....as a Broncos fan since I was 8 and moved to Colorado, I'd rather be super successful without much publicity than the other way around. Spurs fans should understand that.

I can't get mad at spurraider for doubting the Broncos this season though, hell, i did myself. We Broncos fans aren't used to success coming from the defensive side of the ball. We're used to Elway coming from behind, TD running for 2,000 yards, Manning setting records on a daily basis. This was s strange run but the important thing is that it ended with a SUPER BOWL TITLE.

[spurraider21]

Spurraider doubted the Broncos all year, tbh:lol..good poster, but clearly biased..it took him until the end of the SB to admit that the Broncos' D is historically great..

Elway has already proven that he's a top 3 GM in the NFL..the Broncos have subtly become the 2nd best franchise in the NFL in the modern era(behind NE), yet don't receive the credit for whatever reason..IMO it's geographical reasons..
indeed, i was wrong about them, and i owned up to it, congratulated, ate crow, etc... i think majority of my doubt stemmed from the raiders having played them well in both games

but they're easily having a poor offseason which is exacerbated by the fact that the rest of the AFC-W has done pretty well so far. chargers have made strong low-key signings like casey hawyward, travis benjamin, joseph barksdale... chiefs were able to keep most of their defense in tact (minus sean smith) and got them all on really good deals, acquired mitchell schwartz, etc. raiders have been big spenders but their moves have been universally praised, unlike other big spenders like the giants or dolphins of recent years

afc-w should be a lot more fun this year

[elemento]

Ravens just signed Eric Weddle.

Love the signing. Will Hill and Weddle is a good safety duo. Lewis is probably gone.(thank god)

[spurraider21]

weddle is a nice pickup, but wow thats a lot of money for a guy on the wrong side of 30 who has already shown some decline. he's still a plus starter at this point, but i think the deal was a bit much. i would have loved him on a shorter-termed deal

[Chinook]

weddle is a nice pickup, but wow thats a lot of money for a guy on the wrong side of 30 who has already shown some decline. he's still a plus starter at this point, but i think the deal was a bit much. i would have loved him on a shorter-termed deal

I think it's only like $13 Million guaranteed with all of it coming in the first two years. team should be able to get out of the deal after that without having to worry about.

[spurraider21]

I think it's only like $13 Million guaranteed with all of it coming in the first two years. team should be able to get out of the deal after that without having to worry about.
that would make sense. i know charger fans on this forum are salty when it comes to weddle, but he's going to be playing at a high level for another few years

[johnsmith]

that would make sense. i know charger fans on this forum are salty when it comes to weddle, but he's going to be playing at a high level for another few years

You mean "charger fan"?

[spurraider21]

You mean "charger fan"?
theres aztec, blizzard, zipper nation

[TheSanityAnnex]

You mean "charger fan"?
Fuck you :bobo

[bigzak25]

So why hasn't Dallas signed Ryan Fitz? Romos back is game to game, and he's a legit backup/starter. I obviously hate dallas, but who's running that shit show? Lol.

[johnsmith]

Fuck you :bobo

Lol....my bad TSA.

[JMarkJohns]

Chandler Jones to Cardinals.

[Holden_Caulfield]

Jacksonville gets LT Kelvin Beachum. Should be better than joeckel. Jags having a great FA

#makejaguarsgreatagain

[spurraider21]

raiders came to terms with donald penn :tu

he wasn't as good as year as he was in 2014, but he's still an above average left tackle, and this way osemele can stay at guard and we can draft/develop a left tackle. hopefully we take conklin in the first

[JMarkJohns]

Evan Mathis to Cardinals for a year. Improves their run game, but he's lined up next to DJ Humphries, so that is the side to attack Palmer from, likely.

[spurraider21]

best run blocking guard duo in the league right now

[spurraider21]

Ravens just signed Eric Weddle.

Love the signing. Will Hill and Weddle is a good safety duo. Lewis is probably gone.(thank god)
will hill cut :wow

[benefactor]

Browns sign Rahim Moore...who Houston benched for sucking...because Browns.

[TXstbobcat]

Texans sign Antonio Allen. 1 year deal.

[JMarkJohns]

best run blocking guard duo in the league right now

Yeah, but each is only slightly above average at best in pass blocking. If they had a stronger C I don't think I'd be concerned, but without a good C and alongside effectively a first-year starter, I have a few concerns.

But with Johnson and Ellington, hopefully they utilize the running game a bit more dynamically.

[elemento]

will hill cut :wow

Yeah, the stupid moron was suspended 10 games for drug abuse. Too bad because the Weddle/Hill duo looked good on paper.


Just hope that Webb plays well as a full-time safety and I still have high hopes for Terrance Brooks.

[Chinook]

Yeah, the stupid moron was suspended 10 games for drug abuse. Too bad because the Weddle/Hill duo looked good on paper.


Just hope that Webb plays well as a full-time safety and I still have high hopes for Terrance Brooks.

The Ravens have options, that's for sure. Also makes Myles Jack a bigger possibility.

[spurraider21]

The Ravens have options, that's for sure. Also makes Myles Jack a bigger possibility.
i think stanley will be the pick there if he's available

[JMarkJohns]

Sounds like Cardinals are still on on CB Leon Hall and newly waived, 2x former Cardinal, LB Karlos Dansby.

That'd be pretty awesome.

[johnsmith]

Yeah, but each is only slightly above average at best in pass blocking. If they had a stronger C I don't think I'd be concerned, but without a good C and alongside effectively a first-year starter, I have a few concerns.

But with Johnson and Ellington, hopefully they utilize the running game a bit more dynamically.

I like the Cardinals and have a lot of family in Phoenix so I hope for their sake that Mathis plays a lot better than he did this year for Denver because he was garbage. However, he had nagging injuries all season long so you never know.

[spurraider21]

I like the Cardinals and have a lot of family in Phoenix so I hope for their sake that Mathis plays a lot better than he did this year for Denver because he was garbage. However, he had nagging injuries all season long so you never know.
i'm not a fan of PFF's grades (prefer their unique stats, i find the grades to be incredibly subjective), but they had him ranked as the #1 run blocking guard this year. they could be inaccurate, but they cant be THAAT far off

[johnsmith]

i'm not a fan of PFF's grades (prefer their unique stats, i find the grades to be incredibly subjective), but they had him ranked as the #1 run blocking guard this year. they could be inaccurate, but they cant be THAAT far off

He did run block ok....but just look at the Broncos running stats and you can see how well the group didn't do. Maybe it was my imagination though and I was so used to that offensive line failing I associated him with it too.

[spurraider21]

It's been pretty dead lately... but the Raiders just re-signed Aldon Smith, though he's going to be suspended until mid-november. I'd have to assume it's a deal that goes for at least 2 seasons. He was playing better and better last season as the weeks went by, and seemed to have his head on straight throughout the season and the current offseason so far.

Raiders also meeting with Reggie Nelson tomorrow to fill the void left by Charles Woodson. Nelson would be an upgrade, but I'm wary of adding too many starters in one free agent class. We need to continue to draft really well, because Carr and Mack are going to be due for massive paychecks in the 2018 offseason and we've signed a couple of pricey guys this year already.

[spurraider21]

Got Reggie Nelson too

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