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SASdynasty!
03-03-2016, 11:50 PM
Curry is close to him in field goal percentage because of the outstanding year he's having. Kawhi is also on his heels. Do you think either of those guys can overtake Parker and finish the season with the best FG% this season?

TheGreatYacht
03-03-2016, 11:52 PM
There's 2 different questions, but I say yes to the one on the title

dabom
03-03-2016, 11:53 PM
Pity post. I don't even wanna destroy this thread. :lmao

TheGreatYacht
03-03-2016, 11:56 PM
Pity post. I don't even wanna destroy this thread. :lmao
Liar. You just can't resist commenting on a thread that has Kawhi in the OP

ElNono
03-03-2016, 11:56 PM
Shawn Livingston's 52.3% is beatable, I think... he has a good shot.

hater
03-03-2016, 11:57 PM
MVP doing MVP tangs

ElNono
03-03-2016, 11:58 PM
What I don't know is if he can pass Andre Miller's 61%...

SASdynasty!
03-04-2016, 12:01 AM
Shawn Livingston's 52.3% is beatable, I think... he has a good shot.
Should have clarified...best FG% among players who have enough shots to qualify for the stat. With Livingston averaging <15 minutes a game and only averaging 2.6 made shots a game, most lists don't consider him. But good find!

SASdynasty!
03-04-2016, 12:02 AM
What I don't know is if he can pass Andre Miller's 61%...
Oooh, again, same with Livingston, but even worse. Averaging 3 PPG doesn't usually qualify a player, just like centers who go 1/1 from 3-point land for a season. Not a difficult concept, but one we miss sometimes.

ElNono
03-04-2016, 12:02 AM
Should have clarified...best FG% among players who have enough shots to qualify for the stat. With Livingston averaging <15 minutes a game and only averaging 2.6 made shots a game, most lists don't consider him. But good find!

Anybody that played over 20 games should qualify, tbh...

hater
03-04-2016, 12:03 AM
Lol Miller hasn't even attempted a shot and already played 20+ minutes for us

SpurPadre
03-04-2016, 12:04 AM
How does that Flint water taste?

SASdynasty!
03-04-2016, 12:05 AM
How does that Flint water taste?
Ask ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/field-goals/sort/fieldGoalPct/position/point-guards

will_spurs
03-04-2016, 12:07 AM
Anybody that played over 20 games should qualify, tbh...

Not in the world of NBA stats.

SpursFan86
03-04-2016, 12:09 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/field-goals/sort/scoringEfficiency/position/point-guards

ElNono
03-04-2016, 12:11 AM
Not in the world of NBA stats.

It's cherry-picking whichever way...

dabom
03-04-2016, 12:11 AM
ESPN set their own standard. I don't accept that. Miller at the end of the day is hooting 61%. :lmao

SpurPadre
03-04-2016, 12:12 AM
Ask ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/field-goals/sort/fieldGoalPct/position/point-guards

Look at true shooting percentage.

SASdynasty!
03-04-2016, 12:12 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/field-goals/sort/scoringEfficiency/position/point-guards
Dang when you use that particular advanced stat, he's almost out of the top-10!

will_spurs
03-04-2016, 12:13 AM
It's cherry-picking whichever way...

You've been hanging out too much with the krew.

SASdynasty!
03-04-2016, 12:13 AM
Look at true shooting percentage.
I guess I'm old school like that. I don't like getting into free-throws.

SpursFan86
03-04-2016, 12:15 AM
Dang when you use that particular advanced stat, he's almost out of the top-10!

Why would you not use a stat that adjusts for the simple fact that 3 > 2?

dabom
03-04-2016, 12:16 AM
Why would you not use a stat that adjusts for the simple fact that 3 > 2?

or Fouls...

It's called TS%. :lol

SASdynasty!
03-04-2016, 12:16 AM
Why would you not use a stat that adjusts for the simple fact that 3 > 2?
If it were just that, that would be one thing. But we all know the stat heavily favors players that shoot lots of free throws...TS% anyway. Your particular one may not. Like I've said, there are a million of these different advanced metrics. You can pretty much tell any story you want. I stick to things like FG%. Call me old-fashioned.

ElNono
03-04-2016, 12:17 AM
You've been hanging out too much with the krew.

which one? One day I'm a Parker hater, the next I'm a Kawhi hater... plus, if this isn't the epitome of playerfan thread, I don't know what it is...

dabom
03-04-2016, 12:18 AM
.568TS% :lol

That probably is like 5-10 on the team tbh. :lmao

SpursFan86
03-04-2016, 12:20 AM
If it were just that, that would be one thing. But we all know the stat heavily favors players that shoot lots of free throws.

Players who get to the FT line are typically more efficient than those who don't. But regardless, look at eFG% (which doesn't take into account FTs at all, strictly 2-pointers and 3-pointers):

http://bkref.com/tiny/fwtrk

SASdynasty!
03-04-2016, 12:23 AM
.568TS% :lol

That probably is like 5-10 on the team tbh. :lmao
Yep, #8 on the team:

1. Bonner
2. Boban
3. Leonard
4. Simmons
5. West
6. Diaw
7. Butler
8. Parker
9. Ginobili
10. Mills
11. Aldridge
12. Anderson
13. Duncan

It's such a great stat.

dabom
03-04-2016, 12:24 AM
Yep, #8 on the team:

1. Bonner
2. Boban
3. Leonard
4. Simmons
5. West
6. Diaw
7. Butler
8. Parker
9. Ginobili
10. Mills
11. Aldridge
12. Anderson
13. Duncan


It's such a great stat.

How did I know that? :lol

SpursFan86
03-04-2016, 12:24 AM
"Call me old-fashioned" isn't an excuse for ignorance... :lol

FG% is in no way better than eFG%. A player who shoots 100 3's at a 40% clip will score more points than a player who shoots 100 2's at a 55% clip. There's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't include the added value of a 3-pointer when judging a player's shooting efficiency.

SpurPadre
03-04-2016, 12:24 AM
Players who get to the FT line are typically more efficient than those who don't. But regardless, look at eFG% (which doesn't take into account FTs at all, strictly 2-pointers and 3-pointers):

http://bkref.com/tiny/fwtrk

Your use of logic is not going to work here. But I'm not a TP hater so let them revere him, tbh.

will_spurs
03-04-2016, 12:25 AM
which one? One day I'm a Parker hater, the next I'm a Kawhi hater...

1/3 hating 1/3 comedy 1/3 real bball takes.

ElNono
03-04-2016, 12:25 AM
1/3 hating 1/3 comedy 1/3 real bball takes.

I like to mix it up :toast

SASdynasty!
03-04-2016, 12:25 AM
Players who get to the FT line are typically more efficient than those who don't. But regardless, look at eFG% (which doesn't take into account FTs at all, strictly 2-pointers and 3-pointers):

http://bkref.com/tiny/fwtrk
Yes, that is another advanced metric. So far we've had about 4 different ones that give us 4 different lists.

dabom
03-04-2016, 12:26 AM
"Call me old-fashioned" isn't an excuse for ignorance... :lol

FG% is in no way better than eFG%. A player who shoots 100 3's at a 40% clip will score more points than a player who shoots 100 2's at a 55% clip. There's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't include the added value of a 3-pointer when judging a player's shooting efficiency.

Fouls too. The ability to drive and get in position where the opponent needs to foul is an art too.

ElNono
03-04-2016, 12:26 AM
If he shoots 20% and we win #6 I love him too, tbh...

dabom
03-04-2016, 12:27 AM
TS% is the ability to score. Better than eFG and raw FG%.

cjw
03-04-2016, 12:50 AM
Lol Miller hasn't even attempted a shot and already played 20+ minutes for us

I went back and looked and totally forgot TMac never scored for Spurs. Longest stint for any guy not to score?

SASdynasty!
03-04-2016, 12:57 AM
TS% is the ability to score. Better than eFG and raw FG%.
Fair enough, Parker is a better scorer than Ginobili, Aldridge, Duncan, and Mills this year if you go by that. But obviously the stat can't adjust for players that play low minutes...that's just one of it's weaknesses.

dabom
03-04-2016, 01:01 AM
Fair enough, Parker is a better scorer than Ginobili, Aldridge, Duncan, and Mills this year if you go by that. But obviously the stat can't adjust for players that play low minutes...that's just one of it's weaknesses.

We add context. Usage and TS% usually have an inverse correlation.

Kawhitstorm
03-04-2016, 02:20 AM
It has as much merit as Tony leading the team in 3P% last season.

rasuo214
03-04-2016, 04:55 AM
Nice job by Tony but Steph probably passes him and if Kawhi continues the trend of playing better after the ASB he'll pass him as well. Still, top 3 and behind the top 2 MVP candidates isn't a bad thing.