Lord of the Rings Two Towers - movie review

[SpursforSix]

Nothing else on but even with commercials, it's pretty good.
6.5/10

[Xevious]

The weakest of the trilogy, expected though being the middle film. Unfortunately I've lost all interest in them since the craptastic Hobbit movies were released.

[SpursforSix]

The weakest of the trilogy, expected though being the middle film. Unfortunately I've lost all interest in them since the craptastic Hobbit movies were released.

Fuck yes. I couldn't make it through 30 minutes of The Hobbit. Didn't finish it or try DOS.

[Pauly D]

Nothing else on but even with commercials, it's pretty good.
6.5/10

nice try. Perfect movie from a perfect trilogy


The weakest of the trilogy, expected though being the middle film. Unfortunately I've lost all interest in them since the craptastic Hobbit movies were released.

Makes them even better tbh

[SpursforSix]

nice try. Perfect movie from a perfect trilogy



Makes them even better tbh

It's a trilogy like Rocky is a trilogy. It's not. There's 5 of them.

[Darius McCrary]

The 3rd Hobbit movie was pretty tight. Basically one 3 hour long battle scene. Great for the action and visuals.

[lefty20]

The weakest of the trilogy, expected though being the middle film. Unfortunately I've lost all interest in them since the craptastic Hobbit movies were released.

LotR trilogy has no such thing.

[Reck]

The Hobbit ones are mega trash.

The main ones are the shit. I saw all 3 a few months ago. The extended editions.

[Avante]

I've read all 12 Conan books (that REH had, the others were rip offs). Read all 11 books in the John Carter on Mars saga. Most of the Elric books, but damn if I can read Tolkiens Lord of the Ring epic and I've tried numerous times. If there is such a thing as a movie-s being better than the book-s this must be it.

[Chris]

I've read all 12 Conan books (that REH had, the others were rip offs). Read all 11 books in the John Carter on Mars saga. Most of the Elric books, but damn if I can read Tolkiens Lord of the Ring epic and I've tried numerous times. If there is such a thing as a movie-s being better than the book-s this must be it.

Definitely not. Tolkien is an amazing storyteller, plus the fact he created an entire Elven language and Map of the Middle Earth is extremely impressive. He went from writing a short story for his son, to creating an entire Universe. He was way ahead of his time, like most visionaries and geniuses are.

[Avante]

Definitely not. Tolkien is an amazing storyteller, plus the fact he created an entire Elven language and Map of the Middle Earth is extremely impressive. He went from writing a short story for his son, to creating an entire Universe. He was way ahead of his time, like most visionaries and geniuses are.

You talked me into it, I'll ty it again. It's just me.

[Pauly D]

It's a trilogy like Rocky is a trilogy. It's not. There's 5 of them.

there's 3 LotR movies. It's a trilogy. If you want to include The Hobbit movies for whatever reason then that would be 6. Your math skills suck more than your movie taste


The 3rd Hobbit movie was pretty tight. Basically one 3 hour long battle scene. Great for the action and visuals.

The 1st is the only decent one and only cause of the first act. The visuals in the 3rd were over-the-top CGI garbage and some of the shit didn't even make sense, like when the elves jump over the formation to take in the charge. Thrilling at first until you ask "why the fuck would they do that?" The first was at least more down to earth and personal. I mean we now know that Jackson had to wing basically the entire trilogy cause of studio pressure on the timing. It shows painfully.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

there's 3 LotR movies. It's a trilogy. If you want to include The Hobbit movies for whatever reason then that would be 6. Your math skills suck more than your movie taste



The 1st is the only decent one and only cause of the first act. The visuals in the 3rd were over-the-top CGI garbage and some of the shit didn't even make sense, like when the elves jump over the formation to take in the charge. Thrilling at first until you ask "why the fuck would they do that?" The first was at least more down to earth and personal. I mean we now know that Jackson had to wing basically the entire trilogy cause of studio pressure on the timing. It shows painfully.
& inserting characters specifically for the purpose of legacy and touchy-feely romance. Everyone who read the book knows that Legolas had nothing to do any of the plots in the Hobbit... but ladies love Orlando Bloom so they know he sells. Still, nothing was a bigger spit on Tolkien's grave than the Kili/Tauriel thing.

[Pauly D]

& inserting characters specifically for the purpose of legacy and touchy-feely romance. Everyone who read the book knows that Legolas had nothing to do any of the plots in the Hobbit... but ladies love Orlando Bloom so they know he sells. Still, nothing was a bigger spit on Tolkien's grave than the Kili/Tauriel thing.

Ooof, yes. Tauriel in general was bad enough, but have a weird romance with conveniently the only good looking Dwarf in all of Middle Earth and it became a "is this really happening?" kinda thing

[Chinook]

Two Towers is my favorite of the trilogy. Helm's deep was fun, though not as good as Minas Tirith. The Ents were awesome. Gandalf the White making his first appearance. The siege of Isengard. And the Rohan theme kicks so much ass.

[Xevious]

I mean we now know that Jackson had to wing basically the entire trilogy cause of studio pressure on the timing. It shows painfully.
And considering that, he should have kept it simple and just film the book instead of puliing nine hours of garbage out of his ass. The Hobbit should be a two hour movie.

[SpursforSix]

there's 3 LotR movies. It's a trilogy. If you want to include The Hobbit movies for whatever reason then that would be 6. Your math skills suck more than your movie taste


My math is fine. I didn't know that there were 3 for the Hobbit. So the first three Rockys can be the "Rocky vs. Negro" trilogy.

[Pauly D]

And the Rohan theme kicks so much ass.

SO much yes. And when it kicks in when they charge on Pelennor Field it's the most chill bump inducing part of the trilogy, well after the initial horn you hear when they arrive after Gandalf gets defeated

[hater]

Two Towers is my favorite of the trilogy. Helm's deep was fun, though not as good as Minas Tirith. The Ents were awesome. Gandalf the White making his first appearance. The siege of Isengard. And the Rohan theme kicks so much ass.

This tbh. Two towers is best middle earth movie by far. The 1st LOTR is pretty damn good too. The 3rd LOTR and the 3 Hobbits trail way behind. Too slow and fucking boring.

[SpursforSix]

Hopefully they'll remake them soon.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Two Towers is my favorite of the trilogy. Helm's deep was fun, though not as good as Minas Tirith. The Ents were awesome. Gandalf the White making his first appearance. The siege of Isengard. And the Rohan theme kicks so much ass.
:tu

[Pauly D]

The 3rd LOTR and the 3 Hobbits trail way behind. Too slow and fucking boring.

Come again? How could you come even close to comparing those? Return of the King is 4 hours of incredible battles, TRULY beautiful visuals, and emotional climaxes. The only complaint I can understand is the ending and that's cause of awkward editing. All of those conclusions needed to be done but it was done so to where everyone now says "it has like 20 endings hurhurhur!" The first 3 and a half hours are flawless though

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Ooof, yes. Tauriel in general was bad enough, but have a weird romance with conveniently the only good looking Dwarf in all of Middle Earth and it became a "is this really happening?" kinda thing
Not to mention, Tauriel being only 900 years old to be "closer" to Kili's age (still roughly the square of his age though, LOL) kind of ruined the "Arwen being the last elf" plot consistent with the books and the LOTR movies... though Arwen was roughly 2,000 years old and married Aragorn, age 89 at the time of their marriage at Minas Tirith well after the ring had been destroyed (Aragorn himself descended from a line of elves and men who interbred -- the Dunedain -- and lived to be 500-1200 years old themselves)... there was no precedent of an elf and a dwarf marrying or procreating, never ever, as even mere friendship between the two races was frowned upon in both the elven and dwarven cultures. Might as well date an orc or something.

[SpursforSix]

Not to mention, Tauriel being only 900 years old to be "closer" to Kili's age (still roughly the square of his age though, LOL) kind of ruined the "Arwen being the last elf" plot consistent with the books and the LOTR movies... though Arwen was roughly 2,000 years old and married Aragorn, age 89 at the time of their marriage at Minas Tirith well after the ring had been destroyed (Aragorn himself descended from a line of elves and men who interbred -- the Dunedain -- and lived to be 500-1200 years old themselves)... there was no precedent of an elf and a dwarf marrying or procreating, never ever, as even mere friendship between the two races was frowned upon in both the elven and dwarven cultures. Might as well date an orc or something.

Great point. Now the whole 6 part series is full of holes, rendering it unwatchable. 5/10 for the first three. 2/10 for the rest. This is why I hope they will remake it. Maybe with Michael Bay.

[Xevious]

And the Rohan theme kicks so much ass.
Very much agree. My biggest beef with TTT is that the middle drags. Peter Jackson said he felt the need to "recap" events for those who hadn't seen Fellowship in a year. All the Elrond/Galadriel conversations and Aragorn/Arwen flashbacks were pointless and dragged the movie down. Plus I would've preferred that the Helms Deep battle played out more like the book without Elven involvement.

For what it's worth, Fellowship is easily my favorite movie of the series.

[Pauly D]

Very much agree. My biggest beef with TTT is that the middle drags. Peter Jackson said he felt the need to "recap" events for those who hadn't seen Fellowship in a year. All the Elrond/Galadriel conversations and Aragorn/Arwen flashbacks were pointless and dragged the movie down. Plus I would've preferred that the Helms Deep battle played out more like the book without Elven involvement.

For what it's worth, Fellowship is easily my favorite movie of the series.

But you have to admit, the sound of the horn and that music to the elves marching in was awesome. Plus it's not as if they saved the day or anything like that. In the end it was just men and some of the Fellowship characters

[Bender]

For what it's worth, Fellowship is easily my favorite movie of the series.

Mine too.

[TDMVPDPOY]

get rid of the midgets staring at a ring and it wouldve been a shorter movie...fck that shit kent anyway

[140]

get rid of the midgets staring at a ring and it wouldve been a shorter movie...fck that shit kent anyway

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Great point. Now the whole 6 part series is full of holes, rendering it unwatchable. 5/10 for the first three. 2/10 for the rest. This is why I hope they will remake it. Maybe with Michael Bay.
no


9/10 for the first three, 2/10 for the rest


the first 3 were a masterpiece.

[Pauly D]

no


9/10 for the first three, 2/10 for the rest


the first 3 were a masterpiece.

Don't fall for his shit. And some of yall are fucking faggots bitching about it being too long for real

[SpursforSix]

And some of yall are fucking faggots bitching about it being too long for real

I bet you never hear those gripes on a personal level.

[SpursforSix]

Don't fall for his shit. And some of yall are fucking faggots bitching about it being too long for real

and btw...it is due for a remake soon. It's been like 15 years. I was kidding about Michael Bay. But they could redo it with better effects for less money today.

[Agloco]

Hitching a ride on Gwaihir to Mount Doom would have obviated the need for a great many things.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's a trilogy like Rocky is a trilogy. It's not. There's 5 of them.

And then there is plot. The Ring trilogy is two plot lines with the second half of the return of the king being a different plot. In more complex fiction there are multiple plot lines that culminate into a single greater plot.

Rocky is the exact same simple plot over and over again.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

And then there is plot. The Ring trilogy is two plot lines with the second half of the return of the king being a different plot. In more complex fiction there are multiple plot lines that culminate into a single greater plot.

Rocky is the exact same simple plot over and over again.
Always thought Rocky Balboa was the most overrated thing ever. Really dumb. At least 21/22/whatever Jump Street never stops being funny

[Pauly D]

Hitching a ride on Gwaihir to Mount Doom would have obviated the need for a great many things.

Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? Are you just trolling? The fact that you used a name makes me think you're serious

[SpursforSix]

And then there is plot. The Ring trilogy is two plot lines with the second half of the return of the king being a different plot. In more complex fiction there are multiple plot lines that culminate into a single greater plot.

Rocky is the exact same simple plot over and over again.

No way. Each Rocky is different. Sure, he fights in each one but the plots are never about the fights. The various Rockys tackle everything from love to revenge, to redemption.

It's not like the Lord of the Rings six piece had separate plots. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them. But basically they are all about Hobbits and Wizards.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? Are you just trolling? The fact that you used a name makes me think you're serious
Wouldn't the Nazgul on their winged dragon-like steeds have destroyed the eagles?

[SpursforSix]

Wouldn't the Nazgul on their winged dragon-like steeds have destroyed the eagles?

No. They were faction joined.

[Pauly D]

Wouldn't the Nazgul on their winged dragon-like steeds have destroyed the eagles?

The eagles would've been corrupted by the ring themselves. The movies make them seem like mindless animals, kinda like horses, but they're self-aware like other races. Also, they kinda don't give a shit anyway

[SpursforSix]

The eagles would've been corrupted by the ring themselves. The movies make them seem like mindless animals, kinda like horses, but they're self-aware like other races. Also, they kinda don't give a shit anyway

On the record, the eagles communicated with the other races.

[Blake]

Not to mention, Tauriel being only 900 years old to be "closer" to Kili's age (still roughly the square of his age though, LOL) kind of ruined the "Arwen being the last elf" plot consistent with the books and the LOTR movies... though Arwen was roughly 2,000 years old and married Aragorn, age 89 at the time of their marriage at Minas Tirith well after the ring had been destroyed (Aragorn himself descended from a line of elves and men who interbred -- the Dunedain -- and lived to be 500-1200 years old themselves)... there was no precedent of an elf and a dwarf marrying or procreating, never ever, as even mere friendship between the two races was frowned upon in both the elven and dwarven cultures. Might as well date an orc or something.

Nerd

[Blake]

But really, my one beef with LOTR in the books is the lack of explanation as to why Saruman was reduced to a lame old fart.
How did he lose his power?

[SpursforSix]

But really, my one beef with LOTR in the books is the lack of explanation as to why Saruman was reduced to a lame old fart.
How did he lose his power?

He was cast down for transgressions in Olongapo.

[~O~]

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy is the best trilogy of all time. I gave all three 10 of 10. There's no such thing as perfect but man........those movies are fucking timeless. You can't do it any better and there's nothing I would change.

Best soundtrack from a movie series ever. Especially three movies. Best quality during its time recorded. Hell the quality of the lord of the rings trumps movies in 2004 to 2009 by a long shot.

I can still watch all three straight through and still not be bored. The length of all three movies were necessary. There is too much backstory for SIMPLE MINDED people to stay focused in movies such as LOTR. The structure of which they speak can't be broken down easily by people who haven't taken classical English classes or any course that deals with reading old English. I had to rewatch it after the first time..because I was too blown away and lost. lol

Every scene has importance and symbolism. Quality over quantity.

The CGI use was subtle and necessary for some scenes but excellent in its use during those times. It wasn't forced out of laziness and budget cuts like it is today. They did the best they could with what they were capable of. After all, there was no cap on budget. The film locations were real. Most of the the scenes when they were running or walking through beautiful lands were real themselves. Not CGI. What I'm trying to say is the fact the filmed it on site made it more elite, superb, timeless.

Some people even loved these films so much that they visited the actual locations of the film sets. Rohan most of all was my favorite.

I own the entire soundtrack from the first movie...to the last. Even the music in the 30 minute credit scenes. Absolutely the best soundtrack for a movie series of all time. Best trilogy in existence.

[SpursforSix]

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy is the best trilogy of all time. I gave all three 10 of 10. There's no such thing as perfect but man........those movies are fucking timeless. You can't do it any better and there's nothing I would change.

Best soundtrack from a movie series ever. Especially three movies. Best quality during its time recorded. Hell the quality of the lord of the rings trumps movies in 2004 to 2009 by a long shot.

I can still watch all three straight through and still not be bored. The length of all three movies were necessary. There is too much backstory for SIMPLE MINDED people to stay focused in movies such as LOTR. The structure of which they speak can't be broken down easily by people who haven't taken classical English classes or any course that deals with reading old English. I had to rewatch it after the first time..because I was too blown away and lost. lol

Every scene has importance and symbolism. Quality over quantity.

The CGI use was subtle and necessary for some scenes but excellent in its use during those times. It wasn't forced out of laziness and budget cuts like it is today. They did the best they could with what they were capable of. After all, there was no cap on budget. The film locations were real. Most of the the scenes when they were running or walking through beautiful lands were real themselves. Not CGI. What I'm trying to say is the fact the filmed it on site made it more elite, superb, timeless.

Some people even loved these films so much that they visited the actual locations of the film sets. Rohan most of all was my favorite.

I own the entire soundtrack from the first movie...to the last. Even the music in the 30 minute credit scenes. Absolutely the best soundtrack for a movie series of all time. Best trilogy in existence.

Yeah...I didn't really buy those walking and talking trees. Just superfluous flexing.

[~O~]

Yeah...I didn't really buy those walking and talking trees. Just superfluous flexing.

Well the talking trees. They could use better effects today but I truly didn't mind them being the way they were. I brushed it off. They did the best they could with what they had. The trees were necessary for Helms deep and against Isengard. They completely destroyed what was left of Saruman's army.

[SpursforSix]

Well the talking trees. They could use better effects today but I truly didn't mind them being the way they were. I brushed it off. They did the best they could with what they had. The trees were necessary for Helms deep and against Isengard. They completely destroyed what was left of Saruman's army.

It's one of the main reasons it falls flat to me. All of a sudden the trees are carrying the Hobbits around for what seemed like forever. On a journey they could never have made themselves. A convenient Deus ex Machina.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

But really, my one beef with LOTR in the books is the lack of explanation as to why Saruman was reduced to a lame old fart.
How did he lose his power?
Well, the Ents reduced Isengard to a bowl of mud soup, kind of like lower New Orleans after Katrina. Saruman lost his Palantir, and him and Wormtongue were pretty much forced to flee Orthanc. Saruman knew that the Valar order would not give him the same chance to return to middle earth as they had with Gandalf because Saruman had done too much evil. Saruman had to try to save face, so he tried to start back from the bottom... what better place than Hobbiton, which had once housed the Ringbearer himself who recently had vanquished his master?

[Blake]

Well, the Ents reduced Isengard to a bowl of mud soup, kind of like lower New Orleans after Katrina. Saruman lost his Palantir, and him and Wormtongue were pretty much forced to flee Orthanc. Saruman knew that the Valar order would not give him the same chance to return to middle earth as they had with Gandalf because Saruman had done too much evil. Saruman had to try to save face, so he tried to start back from the bottom... what better place than Hobbiton, which had once housed the Ringbearer himself who recently had vanquished his master?

I vaguely remember all that, but it still doesn't answer where his power went.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

The eagles would've been corrupted by the ring themselves. The movies make them seem like mindless animals, kinda like horses, but they're self-aware like other races. Also, they kinda don't give a shit anyway
Tolkien seemed to create a lot of these types of characters. Eagles, Ents, the Tom Bombadil... probably could think of others.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I vaguely remember all that, but it still doesn't answer where his power went.
After Gandalf had returned as a White Wizard, he was made the Head of the Order of the Istari (Wizards). Therefore, Saruman's main power he held after that was the power he had built up (the army of 10k Uruk-hai, the Palantir, etc) and when all that was destroyed at Isengard and Helm's Deep, he was basically just another Radagast the Brown - esque wizard in terms of power.

[hater]

Come again? How could you come even close to comparing those? Return of the King is 4 hours of incredible battles, TRULY beautiful visuals, and emotional climaxes. The only complaint I can understand is the ending and that's cause of awkward editing. All of those conclusions needed to be done but it was done so to where everyone now says "it has like 20 endings hurhurhur!" The first 3 and a half hours are flawless though

Return of the king is 3 hours of battles and 1 final hour of midgets, long eared faggots and others crying like little bitches. One hour long cryfest :lol sucked

[Agloco]

Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? Are you just trolling? The fact that you used a name makes me think you're serious

Lol, don't be such a faggot about this. Serious question. I'm not a middle earth scholar like you. I don't have the 411 on every race. Seems like an easy solution to a big problem. Fly that mofo in and GTFO before Sauron knows what hit him.

[Pauly D]

Lol, don't be such a faggot about this. Serious question. I'm not a middle earth scholar like you. I don't have the 411 on every race. Seems like an easy solution to a big problem. Fly that mofo in and GTFO before Sauron knows what hit him.

Ok, well that question has become somewhat of a meme over the years because it seems so obvious on first thought and because there's an easy answer. It the same reason why Gandalf, or even some elf or man warrior for that matter, didn't take it upon himself to take the ring. It's too tempting. Also, as Boromir even says at the counsel, "the great eye is ever watchful." A giant eagle flying into Mordor might draw some attention

[SpursforSix]

Ok, well that question has become somewhat of a meme over the years because it seems so obvious on first thought and because there's an easy answer. It the same reason why Gandalf, or even some elf or man warrior for that matter, didn't take it upon himself to take the ring. It's too tempting. Also, as Boromir even says at the counsel, "the great eye is ever watchful." A giant eagle flying into Mordor might draw some attention

Gandalf is a fucking powerful wizard with probably the truest moral compass of the lot. It seems pretty foolhardy to send out some Hobbits to do the job in the first place.

[Chris]

I vaguely remember all that, but it still doesn't answer where his power went.

Gandalf the White breaks his wand in the book, but Saruman still has his "gift of gab" so to speak to weasal his way back to the Shire with Wormtongue in tow.

[hater]

Tbh I'm no scholar and the question why they didn't fly on some creature is pretty simple for me. It's basically the same thing as asking why we can't fly to mars. We have the means and technology. But nobody ever did that so to be the first has its risks. What if you lose the damn ring midflight? What if a troll archer is waiting for you? Best thing to so is to move the ring through the shadows tbqh

[SpursforSix]

Tbh I'm no scholar and the question why they didn't fly on some creature is pretty simple for me. It's basically the same thing as asking why we can't fly to mars. We have the means and technology. But nobody ever did that so to be the first has its risks. What if you lose the damn ring midflight? What if a troll archer is waiting for you? Best thing to so is to move the ring through the shadows tbqh

No fucking way. They should have sent several eagles in waves, each with a riding Hobbit. Then have the Hobbit with the ring fly in after a couple of waves had gone.

[hater]

No fucking way. They should have sent several eagles in waves, each with a riding Hobbit. Then have the Hobbit with the ring fly in after a couple of waves had gone.

Right :rolleyes

That operation sounds very realistic

Who's going to logistically support that? A bunch of midgets in armor? :lmao

[Pauly D]

I already answered why. You stupid fucks are collaborating on this shitty thread

[SpursforSix]

Right :rolleyes

That operation sounds very realistic

Who's going to logistically support that? A bunch of midgets in armor? :lmao

We're talking about the fate of middle earth and regular earth. Every creatur approached bought in to the cause. Why would it be unbelievable that they all wouldn't be onboard?

[SpursforSix]

I already answered why. You stupid fucks are collaborating on this shitty thread

Then get the fuck out. God forbid that holes get poked into your damn favorite movies.

[hater]

We're talking about the fate of middle earth and regular earth. Every creatur approached bought in to the cause. Why would it be unbelievable that they all wouldn't be onboard?

the fate of millions is at stake in Syria yet the world powers won't work together to avoid their deaths. what makes you think that the factions in Middle Earth are any different??

[140]

the fate of millions is at stake in Syria yet the world powers won't work together to avoid their deaths. what makes you think that the factions in Middle Earth are any different??

because nobody cares about the Syrian people :lol

[SpursforSix]

the fate of millions is at stake in Syria yet the world powers won't work together to avoid their deaths. what makes you think that the factions in Middle Earth are any different??

I guess because every one in Middle Earth that was approached went ahead with helping the plan. I think they could find enough willing Hobbits and Eagles to execute the plan from my earlier post.

If not, then Gandalf might have to threaten a few to get them to go along.

And really, why doesn't Gandalf just do some more wizard stuff to get rid of the ring. Or create an army like Saruman and march that thing across Middle Earth to do the job.

[hater]

I guess because every one in Middle Earth that was approached went ahead with helping the plan. I think they could find enough willing Hobbits and Eagles to execute the plan from my earlier post.

Hobbits are basically the rednecks of Middle earth. Motherfuckers won't move a finger unless a giant is about to step on their offspring. They would basically ignore Gandalf and carry on with their lives.

[SpursforSix]

Hobbits are basically the rednecks of Middle earth. Motherfuckers won't move a finger unless a giant is about to step on their offspring. They would basically ignore Gandalf and carry on with their lives.

Ok. Then he needs to threaten them.

But again, he's a wizard. Why not just animate some clay statutes and send them in on the Eagles?

[hater]

Ok. Then he needs to threaten them.

But again, he's a wizard. Why not just animate some clay statutes and send them in on the Eagles?

Hobbits would just hide in their hole.

I doubt an eagle would let a clay statue touch them.

[SpursforSix]

Hobbits would just hide in their hole.

I doubt an eagle would let a clay statue touch them.

well then, I guess Gandalf is either incompetent or dumb for a wizard. Or both.

[Agloco]

Ok, well that question has become somewhat of a meme over the years because it seems so obvious on first thought and because there's an easy answer. It the same reason why Gandalf, or even some elf or man warrior for that matter, didn't take it upon himself to take the ring. It's too tempting. Also, as Boromir even says at the counsel, "the great eye is ever watchful." A giant eagle flying into Mordor might draw some attention

:tu
I've read that the Eagles are kinda like Bombadil in the sense that they stay out of MEs affairs. Maybe they were asked and gave everyone the finger? But what you sad makes sense I guess. Seeing a flight of Eagles coming into Mordor would draw some attention.

[Agloco]

the fate of millions is at stake in Syria yet the world powers won't work together to avoid their deaths. what makes you think that the factions in Middle Earth are any different??

Possibly because they faced a common enemy unlike we do here today?

[hater]

Possibly because they faced a common enemy unlike we do here today?

ISIS is not a common enemy???

[SpursforSix]

ISIS is not a common enemy???

no...not like Saruman. The relationship between Muslims and non-Mulsims is like the relationship between Hobbits and Trolls. Even though in normal times, Trolls will kill Hobbits, if there is an enemy that will threaten the whole world, then they will unite.

Saruman and his army are more like if aliens from outer space started to invade the world.

[hater]

Lol now you crossed the border into sillyness.


I'm out

[Agloco]

ISIS is not a common enemy???

Of course, but certainly not one that's just as strong as all of the worlds nations combined.

Sauron threatened to enslave all of ME. The same can't be said of ISIS.