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Blake
03-08-2016, 03:15 PM
PHOENIX (AP) — An atheist member of the Arizona House denied the chance to deliver the chamber's opening prayer by majority Republican leaders last month got the opportunity Thursday, only to see leaders rule his prayer didn't pass muster and call up a Christian pastor.

The opening prayer by Democrat Juan Mendez included a call to work to help the state and its residents flourish and to "honor the Constitution and the secular equality it brings." But he didn't pray to any deity, which infuriated some Republicans who are Christians.

Mendez said before the session that he had been invited to deliver the opening prayer by majority Republican leaders and that he didn't plan to invoke God.

After his prayer, House Majority Leader Steve Montenegro said Mendez's decision not to pray to God didn't meet House rules he issued earlier this year for the opening prayer. Speaker David Gowan then said "point of order well taken" and called on a Baptist minister on hand in an apparently planned response.

"At least let one voice today say thank you, God bless you," the Rev. Mark Mucklow said in closing.

The minister's invocation was followed by sharp comments from several Republicans who took issue with Mendez's prayer.

Rep. Warren Peterson, R-Gilbert, said prayers have been part of legislative meetings "since the founding of this great country."

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FuzzyLumpkins
03-08-2016, 03:19 PM
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right. -Paine

that was the seminal passage from the pamphlets passed out in massachusetts that actually fomented the rebellion.

boutons_deux
03-08-2016, 03:36 PM
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right. -Paine

Sounds like the Repug/Fox Repug strategy of repeating LIES often and long enough, suckers start believing them as true.

The Reckoning
03-09-2016, 08:33 AM
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right. -Paine

that was the seminal passage from the pamphlets passed out in massachusetts that actually fomented the rebellion.


thanks for the history lesson

boutons_deux
03-09-2016, 08:49 AM
Repugs/Fox "thinking a thing wrong"

Obama is Kenyan

Global warming is a hoax

Deficits REALLY matter

Balanced budget is mandatory.

Government IS the problem

Health care is a privilege, not a right

TX HB2 is to protect women's health.

Tax cuts pay for themselves

trickle down works

Privatization works better than government

Unions must be busted.

Public schools and teachers ALL suck, so charters are the answer

etc, etc, etc.

There's not one TRUTH in any of the Repug bullshit they con their base with.

FuzzyLumpkins
03-09-2016, 03:46 PM
thanks for the history lesson


Rep. Warren Peterson, R-Gilbert, said prayers have been part of legislative meetings "since the founding of this great country."

What I take away from this is that we have been dealing with priests since the dawn of history but that doesn't make it right.

SnakeBoy
03-10-2016, 03:16 PM
Why do atheist want to deliver prayers?

Blake
03-10-2016, 03:19 PM
Why do atheist want to deliver prayers?

Apparently to make a point. I'd say point got made.

SnakeBoy
03-10-2016, 06:31 PM
Apparently to make a point. I'd say point got made.

So God answered his prayer...that's cool.

ChumpDumper
03-10-2016, 06:32 PM
Why does anyone want to deliver a prayer at a gubmit function?

TeyshaBlue
03-10-2016, 06:52 PM
Why does anyone want to deliver a prayer at a gubmit function?
What does it pay?

Blake
03-10-2016, 07:00 PM
So God answered his prayer...that's cool.

So you didn't read the op. That's cool too.