View Full Version : Dances With Wolves - movie review
SpursforSix
03-13-2016, 08:42 PM
8/10. Sweeping epic with amazing cinematography and an almost perfect cast.
spurraider21
03-13-2016, 08:46 PM
ripped off the plot of avatar
SpursforSix
03-13-2016, 08:50 PM
ripped off the plot of avatar
There are only 7 plots of movies.
Revenge
Love
Sports
Comedy
Porn
Documentary
Race problems
So...you can pick any movie and say it ripped off some other.
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03-13-2016, 10:20 PM
Costner at his hammiest.
I cannot do this film, and I've tried it a dozen times.
No.
SpursforSix
03-13-2016, 10:31 PM
Costner at his hammiest.
I cannot do this film, and I've tried it a dozen times.
No.
Wrong again. Maybe you haven't seen about 15 other Costner movies. Robin Hood comes to mind. Bullshit if you've tried it a dozen times. Are you so retarded that you'd force yourself through something you didn't like the first 2 or 3.
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03-13-2016, 10:50 PM
Wrong again. Maybe you haven't seen about 15 other Costner movies. Robin Hood comes to mind. Bullshit if you've tried it a dozen times. Are you so retarded that you'd force yourself through something you didn't like the first 2 or 3.
Robin Hood was a political statement.
I've tried Wolves over a dozen times. It's insufferable.
He puts the ham aside in "Open Range."
SpursforSix
03-13-2016, 10:59 PM
Robin Hood was a political statement.
I've tried Wolves over a dozen times. It's insufferable.
He puts the ham aside in "Open Range."
I don't think the ham is ever put aside. He just happens to get in movies with big enough budgets to outcast his shortcomings. My favorite Costner movie is No Way Out.
SpursforSix
03-13-2016, 11:03 PM
Not to say he hasn't been in good movies. Just that he's usually the weakest actor.
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03-13-2016, 11:08 PM
I don't think the ham is ever put aside. He just happens to get in movies with big enough budgets to outcast his shortcomings. My favorite Costner movie is No Way Out.
I remember it.
The old back & forth on that monitor as it worked it's way into revealing Costner. It was good. Sean Young was really hot then.
SpursforSix
03-13-2016, 11:13 PM
I remember it.
The old back & forth on that monitor as it worked it's way into revealing Costner. It was good. Sean Young was really hot then.
Then the scene at the end with Costner speaking Russian. Clinched the movie imo.
I was like, "no he di'unt" before no he di'unt was a thing. Like Aaron Stamp in the Richard Gere flick.
I thought Kevin sounded like he was reading the narration instead of telling the story. Also, the idea of fucking a woman who probably never in history washed her snatch or trimmed it and sleeps near a wood fire after cleaning bison all day makes me ill. Stands with Cheese.
SpursforSix
03-13-2016, 11:33 PM
I thought Kevin sounded like he was reading the narration instead of telling the story. Also, the idea of fucking a woman who probably never in history washed her snatch or trimmed it and sleeps near a wood fire after cleaning bison all day makes me ill. Stands with Cheese.
That's funny you say that. That's exactly how it sounds. And I had those exact thoughts today. He's a terrible interpreter of how the script (any script) should go.
Idk though about the chick. I'm pretty sure all smells were pretty ripe back then. I think it would have been distracting if he mentioned how her vag smelled.
That's funny you say that. That's exactly how it sounds. And I had those exact thoughts today. He's a terrible interpreter of how the script (any script) should go.
Idk though about the chick. I'm pretty sure all smells were pretty ripe back then. I think it would have been distracting if he mentioned how her vag smelled.
Of the size and shape of the sootikin that rolled out of her cleft piss flaps.
DeadlyDynasty
03-14-2016, 09:53 AM
Tatonka
DeadlyDynasty
03-14-2016, 09:57 AM
Like the film but can't stand Costner...as stated earlier in this thread he's the weak link of every film he's in (like Silverado). The Postman has to be one of the Top 5 worst movies ever made, and Waterworld is not far behind. Would've preferred to see him do more roles like the Big Chill
clambake
03-14-2016, 10:38 AM
Like the film but can't stand Costner...Would've preferred to see him do more roles like the Big Chill
nice
JoeTait75
03-14-2016, 11:00 AM
Never seen it. Was it better than Goodfellas?
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03-14-2016, 11:12 AM
Like the film but can't stand Costner...as stated earlier in this thread he's the weak link of every film he's in (like Silverado). The Postman has to be one of the Top 5 worst movies ever made, and Waterworld is not far behind. Would've preferred to see him do more roles like the Big Chill
He's an asshole in Silverado. A scene stealing asshole.
Sportcamper
03-14-2016, 12:04 PM
Costner at his hammiest. I cannot do this film, and I've tried it a dozen times.
Too bad…Costner went out on a limb to make and complete the film…Great cast…Great music sound track...It won seven Academy Awards including Best Picture …Costner & Mary McDonnell were the weak acting links…”Tatanka”…
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-h9POd2Xan-c/UI1UMjbBSEI/AAAAAAAABrc/9UvbOEYjf_k/s1600/%2790+-+tatanka.png
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03-14-2016, 12:33 PM
Too bad…Costner went out on a limb to make and complete the film…Great cast…Great music sound track...It won seven Academy Awards including Best Picture …Costner & Mary McDonnell were the weak acting links…”Tatanka”…
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-h9POd2Xan-c/UI1UMjbBSEI/AAAAAAAABrc/9UvbOEYjf_k/s1600/%2790+-+tatanka.png
Limb? For some reason he was considered Hollywood royalty upon arrival. I still don't get it.
clambake
03-14-2016, 01:41 PM
fandango
spurraider21
03-14-2016, 02:18 PM
the first time you watch it is your best experience. the replay value sucks. with other movies, i can watch them 20 times over and its still great
runtime is way too long imo... i dont think it has aged that well, the movie is slow and pretty difficult to get through in one sitting if you're just watching tv at home
DisAsTerBot
03-14-2016, 02:52 PM
shiiiiiit. i watch it almost every time it's on tv
benefactor
03-14-2016, 02:55 PM
He puts the ham aside in "Open Range."
Probably my favorite role of his.
"Men are gonna get killed here today, Sue, and I'm gonna kill 'em."
Chris
03-14-2016, 03:04 PM
Probably a top 10 for me. I prefer the 4 hour version on laserdisk fwiw :cry Two Socks getting killed though :cry every time
Chris
03-14-2016, 03:06 PM
Limb? For some reason he was considered Hollywood royalty upon arrival. I still don't get it.
He was miscast in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves and buried himself proper on the money pit disaster that was Waterworld. I think they nailed his role in Field of Dreams imo
SpursforSix
03-14-2016, 04:21 PM
He was miscast in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves and buried himself proper on the money pit disaster that was Waterworld. I think they nailed his role in Field of Dreams imo
Right. Forgot about Field of Dreams. That should have been his wheelhouse. The everyday man. Not a hero or man of action. He was actually ok in Black and White or something like that.
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03-14-2016, 06:05 PM
Probably my favorite role of his.
"Men are gonna get killed here today, Sue, and I'm gonna kill 'em."
"I got no problem with killin', Boss. Never have."
I like the part in the alley toward the end where one bad guy has a hold of "Sue" and Costner guns him anyway. Her reaction is sublime and accurate,,,she's in an immediate state of shock. The look on her face is incredible. It's a nice touch she left there.
And Russo injects a certain something into the film. (What else is new,,,he always does whether it's "Once Upon a Time in America" OR "Beverly Hills Cop.") A violinist, he's not quite vested all the way in with his boss in "Open Range." There is a part of him that is still clean---He is smitten, perhaps even in love with "Sue." I imagine he's asked her out and she's rejected him steadfast. All he had to do was give up his life of corruption---and there could have been a chance? Maybe. They have their moment at the end in the street and it hurts to see him there at total loss. He's killed, put out of his misery moments later.
OR goes on a little too long. They stooped there and there is no going back. Sometimes I turned it off just after they get everybody to the Doc's house and before she goes to the saloon to meet with Costner. That doesn't belong in this film.
&&&ADDENDUM:::A hole in this movie is provided by the townspeople turning on the land baron pretty much at 100%. Doesn't stand the gaffe. They owe their very lives, their livelihoods to this man. He owns the town, the county, the immediate country. Anyone with half-a-brain and these people were not dummies, or, ignorant,,,they were smart and made to look intelligent by the production. That they would side with Costner, a drifter against land baron doesn't hold water. They try to cover by drumming into our ears and the townspeoples that Mose was murdered and the young French boy beaten and shot. + their dog was shot as well.
Where are these people going to go now. What are they going to do. The cash cow is dead. His relatives are going to come thru and liquidate.
SpursforSix
03-14-2016, 06:28 PM
"I got no problem with killin', Boss. Never have."
I like the part in the alley toward the end where one bad guy has a hold of "Sue" and Costner guns him anyway. Her reaction is sublime and accurate,,,she's in an immediate state of shock. The look on her face is incredible. It's a nice touch she left there.
And Russo injects a certain something into the film. (What else is new,,,he always does whether it's "Once Upon a Time in America" OR "Beverly Hills Cop.") A violinist, he's not quite vested all the way in with his boss in "Open Range." There is a part of him that is still clean---He is smitten, perhaps even in love with "Sue." I imagine he's asked her out and she's rejected him steadfast. All he had to do was give up his life of corruption---and there could have been a chance? Maybe. They have their moment at the end in the street and it hurts to see him there at total loss. He's killed, put out of his misery moments later.
OR goes on a little too long. They stooped there and there is no going back. Sometimes I turned it off just after they get everybody to the Doc's house and before she goes to the saloon to meet with Costner. That doesn't belong in this film.
&&&ADDENDUM:::A hole in this movie is provided by the townspeople turning on the land baron pretty much at 100%. Doesn't stand the gaffe. They owe their very lives, their livelihoods to this man. He owns the town, the county, the immediate country. Anyone with half-a-brain and these people were not dummies, or, ignorant,,,they were smart and made to look intelligent by the production. That they would side with Costner, a drifter against land baron doesn't hold water. They try to cover by drumming into our ears and the townspeoples that Mose was murdered and the young French boy beaten and shot. + their dog was shot as well.
Where are these people going to go now. What are they going to do. The cash cow is dead. His relatives are going to come thru and liquidate.
Way too long to read a criticism about a movie I don't much remember.
Avante
03-14-2016, 06:35 PM
Costner went to my old HS. As did Tommy Johnston with the Doobie Brothers, we both had the hots for the same girl...June Hall.
As did NFLers, Don Mosebar, Michael Young and Lupe Sanchez.
Have partied with Johnston and played football with Young and Sanchez,
SpursforSix
03-14-2016, 06:38 PM
Costner went to my old HS. As did Tommy Johnston with the Doobie Brothers, we both had the hots for the same girl...June Hall.
She was a whore. Thank god no one fucked her because Herpes would have killed Long Train Runnin.
Avante
03-14-2016, 06:43 PM
She was a whore. Thank god no one fucked her because Herpes would have killed Long Train Runnin.
June Hall was a 100% honey, incredible ass and legs. She asked me to the Sadie Hawkins dance, I was a far better dancer than Tommy was.
SpursforSix
03-14-2016, 06:55 PM
June Hall was a 100% honey, incredible ass and legs. She asked me to the Sadie Hawkins dance, I was a far better dancer than Tommy was.
While you and Tommy were having a dance off, the Doobies were taking turns with June. Long Train Runnin
Avante
03-14-2016, 07:03 PM
While you and Tommy were having a dance off, the Doobies were taking turns with June. Long Train Runnin
You try sooooooooooooo hard, why?
You're sooooooooooooo hard, why?
wow
Way too long to read a criticism about a movie I don't much remember.
I've never watched the movie and still thoroughly enjoyed the read.
It's worth it, Six. Trust me.
leemajors
03-14-2016, 10:03 PM
While you and Tommy were having a dance off, the Doobies were taking turns with June. Long Train Runnin
:tu
JMarkJohns
03-15-2016, 01:31 AM
Shit beat out Goodfellas. #OscarsSoWhiteGuilt
DeadlyDynasty
03-15-2016, 03:56 AM
"I got no problem with killin', Boss. Never have."
I like the part in the alley toward the end where one bad guy has a hold of "Sue" and Costner guns him anyway. Her reaction is sublime and accurate,,,she's in an immediate state of shock. The look on her face is incredible. It's a nice touch she left there.
And Russo injects a certain something into the film. (What else is new,,,he always does whether it's "Once Upon a Time in America" OR "Beverly Hills Cop.") A violinist, he's not quite vested all the way in with his boss in "Open Range." There is a part of him that is still clean---He is smitten, perhaps even in love with "Sue." I imagine he's asked her out and she's rejected him steadfast. All he had to do was give up his life of corruption---and there could have been a chance? Maybe. They have their moment at the end in the street and it hurts to see him there at total loss. He's killed, put out of his misery moments later.
OR goes on a little too long. They stooped there and there is no going back. Sometimes I turned it off just after they get everybody to the Doc's house and before she goes to the saloon to meet with Costner. That doesn't belong in this film.
&&&ADDENDUM:::A hole in this movie is provided by the townspeople turning on the land baron pretty much at 100%. Doesn't stand the gaffe. They owe their very lives, their livelihoods to this man. He owns the town, the county, the immediate country. Anyone with half-a-brain and these people were not dummies, or, ignorant,,,they were smart and made to look intelligent by the production. That they would side with Costner, a drifter against land baron doesn't hold water. They try to cover by drumming into our ears and the townspeoples that Mose was murdered and the young French boy beaten and shot. + their dog was shot as well.
Where are these people going to go now. What are they going to do. The cash cow is dead. His relatives are going to come thru and liquidate.
I forgot Russo was Bugsy in Once Upon a Time in America (my favorite film, FYI)...good memory, Cub:tu
Sportcamper
03-15-2016, 10:40 AM
Limb? For some reason he was considered Hollywood royalty upon arrival. I still don't get it.
The spec script originally written in 1980 went unsold…Nobody thought a Western would sell in the 80’s or 90’s…The novel version of Dances with Wolves was rejected by numerous publishers but finally published in paperback in 1988…Production delays were numerous because of South Dakota's unpredictable weather…Budget overruns…Particularly difficult was the film's centerpiece bison hunt sequence…100 Indian stunt riders and an actual stampeding herd of several thousand bison…Costner was injured & paid for the budget overruns out of his own pocket…Post editors & sound techs who worked for Costner before, help complete the final editing & dub for free…Studio executives were comparing the film to other recent bombs like Heaven’s gate and 1941… Dances with Wolves was dubbed "Kevin's Gate" by Hollywood critics…
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