Uh oh, 17 y.o. Trevon Johnson shot dead in Florida

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XezGBPPzTgY

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you say uh-oh, Darrin?

[DarrinS]

Why do you say uh-oh, Darrin?

Might turn into another shitstorm

[ChumpDumper]

Might turn into another shitstormProbably not.

[baseline bum]

http://dindunuffins.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/dindu_nuffin_muffins.jpg

[Wild Cobra]

I'm glad to see burgers get their due.

Rest in hell!

[ChumpDumper]

You consider burglary a capital offense?

[Aztecfan03]

but how's he gonna buy clothes if he doesn't steal?

[DarrinS]

but how's he gonna buy clothes if he doesn't steal?


What other way is there to get money?

[baseline bum]

If he's out of the house, she can't shoot, right? I know in Texas law you can kill someone as long as they're in your house since it's considered a violent act to break into a house or apartment even if no one is present (but not a closed business, for example, where there would be no expectation of someone being there).

LOL at him being from the hood and thus needing to get his money for school clothes from robbing houses.

[ChumpDumper]

If he's out of the house, she can't shoot, right? I know in Texas law you can kill someone as long as they're in your house since it's considered a violent act to break into a house or apartment even if no one is present (but not a closed business, for example, where there would be no expectation of someone being there).

LOL at him being from the hood and thus needing to get his money for school clothes from robbing houses.In Williamson county, you can just shoot anyone in any situation if you're scurred.

[baseline bum]

You consider burglary a capital offense?

I'd kill someone stealing my shit if he is in my house, because the cops sure don't give a fuck and aren't going to do anything to get my property back. When people I know have been robbed the police are completely useless. They only care about tickets and drugs.

[Wild Cobra]

You consider burglary a capital offense?

Does it matter?

He's a fucking scumbag violating someone elses home. How he's dead. I feel no remorse for those who commit first degree crimes crime against others.

Society is better of with one less skumbag.

[ChumpDumper]

Does it matter?

He's a fucking scumbag violating someone elses home. How he's dead. I feel no remorse for those who commit first degree crimes crime against othe
Society is better of with one less skumbag.So you consider burglary a capital offense?

[Wild Cobra]

I'd kill someone stealing my shit if he is in my house, because the cops sure don't give a fuck and aren't going to do anything to get my property back. When people I know have been robbed the police are completely useless. They only care about tickets and drugs.

That really is part of it. The justice system fails in so many ways. more people need to off buglers.

Buy a gun. Protect what is yours.

[clambake]

i'll give my take.

So you consider burglary a capital offense?

no.

but if he's busting in when i'm there, its a death sentence.

[Wild Cobra]

i'll give my take.


no.

but if he's busting in when i'm there, its a death sentence.

Same here.

I'm not sorry to see another burglar bite the dust.

[baseline bum]

i'll give my take.


no.

but if he's busting in when i'm there, its a death sentence.

His last thought will be 'damn that riva turbo x bumps' when in reality it was the mossberg.

[Blake]

I'd like more info. Where exactly was he when she shot him?

[clambake]

His last thought will be 'damn that riva turbo x bumps' when in reality it was the mossberg.

ha!!!!!!!!!

[Pelicans78]

So you consider burglary a capital offense?

What do you expect when someone's house is being robbed in the middle of the night? It can be a scary and traumatic situation. Plus the homeowner doesn't know if the burglar is armed. Quit being so obtuse all the time.

[Pelicans78]

Calling 911 is not good enough sometimes. Bad things can happen before the police arrive.

[SpursforSix]

Calling 911 is not good enough sometimes. Bad things can happen before the police arrive.

Someone once said, "911 is a joke".

[pgardn]

Calling 911 is not good enough sometimes. Bad things can happen before the police arrive.

Lotta stuff to weigh here. If the kid is leaving you shoot him in the back... Then his upstanding relatives get out of the pen and you get to think about protecting your family every night. Lots a crap comes with killing someone. Big talk is cheap when you have never actually had to carry out the act.

[clambake]

Lotta stuff to weigh here. If the kid is leaving you shoot him in the back... Then his upstanding relatives get out of the pen and you get to think about protecting your family every night. Lots a crap comes with killing someone. Big talk is cheap when you have never actually had to carry out the act.

would they only come after me if i shot him in the back?

are you saying this family is honorable and will only retaliate if i shoot him in the back?

[clambake]

and i get to think about protecting my family every night anyway.

[ChumpDumper]

What do you expect when someone's house is being robbed in the middle of the night? It can be a scary and traumatic situation. Plus the homeowner doesn't know if the burglar is armed. Quit being so obtuse all the time.So you consider someone leaving the house after breaking in a capital offense?

I just want to get the gist of when people want to shoot other people. I've had some pretty expensive stuff stolen from me. Never felt like killing anyone over it. It's just stuff.

[mingus]

Not sure he "deserved it", but he got what he had coming. Assuming he wasn't running away, I'd have shot him dead too.

[Trill Clinton]

you break in my house and you getting capped too. salute to the homeowner.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So you consider someone leaving the house after breaking in a capital offense?

I just want to get the gist of when people want to shoot other people. I've had some pretty expensive stuff stolen from me. Never felt like killing anyone over it. It's just stuff.
Were you in your home and did you know you were being burglarized at the time?

[CosmicCowboy]

So you consider someone leaving the house after breaking in a capital offense?

I just want to get the gist of when people want to shoot other people. I've had some pretty expensive stuff stolen from me. Never felt like killing anyone over it. It's just stuff.

Respect of personal space and property is a basic tenet of a civilized society. The animals that don't understand and respect this deserve what they get.

[ChumpDumper]

Were you in your home and did you know you were being burglarized at the time?Nope.

Again, it's just stuff. People are another matter.

[ChumpDumper]

Respect of personal space and property is a basic tenet of a civilized society. The animals that don't understand and respect this deserve what they get.So kill for space and property.

OK.

[CosmicCowboy]

So kill for space and property.

OK.

that is how SCOTUS saw it...trespass plus SUBJECTIVE fear

no objective proof of threat is required.

[pgardn]

would they only come after me if i shot him in the back?

are you saying this family is honorable and will only retaliate if i shoot him in the back?

In your case it would be in the mantle. Or possibly a siphon.


I presented as it was because retaliation is often circumstance subjective with criminals.

[pgardn]

and i get to think about protecting my family every night anyway.

Oh yeah?

Who is after you and your family?

[pgardn]

i'll give my take.


no.

but if he's busting in when i'm there, its a death sentence.

So how many people have you killed?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Nope.

Again, it's just stuff. People are another matter.

So nothing like OP's situation.

I don't think people here are advocating killing because of the actual stealing but the fact that someone invaded the place they call home. I'm not going to shoot someone for what they stole, I'm going to shoot someone for breaking in to my house.

[clambake]

In your case it would be in the mantle. Or possibly a siphon.


I presented as it was because retaliation is often circumstance subjective with criminals.

ummmm, i'll stand up to anybody that is a threat.

how about you?

[clambake]

Oh yeah?

Who is after you and your family?


paranoia doesn't live here.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Lotta stuff to weigh here. If the kid is leaving you shoot him in the back... Then his upstanding relatives get out of the pen and you get to think about protecting your family every night. Lots a crap comes with killing someone. Big talk is cheap when you have never actually had to carry out the act.
Why do you automatically assume his relatives are already in the pen?

[clambake]

Why do you automatically assume his relatives are already in the pen?

because i haven't killed them yet.

[ChumpDumper]

that is how SCOTUS saw it...trespass plus SUBJECTIVE fear

no objective proof of threat is required.So as long as the courts are good with it?


So nothing like OP's situation.

I don't think people here are advocating killing because of the actual stealing but the fact that someone invaded the place they call home. I'm not going to shoot someone for what they stole, I'm going to shoot someone for breaking in to my house.As he is leaving?

[baseline bum]

What an upstanding young man in his Pablo Escobar shirt in that pic from the news report.

[pgardn]

Why do you automatically assume his relatives are already in the pen?

You live in San Antonio?

Its something to consider.

You just don't kill someone and forget about it.

[pgardn]

and i get to think about protecting my family every night anyway.


ummmm, i'll stand up to anybody that is a threat.

how about you?

So who is after you?

[Splits]

Were you in your home and did you know you were being burglarized at the time?

Was she in her home when being burglarized or are you just making shit up again?

[TheSanityAnnex]

As he is leaving?
I personally wouldn't if he was fleeing, but I'm also not a 65 year old lady who's had her house burglarized multiple times.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Was she in her home when being burglarized or are you just making shit up again?
She was on her property when he was in her house.
Sympatizing with criminals :lol

[Splits]

She was on her property when he was in her house.
Sympatizing with criminals :lol

Nice goalpost move. Try actually watching the report before spouting out your ass.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Nice goalpost move. Try actually watching the report before spouting out your ass.
I did watch it. Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

[Splits]

Were you in your home and did you know you were being burglarized at the time?


Nope.

Again, it's just stuff. People are another matter.


So nothing like OP's situation.

I don't think people here are advocating killing because of the actual stealing but the fact that someone invaded the place they call home. I'm not going to shoot someone for what they stole, I'm going to shoot someone for breaking in to my house.


I did watch it. Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

Goalpost move. You obviously watched the video after I busted you.

She was not on her property when the crime was instigated. She called the cops while not on her property after being notified that her security system was set off, then proceeded to travel from not on her property to her property and kill the fleeing teenager. She was never in danger until she decided to go to the crime scene.

Teenagers do a lot of stupid shit, doesn't mean they should be killed for it.

[baseline bum]

Sounds like the motherfucker already robbed her house before. Good riddance.

[hater]

Wait so none of yu motherfuckers ever stole shit before??? Is this real life? :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

Goalpost move. You obviously watched the video after I busted you.

She was not on her property when the crime was instigated. She called the cops while not on her property after being notified that her security system was set off, then proceeded to travel from not on her property to her property and kill the fleeing teenager. She was never in danger until she decided to go to the crime scene.

Teenagers do a lot of stupid shit, doesn't mean they should be killed for it.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Wait so none of yu motherfuckers ever stole shit before??? Is this real life? :lol
The thought never crossed my mind to burglarize someone's house.

[Splits]

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

I busted you. Badly. Just admit it and move on. We all make mistakes.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Sounds like the motherfucker already robbed her house before. Good riddance.
:cry but he was just a teenager doing stupid shit :cry

[hater]

:lol fucking americans are so uptight. No wonder every day a few of yoh go bananas and start shooting niggas tbqh

live a little

[TheSanityAnnex]

I busted you. Badly. Just admit it and move on. We all make mistakes.
No, and terrible attempt at dodging the question.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

[Splits]

No, and terrible attempt at dodging the question.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

Busted you real good. Keep retreating and repeating.

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lol fucking americans are so uptight. No wonder every day a few of yoh go bananas and start shooting niggas tbqh

live a little
:cry steal my stuff I'll just cower in the corner and hope you leave :cry

[baseline bum]

:cry steal my stuff I'll just cower in the corner and hope you leave :cry

Sounds like the cops did a bang-up job last time her house was robbed.

[Splits]

:cry steal my stuff I'll just cower in the corner and hope you leave :cry

Which corner would that be? The one which was not on her property when the crime was being committed, or did you not watch the news report?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Busted you real good. Keep retreating and repeating.
:lol you are such a stupid fuck. How would I have responded to Chump without having seen the video and already known her age and that she was robbed multiple times? All of this before even seeing your post on the following page.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

[Splits]

:lol you are such a stupid fuck. How would I have responded to Chump without having seen the video and already known her age and that she was robbed multiple times? All of this before even seeing your post on the following page.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

It's obvious when someone busts you real good because you can't hold onto your Chump-imitation stick and devolve to name calling.

Got you good. It's OK, we all make mistakes. Just admit you were wrong and move on.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Which corner would that be? The one which was not on her property when the crime was being committed, or did you not watch the news report?
Lol pathetic criminal sympathizer. Go ahead, dodge the question again

[TheSanityAnnex]

It's obvious when someone busts you real good because you can't hold onto your Chump-imitation stick and devolve to name calling.

Got you good. It's OK, we all make mistakes. Just admit you were wrong and move on.

You are wrong about me watching the video but you're right, let's move on.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

[Splits]

How would I have responded to Chump without having seen the video and already known her age

Another lie. Order of events


Were you in your home and did you know you were being burglarized at the time?


Was she in her home when being burglarized or are you just making shit up again?

8 minutes later...


I personally wouldn't if he was fleeing, but I'm also not a 65 year old lady who's had her house burglarized multiple times.

You only knew her age after I busted you.

Busted hard.

Just admit it. It's OK to be caught in a lie.

[hater]

:cry steal my stuff I'll just cower in the corner and hope you leave :cry

Thats the thing u nigas go to the extreme.

beat the mofo with a metal baseball bat or something. Case closed

[TheSanityAnnex]

Another lie. Order of events





8 minutes later...



You only knew her age after I busted you.

Busted hard.

Just admit it. It's OK to be caught in a lie.
You've taken the quotes out of context and left out who I was replying to. When I read a thread I go in chronological order. I don't jump to the last page and work my way back. My response to Chump supports this. You are trying way too hard here in an attempt to not answer the question.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Thats the thing u nigas go to the extreme.

beat the mofo with a metal baseball bat or something. Case closed
She was 65. Good on her.

[Splits]

You've taken the quotes out of context and left out who I was replying to. When I read a thread I go in chronological order. I don't jump to the last page and work my way back. My response to Chump supports this. You are trying way too hard here in an attempt to not answer the question.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

Those quotes were all in chronological order. I busted you real good, twice. First, you thought she was on her own property as the crime was instigated. Then, you claimed you watched the video because you sighted her age, when in reality you only did that after I busted you the first time.

Most people call that a two-piece.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Those quotes were all in chronological order. I busted you real good, twice. First, you thought she was on her own property as the crime was instigated. Then, you claimed you watched the video because you sighted her age, when in reality you only did that after I busted you the first time.

Most people call that a two-piece.
When I mentioned her age to Chump was that before or after I responded to you?

[Splits]

When I mentioned her age to Chump was that before or after I responded to you?

It was 8 minutes after I busted you the first time.

How old was she?

[spurraider21]

I'd kill someone stealing my shit if he is in my house, because the cops sure don't give a fuck and aren't going to do anything to get my property back. When people I know have been robbed the police are completely useless. They only care about tickets and drugs.
i agree with the bold but not for the reason you gave :lol... if i'm home while shit like that is going down, i'm not taking chances. what am i gna do, startle somebody who may or may not be armed? tell him "hey, stop it! i called the police."

who knows how he's going to respond. at that point he could be as scared as i am and act irrationally. i know logically, burglars are looking for valuables, not blood, but in the heat of the moment, somebody who is desperate and had the mindset to break into a home could do anything. i'm sure as hell not gna attempt a "citizens arrest"... hold a gun on him and wait for the cops to show :lol

[Splits]

i agree with the bold but not for the reason you gave :lol... if i'm home while shit like that is going down, i'm not taking chances. what am i gna do, startle somebody who may or may not be armed? tell him "hey, stop it! i called the police."

who knows how he's going to respond. at that point he could be as scared as i am and act irrationally. i know logically, burglars are looking for valuables, not blood, but in the heat of the moment, somebody who is desperate and had the mindset to break into a home could do anything. i'm sure as hell not gna attempt a "citizens arrest"... hold a gun on him and wait for the cops to show :lol

All of which is irrelevant in this case because the homeowner was not at home when the crime was instigated (shhh, don't tell TSA)

[TheSanityAnnex]

It was 8 minutes after I busted you the first time.

How old was she?
You failed to answer another question, the constant deflection is getting pathetic even for you Splits. I'm obviously not going to change your mind so there is no point of discussing that any further. With that out of the way move on and answer my question.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?


another dodge and more deflection in 3....2....1....

[TheSanityAnnex]

All of which is irrelevant in this case because the homeowner was not at home when the crime was instigated (shhh, don't tell TSA)
Was the homeowner on her property while a crime was being committed yes or no?

[Splits]

Was the homeowner on her property while a crime was being committed yes or no?

I'll answer this question if you tell me how old the killer is.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'll answer this question if you tell me how old the killer is.

More deflection and already answered in this thread. Answer the question you've been asked numerous times.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Oh noes I didn't take notes when I watched the video and got her age wrong. For fucks sake answer the question.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

[spurraider21]

All of which is irrelevant in this case because the homeowner was not at home when the crime was instigated (shhh, don't tell TSA)
yeah, i'm not speakin about the particular case in the op, just in general

[Splits]

Oh noes I didn't take notes when I watched the video and got her age wrong. For fucks sake answer the question.

Was she on her property and was he burglarizing her home when she shot him yes or no?

:lmao So you went back and watched it a second time to try and get your facts in order? You posted twice she was 65 when clearly in the news report that is not her age. Busted you 3 times in the matter of 1 hour

Anyways, if you want me to answer your non-topical question, the news report, based on the statements from the police, does not conclude positively or negatively whether or not she was on her property when he was committing the crime. What it does tell us is that when the crime was instigated, she was not on her property. Her home security system alerted her to the crime. She then called the police. Rather than letting the police respond, she "rushed" to her property, where the suspect was apparently fleeing. When she killed him, it is not specified whether she was on her property or not, and says that the suspect was trying to run away.



News report:

Shooting and killing a would-be burglar as he was climbing out of her window...

Homeowner setup these surveillance cameras, detectives say security system alerted the homeowner of the breakin...

Detectives say the 54 year old was alerted to the breaking by her security system, with officers already on their way, she rushed home...

She observed a subject, exiting her home from the rear...

Detectives want to remind that if possible, it's best not to take the situation into your own hands...


But that is all moot. I busted you really good, three times. You thought her choice was to hide or to shoot, when in reality her choice was to stay off her property and allow the cops to handle it, or take the law into her own hands and kill a teenager. To cover up your initial mistake, you claimed to know her age when my first bust of you was already complete. Finally, she is not 65 as you claimed twice, but 54, according to the OP news report.

Just stop digging your grave man. Move on. I've owned you here in a dastardly fashion.

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lmao you posted twice she was 65 when clearly in the news report that is not her age. Busted you 3 times in the matter of 1 hour

Anyways, if you want me to answer your non-topical question, the news report, based on the statements from the police, does not conclude positively or negatively whether or not she was on her property when he was committing the crime. What it does tell us is that when the crime was instigated, she was not on her property. Her home security system alerted her to the crime. She then called the police. Rather than letting the police respond, she "rushed" to her property, where the suspect was apparently fleeing. When she killed him, it is not specified whether she was on her property or not, and says that the suspect was trying to run away.



But that is all moot. I busted you really good, three times. You thought her choice was to hide or to shoot, when in reality her choice was to stay off her property and allow the cops to handle it, or take the law into her own hands and kill a teenager. To cover up your initial mistake, you claimed to know her age when my first bust of you was already complete. Finally, she is not 65 as you claimed twice, but 54, according to the OP news report.

Just stop digging your grave man. Move on. I've owned you here in a dastardly fashion.
lol @ busted for not taking notes on a news story.

I have no sympathy for criminals, it's truly pathetic to see you run to their defense and attack the victim.

[Splits]

lol @ busted for not taking notes on a news story.

I have no sympathy for criminals, it's truly pathetic to see you run to their defense and attack the victim.

:lmao so I finally answer your non-topical question with truth bombs and your response is to ignore every one of those truths, deflect, and write-off how wrong you are.

Got it. This is why I don't respond to any of your "questions". Because when I own you (for now the 4th time) you are non-responsive.

I don't think a non-threatening teenager who is fleeing a crime scene without a weapon when nobody is in harm's way is deserving of death. But you do.

Makes sense.

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lmao so I finally answer your non-topical question with truth bombs and your response is to ignore every one of those truths, deflect, and write-off how wrong you are.

Got it. This is why I don't respond to any of your "questions". Because when I own you (for now the 4th time) you are non-responsive.

I don't think a non-threatening teenager who is fleeing a crime scene without a weapon when nobody is in harm's way is deserving of death. But you do.



Now the lady knew he was unarmed and non-threatening when she shot him? nice truth bombs lol
I already said I wouldn't shoot in her situation, but I've got nothing wrong with her doing what she did. Fuck criminals, don't think her house will be getting robbed anymore.

[baseline bum]

i agree with the bold but not for the reason you gave :lol... if i'm home while shit like that is going down, i'm not taking chances. what am i gna do, startle somebody who may or may not be armed? tell him "hey, stop it! i called the police."

who knows how he's going to respond. at that point he could be as scared as i am and act irrationally. i know logically, burglars are looking for valuables, not blood, but in the heat of the moment, somebody who is desperate and had the mindset to break into a home could do anything. i'm sure as hell not gna attempt a "citizens arrest"... hold a gun on him and wait for the cops to show :lol

Oh yeah, I agree with that. But I meant in this woman's situation I would kill him coming through the window so I could get my shit back.

[Splits]

Now the lady knew he was unarmed and non-threatening when she shot him? nice truth bombs lol
I already said I wouldn't shoot in her situation, but I've got nothing wrong with her doing what she did. Fuck criminals, don't think her house will be getting robbed anymore.

In a just world she would be on trial for homicide.

In the real world, her house may not get robbed anymore because it will be seized as part of an unlawful death civil suit.

Glad to hear you support the murder of kids who steal. Pretty admirable stance.

[Blake]

Glad to hear you support the murder of kids who steal. Pretty admirable stance.

In Texus we sure as all get out do


Christmas Eve in 2009, Ezekiel Gilbert paid an escort he found on Craigslist*$150 for what he thought would be sex. Instead, according to theSan Antonio Express-News, 23-year-old Lenora Frago left his apartment after about 20 minutes without consummating the act. Gilbert, now 30, followed her to a car with a gun and shot her in the neck through the passenger-side window. Frago became paralyzed, and died about seven months later. Gilbert admitted to shooting her but contended that he did not intend to kill.

Gilbert was tried for murder. Last Wednesday, aTexas*jury ruled that his actions were legal. That’s because Texas penal code contains an unusual provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property.”

http://nation.time.com/2013/06/13/when-you-can-kill-in-texas/

[boutons_deux]

"unusual provision" in :lol gun fellatin, Bible-humping, racist, retrograde TX?

unusual? :lol

[MultiTroll]

In Texus we sure as all get out do

But is it right? Chump with a point of view:

https://youtu.be/OxoaF-wR-co

[Blake]

But is it right? Chump with a point of view:

https://youtu.be/OxoaF-wR-co

Good god where did you dig that hideous YouTube up

Of course it's not right. The ruling in effect is saying that $150 is worth more than her life.

[MultiTroll]

Good god where did you dig that hideous YouTube up

Of course it's not right. The ruling in effect is saying that $150 is worth more than her life.
Chump was at The Iron Bear and asked a small indie company to film.

[ChumpDumper]

Rent free.

[baseline bum]

In Texus we sure as all get out do

150 roses and the bitch don't put out?

[CosmicCowboy]

150 roses and the bitch don't put out?

:lmao no "smiles" there!

[baseline bum]

Apparently the fake whore got paralyzed from a fragment of a bullet when the john shot out her cars tires, and that's why he got off for murder (stupid whore later died :lol).