Who was the better player: 2004-2006 Nash or 2014-2016 Curry?

[LkrFan]

These were their peak years IMO. Over these seasons, here's how they stacked up:

Nash: 15.9ppg 10.3apg 3.5rpg 50.4% 42.5%3ptrs 90.8%FTs (2x MVP)
Curry: 26.1ppg 7.5apg 4.6rpg 49.0% 44.3%3ptrs 90.1%FTs (2x MVP, FMVP)

The way he's been lighting it up this year, most would say Curry has had the best run when comparing peaks. Nash was a beast though. I think if 2004-2006 Nash were on this Dubs team, they'd still be the favorites to win it all. Steph is the best shooter I've ever seen, but Prime Nash had a wet jumper too. Plus Nash was a better passer. I think I'd take Nash.

Thoughts?

[Thread]

Nash could never finish, Dallas, up the street, or, with 12.

Curry curried favor by finishing.

[Mitch]

Winner vs loser

[LkrFan]

Nash could never finish, Dallas, up the street, or, with 12.

Curry curried favor by finishing.

I hear ya, but Nash had a Horryble incident that derailed his 2007 season tbh.

[Thread]

:lol salivating over a potential warrior loss like it means anything

It does mean something, Mitch. It brings the Spurs into control again.

State isn't playing for the Bull's record. They're playing to start in CA.. If they start in San Antonio they cannot get there.

[LkrFan]

Winner vs loser

Curry didn't have to go thru Prime Kobe.

[Thread]

I hear ya, but Nash had a Horryble incident that derailed his 2007 season tbh.

That didn't happen till later when his wife delivered a black baby.

[Mitch]

It does mean something, Mitch. It brings the Spurs into control again.

State isn't playing for the Bull's record. They're playing to start in CA.. If they start in San Antonio they cannot get there.

Just have that barrel ready for tomorrow, Cub

[Mitch]

Curry didn't have to go thru Prime Kobe.

Curry went through Lebron, close enough

[LkrFan]

That didn't happen till later when his wife delivered a black baby.

:rollin :lmao :rollin

[140]

Nash could never finish, Dallas, up the street, or, with 12.

Curry curried favor by finishing.
Did you just do 12? :wow

[LkrFan]

Curry went through Lebron, close enough

Truth. How do you think a Prime Nash-led Dubs team would fare?

[Thread]

Just have that barrel ready for tomorrow, Cub

If they lose tonite they'll be nary barrel tomorrow.

[Thread]

Did you just do 12? :wow

I took Split's olive branch and made a Popsicle out of him.

[Mitch]

If they lose tonite they'll be nary barrel tomorrow.

If Spurs lose, you should have a single barrel to remind the fucks upstairs.

[Mitch]

Truth. How do you think a Prime Nash-led Dubs team would fare?

Nash could never be counted on for 40ppg, you don't change the most important part of the dubs and expect a positive result. I figure they'll be below spur-level

[Splits]

Did you just do 12? :wow

Beat me to it.

[Thread]

If Spurs lose, you should have a single barrel to remind the fucks upstairs.

If I'm eligible to roll a barrel tomorrow nite I'll be a monkey's ass.

[TDMVPDPOY]

prime nash was busy padding his assists column

how many times did you see him penetrate into the key only to dribble back out when he had an open layup? what a fkn clown

[Mitch]

If I'm eligible to roll a barrel tomorrow nite I'll be a monkey's ass.

:tu

I'll roll one in your stead if you aren't

[LkrFan]

Nash could never be counted on for 40ppg, you don't change the most important part of the dubs and expect a positive result. I figure they'll be below spur-level

They're shooting is a wash. Difference? Steph chucked more - not really Nash’s game. He turned Amare into a stone cold Duncan killa. Imagine what Nash could do with all the weapons Curry has.

[140]

prime nash was busy padding his assists column

how many times did you see him penetrate into the key only to dribble back out when he had an open layup? what a fkn clown
At least he looked to pass unlike pos porker

[Mitch]

They're shooting is a wash. Difference? Steph chucked more - not really Nash’s game. He turned Amare into a stone cold Duncan killa. Imagine what Nash could do with all the weapons Curry has.

They're that good because Curry guts the defense by being on the court, his range is basically at your hometown of Guadalajara, jorje

[313]

Nash was a good shooter, but selective. He couldn't dream of shooting like Curry on his best day.

[LkrFan]

They're that good because Curry guts the defense by being on the court, his range is basically at your hometown of Guadalajara, jorje:lmao

[midnightpulp]

Curry didn't have to go thru Prime Kobe.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Jalen Rose, Reggie Miller, Austin Croshere, A.I., Rip Hamilton, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Juan Carlos Navarro, Rudy Fernandez, and some unknown Argentine named P. Quineros have all gotten the best of Kirby over a series/in an important game. I don't think the GOAT shooter would have any problem. Steph would have Kirby on skates. In Kirb's limited defense, Steph would be hidden on Fisher and not be tasked with guarding Kobe since Steph is a PG. My only criticism toward Wardell is that he carries zero defensive load.

[DMC]

:lol salivating over a potential warrior loss like it means anything


It does mean something, Mitch. It brings the Spurs into control again.

State isn't playing for the Bull's record. They're playing to start in CA.. If they start in San Antonio they cannot get there.


Winner vs loser

Mitch editing his post once he saw Dale was invested in it.

:lmao

[Arcadian]

Curry has 1 MVP and 0 FMVPs, excuse you.

[Thread]

Curry has 1 MVP and 0 FMVPs, excuse you.

I'm goin' back to bed. I can't fucking take this shit.

You gd piss pots.

[LkrFan]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Jalen Rose, Reggie Miller, Austin Croshere, A.I., Rip Hamilton, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Juan Carlos Navarro, Rudy Fernandez, and some unknown Argentine named P. Quineros have all gotten the best of Kirby over a series/in an important game. I don't think the GOAT shooter would have any problem. Steph would have Kirby on skates. In Kirb's limited defense, Steph would be hidden on Fisher and not be tasked with guarding Kobe since Steph is a PG. My only criticism toward Wardell is that he carries zero defensive load.

Trolling I see :lol Prime Kobe would bust 2016 Curry's assPERIOD. It wouldn't be fair.

Curry is great - I have 0 hate for him...but WTF this thread gots to do with Kobe? That rent free thingy is real. Damn. :lmao

[Arcadian]

I'm goin' back to bed. I can't fucking take this shit.

You gd piss pots.

http://www.nba.com/history/nba-finals-mvp-award-winners/

He isn't on the list, is he?

[baseline bum]

Truth. How do you think a Prime Nash-led Dubs team would fare?

They'd get waxed by the Spurs in 5 or 6. Nash is a loser despite the stacked supporting casts he had. Nash is to Curry what Iverson was to Bryant.

[baseline bum]

They're shooting is a wash. Difference? Steph chucked more - not really Nash’s game. He turned Amare into a stone cold Duncan killa. Imagine what Nash could do with all the weapons Curry has.

You got it twisted man. Imagine what Curry could do with pre-microfracture Stoudemire in the pick and roll.

[Mugen]

:lol You're a good man, Consuelo, but your basketball takes are terrible tbh.....

[LkrFan]

They'd get waxed by the Spurs in 5 or 6. Nash is a loser despite the stacked supporting casts he had. Nash is to Curry what Iverson was to Bryant.

Nash was cheated in 2007. Let's not forget son.

[LkrFan]

:lol You're a good man, Consuelo, but your basketball takes are terrible tbh.....
Thanks? :lol

[baseline bum]

Nash was cheated in 2007. Let's not forget son.

That was a bullshit rule, but Nash still got raped in Game 6 at the AT&T Center by a Spurs team not anywhere near as strong as this year's team that got wrecked by Curry.

[LkrFan]

That was a bullshit rule, but Nash still got raped in Game 6 at the AT&T Center by a Spurs team not anywhere near as strong as this year's team that got wrecked by Curry.

They would have won game 5. If they lost game 6, who cares? We know the Spurs don't fair well in game 7s. Fact.

[Sean Cagney]

Nash was a good shooter, but selective. He couldn't dream of shooting like Curry on his best day.

That is saying something too because Nash could shoot.... Nash was more about selection though as you said and setting up his teammates while Curry just shoots out of this world.
That was a bullshit rule, but Nash still got raped in Game 6 at the AT&T Center by a Spurs team not anywhere near as strong as this year's team that got wrecked by Curry.

IF the Spurs do not blow that game 4 at home they were on their way to being up 3-1 basically and in total control of that series. Series was only tied 2-2 and heads act like the Spurs stole a series when they were in control of most of it SMH...
They would have won game 5. If they lost game 6, who cares? We know the Spurs don't fair well in game 7s. Fact.

Game 7 Detroit, Game 7 Dallas in 014 and Game 7 in 2008 at NO says otherwise...... Sure they lost a few too.

They came back the next year and beat PHX 4-1 to kill all that talk too, they never could beat the Spurs it seemed.

[Mitch]

They would have won game 5. If they lost game 6, who cares? We know the Spurs don't fair well in game 7s. Fact.

Hey pepe, tell your boy to shut up
http://i.imgur.com/BwBVPyo.gif

[LkrFan]

Hey pepe, tell your boy to shut up
http://i.imgur.com/BwBVPyo.gif
:lol

¿Por qué hijo? Él habla la verdad y nada pero el período de verdad! :lmao

[LkrFan]

That is saying something too because Nash could shoot.... Nash was more about selection though as you said and setting up his teammates while Curry just shoots out of this world.

IF the Spurs do not blow that game 4 at home they were on their way to being up 3-1 basically and in total control of that series. Series was only tied 2-2 and heads act like the Spurs stole a series when they were in control of most of it SMH...

Game 7 Detroit, Game 7 Dallas in 014 and Game 7 in 2008 at NO says otherwise...... Sure they lost a few too.

They came back the next year and beat PHX 4-1 to kill all that talk too, they never could beat the Spurs it seemed.

Interesting. I coulda sworn y'all got Clipped in a game 7 just last year. Amirite? :downspin:

[midnightpulp]

Trolling I see :lol Prime Kobe would bust 2016 Curry's assPERIOD. It wouldn't be fair.

Curry is great - I have 0 hate for him...but WTF this thread gots to do with Kobe? That rent free thingy is real. Damn. :lmao

You brought Kirby into the discussion, not me.

[Mitch]

:lol

¿Por qué hijo? Él habla la verdad y nada pero el período de verdad! :lmao

That fucker is not only going to pay for the wall, he'll be there helping to build it.
http://i.imgur.com/sK8DUWI.gif

[baseline bum]

They would have won game 5. If they lost game 6, who cares? We know the Spurs don't fair well in game 7s. Fact.

Why would they have won Game 5 and Game 7? That Suns team was shit at home against the Spurs.

[LkrFan]

That fucker is not only going to pay for the wall, he'll be there helping to build it.
http://i.imgur.com/sK8DUWI.gif

WTF? :rollin :lmao :rollin

[benefactor]

That fucker is not only going to pay for the wall, he'll be there helping to build it.
http://i.imgur.com/sK8DUWI.gif
:lol

[Kidd K]

Curry didn't have to go thru Prime Kobe.

I'm curious why you're crediting Kobe for Nash's lack of title when "Kobe's Lakers" were trash when Nash was at his peak in PHX and the Lakers never knocked them out during that span. It was the Spurs who forced him and his Suns into bitch status.

04-05: Loses to that year's champion Spurs in WCF.
05-06: Beats Lakers in first rounds, loses to Mavs in WCF, avoided Spurs since Mavs beat them.
06-07: Loses to that year's champion Spurs again, this time in the 2nd round.
07-08:Loses to Spurs YET AGAIN.

Nice revisionist history there Lakerfan. Even in Nash's 4 years before leaving Dallas for Phoenix, he lost to the Kings twice and the Spurs twice. So 01-09, he was knocked out by Spurs 5x, early 00's Kings twice, and Mavs once. He was 1-0 vs the Lakers in the playoffs in that span.

[Molotov]

That fucker is not only going to pay for the wall, he'll be there helping to build it.
http://i.imgur.com/sK8DUWI.gif




:lol

[Spurtacular]

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Did Nash deserve the back to back MVPs in your opinion?

[jacobdrj]

This is a very good question. I have been contemplating questions like this all year. The first question I'd counter with is: 04 rules or 16 rules? I submit that LOTS of old time players who were role players or borderline stars with 04 rules (or 90's rules) would have been stars and borderline superstars, respectively, with '16 rules... Dell Curry, Steve Kerr, Sam Perkins, all would have benefitted from current defenses... Peja Stojakavic, Ray Allen and Reggie Miller would have been tier 1 superstars... I think Nash is in that same boat... But if Steph Curry played in 04, he might have become a star, but he more likely would have been relegated to spot up shooter duty or situational 3 point specialist sub...

I mean, we have seen the evolution of other guys like Kyle Korver who played in parts of both eras, and he went from role player to All Star due to the rule changes...

[jacobdrj]

Not in mine: Maybe the 1st one, but the 2nd should have gone to either Kobe or Billups...

[LkrFan]

Did Nash deserve the back to back MVPs in your opinion?

No.

[Spurtacular]

No.

And who deserved the Nash MVPs? And is Curry deserving of back to back MVPs?

[ambchang]

And who deserved the Nash MVPs? And is Curry deserving of back to back MVPs?

Probably Garnett or dirk in 05, and dirk or Lebron in 06.

Curry deserves his as well. All four years are pretty weak from an individual contributor perspective.

I will take peak curry over Nash. While currys defense isn't awesome, he looks like Gary Payton compared to Nash.

[Spurtacular]

Probably Garnett or dirk in 05, and dirk or Lebron in 06.

Curry deserves his as well. All four years are pretty weak from an individual contributor perspective.

I will take peak curry over Nash. While currys defense isn't awesome, he looks like Gary Payton compared to Nash.

Yea, but KG and Dirk had won MVPs; and the media had a Steve Nash fetish that year. I think they may have given either of them (Kg, Dirk) the MVP in 05 if they knew Nash would be better the next year. I think Lebron was just stat stuffing in 06 whereas Nash was truly brilliant.

I had originally asked because in Open Court Shaq had it in his head that he was somehow robbed out of MVPs those years.

[ambchang]

Yea, but KG and Dirk had won MVPs; and the media had a Steve Nash fetish that year. I think they may have given either of them (Kg, Dirk) the MVP in 05 if they knew Nash would be better the next year. I think Lebron was just stat stuffing in 06 whereas Nash was truly brilliant.

I had originally asked because in Open Court Shaq had it in his head that he was somehow robbed out of MVPs those years.

Dirk didn't win till 07.

Garnett won in 04 and I guess people thought he didn't deserve it when the wolves weren't progressing people expected them to in 05.

Lebron helped the cavs a lot in 06, that roster was horrible.

Shaq felt he had a case because the heat improved a lot that year after getting him, but he dismissed wades improvement.

[gambit1990]

kerr's a better coach than dantoni.

[HemisfairArena]

I would be as pissed as Thread is if my team was the Suns,,,,I feel bad for the TOSB,,,,,

[Obstructed_View]

And who deserved the Nash MVPs?

Shaq and Lebron.