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ivanfromwestwood
03-25-2016, 09:56 PM
Who else is shooting from the mid-range and dominating inside like that?

Kawhitstorm
03-25-2016, 09:57 PM
Cousins/Towns

SquawkinHawkBigCock
03-25-2016, 09:57 PM
That guy in New Orleans

TheGreatYacht
03-25-2016, 09:58 PM
Easily. The other good bigs play for shitty teams fishing lottery picks

apalisoc_9
03-25-2016, 09:58 PM
Hmm good question.

On top of my head...Blake, Davis for sure a re better...Cousins is a dumbass but very talented..raymond is very valuable.for his team

Top 6 bigman for sure.

Kawhitstorm
03-25-2016, 09:58 PM
That guy in New Orleans

Brow has no post-up game, he's a jump-shooter/face-up guy like Bosh.

TheGreatYacht
03-25-2016, 09:59 PM
Cousins :lol low 40%fg player

Kawhitstorm
03-25-2016, 09:59 PM
Cousins :lol low 40%fg player

That's b/c he takes dumb shots like WestBrick:lol

TheGreatYacht
03-25-2016, 10:00 PM
Aldridge dropped his season high on Brow, I'll pass up on that injury prone stat padder tbh

Robz4000
03-25-2016, 10:00 PM
That guy in New Orleans

The guy whose out for the season (again)?

spursparker9
03-25-2016, 10:01 PM
IMHO, Cousins and Anthony Davis > LMA

PopTheGOAT
03-25-2016, 10:02 PM
Cousins or Davis are the only ones you could argue. But cancer to team/injury prone so Lamarcus gets the edge to me

Mnky
03-25-2016, 10:04 PM
Aldridge dropped his season high on Brow, I'll pass up on that injury prone stat padder tbh

I had LMA as the No.2 coming into this season behind Davis. Griffin was making a point for that spot before he fell apart off the court. Davis has been so Injury plagued and is very inconsistent.

I think drummond doesn't get enough credit for his efforts.

LMA definitely makes a case. He is a big reason his record setting spurs have one of the best defenses in the game.

ivanfromwestwood
03-25-2016, 10:04 PM
I can't think of a big I would take over him right now.

UNT Eagles 2016
03-25-2016, 10:05 PM
Cousins: dumbass and inconsistent
Towns: will be good, but too raw for now and not a winner yet
Davis: overrated and oft-injured

UNT Eagles 2016
03-25-2016, 10:05 PM
I can't think of a big I would take over him right now.

TheGreatYacht
03-25-2016, 10:09 PM
I had LMA as the No.2 coming into this season behind Davis. Griffin was making a point for that spot before he fell apart off the court. Davis has been so Injury plagued and is very inconsistent.

I think drummond doesn't get enough credit for his efforts.

LMA definitely makes a case. He is a big reason his record setting spurs have one of the best defenses in the game.
Yeah only bigs to come to mind were Griffin and Drummond. Davis is an overrated defender who's becoming a bit too much of a jump shooter for my liking, which is understandable because his post game was never elite. Cousins :lol I can't take that scrub serious, his game is unwatchable. The James Harden of big men

ducks
03-25-2016, 10:12 PM
Better then James

baseline bum
03-25-2016, 10:27 PM
God this forum and their overreactions to every single game. :lol

SanDiegoSpursFan
03-25-2016, 10:29 PM
System player, would be lucky to average 15/6 on another team. He wouldn't be the player he is today without Pop and the Spurs grooming him.

TheGreatYacht
03-25-2016, 10:35 PM
System player, would be lucky to average 15/6 on another team. He wouldn't be the player he is today without Pop and the Spurs grooming him.
:rollin:

LongtimeSpursFan
03-25-2016, 10:38 PM
LMA deserves to be an NBA first team.

YGWHI
03-25-2016, 10:39 PM
If the best options in the league are Cousins, AD, Blake, LMA, Drummond...

And people still wonder why is too hard to find decent PF/Cs...

YGWHI
03-25-2016, 10:43 PM
System player

LMA FG% has increased considerably this season... I'd say the system helps him a lot.

Kool Bob Love
03-25-2016, 10:45 PM
System player, would be lucky to average 15/6 on another team. He wouldn't be the player he is today without Pop and the Spurs grooming him.
:wow

Kool Bob Love
03-25-2016, 10:47 PM
:rollin:
I see you player! Holding ST down. I like that. :toast:lma

r0drig0lac
03-25-2016, 10:54 PM
haha....NO!!

SAGirl
03-25-2016, 10:55 PM
Heck I take him. He's in my team, and I could care less about those other bigs. Probably none of them would be as good of a fit for us except Davis and Towns, and that is a pipedream, young franchise cornerstones for other teams... so I have to stick with LMA, bc in recent matches against them, he's owned the two of them. Them skinny kids can't guard him TBH.
:lma

K...
03-25-2016, 10:57 PM
Didn't we have this topic before but as "is LMA top 10, or top 20". There are no big men in the top five so it's a pretty good case that of he's top 10 then he's the top big. That is unless you think Raymond is a center. Lmao.

SAGirl
03-25-2016, 10:58 PM
I had LMA as the No.2 coming into this season behind Davis. Griffin was making a point for that spot before he fell apart off the court. Davis has been so Injury plagued and is very inconsistent.

I think drummond doesn't get enough credit for his efforts.

LMA definitely makes a case. He is a big reason his record setting spurs have one of the best defenses in the game.


I can't think of a big I would take over him right now.
^^^ This.

TheGreatYacht
03-25-2016, 11:09 PM
I see you player! Holding ST down. I like that. :toast:lma
Missed the game, but u know LMAlpha is getting his. The league can't stop a train when it's rolling :lma

SouthernFried
03-25-2016, 11:13 PM
I can't think of a big I would take over him right now.

lilbthebasedgod
03-25-2016, 11:18 PM
The answer is Blake Griffin. But he's not playing so meh.

I'd say cousins is better.

Keepin' it real
03-25-2016, 11:20 PM
Lmao reading "Is Aldridge the best big in the NBA?" and "Was Aldridge worth it?" on the same page.

Rob123
03-25-2016, 11:48 PM
I think his combination of offense and defense including cleaning up the glass easily makes him the best big in the game. Others come close but aren't the complete package like him.

Benoit
03-25-2016, 11:54 PM
lmao you cant be the best big in the NBA when youre #15 in Power Forwards in ESPNs Real Plus-Minus and

1- Draymond
2- Boogie Cousins
3- AD
4- Blake when healthy
5- Chris Bosh when healthy
6- Paul Millsap
7- Aldridge

weeks
03-26-2016, 12:04 AM
Gotta give him props for intangibles, for durability knock on wood, and for joining our team when a lot of glitzier fancy teams were wooing him. He's done everything we wanted and then some. There are other bigs with slightly better skills but they're lacking in mental and emotional fortitude. Only Griffin might be above him and I wonder if any other big would have fit as seamlessly

Dancelot
03-26-2016, 12:20 AM
lmao you cant be the best big in the NBA when youre #15 in Power Forwards in ESPNs Real Plus-Minus and

1- Draymond
2- Boogie Cousins
3- AD
4- Blake when healthy
5- Chris Bosh when healthy
6- Paul Millsap
7- Aldridge
Do you do anything other than post on this Spurs message board?

Snaq O'Meal
03-26-2016, 02:55 AM
Do you do anything other than post on this Spurs message board?

He may also be a regular on Naruto forums.

Kawhitstorm
03-26-2016, 03:16 AM
lmao you cant be the best big in the NBA when youre #15 in Power Forwards in ESPNs Real Plus-Minus and
1- Draymond
7- Aldridge

Draymond when he's isn't hiding behind Bogut's skirt:

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Kawhitstorm
03-26-2016, 03:55 AM
2- Boogie Cousins

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3- AD

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4- Blake when healthy

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5- Chris Bosh when healthy

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6- Paul Millsap

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7- Aldridge

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szkorhetz
03-26-2016, 04:05 AM
Probably not the best, but the most complete, with having the whole package, for sure.

DJR210
03-26-2016, 07:49 AM
System player, would be lucky to average 15/6 on another team. He wouldn't be the player he is today without Pop and the Spurs grooming him.

:lol

GSH
03-26-2016, 11:15 AM
Pretty sure he was last night. Pretty sure he wasn't at the beginning of the season.

Haven't any of you noticed that no discussion about "the best" ever reaches a conclusion? The Best All-Time. The Best Of His Era. The Best At His Position. The Best This Season. It's like inviting people to drag out the stupidest thing they can think of at the moment, to try and one-up everyone else.

Go ahead - make it the 10 Best, and still nobody will agree with half the list.

Start a thread titled, "Is LaMarcus Aldridge Playing Pretty Fucking Good At The End Of The Season?" There will still be a bag of dicks wanting to argue about it.

pgardn
03-26-2016, 11:29 AM
Scoring LMA probably has the most efficient midrange game.

Now He is getting superb looks facing the basket in his comfort range. He is able to combine this with a little posting up and O rebound put backs. He never had it this easy in Portland.

Other than this there are better rebounders, shot blockers, post players, isolation guys than he is. IMO.

Oh yes... He is in shape now. He did not come to us as well prepared physically as he should have been for such a highly paid guy on our team.

K...
03-26-2016, 11:35 AM
I see a lot of people using the "if healthy" "if smart" asterisks. That's the whole point of putting him above bigger name more statistcally robust player. You want a stat? 60 wins. That's your stat.

BSfromTX
03-26-2016, 11:50 AM
Cousins should be the best... Unfortunately he's a mental midget

SPURt
03-26-2016, 11:57 AM
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This. As of today, he's the best big playing. Now that he's found is place on the Spurs he is the most complete big in the game.

hater
03-26-2016, 12:06 PM
Isn't Brow in a wheelchair? How the fuck do posters here even mention him??? Smh

Of course LMAlpha is the best big. It's not even close

BOHOLANO#21
03-26-2016, 12:14 PM
LMA should be in the running for the NBA all NBA first team as center this season. He and Leonard pretty much our best duo that made our team break the few team records in games won.

Chinook
03-26-2016, 12:23 PM
Probably only take Towns over him at this point.

TheGreatYacht
03-26-2016, 12:27 PM
Isn't Brow in a wheelchair? How the fuck do posters here even mention him??? Smh

Of course LMAlpha is the best big. It's not even close

K...
03-26-2016, 12:29 PM
LMA should be in the running for the NBA all NBA first team as center this season. He and Leonard pretty much our best duo that made our team break the few team records in games won.

Depends. You can't deny Raymond was playing well for many more months. Depends on the voters. If it ended today I'd vote Green.

exstatic
03-26-2016, 12:45 PM
Depends. You can't deny Raymond was playing well for many more months. Depends on the voters. If it ended today I'd vote Green.

Raymond, as a center, is a bad joke and a gimmick. Hell, he's barely a PF, sizewise. I can see him getting zero support as an All NBA center.

K...
03-26-2016, 01:51 PM
Raymond, as a center, is a bad joke and a gimmick. Hell, he's barely a PF, sizewise. I can see him getting zero support as an All NBA center.

i think you are overestimating the integrity of the process. Remember he whined about the dpoy snub. That'll sway plenty of people to give him first team votes in exchange for a 2nd DPOY snub. Like LMA Raymond didn't have any big injuries. I could see a weird result with LMA and Blake splitting votes letting Raymond get in.

pgardn
03-26-2016, 02:12 PM
Probably only take Towns over him at this point.

Not playing on Minnesota.
No way LMA would be 2nd best playing for the Wolves.

exstatic
03-26-2016, 02:42 PM
i think you are overestimating the integrity of the process. Remember he whined about the dpoy snub. That'll sway plenty of people to give him first team votes in exchange for a 2nd DPOY snub. Like LMA Raymond didn't have any big injuries. I could see a weird result with LMA and Blake splitting votes letting Raymond get in.

Blake is not a center, either. I'm not sure that you understand that the vote is different from the ASG, where you only vote for frontcourt or backcourt. For Raymond to get a center spot, he would have to get more designated center votes than all but two other players. I don't see it. He will make one of the three teams as a forward.

DMC
03-26-2016, 02:55 PM
Neither Blake nor Davis are better than Aldridge. When you're as young and heralded as Davis and you struggle to make an all NBA team, you're not better than a guy who, in his 1st season on a new team, led them to their best record ever (a team with 17 or so consecutive 50 win seasons and 5 rings). Eventually greatness has to be measured by success. Davis has had none. Blake hasn't either though he broke our cookie a year ago.

Joseph Kony
03-26-2016, 03:20 PM
Aldridge has shit on every one of his counterparts at some point this season

ivanfromwestwood
03-26-2016, 03:26 PM
Cousins or Davis are the only ones you could argue. But cancer to team/injury prone so Lamarcus gets the edge to me

Spurtacular
03-26-2016, 03:35 PM
Over the last three to four weeks, LMA has been the best big. I don't think that means he should be crowned best big in the game; but that is the reality.

Tully365
03-26-2016, 07:25 PM
Anyone who would consider taking Cousins doesn't understand how basketball really works... he's one of the most immature players in the league, he takes many defensive possessions off completely, he's a team chemistry killer, a coach killer, etc., etc... Rodman, Artest, & multiple other guys were undoubtedly unconventional, had short fuses, etc., but coaches didn't have to fight with them to play hard-- they were giving 100% almost all of the time.

ivanfromwestwood
03-28-2016, 09:23 PM
What if he keeps up producing like this right on into next year. Been a long time since we had a big that averaged over 20 points a game and 10 + rebounds

Kawhitstorm
03-28-2016, 09:30 PM
What if he keeps up producing like this right on into next year. Been a long time since we had a big that averaged over 20 points a game and 10 + rebounds

No reason he couldn't since he's at the PEAK of his prime. It's not like he hasn't done it before for MULTIPLE seasons.

Tully365
03-28-2016, 09:46 PM
Lmao reading "Is Aldridge the best big in the NBA?" and "Was Aldridge worth it?" on the same page.

spurraider21
03-28-2016, 09:57 PM
Over the last three to four weeks, LMA has been the best big. I don't think that means he should be crowned best big in the game; but that is the reality.
its really weird when you make a comment that isn't completely retarded, but it's a pleasant surprise :tu

Spurtacular
03-28-2016, 10:11 PM
its really weird when you make a comment that isn't completely retarded, but it's a pleasant surprise :tu

You know I bring the goods.

DAF86
03-28-2016, 10:16 PM
lmao you cant be the best big in the NBA when youre #15 in Power Forwards in ESPNs Real Plus-Minus and

1- Draymond
2- Boogie Cousins
3- AD
4- Blake when healthy
5- Chris Bosh when healthy
6- Paul Millsap
7- Aldridge

:lol 6'6'' SG wannabe, that has to play PF 'cause he doesn't have the skill to play the position his height indicates he should play, being the best "big" in the league.

LMA is salivating at the idea of a midget guarding him in the WCF. :lol

Amuseddaysleeper
03-28-2016, 10:17 PM
Demarcus Cousins is better, but props to LMA, he's top 3 at worst this season.

Neurosis
03-28-2016, 10:29 PM
Demarcus Cousins is better, but props to LMA, he's top 3 at worst this season.

Would you trade LMA for Boogie?

Texas_Ranger
03-28-2016, 10:32 PM
on the Kings, Tim would be scoring 20 point per game... that is one terrible team and Cousins is a shitty teammate.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-28-2016, 10:39 PM
Would you trade LMA for Boogie?

I'd strongly consider it, Cousins has a higher upside for sure. Also on pace to set the NBA record for usage rate for the second year in a row:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&birth_state=&college_id=&draft_year=&is_active=&debut_yr_nba_start=&debut_yr_nba_end=&debut_yr_aba_start=&debut_yr_aba_end=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&award=&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=usg_pct&c1comp=gt&c1val=25&c2stat=g&c2comp=gt&c2val=50&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=usg_pct


He's an absolute beast, I think Cousins would do very well on the Spurs, he's got his mental issues but his talent is better than that of Aldridge in my opinion.

Neurosis
03-28-2016, 10:50 PM
I'd strongly consider it, Cousins has a higher upside for sure. Also on pace to set the NBA record for usage rate for the second year in a row:

He's an absolute beast, I think Cousins would do very well on the Spurs, he's got his mental issues but his talent is better than that of Aldridge in my opinion.

Interesting. Maybe I should watch more Cousins but I tend to think of him as much less reliable than LMA. LMA is basically automatic from 12-20 feet and he's got really good career and season % on his mid-range. I think he's more versatile and therefore more suited to the Spurs' game because he's a, "complete" player - you know that if you get the ball to Aldridge anywhere from 20ft or less he's most likely going to bury it. Cousins doesn't seem to have that same reliability and steadiness to his game.

Not sure who I'd take on draft night if I could pick either of the two - but I think I'll admit that Boogie's a better raw talent.

Down Under
03-28-2016, 10:56 PM
Cousins is the biggest headcase in the league who is never going to get it

Nathan89
03-28-2016, 11:01 PM
Draymond is a great defender. He's decent on offense if you can surround him with two of the best off ball players in the league. Just imagine how beneficial Boris would be on offense if he couldn't post up. That's Draymond on other teams.

Obstructed_View
03-28-2016, 11:06 PM
Who would you trade him for? Cousins puts up great numbers, but he's still the same guy that Ian Mahinmi almost brought to tears in summer league six fucking years ago. It's been that long and he's still not managed to mature. At ALL. He's the best big in the league that nobody with any sense wants on their team.

Aldridge was an elite scorer who came to a new team, lost a lot of his offense, and instead of pouting, as was the expectation of his critics, he just settled in and started playing team basketball along with some enormous defense, which nobody expected from him.

Frankly, fuck yes, he's the best big in the league.

Obstructed_View
03-28-2016, 11:08 PM
on the Kings, Tim would be scoring 20 point per game... that is one terrible team and Cousins is a shitty teammate.

He's a shitty teammate, he's a shitty opponent, he's a shitty player to coach, and he's a shitty member of an organization. From a basketball standpoint, he's a headache for literally everyone he comes into contact with. That's worse than cancer. That's fucking smallpox.

Dro210
03-28-2016, 11:12 PM
Cousins is easily the best talent. The guys a fucking beast... but LaMarcus is the guy you'd rather have just because you can trust him. Davis wasn't Davis this year. Blake's been hurt. Gaymond's actually a scrub. Towns, Whiteside, Milsap, and Jokic are all pretty good, but I'd take LaMarcus over all of 'em easy. Gasol, Duncan, Dirk are still beasts, but too old. Drummond/Jordan have no game outside of 5'... LaMarcus doesn't really even have much competition right now. That's crazy.

AFMadison
03-29-2016, 12:18 AM
Anyone who would consider taking Cousins doesn't understand how basketball really works... he's one of the most immature players in the league, he takes many defensive possessions off completely, he's a team chemistry killer, a coach killer, etc., etc... Rodman, Artest, & multiple other guys were undoubtedly unconventional, had short fuses, etc., but coaches didn't have to fight with them to play hard-- they were giving 100% almost all of the time.
I've been preaching this ever since the dude has been in this league. You don't want these guys on your team. Same reason imo the Spurs got rid of Jamychal Green. Despite these guys who have these off the camera problems, people on this forum would still take anti-spur players. Off the court behavior, persona is just as important as the numbers a guy can produce on court.

Das Texan
03-29-2016, 12:21 AM
If someone can ever get in Boogie's head and convince him how to be a great member of a team, holy fuck will he and that team dominate.

daslicer
03-29-2016, 12:23 AM
Cousins is easily the best talent. The guys a fucking beast... but LaMarcus is the guy you'd rather have just because you can trust him. Davis wasn't Davis this year. Blake's been hurt. Gaymond's actually a scrub. Towns, Whiteside, Milsap, and Jokic are all pretty good, but I'd take LaMarcus over all of 'em easy. Gasol, Duncan, Dirk are still beasts, but too old. Drummond/Jordan have no game outside of 5'... LaMarcus doesn't really even have much competition right now. That's crazy.

Just shows you the bigs in the league are pretty bad. The 90's to me was the golden age for the center position and the '00s was the golden age for the PF position. Right now both positions are weak.

TheGreatYacht
03-29-2016, 04:42 AM
Boogie is a high usage, low FG%, flopper, no defense playing, full blown cancer.

He was a beast when his career was getting started but now he's just KLove.

Spurtacular
03-29-2016, 02:06 PM
its really weird when you make a comment that isn't completely retarded, but it's a pleasant surprise :tu

This coming from the "retard" who says Bellinelli is as good as Larry Legend.

spurraider21
03-29-2016, 02:10 PM
This coming from the "retard" who says Bellinelli is as good as Larry Legend.
:lmao you are beyond retarded

.G.
03-29-2016, 02:15 PM
He's been bullying dem niggaz like a motherfucker.

SpursFan86
03-29-2016, 02:33 PM
Who would you trade him for?

Anthony Davis...some people have overrated him by acting like he's already a MVP or DPOTY-caliber player, but he's still better than LMA (not to mention he only just turned 23).

Karl-Anthony Towns as well, although that has everything to do with Towns's age/potential. He's not better than LMA currently.

Millsap probably has an argument too. They're pretty close.

Spurtacular
03-29-2016, 02:40 PM
:lmao you are beyond retarded

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--YcHWd6ol--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/bhk1bkkw28raqm74c70r.jpg

Baseline21
03-29-2016, 03:49 PM
Draymond averages like 12pts a game. LMAO....HIS TRIPLE DOUBLES ARE SO OVERARED. It's rondo triple doubles. Lmao

Benoit
03-29-2016, 03:53 PM
Draymond averages like 12pts a game. LMAO....HIS TRIPLE DOUBLES ARE SO OVERARED. It's rondo triple doubles. Lmao

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/WINS/position/6 (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/WINS/position/6)

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/6


(http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/6)

Benoit
03-29-2016, 03:54 PM
lmao no other big is close to Dray in impact

look at the numbers

Baseline21
03-29-2016, 03:58 PM
Dray hasn't won without steph. Let's face it. LMA won games on his own while their team is resting. If u told me steph and Klay had games off I would guranteed a loss for damn sure.

Baseline21
03-29-2016, 04:00 PM
That's why Kerr can't rest them because once u rest steph they lose.

TD 21
03-29-2016, 04:30 PM
No. Davis, Griffin and Cousins, are all better and Towns will be, but no one is playing better at the moment.

His volume/efficiency, this season, is impressive, considering he doesn't get to the line much and hasn't made a three all season. Prime Parker was the rare player who fit that description.

Obstructed_View
03-29-2016, 08:45 PM
lmao no other big is close to Dray in impact

look at the numbers

When the numbers you provide have Paul Milsap and Kevin Love as #2 and #3, color me skeptical that they mean what you seem to think they mean. :lol

Benoit
03-31-2016, 02:31 AM
Dray just became the 1st player in NBA history to hit 1000pt/500RB/500AST/100STL/100BLK in a season

Best PF in the game and most versatile player the league has ever seen

Joseph Kony
03-31-2016, 02:37 AM
:lol career 43% shooter averaging a career high 13.8 points a game being the best big

Arcadian
03-31-2016, 02:58 AM
Dray just became the 1st player in NBA history to hit 1000pt/500RB/500AST/100STL/100BLK in a season

Best PF in the game and most versatile player the league has ever seen

Prime Garnett was more versatile. But damn, those stats are impressive.

Kawhitstorm
03-31-2016, 03:14 AM
Dray just became the 1st player in NBA history to hit 1000pt/500RB/500AST/100STL/100BLK in a season

Best PF in the game and most versatile player the league has ever seen

You mean the guy who admitted to chasing triple doubles:lmao

Kawhitstorm
03-31-2016, 03:19 AM
Prime Garnett was more versatile. But damn, those stats are impressive.

KG had 495 assists while playing w/ bums & dropping 23 per on 50% shooting in '02-'03. He also ripped down 1000+ rebs & ACTUALLY averaged a double-double.

cjw
03-31-2016, 11:51 AM
KG had 495 assists while playing w/ bums & dropping 23 per on 50% shooting in '02-'03. He also ripped down 1000+ rebs & ACTUALLY averaged a double-double.

Lebron routinely totals 200+ blocks plus steals per year, as does Kawhi now. Lebron matches the scoring/rebounding/assists, and Kawhi scoring/rebounding (lags behind in assists, but isn't running the point). Russ will be there too. Even Danny puts together those types of block/steal numbers on the defensive end on a minutes-adjusted basis. Pace matters too.

That said, Draymond is the first player ever to average that combination of those five specific stats per 36 minutes. Stat padding or not, it's still impressive.

Kawhitstorm
03-31-2016, 02:04 PM
Lebron routinely totals 200+ blocks plus steals per year, as does Kawhi now. Lebron matches the scoring/rebounding/assists, and Kawhi scoring/rebounding (lags behind in assists, but isn't running the point). Russ will be there too. Even Danny puts together those types of block/steal numbers on the defensive end on a minutes-adjusted basis. Pace matters too.

That said, Draymond is the first player ever to average that combination of those five specific stats per 36 minutes. Stat padding or not, it's still impressive.

If you want to create arbitrary milestones (500 vs. 495) then KG is the only player EVER w/ 1800pt/1100RB/450AST/110STL/120BLK in a season & no one has EVER come close to matching it unlike Draymond's arbitrary milestone achieved while playing w/ two of the best shooters ever. Draymond also did it while not averaging a double-double nor having to be BOTH a scorer/distributor.
Swap Diaw w/ KG on the 2005-06 Suns & he would have blown away Draymond's arbitrary milestone.:wakeup

daslicer
03-31-2016, 02:10 PM
If you want to create arbitrary milestones (500 vs. 495) then KG is the only player EVER w/ 1800pt/1100RB/450AST/110STL/120BLK in a season & no one has EVER come close to matching it unlike Draymond's arbitrary milestone achieved while playing w/ two of the best shooters ever. Draymond also did it while not averaging a double-double nor having to be BOTH a scorer/distributor.

Pretty much why he's a glorified role player in my eyes.

Kawhitstorm
03-31-2016, 02:14 PM
Pretty much why he's a glorified role player in my eyes.

He is also NOT getting doubled nor breaking down the defense. For the most part, he stands at the top of the key with no soul near him when Curry gets doubled & gets credited for an assist against a scrambling defense playing 4-on-5. Teams also don't stop him in transition until he get to the rim b/c they are worried about Curry/Klay on the wings.

We all saw what he was made of when Kawhi was breathing down his neck thus Curry didn't even bother running PnRs with him in the 4th quarter.:lol

Mikeanaro
03-31-2016, 02:56 PM
He is, and looks like Yogi the bear.

daslicer
03-31-2016, 03:04 PM
We all saw what he was made of when Kawhi was breathing down his neck thus Curry didn't even bother running PnRs with him in the 4th quarter.:lol

Even the points he scored in that game was off of broke plays, and a few garbage buckets.

cjw
03-31-2016, 03:06 PM
If you want to create arbitrary milestones (500 vs. 495) then KG is the only player EVER w/ 1800pt/1100RB/450AST/110STL/120BLK in a season & no one has EVER come close to matching it unlike Draymond's arbitrary milestone achieved while playing w/ two of the best shooters ever. Draymond also did it while not averaging a double-double nor having to be BOTH a scorer/distributor.
Swap Diaw w/ KG on the 2005-06 Suns & he would have blown away Draymond's arbitrary milestone.:wakeup

Agreed - these types of milestones are a baseball relic (3,000 hits, 500 HR, 300 wins, etc.) and single season milestones in basketball that people are about anyway are averages and not totals. Per 36 or per possession metrics are more telling anyway. Only reason Green's get mentioned is because it's the big 5 stat categories and they're round numbers.

How about this arbitrary stat that doesn't rely solely on absolute counting stats? Only players with TS% over 60%, 30 points scored per 100 possessions, defensive rating under 100, and 10+ win shares. Combination of efficiency, usage (scoring) and defense:

Kareem, Admiral (x2), Lebron, Dwight, Kemp, Manu (x2), Yao. Notice how only three of those guys aren't traditional bigs (two Spurs) and the only guys on that list twice are Spurs.

Baseline21
03-31-2016, 06:13 PM
Dray just became the 1st player in NBA history to hit 1000pt/500RB/500AST/100STL/100BLK in a season

Best PF in the game and most versatile player the league has ever seen
How many illegal screens he gets away with on that stat sheet and techs he gets away with everytime he misses his shot and argues to refs nonstop. Also he's the only player in NBA history that the coach tells him stop shooting the ball even when he only takes 10shots. Then, flips out in locker room because coach Kerr was right on telling him to stop shooting the ball because he's bricking the shots but you on the other hand say he's the best pf in the game. LMAO... If your coach tells u to stop shooting when u only take 10 shots that pretty much tells u he's a younger Joakim Noah. Lmao...������������

Benoit
04-04-2016, 05:44 PM
1st player in nba history to have over +1000 plus-minus

Highest +/- in NBA history in 1 season LMFAO

716817287341170691

Sec24Row7
04-04-2016, 06:57 PM
Lebron James 08-09 is the most impressive on that list... because the average MoV of the Cavs was was 8.9 PPG.

All the rest are a function of the incredible team that those players were on.

If you tell me that you would pick Raymond to start a team with over an equal age KG or Lebron I really can't help you.

Raymond is a great player, but you put him on the 76'ers and they still don't make the playoffs.

You put Lebron or KG on the 76'ers and they are a Eastern Conference finals playoff team.

Seventyniner
04-04-2016, 07:12 PM
I think LMA's offensive rebounding will be almost as important against GS as his ability to score. He's the ideal player to punish small lineups when he's on.

dabom
04-04-2016, 07:53 PM
This thread gonna be hilarious to bump when he goes MIA in this year's playoffs

Jazz are MIA from the playoffs every year brah. :lmao

DMC
04-04-2016, 07:55 PM
This thread gonna be hilarious to bump when he goes MIA in this year's playoffs

This alt doesn't get much play. Might as well have a Timberwolves alt.

cutewizard
04-05-2016, 10:06 AM
LMA is the best 4 right now!

period!

and he will prove it in the playoffs, book it!

he can be Finals MVP!

hater
04-05-2016, 12:25 PM
With Marc Gasol, Unibrow and Steven Adams down with injuries, the answer to OP is Yes. Absolutely

TheGreatYacht
04-05-2016, 03:38 PM
It's not close, either

NameLess Scrub
04-05-2016, 03:54 PM
Lebron James 08-09 is the most impressive on that list... because the average MoV of the Cavs was was 8.9 PPG.

All the rest are a function of the incredible team that those players were on.

If you tell me that you would pick Raymond to start a team with over an equal age KG or Lebron I really can't help you.

Raymond is a great player, but you put him on the 76'ers and they still don't make the playoffs.

You put Lebron or KG on the 76'ers and they are a Eastern Conference finals playoff team.


How great would he look if they started calling more hacks and illegal screens? Or if Curry wasn't trapped?

spurraider21
04-05-2016, 10:41 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/56a66fa44dbc67200fb8dffa84eabe32.png

Mnky
04-05-2016, 11:08 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/56a66fa44dbc67200fb8dffa84eabe32.png

:lol

TheGreatYacht
04-05-2016, 11:12 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/56a66fa44dbc67200fb8dffa84eabe32.png
:lmao

Benoit
04-07-2016, 11:31 PM
39 points on 47 shots in 3 games vs the Dubs this season :rollin:rollin:rollin

"best big in the NBA" only against all the bad teams at home

Benoit
04-07-2016, 11:32 PM
1st player in nba history to have over +1000 plus-minus

Highest +/- in NBA history in 1 season LMFAO

716817287341170691

Mnky
04-07-2016, 11:39 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HSdSUwD.gif

HarlemHeat37
05-12-2016, 09:10 PM
OMG:lmao:lmao:lmao

tholdren
05-12-2016, 09:11 PM
OMG:lmao:lmao:lmao
Almost as gay as your avatar

Big Dog
05-12-2016, 09:12 PM
:lmao..