Kevin Martin

[Benoit]

This guy is the secret weapon??? 1-9 against a team that barely plays defense hahhahaha

I didnt even know he was still in the league until I saw him against us the other night and the stupid announcers were talking about him like hes still worth anything lmao

[100%duncan]

yawn

[elemento]

lol Kobe fan banned @ realgm :lol

[spursistan]

have to agree with the troll, tbh..Another "broken shot" nigga was the last thing we needed on the team.

[K...]

el no, Boris is our secret weapon but TBH that is not looking good. Have you seen Kawehi lately? Almost as good as Curry!

[Kawhitstorm]

This guy is the secret weapon??? 1-9 against a team that barely plays defense hahhahaha

Better than Wardell's 1-11:lmao

[coachmac87]

So OP really watches Spurs games??

[TheGreatYacht]

Off night, IMO.

[Benoit]

So OP really watches Spurs games??

Its called a box score you ever heard of it? lmao

[coachmac87]

Its called a box score you ever heard of it? lmao

Oh so you base your points and analysis off of box scores?

[Benoit]

Oh so you base your points and analysis off of box scores?

When the player is only good at scoring then ya lmao its not like he does anything else

[coachmac87]

When the player is only good at scoring then ya lmao its not like he does anything else


Oh so when Steph went 1-12 the box score tells everything you need to know...

[DeRozan m8]

OP, keep riding that bandwagon, champ

[Budkin]

lol Kobe fan banned @ realgm :lol

[SpurPadre]

fart

[kxs783kms]

Oh so when Steph went 1-12 the box score tells everything you need to know...

[703 Spurz]

Seek out pussy for a change. Get some fresh air and step away from the laptop.

[z0sa]

The Spurs players on the floor missed some opportunities, sure. But this isn't really the greatest situation for pointing fingers, now, is it? Especially considering most players need at least a training camp to earn regular PT under Pop.

[Snaq O'Meal]

So OP really watches Spurs games??

He mostly faps to Kobe highlights TBH.

[LakerHater]

I think pickin up Beasley woulda been a better gamble!

[spurs10]

Seek out pussy for a change. Get some fresh air and step away from the laptop. :lol Pretty obvious that's not his thing!

[spurraider21]

do people actually think op is a warriors fan? :lol

[DDUBB1770]

When the player is only good at scoring then ya lmao its not like he does anything else

Just another fat guy saying fat guy things... Jesus fucking Popsicle

[urunobili]

Butler not only shot better but his D was stellar each time he hit the floor. Always with a block or a steal to energize his teammates :-)

[ceperez]

Butler not only shot better but his D was stellar each time he hit the floor. Always with a block or a steal to energize his teammates :-)

Sigh! PATFO the only one to blame on this. Martin's performance was unacceptable.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Laker fan with a smack for the 15th man :lol

[Leetonidas]

considering you said you didnt know he was in the league about 20 times before the Spurs signed him I find your op to be untrustworthy and an act of shitty trolling tbh.

[SpursBig3s]

Why does everybody reply to this guy? We all know he's a troll... Amazing y'all still respond to him

[Leetonidas]

the entire forum is trolls faggot

[sexinthatsx]

When the player is only good at scoring then ya lmao its not like he does anything else

You wouldn't know based off the box score that Draymond Green almost lost the game for the Warriors against the 76ers but hey Draymond Green almost had a triple double, so he must've been damn good that game!

[Spur|n|Austin]

do people actually think op is a warriors fan? :lol

:lol yeah I'm sure some do, smarter posters know he's a Lakers fan.

[cd98]

Hey I was all for signing Martin. I'll admit his offense has been from meh to bad. I'm sure some of that is adjusting to a new team and getting comfortable with when he should shoot vs pass. His defense has been horrendous. I don't know that Butler would be any better, but so far Martin has disappointed.

[Obstructed_View]

:lol bitter Kobe fan.

[Leetonidas]

op is the Asian dude who changed jerseys midgame:lol

[spursistan]

9 games: he is shooting 34%/41% from 3pt (on 2 attempts)..

[skulls138]

Its called a box score you ever heard of it? lmaoI have no doubt youre pouring over Spurs box scores, and posting on Spurs sites. Worried some?

[SAGirl]

Sigh! PATFO the only one to blame on this. Martin's performance was unacceptable.
+1
Sigh!
I didn't even bring this up but Martin, 1-9 shooting, was hidden on Roberson, played against the bench, and didn't give a single assist or rebound. He was better defensively in this game. I do believe he's put in effort, but why ppl give this guy a pass and hate on Kyle is just probably agenda driven.

[SAGirl]

Why does everybody reply to this guy? We all know he's a troll... Amazing y'all still respond to him
I know he's a troll and don't really care to read anything he posts. That said Martin was a disappointment for a guy who is a scorer.
Hopefully he catches a groove. I agree this game was not representative of the looks he'll normally get, but that applies to everyone else but a couple of guys in that game. If we are hoping for some offense from him, he has to be better.

[Ice009]

Butler not only shot better but his D was stellar each time he hit the floor. Always with a block or a steal to energize his teammates :-)

I still don't understand why Butler was cut instead of Bonner. I'm not happy at all with that move. Nothing against Martin, as this is a thread about him, but I just can't ever support Butler being cut over Bonner. Butler won me over big time with every little intangible that he bought both on and off the court, and the Spurs still cut him :(.

[SAGirl]

I still don't understand why Butler was cut instead of Bonner. I'm not happy at all with that move. Nothing against Martin, as this is a thread about him, but I just can't ever support Butler being cut over Bonner. Butler won me over big time with every little intangible that he bought both on and off the court, and the Spurs still cut him :(.
This is just speculation but he was at 30% from 3. I believe they wanted a more reliable shooter for a specific role. Hopefully Martin delivers for us when it matters, still remains to be seen but he's not helping his case.

[Ice009]

This is just speculation but he was at 30% from 3. I believe they wanted a more reliable shooter for a specific role. Hopefully Martin delivers for us when it matters, still remains to be seen but he's not helping his case.

Yeah, most likely was let go due to his shooting as I think they wanted him in as a 3 point specialist. Unfortunately, it didn't seem like he even focused on that, it seemed to me that he tried to bring a much more all around game and the Spurs didn't want that. It appears they were looking for more shooters. Again though, why keep Bonner? It's not like he brings anything more to the table than Butler did.

[SAGirl]

Yeah, most likely was let go due to his shooting as I think they wanted him in as a 3 point specialist. Unfortunately, it didn't seem like he even focused on that, it seemed to me that he tried to bring a much more all around game and the Spurs didn't want that. It appears they were looking for more shooters. Again though, why keep Bonner? It's not like he brings anything more to the table than Butler did.
Yes, that one is Pop completely. Won't even attempt an answer.By all accounts Butler was a great presence in th locker room as well. Bonner is a morale/companion/mascot? Doesn't make sense for bball reasons.

[Ice009]

Butler may have hurt himself by bringing more of an all around game rather than just focusing on 3 point shooting only. Really horrible of them to cut him for that when Bonner is still on the team. They could have even cut Simmons for him if they didn't think J. Simms would be of any use in the playoffs. I'm kind of glad Simmons wasn't cut though as I still really like him. I hope Simmons can make it and improve on all his flaws. I liked what he did last game against OKC and it gives me a bit of hope for his future and makes me feel that he still has upside.

[Ditty]

I thought Martin was pretty solid outside of the last two games imo. Tried too hard against the Thunder, and didn't have a great shooting night against Memphis. His defense isn't great, but it has been serviceable so far. Like his ability to get to the free throw line on cheap fouls. Needs to continue to find his role with more minutes until the end of the season, but think he will be fine in a 15 minute a game role in the playoffs in certain matchups. Not afraid too shot, which I also like about him.

[ceperez]

I thought Martin was pretty solid outside of the last two games imo. Tried too hard against the Thunder, and didn't have a great shooting night against Memphis. His defense isn't great, but it has been serviceable so far. Like his ability to get to the free throw line on cheap fouls. Needs to continue to find his role with more minutes until the end of the season, but think he will be fine in a 15 minute a game role in the playoffs in certain matchups. Not afraid too shot, which I also like about him.

My concern is he didn't step up against the the Thunder. But I do agree with you, unlike Green and Anderson, he's unafraid to take the 3.

His defense though is also a concern, however I do like that he keeps moving in offense.

[exstatic]

Martin is shooting 41% from 3 land. Just like with Danny, he's almost never going to shoot 2-5 for a game. Shooters tend to be streaky, some more than others.

[tholdren]

Martin has the ability to score in volume, but I'd sa needs him to play 25 mpg, then their screwed. Give him 12 to 15mpg based on his scoring or spurs scoring and call it a day. He's been no worse than green or patty

[SpursforSix]

Martin is shooting 41% from 3 land. Just like with Danny, he's almost never going to shoot 2-5 for a game. Shooters tend to be streaky, some more than others.

Where are you getting the 41%? Is that for a certain time period?

[MultiTroll]

Exstatic Martin is shooting 41% from 3 land. Just like with Danny, he's almost never going to shoot 2-5 for a game. Shooters tend to be streaky, some more than others.


Where are you getting the 41%? Is that for a certain time period?
Ya. Last three years with TWolves larger sample size:
.387
.393
.369

Other then 2013 with OKC at .426, he hasn't sniffed 40% since 2008-09 with Sacramento.
His 2 point shooting is even worse. Since he doesn't really pass, rebound or play much D I don't see what the f the purpose of this pickup was.

Experiment over.

[Kawhitstorm]

Other then 2013 with OKC at .426, he hasn't sniffed 40% since 2008-09 with Sacramento.
His 2 point shooting is even worse. Since he doesn't really pass, rebound or play much D I don't see what the f the purpose of this pickup was.

Experiment over.

He's a Manu insurance, if Manu is healthy then he won't play much. In any case, he's getting the shots he wants but he didn't play much for the Wolves after December so needs time/reps to knock off the rust.

He looked fine against Miami when his shot was falling, it's not like he was out there jacking up bad shots like Gary Neal.:lol

[MultiTroll]

Johny Simmons over KMartin for backup Manu.
Knocking down threes at 44%. Dueces at .505. Stealing, rockin the rim, Playing D.
Ya ya he still has the occasional turnover. Def getting better. Been put in some 4 on 5 situations lately with BonBon on the floor.

[DeRozan m8]

Kmart has been underwhelming tbh

And I wasn't expecting a whole lot to start with...

[Kawhitstorm]

Kmart has been underwhelming tbh

And I wasn't expecting a whole lot to start with...

Joe Johnson hasn't been any better this past week despite having played starters minutes all season long & demanding a starting job/salary.

[SpursforSix]

Joe Johnson hasn't been any better this past week despite having played starters minutes all season long & demanding a starting job/salary.

and lol at Wes Mathews this season. just terrible

$16.4 million for .389

[spursistan]

Shooting 32% from the field with Spurs ..ugh..Hard to see him ready to play a Belinelli role in the playoffs...that's the worst thing about volume shooters, he is unreliable as plug-in solution for instance offense which Belli excelled at..

Spurs are going to matchup with Warriors juggernaut with only one 40% shooter from 3PT (Kawhi)..needless to say, good luck with that..

[Kawhitstorm]

Spurs are going to matchup with Warriors juggernaut with only one 40% shooter from 3PT (Kawhi)..needless to say, good luck with that..

I think the only winning strategy to beat the Worriers has been to run them off the 3 pt line & concede layups w/ late challenges. Minimizing the 3 pt attempts will slow down the pace & prevent long rebounds; only take 3s when it's the best option ala the 90s.

[SAGirl]

Ya. Last three years with TWolves larger sample size:
.387
.393
.369

Other then 2013 with OKC at .426, he hasn't sniffed 40% since 2008-09 with Sacramento.
His 2 point shooting is even worse. Since he doesn't really pass, rebound or play much D I don't see what the f the purpose of this pickup was.

Experiment over.
I really haven't liked him and his attempts to draw fouls are really bad shots, which is why he's shooting worse from 2 than from 3. I think if you removed his minutes in the Charlotte game in the 2nd half and went with Anderson we don't lose that game. He's not even a better player than A. Miller. Heck if Simmons wasn't a foul machine with a threat to TO the ball when playing outside garbage time I'd take him too.

I still see him as I did in the beginning, very situational player and you give up so much in defense, rebounding, hustle plays that are really something that get the Spurs rolling at times, BBIQ, passing etc if you give him Anderson's minutes that Pop never really commited to bench Anderson and Anderson has been playing against starters and producing more, + he has not been passing up open corner 3s which are his spot.

Hopefully he makes a few shots for us, I am not wishing him ill or anything, Anderson is just a better overall player.

He can maybe sub in for Danny a few minutes if Danny is not hitting shots and we can spare to hide him a few minutes. He might be more Danny/Manu insurance than Anderson's.

[ceperez]

I really haven't liked him and his attempts to draw fouls are really bad shots, which is why he's shooting worse from 2 than from 3. I think if you removed his minutes in the Charlotte game in the 2nd half and went with Anderson we don't lose that game. He's not even a better player than A. Miller. Heck if Simmons wasn't a foul machine with a threat to TO the ball when playing outside garbage time I'd take him too.

I still see him as I did in the beginning, very situational player and you give up so much in defense, rebounding, hustle plays that are really something that get the Spurs rolling at times, BBIQ, passing etc if you give him Anderson's minutes that Pop never really commited to bench Anderson and Anderson has been playing against starters and producing more, + he has not been passing up open corner 3s which are his spot.

Hopefully he makes a few shots for us, I am not wishing him ill or anything, Anderson is just a better overall player.

He can maybe sub in for Danny a few minutes if Danny is not hitting shots and we can spare to hide him a few minutes. He might be more Danny/Manu insurance than Anderson's.

In the last game ( against Grizzlies ), he barely got to touch the ball in offense. Nobody other than Miller has passed him the ball.

I guess Martin has the same job as Bonner. If he ever gets the ball, his job is to chuck it.

[SAGirl]

In the last game ( against Grizzlies ), he barely got to touch the ball in offense. Nobody other than Miller has passed him the ball.

I guess Martin has the same job as Bonner. If he ever gets the ball, his job is to chuck it.

Shoot the 3 basically. Didn't get open shots from 3'

He had a few plays coming off screens, but he travelled on one and then he just decided to pass to the big when coming off a screen in another. He airballed a jump shot. He might have been discouraged from taking the bad contested runners unless it's an end of the shot clock situation.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

People need to realize that among sharp experts Kevin Martin for some time now has been seen as one of the worst players in the league.

Even his shooting has major weaknesses with his release if guarded in a certain way.

[cd98]

I will say this about Martin, the Griz stuck good defenders on him and didn't give him an inch. That freed up other players.

[MaNu4Tres]

Excluding layups, I don't think Ive seen an attempt from K-Martin inside the 3 point line where he isn't throwing up a one handed leaner jumper.

[cd98]

Excluding layups, I don't think Ive seen an attempt from K-Martin inside the 3 point line where he isn't throwing up a one handed leaner jumper.

Thats true and a little scary but he's also gotten to the line based on that move.

[ceperez]

Shoot the 3 basically. Didn't get open shots from 3'

He had a few plays coming off screens, but he travelled on one and then he just decided to pass to the big when coming off a screen in another. He airballed a jump shot. He might have been discouraged from taking the bad contested runners unless it's an end of the shot clock situation.

He seems to have the same role as Green in offense. Hang around in the 3 point line and wait for a pass. No passes ever came... so therefore, no points.