Joey Crawford: 6 could have been replayed if the Spurs scored after Allen 3.

[spursistan]

"So we go over and what happens, Duncan came in the game and he's not allowed to come in the game. So he came in the game, thank God he didn't score a bucket. That would have been awful."Actually, it may not have mattered if it was Duncan. Any Spurs player could have scored and the Heat would have been able to protest that the Spurs had an illegal player in the game — a protest that would have had a good chance of being upheld and forced the game to be replayed from that point.
But after Duncan replaced Boris Diaw and inbounded the ball on San Antonio's final possession, Tony Parker missed a jumper that would have given the Spurs the championship. The Heat pulled it out in overtime and won Game 7 to take the title..

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8b844e8598944a9e996c0a1998ab0b5a/allens-game-6-3-cost-refs-money-nearly-caused-nba-headache

Because Duncan checked in with no official interruption of game after Allen 3..It would have added more legend to this all-timer.. a potentially 8-game Finals series :lol..

[dabom]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8b844e8598944a9e996c0a1998ab0b5a/allens-game-6-3-cost-refs-money-nearly-caused-nba-headache

Because Duncan checked in with no official interruption of game after Allen 3..It would have added more legend to this all-timer.. a potentially 8-game Finals series :lol..

I think he means the final play has to happen again. Not another game.

[Silver&Black]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258689&p=8499515#post8499515

[spursistan]

I think he means the final play has to happen again. Not another game.
well, yeah.but what if both teams sleep on it and the Heat only figure this shit the morning after :lol

[dabom]

well, yeah.but what if both teams sleep on it the Heat only figure this shit the morning after :lol

Spurs say too bad. Shit like that happens all the time. Bad calls or bad no calls don't change the outcome of the game the day after. So I'm guessing me means right after the play. :lol

[soxxx]

No interruption, sure, despite them having to go to instant replay to see if Allens foot was behind the line despite a ref standing 6 feet away.

It probably is the most legendary NBA Finals, fortunately when they show replays of it decades from now, they will have to include the final chapter, which was the Spurs coming back the next year and proving who the better team/organization is.

[Spurs9]

Spurs blew up the heat team the next year so its all good tbh

[spursparker9]

Fuck Ray Ray

[spursparker9]

Spurs blew up the heat team the next year so its all good tbh

Yeah, with the way Cavs are going. I highly doubt Lebron will ever win another title.

[lefty20]

Spurs blew up the heat team the next year so its all good tbh

This. Sure, they crushed out hearts in '13 but we replied in kind by yanking their soul and tossing it straight to hell(cleveland).

[cjw]

No interruption, sure, despite them having to go to instant replay to see if Allens foot was behind the line despite a ref standing 6 feet away.

It probably is the most legendary NBA Finals, fortunately when they show replays of it decades from now, they will have to include the final chapter, which was the Spurs coming back the next year and proving who the better team/organization is.

By no interruption, he meant can't sub after a made basket.

On a semi related topic, subs after the second made FT in college need to be cut out (unless the FT shooter is hurt) - abused by coaches to set up full court press.

[baseline bum]

Spurs blew up the heat team the next year so its all good tbh

True. I would never trade the 2014 title for the 2013 one.

[baseline bum]

On a semi related topic, subs after the second made FT in college need to be cut out (unless the FT shooter is hurt) - abused by coaches to set up full court press.

That's one of the many things I really hate about college ball, which I find borderline unwatchable. The one and one is the thing I hate most though.

[Uriel]

6 could have been replayed after that?

Well, then why wasn't it replayed after Bosh mauled Ginobili to the floor after no whiste was blown? Or after Fisher fouled Barry in Game 5 of the 2008 WCF? Or after the refs, led by Joey Crawford himself, singlehandedly allowed OKC to win Game 6 in 2012? Where are the replays in those?

[SASdynasty!]

6 could have been replayed after that?

Well, then why wasn't it replayed after Bosh mauled Ginobili to the floor after no whiste was blown? Or after Fisher fouled Barry in Game 5 of the 2008 WCF? Or after the refs, led by Joey Crawford himself, singlehandedly allowed OKC to win Game 6 in 2012? Where are the replays in those?
It's crazy how Ray raking Ginobili's arm on the last play of OT gets forgotten. Had it not been for all of the other drama, that would have went down as one of the worst no-calls in playoff history.

[kobyz]

I still can lose full nights of sleep thinking on that game, can't let go, can't accept missing title and final MVP trophy for Duncan for the most naive reason of all time, not foul up by 3!!! Hard to live with this, i want somtimes that someone just kill me...

[Kawhitstorm]

It's crazy how Ray raking:lol Ginobili's arm on the last play of OT gets forgotten. Had it not been for all of the other drama, that would have went down as one of the worst no-calls in playoff history.

Considering how disastrous Turnobili was in Gm 6, he would have split the FTs & fouled Ray Allen on the other end with no time remaining.:lol

[VBM]

True. I would never trade the 2014 title for the 2013 one.

Duncan would have had a 4th Finals MVP if they won in 2013. I'd rather have that.

[jag]

It Still Hurts, tbh

[exstatic]

Duncan would have had a 4th Finals MVP if they won in 2013. I'd rather have that.

He'd likely be retired. We'd also likely NOT have won in 2014. It was the bitter dregs of 2013 that drove the team to the heights of perfection in 2014. Miami would have probably turned the tables on US.

[apalisoc_9]

I still can lose full nights of sleep thinking on that game, can't let go, can't accept missing title and final MVP trophy for Duncan for the most naive reason of all time, not foul up by 3!!! Hard to live with this, i want somtimes that someone just kill me...

Not fouling is the right decision.

[Spurtacular]

There's no way the ending would be replayed.

Pop was so stupid to keep taking out his best rebounder and team leader.

[cjw]

That's one of the many things I really hate about college ball, which I find borderline unwatchable. The one and one is the thing I hate most though.

It's gotten better in the past few years, but teams getting into foul trouble early in a half makes the game a FT shooting contest. Quarters / 2 minute rule in the NBA keep this from getting too egregious. Maybe they're testing this out with quarters in the women's game.

5 foul disqualifications are also tough when you have inconsistent officiating. You think the NBA is bad, go watch college.

[baseline bum]

Duncan would have had a 4th Finals MVP if they won in 2013. I'd rather have that.

I wouldn't, the 2014 Spurs are one of the most unique teams I have ever seen. Winning a title without a legit star player is almost unheard of, but winning a title in such dominating fashion with nothing but role players having to build something so much greater than the sum of the parts was amazing to see. You couldn't just dump it to Duncan on the block like in 2003 or iso Kawhi at the key like now, all the superstar talent was either too old (Duncan, Ginobili), too young (Leonard), or too injured (Parker). The only title that even comes close to how much I enjoyed 2014 was 1999, thanks to me witnessing 15 years of soul crushing losses before it. And even then, I think I enjoyed 2014 even more. The 2013 team really rode Parker and he was unbelievable, but he never had another year like that in him again. He was breaking down in 2014 and yet Pop spun that hardship into a team that was worlds better. It wasn't like the Spurs were just killing Miami. They were running OKC out of the AT&T Center with crazy ass blowouts. They walked into Portland and destroyed them in their building. The Dallas series was ugly for a while, but damn did the team respond in Game 7. I don't think any of that happens if Ray Allen doesn't hit that three and just stomp on the Spurs hearts. I mean losing that game really hurt as a fan because it would have been incredible to beat a 66 win Heat team that had won 29 straight, and I was always somewhat jealous of Dallas and Detroit fans getting to experience a title as a huge underdog. And that would have been one of the alltime great upsets. But instead it was something that made the team so much better, so much hungrier. For a title this season to even come close to matching how much 2014 meant the Warriors would probably have to win 75 games and Duncan would probably have to hit a three in OT of Game 7 in Oracle. Teams like the 2014 Spurs aren't supposed to win, and instead they were a record breaking great team.

[baseline bum]

It's gotten better in the past few years, but teams getting into foul trouble early in a half makes the game a FT shooting contest. Quarters / 2 minute rule in the NBA keep this from getting too egregious. Maybe they're testing this out with quarters in the women's game.

5 foul disqualifications are also tough when you have inconsistent officiating. You think the NBA is bad, go watch college.

I don't care about games turning into FT shooting contests. I think it doesn't make sense to punish a team for being fouled by only guaranteeing one FTA when the other team is in the first phase of the penalty. Oh well, it's better than when they had the 45 second clock, or even worse, when Villanova was just holding the ball against Georgetown. But it's still shitty basketball and the universities are leeches.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He'd likely be retired. We'd also likely NOT have won in 2014. It was the bitter dregs of 2013 that drove the team to the heights of perfection in 2014. Miami would have probably turned the tables on US.

And LeBron would likely still be on the Heat.

I wouldn't swap 2014 for 2013. No way. That whole 2014 season was pure magic.

[VBM]

I wouldn't, the 2014 Spurs are one of the most unique teams I have ever seen. Winning a title without a legit star player is almost unheard of, but winning a title in such dominating fashion with nothing but role players having to build something so much greater than the sum of the parts was amazing to see. You couldn't just dump it to Duncan on the block like in 2003 or iso Kawhi at the key like now, all the superstar talent was either too old (Duncan, Ginobili), too young (Leonard), or too injured (Parker).

I see what you're saying. It was 2004 Detroit vs. LA all over again in that respect.


The only title that even comes close to how much I enjoyed 2014 was 1999, thanks to me witnessing 15 years of soul crushing losses before it. And even then, I think I enjoyed 2014 even more. The 2013 team really rode Parker and he was unbelievable, but he never had another year like that in him again. He was breaking down in 2014 and yet Pop spun that hardship into a team that was worlds better. It wasn't like the Spurs were just killing Miami. They were running OKC out of the AT&T Center with crazy ass blowouts. They walked into Portland and destroyed them in their building. The Dallas series was ugly for a while, but damn did the team respond in Game 7. I don't think any of that happens if Ray Allen doesn't hit that three and just stomp on the Spurs hearts. I mean losing that game really hurt as a fan because it would have been incredible to beat a 66 win Heat team that had won 29 straight, and I was always somewhat jealous of Dallas and Detroit fans getting to experience a title as a huge underdog. And that would have been one of the alltime great upsets. But instead it was something that made the team so much better, so much hungrier. For a title this season to even come close to matching how much 2014 meant the Warriors would probably have to win 75 games and Duncan would probably have to hit a three in OT of Game 7 in Oracle. Teams like the 2014 Spurs aren't supposed to win, and instead they were a record breaking great team.

Sure it's a great story. But I think it'd be an even better story that the Spurs had been written off (even by their own point guard) only to have Old Man Riverwalk himself put the team on his back in what should have been a series-clinching Game 6 and ride off into the sunset. Five for five in the finals plus a 4th Finals MVP...the narrative would have been insane.

[baseline bum]

Sure it's a great story. But I think it'd be an even better story that the Spurs had been written off (even by their own point guard) only to have Old Man Riverwalk himself put the team on his back in what should have been a series-clinching Game 6 and ride off into the sunset. Five for five in the finals plus a 4th Finals MVP...the narrative would have been insane.

Had the Spurs won in 2013, I think the storyline would have been LeBron throwing a title away with those two ridiculous turnovers right after Parker's three to tie it in Game 6 with a little more than a minute left. It would be considered a fluke title. The media narrative would have been about Danny Green and Gary Neal just getting hot at the right time, and LeBron getting scared, not being able to close the deal. Because they won everyone forgets that horrible airball pass (shot?) James threw right to Ginobili, but if the Spurs won in 2013 that would be the defining moment of the series that everyone remembered.

Another major storyline would be the Spurs daring LeBron to beat them with jump shots, and James not being able to do it. It's why the Spurs were getting away with guarding James so much with Diaw. The gameplan was to completely back off him. A 2013 Spurs win would have been viewed as a shortcoming of James.

Meanwhile in 2014 the Spurs actually guarded LeBron, they were all up in his shit. The 2014 title could never be viewed as a failure of James', it was all about an amazing team just denying him. Coming back from that horrible loss, man, the media and every NBA fan alive had to respect that. The 2013 Spurs were not an all time great team, but the 2014 Spurs were. I would take them against any team the Spurs ever fielded. And the Spurs were written off after losing the 2013 title. That was supposed to be the last opportunity to squeeze a title out of Duncan's career.

[TampaDude]

And LeBron would likely still be on the Heat.

I wouldn't swap 2014 for 2013. No way. That whole 2014 season was pure magic.

^ this

I rode that high all summer long. MASTERPIECE! :lobt2:

[kobyz]

I see what you're saying. It was 2004 Detroit vs. LA all over again in that respect.



Sure it's a great story. But I think it'd be an even better story that the Spurs had been written off (even by their own point guard) only to have Old Man Riverwalk himself put the team on his back in what should have been a series-clinching Game 6 and ride off into the sunset. Five for five in the finals plus a 4th Finals MVP...the narrative would have been insane.

Would have been much better story for sure!

[pookenstein]

Had the Spurs won in 2013, I think the storyline would have been LeBron throwing a title away with those two ridiculous turnovers right after Parker's three to tie it in Game 6 with a little more than a minute left. It would be considered a fluke title. The media narrative would have been about Danny Green and Gary Neal just getting hot at the right time, and LeBron getting scared, not being able to close the deal. Because they won everyone forgets that horrible airball pass (shot?) James threw right to Ginobili, but if the Spurs won in 2013 that would be the defining moment of the series that everyone remembered.

Another major storyline would be the Spurs daring LeBron to beat them with jump shots, and James not being able to do it. It's why the Spurs were getting away with guarding James so much with Diaw. The gameplan was to completely back off him. A 2013 Spurs win would have been viewed as a shortcoming of James.

Meanwhile in 2014 the Spurs actually guarded LeBron, they were all up in his shit. The 2014 title could never be viewed as a failure of James', it was all about an amazing team just denying him. Coming back from that horrible loss, man, the media and every NBA fan alive had to respect that. The 2013 Spurs were not an all time great team, but the 2014 Spurs were. I would take them against any team the Spurs ever fielded. And the Spurs were written off after losing the 2013 title. That was supposed to be the last opportunity to squeeze a title out of Duncan's career.

:bobo

[Sean Cagney]

True. I would never trade the 2014 title for the 2013 one.
We retired Fisher, Allen and Battier... Tell me any better way to script that??? All three I could not stand tbh.

[kobyz]

Had the Spurs won in 2013, I think the storyline would have been LeBron throwing a title away with those two ridiculous turnovers right after Parker's three to tie it in Game 6 with a little more than a minute left. It would be considered a fluke title. The media narrative would have been about Danny Green and Gary Neal just getting hot at the right time, and LeBron getting scared, not being able to close the deal. Because they won everyone forgets that horrible airball pass (shot?) James threw right to Ginobili, but if the Spurs won in 2013 that would be the defining moment of the series that everyone remembered.

Another major storyline would be the Spurs daring LeBron to beat them with jump shots, and James not being able to do it. It's why the Spurs were getting away with guarding James so much with Diaw. The gameplan was to completely back off him. A 2013 Spurs win would have been viewed as a shortcoming of James.

Meanwhile in 2014 the Spurs actually guarded LeBron, they were all up in his shit. The 2014 title could never be viewed as a failure of James', it was all about an amazing team just denying him. Coming back from that horrible loss, man, the media and every NBA fan alive had to respect that. The 2013 Spurs were not an all time great team, but the 2014 Spurs were. I would take them against any team the Spurs ever fielded. And the Spurs were written off after losing the 2013 title. That was supposed to be the last opportunity to squeeze a title out of Duncan's career.

Man, cut the bs, you tryin too hard... This place is unbelivible, most denial place in all Internet!