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Chef Curry
03-30-2016, 07:45 PM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241389/Joe-Lacob-Warriors-Light-Years-Ahead-Of-Every-Other-Team-In-Structure-Planningf-Every-Other-Team-In-Structure-Planning
The Golden State Warriors could break the all-time regular season wins record as they work to defend their title.
Joe Lacob believes the Warriors' results are a product of their master plan.
“The great, great venture capitalists who built company after company, that’s not an accident,” he said. “And none of this is an accident, either.”
Lacob believes the Warriors are playing in a more sophisticated way than the rest of the NBA.
“We’ve crushed them on the basketball court, and we’re going to for years because of the way we’ve built this team,” he said. But what really set the franchise apart, he said, was the way it operated as a business. “We’re light-years ahead of probably every other team in structure, in planning, in how we’re going to go about things,” he said. “We’re going to be a handful for the rest of the NBA to deal with for a long time.”
Lacob bought the Warriors in 2010 and used his experience in the world of venture capital to create the structure of the franchise.
“In venture capital, I started 70 companies,” he told me. “I also watched my partners’ deals, maybe 200 of them. That’s a lot of companies. I thought about the way we design a board of directors, the way we design the financing. There’s an architecture to it. And I started thinking about the architecture I would use when I owned and built my own team someday.”
It certainly helps to have a player of the caliber of Stephen Curry, but Lacob sees the success of one of the league's most transcendent players as part of the entire infrastructure.
“It’s not just Steph Curry,” said Lacob. “It’s architecting a team, a style of play, the way they all play together. It’s all extremely thought through.”
Chef Curry
03-30-2016, 07:45 PM
It's funny because it's true :lol
http://i.imgur.com/gM7gLj2.gif
daslicer
03-30-2016, 08:36 PM
This guy has always come across to me as nutty especially when he cursed out the Warriors at halftime of the Lakers game that they eventually lost. He's delusional he probably believes the Warriors are going to go on some Russell Celtics type of run. Whenever the Warriors are dethroned this guy will have a meltdown of epic proportions. Warriors are going to be great train wreck material once they go down.
Chris
03-30-2016, 08:37 PM
This guy has always come across to me as nutty especially when he cursed out the Warriors at halftime of the Lakers game that they eventually lost. He's delusional he probably believes the Warriors are going to go on some Russell Celtics type of run. Whenever the Warriors are dethroned this guy will have a meltdown of epic proportions. Warriors are going to be great train wreck material once they go down.
It's funny because it's true :lol
daslicer
03-30-2016, 08:41 PM
It's funny because it's true :lol
It's funny because in the end he's going to end up looking stupid.The ceiling of this team is possibly 3 titles but he's probably expected 9 or 10. This guy will blow a gasket once the Warriors are dethroned.
SupremeGuy
03-30-2016, 08:58 PM
It's funny because it's true :lol:lol
Spurtacular
03-30-2016, 09:30 PM
Warriors are light years ahead of the other teams in faggotry, tbh.
William Hung
03-30-2016, 09:36 PM
Warriors are light years ahead of the other teams in faggotry, tbh.
:lol
Seventyniner
03-30-2016, 10:02 PM
Yet another person thinking that a combination of skill and luck is instead all skill. I bet Lacob is a terrible poker player.
baseline bum
03-30-2016, 10:05 PM
LOL I remember articles like this about Krause and Reinsdorf back in the Bulls heyday. They're winning because Stephen Curry is the greatest shooter in league history and because they have put some nice athletes around him. Joe Lacob acting like he's the one out there chasing 73 wins is pathetic.
apalisoc_9
03-30-2016, 10:56 PM
Wcf wins is only going to be sweeter...
Benoit
03-30-2016, 11:01 PM
Hes stating the obvious
The only comparable franchise is the Spurs but they had to tank to get their franchise player who was an obvious #1 pick out of college
In terms of starting from scratch, the Dubs are unmatched
spursistan
03-30-2016, 11:02 PM
@RD2191 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42690) said it best: who these faggots think they are, tbh? :lol Spurs have been doing it for 20 years and these faggots are talking smack after a cakewalk run to title...
I have mentioned in another thread, i would have no problem losing in the Finals just to see us humble these fuckers in wcf..
Kawhitstorm
03-31-2016, 12:32 AM
In terms of starting from scratch, the Dubs are unmatched
How is it from "scratch" when Iggy is the Finals MVP & Bogut is the starting center?:lol (OKC would be a MUCH better example)
Benoit
03-31-2016, 12:36 AM
How is it from "scratch" when Iggy is the Finals MVP?:lol
Because Joe Lacob directly recruited and wanted Iggy
His talent was rotting away in Denver where they werent utilizing him properly
This franchise sees things that others dont
Players like Barbosa and Speights and Livingston appeared to be finished in the eyes of the other NBA franchises
Kawhitstorm
03-31-2016, 12:39 AM
Because Joe Lacob directly recruited and wanted Iggy
So, the 2008-12 Celtics were built from scratch?:lmao
Benoit
03-31-2016, 12:42 AM
So, the 2008-12 Celtics were built from scratch?:lmao
lmao youre comparing a team with 3 free agents as their core to a team that has a foundation of drafted players(Steph, Klay and Dray) and had the vision to surround them with established free agents??
yes thats clearly starting from scratch
Kawhitstorm
03-31-2016, 12:47 AM
lmao youre comparing a team with 3 free agents as their core to a team that has a foundation of drafted players(Steph, Klay and Dray) and had the vision to surround them with established free agents??
yes thats clearly starting from scratch
So, the current Spurs would be considering "built from scratch" if say LMA wins Finals MVP aka "built not bought"?:lol
Kawhitstorm
03-31-2016, 12:51 AM
LOL I remember articles like this about Krause and Reinsdorf back in the Bulls heyday. They're winning because Stephen Curry is the greatest shooter in league history and because they have put some nice athletes around him. Joe Lacob acting like he's the one out there chasing 73 wins is pathetic.
Mitch/Jim were crowned the "best in the league" in the late 2000s after the Pau trade all the way through the Dwight trade then look what happened when MVPau fell off (reverted back to the post-Shaq/pre-Pau era).:lol
nowitzkikopf
03-31-2016, 12:57 AM
fwiw Lacob is a gigantic ass-hole, anyone in the VC space knows this
Benoit
03-31-2016, 01:07 AM
fwiw Lacob is a gigantic ass-hole, anyone in the VC space knows this
You probably think he's an asshole because he hired the first openly homosexual president in pro sports
Typical Texan Spurs or Mavs fan
lebomb
03-31-2016, 06:12 AM
Come back and talk to us in say....... 15yrs. Dont blow your man batter after only 2yrs of success. LOL
hsxvvd
03-31-2016, 06:51 AM
Come back and talk to us in say....... 15yrs. Dont blow your man batter after only 2yrs of success. LOL
This.
Spurs9
03-31-2016, 08:25 AM
Wcf wins is only going to be sweeter...
Yup, the warriors level of ego and cockiness is hilarious.
Took it a bit too far...did he forget about the other top team in the WC? The one that has been winning for what...2 decades now?
I don't know if that was deliberate, but the spurs are the best run organization in all of sports, no way Lacob ignores that.
Benoit
03-31-2016, 01:47 PM
Spurs benefit a lot from playing in a small market
Imagine Tony Parker banging a teammates wife in a big market?? lmao thats worse than what D'Angelo Russell did and nobody talks about it other than hardcore NBA fans
Chris
03-31-2016, 02:26 PM
Spurs benefit a lot from playing in a small market
Imagine Tony Parker banging a teammates wife in a big market?? lmao thats worse than what D'Angelo Russell did and nobody talks about it other than hardcore NBA fans
Brent wasn't on the team and was separated from said wife. Parker simply utilized the MAC system.
I. Hustle
03-31-2016, 02:36 PM
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Raven
03-31-2016, 02:47 PM
aren't these the guys who were paying andris biedrins and david lee close to max money for years until last year?
Obstructed_View
03-31-2016, 04:52 PM
Venture ven·ture ˈ/ven(t)SHər/
noun
1. A risky or daring journey or undertaking.
"pioneering ventures into little-known waters"
If your plan hinged on Andrew Bogut and Stef Curry to stay healthy through two seasons, you don't deserve a trophy for planning, but you fit the definition of a venture capitalist.
Brent wasn't on the team and was separated from said wife. Parker simply utilized the MAC system.
:lol
nowitzkikopf
03-31-2016, 06:15 PM
You probably think he's an asshole because he hired the first openly homosexual president in pro sports
Typical Texan Spurs or Mavs fan
lmao, bay area native, german born. happen to appreciate what the spurs have done for the last 15 years. go back to rooting for the lakers.
FromWayDowntown
03-31-2016, 06:24 PM
I love Warriors "fans" who act as though nothing of significance happened in the NBA before 2014.
They make the real GST fans -- who supported that team when it was total garbage -- look bad.
nickdakoolkat
03-31-2016, 10:42 PM
I don't think he is talking about just basketball when he says they are lightyears ahead. He is talking about the whole package including the business/marketing side, he has a vision of making the new Arena in SF a place where you can not only go watch great basketball but also enjoy good food, drinks, shopping, and nightlife. I think he is an egotistical mad man, but most extremely rich people are so whatever. I can tell you one thing he is so much better than the previous ownership, and definitely better then most other NBA owners IMO
Benoit
03-31-2016, 10:49 PM
I don't think he is talking about just basketball when he says they are lightyears ahead. He is talking about the whole package including the business/marketing side, he has a vision of making the new Arena in SF a place where you can not only go watch great basketball but also enjoy good food, drinks, shopping, and nightlife. I think he is an egotistical mad man, but most extremely rich people are so whatever. I can tell you one thing he is so much better than the previous ownership, and definitely better then most other NBA owners IMO
Amen brother
Not to mention we are ahead of everybody in analytics and physical training of players
no warrior fan is going to bring up brent barry lol. The old school fans won't give a shit and the new bandwagon fans won't remember that far. Thus QED we have a Laker troll trying to stay relevant.
nickdakoolkat
04-01-2016, 08:52 PM
no warrior fan is going to bring up brent barry lol. The old school fans won't give a shit and the new bandwagon fans won't remember that far. Thus QED we have a Laker troll trying to stay relevant.
What does brent barry have to do with the warriors? Other than having a dad who was one of the best nba players of all time...
spankadelphia
04-02-2016, 09:13 AM
Management didn't make Curry a walking cheat code.
Baseline21
04-02-2016, 04:30 PM
Amen brother
Not to mention we are ahead of everybody in analytics and physical training of players
So you're ahead of everyone from a physical training stand point? If I do recall steph missed a lot of games in his career so far because of weak ankles. It's just a matter of time before he gets grant hills ankles. Lol
Ghazi
04-02-2016, 05:14 PM
They're barely ahead of the Spurs.
Spurs9
04-02-2016, 05:57 PM
They're barely ahead of the Spurs.
And how many games have our starters been rested along the way. Has curry/klay/green rested any games this season? Our bench have beaten teams this season.
Thread
04-02-2016, 05:59 PM
And how many games have our starters been rested along the way. Has curry/klay/green rested any games this season? Our bench have beaten teams this season.
And now you've have to face starting in California. You made that choice.
Kawhitstorm
04-02-2016, 11:21 PM
Venture ven·ture ˈ/ven(t)SHər/
noun
1. A risky or daring journey or undertaking.
"pioneering ventures into little-known waters"
If your plan hinged on Andrew Bogut and Stef Curry to stay healthy through two seasons, you don't deserve a trophy for planning, but you fit the definition of a venture capitalist.
Actually, they are referred to as VULTURE capitalist.:lol
:lmao
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Spurs9
05-25-2016, 12:42 PM
Beat me to this bump tbh
ElNono
06-19-2016, 09:41 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao
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MultiTroll
06-19-2016, 10:00 PM
It's funny because it's true :lol
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SuperCam
06-19-2016, 10:01 PM
Faggot didn't realize there was another hebe in this series for Silverwitcz to help win the series :lol
spursistan
06-20-2016, 12:44 AM
great bump :lol
Eat shit.. now..
Splits
06-20-2016, 12:46 AM
It's funny because it's true :lol
http://i.imgur.com/gM7gLj2.gif
:lmao
Clipper Nation
06-20-2016, 12:59 AM
Light-years ahead in choking, too.
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06-20-2016, 01:01 AM
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resistanze
06-20-2016, 01:17 AM
http://i.imgur.com/qB6wYy5.gif
props to djohn tbh...this gif will make rounds to everyone at work for tomorrow....
Sean Cagney
06-20-2016, 01:31 AM
Show up now Chefsteviejohnson, it's only right. You ran your mouth all year, pay the piper.
AlexJones
06-20-2016, 01:33 AM
No one to blame but Kerr. Warriors peaked under Walton.
Kawhitstorm
06-20-2016, 02:22 AM
Amen brother
Not to mention we are ahead of everybody in analytics and physical training of players
:lmao
Ice009
06-20-2016, 03:02 AM
They're so far ahead that they just decided to skip winning the Championship this year and go straight ahead to retooling.
They're so far ahead that they just decided to skip winning the Championship this year and go straight ahead to retooling.
Oh my God, :lol
spursistan
06-20-2016, 03:15 AM
They're so far ahead that they just decided to skip winning the Championship this year and go straight ahead to retooling.
:lmao
spursistan
06-20-2016, 10:04 PM
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I can only imagine their shadenfreude last night..
The loss doesn't change the fact that the Warriors have built a team that the entire league worked all season to try to figure out. If Bogut stays upright and Green doesn't go full blown Zulu, they'd be toting another. Same team that kicked the living shit out of us more than once this season. Just a few points and it all would be different, and Lebron would be the fuck toy, and all of you would pretend the Warriors decimated the Cavs.
daslicer
06-20-2016, 10:20 PM
The loss doesn't change the fact that the Warriors have built a team that the entire league worked all season to try to figure out. If Bogut stays upright and Green doesn't go full blown Zulu, they'd be toting another. Same team that kicked the living shit out of us more than once this season. Just a few points and it all would be different, and Lebron would be the fuck toy, and all of you would pretend the Warriors decimated the Cavs.
You can apply that rational to any team in NBA history that has come close to winning. A few more points in '04,'06,'13 and the Spurs have 8 championships instead of 5.
You can apply that rational to any team in NBA history that has come close to winning. A few more points in '04,'06,'13 and the Spurs have 8 championships instead of 5.
I didn't say the Cavs didn't deserve it or that the Warriors did. I said the difference isn't as great as all the bandwagon stupidity makes it out to be. For sure the Splash Brothers weren't up to the task, for whatever reason, but pretending that 4 point difference says something about Kerr or the Warriors is ludicrous. It says something about Lebron and the Cavs. Last year they had 2 of their big 3 out. This year the Warriors had to suffer losses. The pendulum swung. It doesn't say a lot about either team we didn't already know.
I've explained the 3-1 comeback. Bogut went down. There was not another win after that. That's because what Curry and Klay do on the perimeter is fueled in large part by having a huge moving screen named Bogut, and by having a defender in the paint so they can hide Curry on someone besides Lebron. Mo and Festus together can't carry Bogut's jock strap.
Budkin
06-21-2016, 12:55 AM
So many years of light.
xellos88330
06-21-2016, 12:34 PM
They're so far ahead that they just decided to skip winning the Championship this year and go straight ahead to retooling.
Savage!!!
Perry Mason
06-21-2016, 02:11 PM
I didn't say the Cavs didn't deserve it or that the Warriors did. I said the difference isn't as great as all the bandwagon stupidity makes it out to be. For sure the Splash Brothers weren't up to the task, for whatever reason, but pretending that 4 point difference says something about Kerr or the Warriors is ludicrous. It says something about Lebron and the Cavs. Last year they had 2 of their big 3 out. This year the Warriors had to suffer losses. The pendulum swung. It doesn't say a lot about either team we didn't already know.
I've explained the 3-1 comeback. Bogut went down. There was not another win after that. That's because what Curry and Klay do on the perimeter is fueled in large part by having a huge moving screen named Bogut, and by having a defender in the paint so they can hide Curry on someone besides Lebron. Mo and Festus together can't carry Bogut's jock strap.
Would this be the same Bogut that averaged a whopping 12 minutes in the finals?
lebomb
06-21-2016, 02:28 PM
I didn't say the Cavs didn't deserve it or that the Warriors did. I said the difference isn't as great as all the bandwagon stupidity makes it out to be. For sure the Splash Brothers weren't up to the task, for whatever reason, but pretending that 4 point difference says something about Kerr or the Warriors is ludicrous. It says something about Lebron and the Cavs. Last year they had 2 of their big 3 out. This year the Warriors had to suffer losses. The pendulum swung. It doesn't say a lot about either team we didn't already know.
I've explained the 3-1 comeback. Bogut went down. There was not another win after that. That's because what Curry and Klay do on the perimeter is fueled in large part by having a huge moving screen named Bogut, and by having a defender in the paint so they can hide Curry on someone besides Lebron. Mo and Festus together can't carry Bogut's jock strap.
Then what the hell about last year playuh? Cleveland had no Kyrie, or Love.....no Dick Jefferson either (chuckles). You can't bring up players missing and get sympathy. That shit didnt matter last season, or any other finals before when people were missing. That is basketball, deal with it.
Would this be the same Bogut that averaged a whopping 12 minutes in the finals?
Yes thus the loss. Nice work Sherlock. He went out near the beginning of the 2nd half in game 5. If you factor in .5 games for that he actually averaged closer to 18 minutes, slightly off pace from his 18.4 mpg from last year's Finals.
Box score watchers will box score watch though. Stay strong.
Then what the hell about last year playuh? Cleveland had no Kyrie, or Love.....no Dick Jefferson either (chuckles). You can't bring up players missing and get sympathy. That shit didnt matter last season, or any other finals before when people were missing. That is basketball, deal with it.
And they lost.
Next?
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06-22-2016, 12:02 AM
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spursistan
06-22-2016, 11:10 PM
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I don't believe in karma, but boy is this jerk bringing shit on himself and the team? :lol
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Kawhitstorm
06-23-2016, 12:19 AM
I've explained the 3-1 comeback. Bogut went down. There was not another win after that. That's because what Curry and Klay do on the perimeter is fueled in large part by having a huge moving screen named Bogut, and by having a defender in the paint so they can hide Curry on someone besides Lebron. Mo and Festus together can't carry Bogut's jock strap.
Bogut was BENCHED for Ezeli in the 2015 Finals after the Cavs went up 2-1 by essentially attacking him in every PnR. He played a grand total of ZERO minutes in the finals 3 games which were all wins for the Duds.:lol
Perry Mason
06-23-2016, 07:51 AM
Yes thus the loss. Nice work Sherlock. He went out near the beginning of the 2nd half in game 5. If you factor in .5 games for that he actually averaged closer to 18 minutes, slightly off pace from his 18.4 mpg from last year's Finals.
Box score watchers will box score watch though. Stay strong.
Your math is way off. It's embarrassing really. Half a game of 6 minutes leads to changing an avg from 12 to 18? Do you even read what you write?
Also, you say "thus the loss", but that is a conclusion. Got any reasoning for that conclusion? Beyond the vanilla "Bogut protects the rim."
Let's not also forget that Bogut's recent health is an outlier and the guy is always close to injury. By your logic, the Bulls should be the finals winner but for the D Rose injury.
Killakobe81
06-23-2016, 07:56 AM
Your math is way off. It's embarrassing really. Half a game of 6 minutes leads to changing an avg from 12 to 18? Do you even read what you write?
Also, you say "thus the loss", but that is a conclusion. Got any reasoning for that conclusion? Beyond the vanilla "Bogut protects the rim."
Let's not also forget that Bogut's recent health is an outlier and the guy is always close to injury. By your logic, the Bulls should be the finals winner but for the D Rose injury.
This should be good.
DMC does not take kindly to being challenged.
Kid is a fighter and his words are sharp (but not always his takes) they cut like a GINSU. :corn:
Thread
06-23-2016, 08:19 AM
This should be good.
DMC does not take kindly to being challenged.
And it doesn't stand to reason because he never admits to being wrong anyway.
Bogut was BENCHED for Ezeli in the 2015 Finals after the Cavs went up 2-1 by essentially attacking him in every PnR. He played a grand total of ZERO minutes in the finals 3 games which were all wins for the Duds.:lol
Too bad time moves the other direction.
Your math is way off. It's embarrassing really. Half a game of 6 minutes leads to changing an avg from 12 to 18? Do you even read what you write?
Also, you say "thus the loss", but that is a conclusion. Got any reasoning for that conclusion? Beyond the vanilla "Bogut protects the rim."
Let's not also forget that Bogut's recent health is an outlier and the guy is always close to injury. By your logic, the Bulls should be the finals winner but for the D Rose injury.
Half of Game 5.
The 18 number was wrong. He would have been closer to 13.5
Either way you have to factor in that he only played half a game but the mpg considers only that he played in that game.
W
W
L
W
Bogut out (score 64/67 Cavs)
L
L
L
Warriors lose next three games in historical fashion.
Bogut is a big moving screen. Guys cannot get around him to contest Curry or Klay fast enough and Bogut is a great passer. Festus was a liability.
There's a reason we beat them in SA when Bogut and Iggy were out.
Game 5
Can you see where Bogut went out? I can.
http://stats-prod.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/65/2016/06/RECAP_LEAD-TRACKER.png
Kawhitstorm
06-23-2016, 11:36 AM
Too bad time moves the other direction.
Except your the one trying to recreate the games based on hypotheticals.:lmao
They lost, DEAL WITH IT!:baby
Obstructed_View
06-23-2016, 11:54 AM
I didn't say the Cavs didn't deserve it or that the Warriors did. I said the difference isn't as great as all the bandwagon stupidity makes it out to be. For sure the Splash Brothers weren't up to the task, for whatever reason, but pretending that 4 point difference says something about Kerr or the Warriors is ludicrous. It says something about Lebron and the Cavs. Last year they had 2 of their big 3 out. This year the Warriors had to suffer losses. The pendulum swung. It doesn't say a lot about either team we didn't already know.
I've explained the 3-1 comeback. Bogut went down. There was not another win after that. That's because what Curry and Klay do on the perimeter is fueled in large part by having a huge moving screen named Bogut, and by having a defender in the paint so they can hide Curry on someone besides Lebron. Mo and Festus together can't carry Bogut's jock strap.
I'll say it again: If you're bragging about how you've built your team to crush everyone else, and it all hinges on the health of Andrew Bogut, you aren't playing chess, you're shooting craps.
Obstructed_View
06-23-2016, 11:56 AM
And they lost.
Next?
The Dubs had one of the easiest paths to a title in recent memory. Again, not really fertile ground for their owner to be crowing about how far his team is ahead of everyone else.
Except your the one trying to recreate the games based on hypotheticals.:lmao
They lost, DEAL WITH IT!:baby
No I'm not. I'm pointing out facts. Warriors never won a game after Bogut was out, and were doing ok in that game prior to that moment. It's all speculation, and they might have lost anyhow, but Bogut does a lot more for that team than the stat sheets show. Actually the stat sheets do show his contributions if you know how to look.
Kawhitstorm
06-23-2016, 02:09 PM
No I'm not. I'm pointing out facts. Warriors never won a game after Bogut was out, and were doing ok in that game prior to that moment. It's all speculation, and they might have lost anyhow, but Bogut does a lot more for that team than the stat sheets show. Actually the stat sheets do show his contributions if you know how to look.
Bogut wouldn't have been able to do anything when LeBron stopped pussy footing, it was proven last season when he run him to the bench.
I'll say it again: If you're bragging about how you've built your team to crush everyone else, and it all hinges on the health of Andrew Bogut, you aren't playing chess, you're shooting craps.
Every NBA success hinges on the health of players. There's a difference between crushing the RS league and crushing the playoffs.
Bogut wouldn't have been able to do anything when LeBron stopped pussy footing, it was proven last season when he run him to the bench.
Lebron just happened to do that midway through game 5.
Kawhitstorm
06-23-2016, 02:48 PM
Lebron just happened to do that midway through game 5.
LeBron had 12 points in the first quarter of Gm 5 to lead all players.:wakeup
Gm 1: WORST +/- on the team: -8 in a 15 point win:lmao (Didn't play a second after midway through the 3rd & the Duds pulled away)
Gm 2: Worst +/- among the starters: +10 in a 33 point blowout:lmao (Duds blew the game open when he got benched early in the 3rd)
Gm 3: Couldn't do shyt when LeBron took over the game:sleep
Gm 4: Was absolutely GHOST but the Duds still won on the ROAD.:lol
:hat
Obstructed_View
06-23-2016, 04:49 PM
Every NBA success hinges on the health of players.
Exactly. Every NBA success does. Which makes the Warriors no different than anyone else. Yet their owner was bragging about how the system was so next-level over everyone else, but they needed a starting center with a long injury history to be the lynchpin for the whole thing. Doesn't really make them the smartest guys in the room, does it?
Spurtacular
06-23-2016, 05:24 PM
Warriors would've still been a 58 plus win team without Bogut, imo. They should've won Game 7 at home without him. They choked though.
Exactly. Every NBA success does. Which makes the Warriors no different than anyone else. Yet their owner was bragging about how the system was so next-level over everyone else, but they needed a starting center with a long injury history to be the lynchpin for the whole thing. Doesn't really make them the smartest guys in the room, does it?
I don't know. No one on that team was a world beater a few years ago. It's not like they stacked. Now that the giant is dead we can poke fun about how little it really was, but it wasn't.
TDMVPDPOY
06-23-2016, 11:36 PM
bet yah he also planned 3-1
siraulo23
07-04-2016, 11:26 AM
You gotta give props tbh
this dude legit built the culture and structured this team like a boss. Drafts, FAs, Player development, coaching etc... Hes killing it
HarlemHeat37
07-04-2016, 11:57 AM
Damn, respect to Joe Lacob, tbh..he knew it all along..
AlexJones
07-04-2016, 11:58 AM
sacrified a title to win ~2 more
+++++++EV
should have expected nothing less from a top 10 blackjack player itw
ambchang
07-04-2016, 12:46 PM
It was Jerry West.
siraulo23
07-04-2016, 12:50 PM
They're so far ahead that they just decided to skip winning the Championship this year and go straight ahead to retooling.
Damn, that retool is worth it
:wow
Benoit
07-06-2016, 10:48 AM
unreal man, LYD was in the books before any of us knew
InRareForm
07-06-2016, 11:45 AM
This is like basketball inception
Killakobe81
07-06-2016, 11:48 AM
This is like basketball inception
Good call out ....
AlexJones
07-06-2016, 12:27 PM
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07-06-2016, 02:30 PM
^Pretty accurate comparison.
ambchang
07-06-2016, 05:21 PM
Light years ahead and their secret weapon was jerry west? Didn't that guy helped the lakers as a front office guy since the 70s?
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