Scottie Pippen on Kawhi

[daslicer]

Shaq interviewed Pippen on his podcast and asked the question about the Kawhi-Pippen comparisons. Pippen stated that Kawhi is more a half court dominating player while he was an open court player. Pippen also says he was more of a ball handler than Kawhi. The question is asked at the 22:16 mark.

http://www.podcastone.com/the-big-podcast-with-shaq?gclid=CPm76a-F88sCFdgUgQod7zwC8A

[Spurtacular]

Pippen already prepared for that: Rent free :lmao

[PrimeMinister]

Eh he's more Michael

[Kawhitstorm]

Eh he's more Michael

I guess you could say Iggy is the modern day Pippen & Kawhi is the modern day MJ.

[TheGreatYacht]

I guess you could say Iggy is the modern day Pippen & Kawhi is the modern day MJ.
Goddammn. This era really is shitty :lol

[Uriel]

Is Kawhi already better than Pippen?

[boutons_deux]

Pippen also says his Bulls would sweep the Warriors

[ceperez]

Pippen also says his Bulls would sweep the Warriors

I don't know about sweep, but definitely could win against the Warriors.

[Obstructed_View]

Is Kawhi already better than Pippen?

Based on the year and a half that Jordan sat out, I have to say yes. Better teammate, better scorer, better winner.

[JohnnyMax]

https://overcast.fm/+EsHd4LD0Q/22:16

[Dro210]

Is Kawhi already better than Pippen?

Yea... He passed him last year. The Pippen comparison is outdated. We're looking at Mike these days.

[BSfromTX]

I don't know about sweep, but definitely could win against the Warriors.


Pippen never really had to play much with the new rules either. But... What would Jordan have done under today defensive rules? He would torch GS. Not only on the perimeter but the block too.

Curry would have had a few more injuries too if he played in the 90s

[tmtcsc]

I guess you could say Iggy is the modern day Pippen

You could say it but you'd be wrong in my opinion. There's only been one MJ too. Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway and Kobe Bryant were all supposed to be the second coming but none of them were MJ. Off the court, you won't find a bigger piece of shit as a human being but on the court, he was the best.

[Obstructed_View]

You could say it but you'd be wrong in my opinion. There's only been one MJ too. Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway and Kobe Bryant were all supposed to be the second coming but none of them were MJ. Off the court, you won't find a bigger piece of shit as a human being but on the court, he was the best.

Grant Hill actually lived up to the hype. He was getting better every year, and he had the same kind of drive to win. He ground his ankle to powder trying to win a playoff series for a team he was leaving.

[PublicOption]

kawhi is a nicer latrell sprewell.

[DMC]

People really caught feelings over this? KL isn't anywhere near Pippen yet but he's got a pretty good head of steam.

[Kawhitstorm]

kawhi is a nicer latrell sprewell.

Spree was super athletic, built like Kobe & couldn't rebound like Kawhi. WestBrick is the closest thing to a young Sprewell.

Kawhi has Carmelo's offensive game & body but Pippen's length & defensive intensity.

[tmtcsc]

and he had the same kind of drive to win.

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[Sec24Row7]

I have a hard time saying that :claw is better than 33 yet.

Pippen was a RIDICULOUS defender and good scorer for 8+ years.

:claw could get there, but he has a long way to go.

[daslicer]

Put Kawhi on the Sixers and they wouldn't even post 37 wins

How many games would the Jazz win with Kawhi?

[tholdren]

Yea... He passed him last year. The Pippen comparison is outdated. We're looking at Mike these days.
go away

[DMX7]

Bullshit, the bulls would not sweep.

[Obstructed_View]

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You disagree, Ice?

[GSH]

Is Kawhi already better than Pippen?

The stats say he is.

Kawhi has a career EFG% of .554 (.571 this season) - the BEST season Pippen ever had was .529. That's a big offensive stat, IMO.

Pippen played more minutes per game, for a lot of his career, than Kawhi has played. So looking at Per36 stats (and leaving out Pippen's declining years):

Kawhi with 23.6 Points Per36 this season. Pippen's best season was 20.7 points Per36.
RB's, steals, and blocks are pretty comparable.
Pippen dished out more AST's, but committed almost twice as many TO's.
Kawhi getting to the line 4.9 times Per36 - about the same as Pippen's best. Kawhi shooting .887 from the FT line. Pippen was a career .704.

Pippen's career included playing with MJ, but also gave him a chance to distinguish himself without Jordan. Nothing changed drastically. The only place you could say Pippen was superior was his AST numbers. And that's comparing 5th year Kawhi to prime Pippen. If Kawhi's career-arc is similar to Pippen's, it won't even be close in another couple of years. But you could still make a case that Kawhi has an edge right now - at least if the numbers mean anything.

[steeledl]

Yea... He passed him last year. The Pippen comparison is outdated. We're looking at Mike these days.


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[tmtcsc]

You disagree, Ice?

I don't know man, MJ's drive to win was legendary. I know Hill was committed to doing his best and playing through injuries but MJ had another gear and intensity when it came to winning. Manu Ginobili's drive to win is intense too. You just never see the guy take plays off.

[tmtcsc]

Kawhi has a terrific turn around jumper and mid-range game to go along with his improved 3 pt shot. He's a fantastic player. It's hard to compare him to Pippen because he always had MJ by his side. He was a badass too.

Kawhi's games 3 & 4 against Miami during the 2014 Championship run showed what he could do on the biggest stage. He bounced back from 2 sub par games and led the team to victory.

[tholdren]

lol retard spurs fans

[Obstructed_View]

I don't know man, MJ's drive to win was legendary. I know Hill was committed to doing his best and playing through injuries but MJ had another gear and intensity when it came to winning. Manu Ginobili's drive to win is intense too. You just never see the guy take plays off.

Yeah, yeah, okay. I tried to bluster my way out of it, but I hereby retract the statement for its ridiculousness. I just remember him scoring 36 points on a bad ankle for that shitty Pistons team that quit on him in the playoffs and I get angry and feel the need to defend his honor.

Jordan was and is a damaged human being which is why he operates the way he does. Hill would have been a team-first Kobe. He'd have been the second best shooting guard behind Jordan if he'd stayed healthy, and it would have driven the Kobefans crazy.

[dbreiden83080]

Scottie compared himself to Lebron? :lol

[DeRozan m8]

Scottie compared himself to Lebron? :lol

He's two thirds better than LeBron tbh

[tmtcsc]

Yeah, yeah, okay. I tried to bluster my way out of it, but I hereby retract the statement for its ridiculousness. I just remember him scoring 36 points on a bad ankle for that shitty Pistons team that quit on him in the playoffs and I get angry and feel the need to defend his honor.

Jordan was and is a damaged human being which is why he operates the way he does. Hill would have been a team-first Kobe. He'd have been the second best shooting guard behind Jordan if he'd stayed healthy, and it would have driven the Kobefans crazy.


I agree. It's amazing Hill ever came back from his injuries to be a solid contributor for Phoenix. He had it all but wasn't as selfish as Kobe.

[ginobilized]

Kawhi reminds me of a hybrid of Dr. J, Pippen and James Worthy.....that is a badass combo.
Kawhi shoots the 3 better than any of them already. Sky's the limit for this kid.

[J_Paco]

People really caught feelings over this? KL isn't anywhere near Pippen yet but he's got a pretty good head of steam.

Completely disagree, man. He hasn't reached the peak of his abilities, yet, but Kawhi is already Pippen's equal everywhere on the court except for playmaking and ballhandling. I definitely think he's already better than Pippen (at his peak) on the offensive end. Kawhi is more versatile and can shoot from outside which was never Pippen's strength. Pippen was also a little bit more athletic, but not by a big enough amount for it to matter. I definitely think Kawhi could surpass him career wise with how his trajectory is headed.

[YGWHI]

Completely disagree, man. He hasn't reached the peak of his abilities, yet, but Kawhi is already Pippen's equal everywhere on the court except for playmaking and ballhandling. I definitely think he's already better than Pippen (at his peak) on the offensive end. Kawhi is more versatile and can shoot from outside which was never Pippen's strength. Pippen was also a little bit more athletic, but not by a big enough amount for it to matter. I definitely think Kawhi could surpass him career wise with how his trajectory is headed.

Who knows but Kawhi-24-years-old looks a lot better than Pippen-24-years-old, the same with Kawhi's individual 5th season>>> Pippen 5th season.

Don't trust those guys who keep saying "Kawhi isn't..." "He won't be..." "He isn't playing at that level..." "He will never reach that level..." I wouldn't bet against Kawhi Leonard.

:claw

[J_Paco]

Who knows but Kawhi-24-years-old looks a lot better than Pippen-24-years-old, the same with Kawhi's individual 5th season>>> Pippen 5th season.

Don't trust those guys who keep saying "Kawhi isn't..." "He won't be..." "He isn't playing at that level..." "He will never reach that level..." I wouldn't bet against Kawhi Leonard.

:claw

He isn't as naturally gifted as some of the all-time great players, but like Bird (but with possibly better physical tools) he can likely close the gap with hard work and sheer "force of will" as they say.

Amazing that we are even contemplating this with a guy projected as a 'tweener forward without a reliable jump shot coming out of college. He's already far surpassed most people's projects for him and he hasn't even hit his prime yet. Crazy, man......

[Benoit]

Can you guys imagine Scottie getting torched by Joe Ingles?? lmao

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[Down Under]

He'll pass him sooner or later. Leonard is a much better shooter - Pippen was pretty ordinary. Leonard is having to defend better athlete's with harder rules and is still having more impact IMO. His ball handling keeps improving and so will his playmaking