Gap Apologizes for 'Racist' Ad

[DMX7]

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/273593

https://assets.entrepreneur.com/content/16x9/822/20160405190248-gap-ad.jpeg

[Wild Cobra]

OMG...

They are laying down to the PC police.

I will never shop there again.

[SpursforSix]

ridiculous

[Wild Cobra]

ridiculous

Yep.

Time for people to boycott.

[DarrinS]

:lol

[vy65]

Why do you give a fuck?

[Wild Cobra]

Why do you give a fuck?

LOL...

I don't.

I don't shop there anyway.

It's fucking stupid to claim any innocent action as racist though.

[Spurminator]

Yep.

Time for people to boycott.

They didn't need to apologize, but your reaction is even more ridiculous.

[vy65]

So you posted a picture you don't give a fuck about.

And asked a question to the class about it.

K.

[Th'Pusher]

OMG...

They are laying down to the PC police.

I will never shop there again.

Where are you going to buy the denim overalls you where to work?

[Trill Clinton]

ad is offensive and i accept their apology. i hope their marketing department and the GAP staff takes racial sensitivity training.

[Blake]

Yep.

Time for people to boycott.

Lol what people? White people?

[DarrinS]

ad is offensive and i accept their apology. i hope their marketing department and the GAP staff takes racial sensitivity training.

fixed that font for you

[Trill Clinton]

fixed that font for you


^^typical white telling non whites what they should find offensive^^

[Spurminator]

The kids probably posed like that and dozens of other ways and Gap thought that one looked the best of the photos they took. BFD.

[boutons_deux]

why wasn't there a taller black girl leaning on (oppressing), superior too a smaller white girl?

[DarrinS]

lol


http://www.glamour.com/images/fashion/2015/07/ellen-degeneres-ed-gapkids-collection-main.jpg

[DMX7]

You have to be looking to be offended in order to actually be offended by that picture.

[Sportcamper]

Is this ad racist? :lol

http://www.quicktapsurvey.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/gap-kids-2.jpg

[DMX7]

lol


http://www.glamour.com/images/fashion/2015/07/ellen-degeneres-ed-gapkids-collection-main.jpg

In some ways, that's more racist than the one in the OP.

[DarrinS]

In some ways, that's more racist than the one in the OP.


Why? I think neither of them are racist.

[rmt]

People are just too sensitive these days.

[Trill Clinton]

Is this ad racist? :lol

http://www.quicktapsurvey.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/gap-kids-2.jpg


it could be

[Spurminator]

People are just too sensitive these days.

I agree, look how indignant people get over a huge international clothing company apologizing for something.

[SpursforSix]

yep...we have a white girl putting her elbow on a black girl's head...next thing you know it's all

FftZt-Dw_hQ

[lefty]

:lol seeing racism everywhere

[Wild Cobra]

lol


http://www.glamour.com/images/fashion/2015/07/ellen-degeneres-ed-gapkids-collection-main.jpg

So Trill et.al.

Is this offensive?

[Wild Cobra]

:lol seeing racism everywhere
I see stupid ignorant shits everywhere...

[SpursforSix]

So Trill et.al.

Is this offensive?

It's slightly offensive in that the other races are represented by girls but they use a trans for the black child.

[Blake]

I agree, look how indignant people get over a huge international clothing company apologizing for something.



Time for people to boycott.

!

[Trill Clinton]

So Trill et.al.

Is this offensive?
i said it could be. its up to the individual.

i don't know why you guys get so bent out of shape when people of color, women, LGBT, etc point out subtle racism/discrimination.

[SpursforSix]

i said it could be. its up to the individual.

i don't know why you guys get so bent out of shape when people of color, women, LGBT, etc point out subtle racism/discrimination.

it's so subtle that it's not even there

[spurraider21]

it's so subtle that it's not even there
:lol

[Trill Clinton]

it's so subtle that it's not even there

you're a racist white dude(no offense) so if a black person isn't hanging from a tree you won't find it racist.

[SpursforSix]

you're a racist white dude(no offense) so if a black person isn't hanging from a tree you won't find it racist.

I'm really not though. And nothing about that picture should suggest racism to anyone unless they are specifically looking for something to bitch about.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it was guilt laden white people that complained about it.

It's just a picture of a bunch of girls.

It's about as racist as JJ Watt tackling Devonta Freeman.

[spurraider21]

It's just a picture of a bunch of girls.
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/870/340/131.gif

[Trill Clinton]

I'm really not though. And nothing about that picture should suggest racism to anyone unless they are specifically looking for something to bitch about.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it was guilt laden white people that complained about it.

It's just a picture of a bunch of girls.

It's about as racist as JJ Watt tackling Devonta Freeman.

you're not of a race or group of people who have historically been victims of white supremacy so of course you would feel that way.

[SpursforSix]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/870/340/131.gif

haha. Avante ^

[clambake]

you're a racist white dude(no offense) so if a black person isn't hanging from a tree you won't find it racist.

how do ya get hung? aren't u guys raised in the trees?

[DarrinS]

nano-aggressions

[SpursforSix]

you're not of a race or group of people who have historically been victims of white supremacy so of course you would feel that way.

I'm part American Indian. So...yes I am.

In any event, I don't believe you perceive that pic to be racist. Subtly or otherwise.

[SpursforSix]

nano-aggressions

is that above or below micro aggressions? I guess it's lower right?
thank god I don't have nano penis.

[spurraider21]

is that above or below micro aggressions? I guess it's lower right?
thank god I don't have nano penis.
pretty sure nano is lower than micro. i know micro is lower than mini. i usually use this as a guide tbh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J2Au80BmHc

[DarrinS]

This is what happens when you're hypervigilant looking out for racism

http://thetab.com/us/indiana/2016/04/05/last-night-white-robed-priest-mistaken-armed-kkk-klansman-1804

[SpursforSix]

pretty sure nano is lower than micro. i know micro is lower than mini. i usually use this as a guide tbh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J2Au80BmHc

.:lol

[DPG21920]

i said it could be. its up to the individual.

i don't know why you guys get so bent out of shape when people of color, women, LGBT, etc point out subtle racism/discrimination.

I really don't understand this line of thinking - especially from educated people. Something is either racist or it's not. What is this logic of "it's up to the individual"? How is that a possible standard to live up to?

So now, if just one person feels it's racist or feels offended, it now by definition becomes racist or offensive? If you believe that the first picture was racist, then by default the exact same has to be true about the second picture. There is either racism or there is not and going off of what one person says/thinks is literally an impossible standard that means every single thing now is offensive/racist.

[SpursforSix]

I really don't understand this line of thinking - especially from educated people. Something is either racist or it's not. What is this logic of "it's up to the individual"? How is that a possible standard to live up to?

So now, if just one person feels it's racist or feels offended, it now by definition becomes racist or offensive? If you believe that the first picture was racist, then by default the exact same has to be true about the second picture. There is either racism or there is not and going off of what one person says/thinks is literally an impossible standard that means every single thing now is offensive/racist.

Trill will say that because it was the black people that were enslaved and oppressed, then they have the right to play the racism card. If you're white, you have no room.

[DPG21920]

Trill will say that because it was the black people that were enslaved and oppressed, then they have the right to play the racism card. If you're white, you have no room.

Well he did say that if a White person thought the second ad was racist, then he would accept that. That's what I don't get. He shouldn't need someone else's approval if he thought the first picture was racist. The precedent was set for what is racist and there was no difference in the photos.

[z0sa]

it's so subtle that it's not even there

:lmao

[TheSanityAnnex]

ad is offensive and i accept their apology. i hope their marketing department and the GAP staff takes racial sensitivity training.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTs1AaEpenUbbqnNctSBDEehoBQXLX0f vxzDrE5YRnT3uj16tLURQ

[TheSanityAnnex]

it's so subtle that it's not even there
9/10

[TheSanityAnnex]

^^typical white telling non whites what they should find offensive^^

As a black man, do you find this offensive?


Black Lives Matter co-founder tweets about killing "men and white folks"

Black lives matter … but the lives of “men and white folks” do not?
That apparently is the message Black Lives Matter Toronto co-founder Yusra Khogali was trying to convey when she posted a controversial tweet (https://twitter.com/YusraKhogali) on Feb. 9 that surfaced Tuesday morning.
In the tweet, Khogali asks Allah for strength “to not cuss/kill these men and white folks out here today.”
Black Lives Matters activist Sandy Hudson blamed the media for focusing on the tweet, instead of the larger issues at hand.
“This is extremely frustrating and emotional for me because we slept outside for two weeks to get somebody to care about death in our community and this is what you decided to focus on? It’s very, very, very irresponsible,” she said.
When repeatedly asked for a comment on the tweet, she refused.

Khogali is a community organizer, activist and spoken word poet who “who uses her art as a form of resistance to challenge various forms of Canadian state-sanctioned anti-blackness,” according to her Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/yusraspokenword/).
Newstalk1010 radio host and Toronto Sun columnist Jerry Agar unearthed the tweet Tuesday morning, after which the tweet was removed from Khogali’s feed.
On Feb. 10 it was announced that Black Lives Matter would lead next summer’s Pride parade.

http://www.citynews.ca/2016/04/05/black-lives-matter-co-founder-tweets-about-killing-men-and-white-folks/

[InRareForm]

Didn't even notice it until they mentioned it.

[SpursforSix]

Didn't even notice it until they mentioned it.

At first, I thought it was going to be because they dressed her in a different color than the white girls.

[z0sa]

I'm part American Indian. So...yes I am.

Same here. Are you an actual member of a tribe or just basing it on family tradition?

[Trill Clinton]

I'm part American Indian. So...yes I am.

In any event, I don't believe you perceive that pic to be racist. Subtly or otherwise.

i don't believe you're part american indian.

[SpursforSix]

Same here. Are you an actual member of a tribe or just basing it on family tradition?

My grandfather was 1/2 Cherokee from his mom's side. They settled in Pulaski County Arkansas at some point. No...I'm not aware that from his birth there was any tradition carried forward.

[SpursforSix]

i don't believe you're part american indian.

yeah...quite outlandish...

[DPG21920]

https://www.yahoo.com/style/mother-black-girl-controversial-gap-231700831.html


The tweet grabbed immediate attention. White girls, it seemed to say, could apparently do anything — they could even use black girls as armrests. But as BET reported, actress Brooke Smith, the girl's mother, just chimed in with some crucial information the internet missed.

"They are sisters!" she said in one tweet.

Doesn't change anything but goes to show you intent and true feelings. Race is becoming less and less of an issue. The kids don't really know or see things this way like older people used to.

[z0sa]

:lol :lol :lol

[boutons_deux]

"Race is becoming less and less of an issue."

:lol

Race is fundamental to so much shit and perversion of American life, priorities.

[DMX7]

NVM delete

[DPG21920]

"Race is becoming less and less of an issue."

:lol

Race is fundamental to so much shit and perversion of American life, priorities.




To some degree, yes. But to ignore tangible progress is laughable. I see so many opportunities today that didn't exist for people of color 20 years ago. I go to college campuses and see black, white, everyone around. I see inclusion in the work place.

I see black CEO's, famous athletes, movie stars and I see basically full integration of black culture into mainstream America. I see a black president elected by "racist" Americans and I see more and more kids who are more tone def to color as the old idiots are dying off.

[boutons_deux]

But to ignore tangible progress is laughable

convince 10Ms of blacks who can't get jobs, who get jobs with lower pay than whites, who are stuck with underfinanced public schools, who are kicked off public assistance, etc, etc.

Fuck it, even white women can't get pay equal to white men.

[DPG21920]

I'm not denying that there is still work to do, but to ignore all the progress and basically act like it's not better than slavery days is a joke to me and is a huge issue.

I think more and more the issue is less about race and about socioeconomic status (poor). You really see a high correlation with most issues on poverty vs black/white. Poor whites are having many of the same issues as poor minorities.

But yes, while women/minorities are still battling some wage differences and things of that nature, the fact is there are so many more opportunities now than ever before which is fantastic.

[rmt]

We live in the best time to be able to pull yourself out of poverty. If you can read and have access to the internet, you can teach yourself just about anything. And if you can't read, go to your local library and ask about their literacy program. I volunteer at the library and true it's not as easy for adults to learn as it is for kids - it just takes longer.

People need to stop making excuses. Do I bitch and moan that my teeth are bad because I never went to a dentist before I started working (my mother believed that if it didn't hurt, you don't need to go to the dentist so I didn't even know what flossing was). Just open your eyes, seek out and take advantage of the opportunities around you.

[Blake]

We live in the best time to be able to pull yourself out of poverty. If you can read and have access to the internet, you can teach yourself just about anything. And if you can't read, go to your local library and ask about their literacy program. I volunteer at the library and true it's not as easy for adults to learn as it is for kids - it just takes longer.

People need to stop making excuses. Do I bitch and moan that my teeth are bad because I never went to a dentist before I started working (my mother believed that if it didn't hurt, you don't need to go to the dentist so I didn't even know what flossing was). Just open your eyes, seek out and take advantage of the opportunities around you.

So if you were poor with Internet access, what exactly would you do to pull yourself out of poverty

[TheSanityAnnex]

So if you were poor with Internet access, what exactly would you do to pull yourself out of poverty

Live nude cams

[Blake]

Live nude cams

Lol in the library

But if you're desperate for cash, might as well.

[mingus]

Live nude cams

Or prostitute herself, sell drugs, etc.

Those are the only options she has!

In all seriousness tho, poverty is too broad, or to narrow depending on how you take it, a word to use as a a basis for why people get "stuck in poverty" or can't "move up the ladder". Not being specific enough or honest about the reasons why that happens causes people to think they can throw money at the problem of poverty and help solve it. I'm not suggesting money isn't a reason, because it is, but it's just one of them. Very, very few places in this country truly lack the resources that render a community defensless against the ills of poverty. I'm talking places that have no running water, no sewage systems, no policing, hospitals, schools, libraries, Internet access, and virtually no political representation. Like third world poverty. My mom used to take me to these places during the holidays to give out food and gifts. And she'd told me, THEY have an excuse, YOU don't.

That brings me to another point: I'm grateful as fuck my mom never bought into the liberal mindset that I, a kid who grew up poor, had an excuse. A consequence of that is that I used the resources I had around me to my benefit. I got a job a job at 16 and built up my resume, used the public library to use the Internet, looked into community college, and started taking classes online in high school. Got out of high school and got a relatively good paying job because I'd networked with people. Went to college while working 60 hrs a week, and earned a degree when I was 24 (a little later than I'd have liked, but I could've finished earlier had I taken summer courses and taken more classes per semester). Some of my buddies I grew up climbed the ladder using different methods. But the biggest thing is we, and each of our parent(s), never bought into the agenda that "standard" poverty is a valid excuse. Had we, we'd probably either be dead or in prison. I thank God every day my mother wasn't a liberal cuz I'd be crying out of self-pity in a corner somewhere like a fuckin' clown.

The single biggest thing this country can do to help standard poverty is to turn people living in poverty into conservatives.

[rmt]

Live nude cams

I guess there's that opportunity where some college girls are getting sugar daddies to see them through college - not that I'm advocating that :-) But in answer to the above question, mostly through EDUCATION - shoring up whatever deficiencies in I'm guessing whatever bad school I'm in, seeking out scholarships (not necessarily academic)/financial aid or rock the PSAT which will open up a lot of scholarships. On the side, maybe learning a skill, tutoring, doing one of those youtube things that people follow, mining bit coins (before it became popular), save up and day trade, sell stuff for others on the internet, whatever opportunity you can find around you.

My brother's girlfriend is trying one of those travel video across Europe, hubby was telling me about hydraulic-crushing videos, life of a middle schooler, who know what crazy stuff people watch. I'm not saying that it's easy to pull oneself out of poverty, but with the internet, it's the best time ever to do so.

[rmt]

Or prostitute herself, sell drugs, etc.

Those are the only options she has!

In all seriousness tho, poverty is too broad, or to narrow depending on how you take it, a word to use as a a basis for why people get "stuck in poverty" or can't "move up the ladder". Not being specific enough or honest about the reasons why that happens causes people to think they can throw money at the problem of poverty and help solve it. I'm not suggesting money isn't a reason, because it is, but it's just one of them. Very, very few places in this country truly lack the resources that render a community defensless against the ills of poverty. I'm talking places that have no running water, no sewage systems, no policing, hospitals, schools, libraries, Internet access, and virtually no political representation. Like third world poverty. My mom used to take me to these places during the holidays to give out food and gifts. And she'd told me, THEY have an excuse, YOU don't.

That brings me to another point: I'm grateful as fuck my mom never bought into the liberal mindset that I, a kid who grew up poor, had an excuse. A consequence of that is that I used the resources I had around me to my benefit. I got a job a job at 16 and built up my resume, used the public library to use the Internet, looked into community college, and started taking classes online in high school. Got out of high school and got a relatively good paying job because I'd networked with people. Went to college while working 60 hrs a week, and earned a degree when I was 24 (a little later than I'd have liked, but I could've finished earlier had I taken summer courses and taken more classes per semester). Some of my buddies I grew up climbed the ladder using different methods. But the biggest thing is we, and each of our parent(s), never bought into the agenda that "standard" poverty is a valid excuse. Had we, we'd probably either be dead or in prison. I thank God every day my mother wasn't a liberal cuz I'd be crying out of self-pity in a corner somewhere like a fuckin' clown.

The single biggest thing this country can do to help standard poverty is to turn people living in poverty into conservatives.

I agree with everything except the first 2 lines. What really helps is someone like your mom and say Ben Carson's mom who would take no excuses. The opportunities are there - you just have to make the most of them and WORK HARD.

[Blake]

The single biggest thing this country can do to help standard poverty is to turn people living in poverty into conservatives.

:lol

[rmt]

I'd like to add that you can join airbnb and rent out space (either a bedroom or a bed in a corner) especially if you live in a desirable area or near some big function (say a musical festival). My brother is doing this and it's quite lucrative. I'm considering converting my garage (with separate entrance) to do the same since I'm not comfortable with anyone in my living space. Or there's UBER if you have a car.

[baseline bum]

The single biggest thing this country can do to help standard poverty is to turn people living in poverty into conservatives.

Most conservative state in the nation? (source = Gallup http://www.gallup.com/poll/181505/mississippi-alabama-louisiana-conservative-states.aspx )
http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/pwhfzdimbkgryfratuqqma.png

Poorest state in the nation?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=poorest+state+in+the+nation
http://i.imgur.com/62YjPGv.png

[Blake]

I guess there's that opportunity where some college girls are getting sugar daddies to see them through college - not that I'm advocating that :-) But in answer to the above question, mostly through EDUCATION - shoring up whatever deficiencies in I'm guessing whatever bad school I'm in, seeking out scholarships (not necessarily academic)/financial aid or rock the PSAT which will open up a lot of scholarships. On the side, maybe learning a skill, tutoring, doing one of those youtube things that people follow, mining bit coins (before it became popular), save up and day trade, sell stuff for others on the internet, whatever opportunity you can find around you.

My brother's girlfriend is trying one of those travel video across Europe, hubby was telling me about hydraulic-crushing videos, life of a middle schooler, who know what crazy stuff people watch. I'm not saying that it's easy to pull oneself out of poverty, but with the internet, it's the best time ever to do so.

Cost of higher education is a huge issue. Then there's getting a job after you get the education.

You have nothing specific in mind because you're clearly not in poverty.

Let me know when you've been there and dug yourself out. Then I'll listen to you talk about all the opportunities out there available to the poor.

[rmt]

:lol

It is the ATTITUDE that you are responsible for pulling yourself up - not the government.

[rmt]

Cost of higher education is a huge issue. Then there's getting a job after you get the education.

You have nothing specific in mind because you're clearly not in poverty.

Let me know when you've been there and dug yourself out. Then I'll listen to you talk about all the opportunities out there available to the poor.

You have Mingus' example of working/community college. Ben Carson lived in poverty in Detroit (I'm not saying everyone can become a pediatric neurosurgeon) and worked himself out of it.

[baseline bum]

Boy look how much conservatism helps out Mississippi.

[rmt]

Cost of higher education is a huge issue. Then there's getting a job after you get the education.

You have nothing specific in mind because you're clearly not in poverty.

Let me know when you've been there and dug yourself out. Then I'll listen to you talk about all the opportunities out there available to the poor.

My parents didn't have the benefit of education, but they worked hard. I worked hard in high school, got a scholarship and went to college. I started out with nothing and worked hard for 12 years before children. While I'm not in poverty, I'm always looking for ways to earn extra money so that I can stay at home with my kids. Should people just whine and complain about their lot in life or try to do something to improve that lot? Some things work, some don't - that's the risk you take.

[Th'Pusher]

Boy look how much conservatism helps out Mississippi.
working wonders in Kansas as well.

[baseline bum]

working wonders in Kansas as well.

We have been doing it Reagan's way for 35 years now and the country is a mess. But we need more conservatism.

[TeyshaBlue]

You have to be looking to be offended in order to actually be offended by that picture.

Co-signed

[mingus]

Most conservative state in the nation? (source = Gallup http://www.gallup.com/poll/181505/mississippi-alabama-louisiana-conservative-states.aspx )
http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/pwhfzdimbkgryfratuqqma.png

Poorest state in the nation?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=poorest+state+in+the+nation
http://i.imgur.com/62YjPGv.png

You're response works in light of me not explain myself a bit better: I mean conservative in a theoretical, non-racially driven sense. You know, more
than either just a label taken by many White Southerners solely to segregate themselves from Blacks, or the result of the social-racial-economic wasteland
caused by slavery, share-cropping & Jim Crow. Labels get misappropriated and distorted to the point where their actual meaning gets completely lost
in a high pile shit. The same can be said for socialism.

The statement without further explanation sounds retarded, but I just figured that by inference you would make sense of it as easily as I'd make sense of Venezuela, North Korea, or Cuba not being exemplary of socialism.

[baseline bum]

You're response works in light of me not explain myself a bit better: I mean conservative in a theoretical, non-racially driven sense. You know, more
than either just a label taken by many White Southerners solely to segregate themselves from Blacks, or the result of the social-racial-economic wasteland
caused by slavery, share-cropping & Jim Crow. Labels get misappropriated and distorted to the point where their actual meaning gets completely lost
in a high pile shit. The same can be said for socialism.

The statement without further explanation sounds retarded, but I just figured that by inference you would make sense of it as easily as I'd make sense of Venezuela, North Korea, or Cuba not being exemplary of socialism.

So the no true Scotsman?

[Spurminator]

Remember how every conservative media outlet, politician, and Internet message board participant have always said Kansas and Mississippi aren't the models for conservative governing?

[mingus]

So the no true Scotsman?

Huh? No, I conceded that there can be a racially driven component of conservatism (depending on the context). And, liberalism, in certain contexts, exists along side & in support of racism and discrimination, too. Both words are relative & dependent on context for meaning.

You going and picking out states that are a particular type of conservative & and citing them in support of your argument is, fart whiffing. They are conservatives whose principle values & outlook I don't give much validity to.

[baseline bum]

Huh? No, I conceded that there can be a racially driven component of conservatism (depending on the context). And, liberalism, in certain contexts, exists along side & in support of racism and discrimination, too. Both words are relative & dependent on context for meaning.

You going and picking out states that are a particular type of conservative & and citing them in support of your argument is, fart whiffing. They are conservatives whose principle values & outlook I don't give much validity to.

Stories about ######s buying Cadillacs with welfare checks is one of the bedrocks of modern conservatism. I liked your point that only conservatives work hard.

[baseline bum]

And liberals just bitch.

[mingus]

Stories about ######s buying Cadillacs with welfare checks is one of the bedrocks of modern conservatism. I liked your point that only conservatives work hard.

What's so hard to understand that I don't agree with them? That that's not the brand of conservatism I'm talking about?

[mingus]

And liberals just bitch.

Well the OP is.

[CosmicCowboy]

Turns out the black girl and the white girl with her elbow on her head are sisters...:lmao

[baseline bum]

What's so hard to understand that I don't agree with them? That that's not the brand of conservatism I'm talking about?

Oh bullshit, Reagan's welfare queens driving Cadillacs story is the justification for cutting the safety net.

[mingus]

Oh bullshit, Reagan's welfare queens driving Cadillacs story is the justification for cutting the safety net.

You're attributing things that aren't conservative, or that are conservative circumstantially, to conservatism, the theory, under which their are different types of conservatism. It'd be like me calling out liberalism for Clinton's growing of prison industrial complex. I'm a liberal-conservative mix. Liberal on some things, and conservative on others. But definitely more conservative, yet still liberal on some of the things conservativism, in really any of its mainstream forms right now in the country, has utterly failed to address.

I actually agree with most of what you've said here. I never suggested conservatism was the cure all to any and every every of the country's problems. In so far as climbing one's way out of poverty tho, I think it's a better outlook to have.

[DMX7]

Well the OP is.

I don't think the ad is racist for the record.