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SpursforSix
04-07-2016, 03:36 PM
talking to Black Lives Matter protestors

"you are defending the people who killed the lives you say matter. Tell the truth."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/bill-clinton-black-lives-matter-protesters-are-defending-murders-and-drug-dealers/article/2001877

DMX7
04-07-2016, 03:44 PM
Bill is really starting to lose his MOJO... sad.

IceColdBrewski
04-07-2016, 04:47 PM
Kudos to Bubba for tellin' it like it is.

spurraider21
04-07-2016, 05:12 PM
i wonder how chump will spin this one for the krazy klintons

TheSanityAnnex
04-07-2016, 05:19 PM
Retired that account.

hater
04-07-2016, 06:40 PM
Probably trying to get a BJ from a cop tbh

Nbadan
04-07-2016, 06:43 PM
Chumpy is in the Philippines....no word on what he's up too.....stay tuned....

DarrinS
04-07-2016, 08:27 PM
Chumpy is in the Philippines....no word on what he's up too.....stay tuned....

Why do you know this? Ick

boutons_deux
04-07-2016, 08:41 PM
WTF was Slick Willie saying? translation please.

Piss off the blacks, Bill. Bernie sends his best wishes.

IceColdBrewski
04-07-2016, 08:58 PM
WTF was Slick Willie saying? translation please.

Piss off the blacks, Bill. Bernie sends his best wishes.

Simple translation? "You Black Lies Matter people are full of shit."

Nbadan
04-07-2016, 10:57 PM
Pretty sad when ever President in the last 30 years is a political liability on the campaign trail.....

boutons_deux
04-07-2016, 10:59 PM
Simple translation? "You Black Lies Matter people are full of shit."

figured, you can understand English any better than you think in any language

IceColdBrewski
04-08-2016, 12:03 AM
figured, you can understand English any better than you think in any language

lol. There were at least 5 comments in there in which he basically either called them liars ( "Tell the truth!" ), or said that they don't want to hear the truth. Translation: "You people are full of shit." Not sure how many times you need to hear something to get it through your thick skull before you finally get it, but there was definitely more than enough there for me to figure it out.

boutons_deux
04-08-2016, 12:12 AM
"you are defending the people who killed the lives you say matter."

really? WTF is that shit?

and ICB's knitter-hatin free-style interpretation is bullshit.

Reck
04-08-2016, 12:31 AM
Pretty sad when ever President in the last 30 years is a political liability on the campaign trail.....

After watching the whole clip and context, it really wasn't a bad remark. It was truth.

The blacks have this massive victim's complex. An over sensitive bunch for a group that likes to act tough. Fuck them

DarrinS
04-08-2016, 07:45 AM
BLM really winning people over :lol

boutons_deux
04-08-2016, 02:11 PM
I watched footage of Bill Clinton single-handedly trying to torpedo his wife’s presidential campaig (http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/07/politics/bill-clinton-black-lives-matter-protesters/index.html?sr=twCNN040716bill-clinton-black-lives-matter-protesters0848PMVODtopPhoto&linkId=23215710)n by…

1. Defending his infamous crime bill; which is generally regarded today as one of the main culprits behind the disproportionate imprisonment of Black Americans

2. Doubling-down on the use of the term “Super Predators”

3. Continuing his ad hominem attacks on BlackLivesMatter by saying completely out of context and patently ridiculous things like “I’ll tell you another story about a place where black lives matter: Africa.” and “You are defending the people who killed the lives you say matter. Tell the truth.”

That Bill Clinton has received honorary Black status in certain parts of Black America is undoubtedly true. That he is abjectly undeserving of this status (http://newjimcrow.com/) is also true. This, I’m sure, creates a bit of a paradox for Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Because part of Clinton’s popularity is due to the Clinton name recognition. But I’m sure there are people in the Clinton campaign — including perhaps Hillary herself — who prefer he stops talking for a while and sits this one out.

Will this have an effect on Clinton’s numbers and standing with Black people? Who knows? All I know is that the same thought is likely going through the Clinton campaign people’s heads right now: Where’s a distractingly cute intern when you need one?

http://verysmartbrothas.com/bill-clinton-says-dumb-shit-about-blacklivesmatter-bill-clinton-can-eat-a-dick/

Trill Clinton
04-08-2016, 02:40 PM
After watching the whole clip and context, it really wasn't a bad remark. It was truth.

The blacks have this massive victim's complex. An over sensitive bunch for a group that likes to act tough. Fuck them

Fuck you too, pussy.

boutons_deux
04-08-2016, 02:44 PM
"The blacks have this massive victim's complex"

:lol

finally a rightwingnut admits that blacks are arrested, incarcerated by the 100Ks (lives destroyed by arrests, incarceration records) under the LIE of the War on Drugs (Thanks, Repugs) and murdered by the 100s by the racist, blood-thirsty, trigger-happy, brutal police state.

Welcome aboard, Reck

spurraider21
04-08-2016, 02:49 PM
"The blacks have this massive victim's complex"

:lol

finally a rightwingnut admits that blacks are arrested, incarcerated by the 100Ks (lives destroyed by arrests, incarceration records) under the LIE of the War on Drugs (Thanks, Repugs) and murdered by the 100s by the racist, blood-thirsty, trigger-happy, brutal police state.

Welcome aboard, Reck



this is about as dumb as referring to all muslims as suicide bombing radical islamist terrorists

boutons_deux
04-08-2016, 02:54 PM
Twitter Just Unleashed on Bill Clinton

http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/bill-clinton-vs-twitter/

boutons_deux
04-08-2016, 02:56 PM
this is about as dumb as referring to all muslims as suicide bombing radical islamist terrorists

get back to us when the "good" cops turn in the racist, sadistic, murderous bad cops.

Good cops don't turn them in? Then they are accomplices, enablers to the racism, sadism, murder.

spurraider21
04-08-2016, 02:59 PM
get back to us when the "good" cops turn in the racist, sadistic, murderous bad cops.

Good cops don't turn them in? Then they are accomplices, enablers to the racism, sadism, murder.
who is "us"

boutons_deux
04-08-2016, 03:01 PM
who is "us"

fill in the blank, but please do get back to <blank> with your report

Reck
04-08-2016, 03:54 PM
Fuck you too, pussy.

Lol aight.

TheSanityAnnex
04-08-2016, 05:03 PM
An over sensitive bunch for a group that likes to act tough


Fuck you too, pussy.

Case in point

spurraider21
04-08-2016, 05:48 PM
^:lmao

boutons_deux
04-09-2016, 04:28 AM
Michelle Alexander Just Responded to Bill Clinton

Ohio State University law professor Michelle Alexander, author of The New Jim Crow, took the former president to task in a scathing Facebook post on Friday, starting off by thanking Clinton for revealing his true colors.

“Thank you, Bill, for giving the nation a ten-minute tutorial on everything that was wrong (and apparently remains wrong) with the ‘New Democrats’ and their approach to racial politics,” Alexander wrote.

She then went on to talk about how Clinton’s strategy to win the White House was based on a racist appeal to white independent voters by convincing them that he could take even more of a hardline approach to crime than his Republican predecessors — something Clinton and his surrogates in the media argue was supported by the black community.

It is a gross distortion to suggest that black people wanted billions of dollars slashed from child welfare, housing and other public benefits in order to fund an unprecedented prison building boom.

It was Bill Clinton’s deliberate political strategy — one he championed along with the “New Democrats” — to appeal to white swing voters by being tougher on struggling black communities than the Republicans had been, ramping up the drug war and gutting welfare.


She continued to excoriate Bill Clinton for driving a wedge between the protesters and Clinton supporter U.S. Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) by saying, “You can listen to [the protesters], or you can listen to Congressman John Lewis, the last remaining hero of the civil rights movement.”

Alexander pointed out that Rep. Lewis himself was a fierce opponent of Clinton’s endeavor to “reform welfare as we know it.”

That strategy of “getting tough” while at the same time eviscerating the federal social safety net was NOT supported by many of the black politicians he seeks to use as cover.

Rep. John Lewis (who Clinton referred to yesterday as the “last remaining hero of the civil rights movement”) fiercely opposed welfare reform, accurately predicting that it would thrust more than a million more kids into severe poverty.

John Lewis said back then: “How can any person of faith, of conscience, vote for a bill that puts a million more kids into poverty? What does it profit a great nation to conquer the world, only to lose its soul?”


Alexander and Lewis are right. As the Huffington Post recently reported, up to 1 million people (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-welfare-reform_us_5707e023e4b0447a7dbc2a9b) will soon lose their access to food stamps as a result of Clinton’s 1996 welfare cuts. The law includes provisions that cut food stamps after a certain period of time for unemployed welfare recipients with no dependents.

At the bill’s signing ceremony, Clinton himself even admitted (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-welfare-reform_us_5707e023e4b0447a7dbc2a9b) the bill “fails to provide Food Stamp support to childless adults who want to work, but cannot find a job or are not given the opportunity to participate in a work program.”

“These totally unnecessary cuts would increase demand on the nation’s charitable food system at a time when food banks and other hunger-relief groups are stretched to meet sustained high need,” Feeding America CEO Diana Aviv said in a public statement (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/feeding-america-food-banks-brace-for-increased-need-for-food-assistance-as-up-to-one-million-americans-lose-access-to-food-stamps-300248560.html#continue-jump).

At the end of her post, Michelle Alexander congratulated the protesters for “fighting for the soul of the Democratic party and American democracy itself.”

http://usuncut.com/politics/michelle-alexander-clinton-blm-rant/

Bernie's campaign people need to get Smart Sista Michelle Alexander's FB post out to the black community, showing Bill was no friend to blacks, was not the First Black President, and Hillary was right there with him as he "got tough" on knitters into jail, and signed massive destruction of the safety net, esp bad for single black mothers.

Note that 40% of people on public assistance are white, and probably avid fans of Trump, who promises to keep the low-wage, low-info white male losers above, just a little, the blacks and browns so they can look down on them.

Bernie's $15/hour FEDERAL minimum would help blacks a more than Hillary's "incrementalism" $12, which she, nor Bernie, will "get done" because Dems stuff is not doable because the Repug racist block everything not for the 1%/BigCorp.

boutons_deux
04-09-2016, 04:32 AM
"Clinton continues to do well among minority groups, with 72 percent support among African-Americans compared to the 28 percent who support the Vermont senator."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/275634-poll-sanders-closes-gap-in-ny

Blacks supporting Hillary against their own best interests, just like rural whites "clinging bitterly to their guns and Bibles" supporting Repugs.

boutons_deux
04-09-2016, 06:21 AM
Bill Clinton Fundamentally Doesn't Understand What Black Lives Matter Is About

When did he suddenly cease to be a gifted politician?​

Here's a question for the poli-sci folks here in the shebeen: When did Bill Clinton become such a fcking political maladroit?

His godawful answers to the folks (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.reuters.com_article_us-2Dusa-2Delection-2DidUSKCN0X412G&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=C0G6Ae5N6o-49Sr-4B0ssYoInBjTRIEXRRb2OslIKxo&m=VCwlBAiQdZ4NoCKzLK446e7lY0As37ndYspIZsYHpf0&s=oolfbEPLLlqWWOdUtQYharxPKB_qMCSnLZrBZlHwhwU&e=) from the Black Lives Matter movement who showed up to heckle him—and whose points, however raucously made, were damn good ones—turned an uncomfortable moment into (at least) a two-day story.

It also opened wide the question of how much damage he had to do in order to hold off the worst impulses of his political opposition in the 1990s. Or, more simply, how sharp were the edges of that triangle, and who got cut the deepest?

There always have been tales from the inside about his quick trigger, which certainly was on display Thursday when the BLM folks came to call.

"I don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped on crack and sent them out on the street to murder other African-American children," he said, shaking his finger at a heckler as Clinton supporters cheered, according to video of the event.

"Maybe you thought they were good citizens. She [Hillary Clinton] didn't…You are defending the people who kill the lives you say matter," he told a protester. "Tell the truth."


First of all, "hopped up on crack"? Who are you? Jack Webb? (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dn2VWddUhGd8&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=C0G6Ae5N6o-49Sr-4B0ssYoInBjTRIEXRRb2OslIKxo&m=VCwlBAiQdZ4NoCKzLK446e7lY0As37ndYspIZsYHpf0&s=UrXsYB2mV0KFAKsScjcgsRp29FPKrThovWvJxVlu8ag&e=)

Second, many of the people in BLM weren't even born when Clinton signed the 1994 crime bill—an act, we should note, for which he has already apologized — but they grew up watching their brothers and uncles and parents get hauled off for preposterously long sentences.

The movement arose because of the unwarranted killing of black people by law enforcement, and by crackpot vigilantes like George Zimmerman, not because the BLM members felt tender toward drug kingpins.

And, not for nothing, but even drug kingpins deserve fair trials and equitable sentences under the law.

(Also, Clinton is going to have to fight for space on this particular fainting couch with the newly resurrected Andrew Sullivan, who went on Chris Matthews show Wednesday night and decided that Ta-Nehisi Coates was a Marxist, or some such crapola (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__driftglass.blogspot.com_2016_04_the-2Dtriumphant-2Dreturn-2Dof-2Dstupid-2Dshit.html&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=C0G6Ae5N6o-49Sr-4B0ssYoInBjTRIEXRRb2OslIKxo&m=VCwlBAiQdZ4NoCKzLK446e7lY0As37ndYspIZsYHpf0&s=Zwu8Ns6cQ0fqxFZnjdg3AfQ4vp6zwVejXcFGw0K5DFw&e=). Welcome back, Andrew.)

There's no question that the 1994 law exploded the country's prison population. (That a great deal of that explosion occurred at the state level is beside the point. A Democratic president helped point the way—again, as Clinton already has acknowledged.)

There's no question that it helped establish the ludicrous disparity in sentences for crack cocaine as opposed to the powdered variety, a disparity that fell most heavily on African-American defendants.

A lot of the law enforcement abuses — militarized policing, no-knock warrants, asset forfeiture — that so many people deplore today had their roots in the 1984 Omnibus Crime Bill signed by Ronald Reagan.

Those trends accelerated behind Clinton's bill a decade later. And if you believe, as I do, that the "war" on drugs was the template for the subsequent abuses of the "war" on terror, then Bill Clinton has a few things for which he should be called to account, and yelling "Soft on murder!" from a public platform is no way to do that.

Bill Clinton remains one of the most gifted politicians of my lifetime. And it is true that he did a great job holding back the worst excesses of Gingrichism during his term of office—including that exercise in Gingrichism that sought to deprive him of said office.

But this is the second election in a row in which he is turning out to be one of his wife's clumsiest surrogates.

I would make the modest suggestion to him that This Is Not About You. If you want to defend your record, write another massively unreadable book. If you want someone to defend your record ably, ask your wife. She seems to know how to do it best.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a43754/bill-clinton-black-lives-matter/